Currently, I generate my pages using commands in MAKE. One key 
command is NSGMLS, a Windows command-line tool that validates any 
HTML with a DTD, and returns a "pass" or "fail" status (in the 
ERRORLEVEL) so that the MAKE can proceed or stop.

But of course HTML 5 doesn't have a DTD, so I need a new tool for 
validating locally in Windows. If at all possible it should have a 
command-line interface that returns a "pass" or "fail" status. I 
don't need a HTML editor.

Can anyone recommend good HTML 5 validation software that I can run 
in Windows, preferably on the command line as outlined above? 
Googling turns up some possibilities, but I'd just as soon not take 
the time to try all of them if someone on this group has a 
recommendation. Thanks!

-- 
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
                                       http://BrownMath.com/
                                  http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator:      http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec:   http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator:      http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You: http://preview.tinyurl.com/WhyWont

On 10/22/2016 4:54 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
> Currently, I generate my pages using commands in MAKE. One key 
> command is NSGMLS, a Windows command-line tool that validates any 
> HTML with a DTD, and returns a "pass" or "fail" status (in the 
> ERRORLEVEL) so that the MAKE can proceed or stop.
> 
> But of course HTML 5 doesn't have a DTD, so I need a new tool for 
> validating locally in Windows. If at all possible it should have a 
> command-line interface that returns a "pass" or "fail" status. I 
> don't need a HTML editor.
> 
> Can anyone recommend good HTML 5 validation software that I can run 
> in Windows, preferably on the command line as outlined above? 
> Googling turns up some possibilities, but I'd just as soon not take 
> the time to try all of them if someone on this group has a 
> recommendation. Thanks!
> 

I use <http://validator.w3.org/> for the HTML and
<http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/> for the CSS.  Both were created by
the World-Wide Web Consortium (W3C), which is also the organization that
establishes the specifications for HTML and CSS.

-- 
David E. Ross

Donald Trump claims everyone likes him.  Does that
include his ex-wives?  How about the students who
discovered that their education at Trump University
was worthless?  And how about the contractors,
suppliers, and employees he stiffed in his several
bankruptcies?

On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 17:32:04 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:
> 
> On 10/22/2016 4:54 PM, Stan Brown wrote:

> > But of course HTML 5 doesn't have a DTD, so I need a new tool for 
> > validating locally in Windows. 
> 
> I use <http://validator.w3.org/> for the HTML and
> <http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/> for the CSS.  Both were created by
> the World-Wide Web Consortium (W3C), which is also the organization that
> establishes the specifications for HTML and CSS.

Thank you for posting, but I am looking for something to run 
_locally_. Nothing wrong with the web-based services, which I've 
used, but they don't fit into doing local command-line builds.  

Unless I'm missing something, of course. If I am, please enlighten 
me.

-- 
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
                                       http://BrownMath.com/
                                  http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator:      http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec:   http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator:      http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You: http://preview.tinyurl.com/WhyWont

On 10/23/2016 at 10:40 AM, Stan Brown's prodigious digits fired off:
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 17:32:04 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:
>>
>> On 10/22/2016 4:54 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
>
>>> But of course HTML 5 doesn't have a DTD, so I need a new tool for
>>> validating locally in Windows.
>>
>> I use <http://validator.w3.org/> for the HTML and
>> <http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/> for the CSS.  Both were created by
>> the World-Wide Web Consortium (W3C), which is also the organization that
>> establishes the specifications for HTML and CSS.
>
> Thank you for posting, but I am looking for something to run
> _locally_. Nothing wrong with the web-based services, which I've
> used, but they don't fit into doing local command-line builds.
>
> Unless I'm missing something, of course. If I am, please enlighten
> me.
>

Stan, I haven't used any of these but there is some free sw:

<http://www.google.com/search?q=html%20validation%20software>

I have used CSE HTML Validator:

<https://www.htmlvalidator.com/buy/>

The author sent me a free copy after finding an answer to a Mozilla 
question on my site. Great program and not too costly at $69.00 for the 
Standard version.


-- 
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Transvestite: A guy who likes to eat, drink and be Mary.

23.10.2016, 2:54, Stan Brown wrote:

> Can anyone recommend good HTML 5 validation software that I can run
> in Windows, preferably on the command line as outlined above?

The W3C Markup Validator uses the Nu Html Checker when it is asked to 
�validate� an HTML5 document, and that checker is available for download 
and can be used as a command-line tool, using Java, see
https://validator.w3.org/nu/about.html
under �How to to run your own copy of the Nu Html Checker�.

HTML5 is a moving target, and the Nu Html Checker is targeted to play by 
some rules that are not entirely well-documented � I haven�t checked 
whether they refer to W3C HTML5, or to WHATWG Living HTML, and which 
version (probably �the newest�, which might be Editor�s Draft). But the 
page mentioned starts with a useful caveat:

�The Nu Html Checker (v.Nu) is an ongoing experiment in better HTML 
checking, and its behavior remains subject to change. In particular, 
because new types of error checks continue to be actively added to the 
checker, there is no guarantee provided that if the checker reports zero 
errors for a particular document at one point in time, it will report 
zero errors for that same document at some later point in time.�

-- 
Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 20:31:23 +0300, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> 
> 23.10.2016, 2:54, Stan Brown wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone recommend good HTML 5 validation software that I can run
> > in Windows, preferably on the command line as outlined above?
> 
> The W3C Markup Validator uses the Nu Html Checker when it is asked to 
> ?validate? an HTML5 document, and that checker is available for download 
> and can be used as a command-line tool, using Java, see
> https://validator.w3.org/nu/about.html
> under ?How to to run your own copy of the Nu Html Checker?.

