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Making a Feature Follow a Drafted Surface

I am new to Pro E and have box with the sides drafted 10 degrees. I
have also shelled the inside of the box. I need to add four tabs to the
top of the box for attachment points. I have tried sketching on the top
of the box and extruding after shelling and drafting and it will not
follow the angle of the draft. It is 90 degrees from the top straight
down when I extrude it. If I try to draw the tabs with the box
undrafted and then draft the box it drafts the tabs, but when I shell
it shells everything and the tabs must remain solid. This is driving me
crazy!!!

Any help greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Steve

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Sierevello
11/1/2006 3:48:59 AM
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Make the tabs longer. Start them at the inside edge so when they extrude 
down, they stay in the material.


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<Sierevello@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1162352939.003715.190840@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>I am new to Pro E and have box with the sides drafted 10 degrees. I
> have also shelled the inside of the box. I need to add four tabs to the
> top of the box for attachment points. I have tried sketching on the top
> of the box and extruding after shelling and drafting and it will not
> follow the angle of the draft. It is 90 degrees from the top straight
> down when I extrude it. If I try to draw the tabs with the box
> undrafted and then draft the box it drafts the tabs, but when I shell
> it shells everything and the tabs must remain solid. This is driving me
> crazy!!!
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks, Steve
> 


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Ben
11/1/2006 12:33:07 PM
Am I misunderstanding?  If you want the tabs to be co-planar with or parallel to
the drafted sides why are you extruding from a plane that is not perpendicular
to the drafted sides?

The problem is, one would think, quite simple.  Communicating it or the solution
verbally may be more difficult.  You might try posting the model to
mcadcentral.com (scads of fellow newbies) and asking someone to explain or show
you how to go about it if above doesn't solve the riddle.

(Just for the record; is 'new to pro/e' an understatement?  If you are 'new to
solid modeling' say so and help those that would offer assistance put things in
perspective.)


<Sierevello@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1162352939.003715.190840@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> I am new to Pro E and have box with the sides drafted 10 degrees. I
> have also shelled the inside of the box. I need to add four tabs to the
> top of the box for attachment points. I have tried sketching on the top
> of the box and extruding after shelling and drafting and it will not
> follow the angle of the draft. It is 90 degrees from the top straight
> down when I extrude it. If I try to draw the tabs with the box
> undrafted and then draft the box it drafts the tabs, but when I shell
> it shells everything and the tabs must remain solid. This is driving me
> crazy!!!
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks, Steve
>

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Jeff
11/1/2006 1:12:19 PM
> "Jeff Howard" <jeff4136@mindspring.com> wrote
> Am I misunderstanding?  If you want the tabs to be co-planar with or 
> parallel to
> the drafted sides why are you extruding from a plane that is not 
> perpendicular
> to the drafted sides?
>
> The problem is, one would think, quite simple