Thanks. That's one of the ones I saw, but it rather put me off 
because it says I need Java 8. Howtogeek.com has warned several times 
about horrible security problems in Java[1], saying that it's even 
worse than Javascript[2]. They do advise disabling the browser plugin 
if you must run an application that requires Java.

The page says I need Java 8, but Googling revealed several things 
called "Java". I'm guessing that they mean Java SEE Runtime; do you 
know if that's correct.  (The Java I've got in Windows 7 is 1.6.)


[1] http://www.howtogeek.com/122934/java-is-insecure-and-awful-its-
time-to-disable-it-and-heres-how/
[2] http://www.howtogeek.com/198960/javascript-isnt-java-its-much-
safer-and-much-more-useful/

-- 
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
                                       http://BrownMath.com/
                                  http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator:      http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec:   http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator:      http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You: http://preview.tinyurl.com/WhyWont

On 10/23/2016 at 2:14 PM, Stan Brown's prodigious digits fired off:
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 20:31:23 +0300, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
>>
>> 23.10.2016, 2:54, Stan Brown wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone recommend good HTML 5 validation software that I can run
>>> in Windows, preferably on the command line as outlined above?
>>
>> The W3C Markup Validator uses the Nu Html Checker when it is asked to
>> ?validate? an HTML5 document, and that checker is available for download
>> and can be used as a command-line tool, using Java, see
>> https://validator.w3.org/nu/about.html
>> under ?How to to run your own copy of the Nu Html Checker?.
>
> Thanks. That's one of the ones I saw, but it rather put me off
> because it says I need Java 8. Howtogeek.com has warned several times
> about horrible security problems in Java[1], saying that it's even
> worse than Javascript[2]. They do advise disabling the browser plugin
> if you must run an application that requires Java.
>
> The page says I need Java 8, but Googling revealed several things
> called "Java". I'm guessing that they mean Java SEE Runtime; do you
> know if that's correct.  (The Java I've got in Windows 7 is 1.6.)
>
>
> [1] http://www.howtogeek.com/122934/java-is-insecure-and-awful-its-
> time-to-disable-it-and-heres-how/
> [2] http://www.howtogeek.com/198960/javascript-isnt-java-its-much-
> safer-and-much-more-useful/
>

jre-8u111-windows-i586.exe

<http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html>



-- 
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
"Sex at 90 is like trying to shoot pool with a rope." - George Burns

On 23/10/2016 02:54, Stan Brown wrote:
> Can anyone recommend good HTML 5 validation software that I can run
> in Windows, preferably on the command line as outlined above?
> Googling turns up some possibilities, but I'd just as soon not take
> the time to try all of them if someone on this group has a
> recommendation. Thanks!

I have searched for a similar solution, but could not find anything that 
I would want to use. Iirc, I ended using a bookmarklet that I would 
activate while previewing pages before publication:

<https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/validation.html#validate_html>

-- 
Best wishes, Osmo

On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 20:31:23 +0300, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> 
> 23.10.2016, 2:54, Stan Brown wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone recommend good HTML 5 validation software that I can run
> > in Windows, preferably on the command line as outlined above?
> 
> The W3C Markup Validator uses the Nu Html Checker when it is asked to 
> ?validate? an HTML5 document, and that checker is available for download 
> and can be used as a command-line tool, using Java, see
> https://validator.w3.org/nu/about.html
> under ?How to to run your own copy of the Nu Html Checker?.
> 
> HTML5 is a moving target, and the Nu Html Checker is targeted to play by 
> some rules that are not entirely well-documented ? I haven?t checked 
> whether they refer to W3C HTML5, or to WHATWG Living HTML, and which 
> version (probably ?the newest?, which might be Editor?s Draft). But the 
> page mentioned starts with a useful caveat:
> 
> ?The Nu Html Checker (v.Nu) is an ongoing experiment in better HTML 
> checking, and its behavior remains subject to change. In particular, 
> because new types of error checks continue to be actively added to the 
> checker, there is no guarantee provided that if the checker reports zero 
> errors for a particular document at one point in time, it will report 
> zero errors for that same document at some later point in time.?

I'm happy to report that, in the online course I'm taking at Johns 
Hopkins, the lecturer validates every single page at the W3C 
validator.

I was taken aback -- one of the quiz questions asked if <a>...
<div>...<span>...</span>...</div>...</a> was valid. From my HTML4 
perspective, I thought it wasn't; but HTML5 really is different.

-- 
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
                                       http://BrownMath.com/
                                  http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator:      http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec:   http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator:      http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You: http://preview.tinyurl.com/WhyWont

On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 14:31:30 -0400, Ed Mullen wrote:
> On 10/23/2016 at 2:14 PM, Stan Brown's prodigious digits fired off:
> > [quoted text muted]
> > time-to-disable-it-and-heres-how/
> > [2] http://www.howtogeek.com/198960/javascript-isnt-java-its-much-
> > safer-and-much-more-useful/
> >
> 
> jre-8u111-windows-i586.exe
> 
> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html>
> 

Thanks, Ed!

-- 
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
                                       http://BrownMath.com/
                                  http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator:      http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec:   http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator:      http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You: http://preview.tinyurl.com/WhyWont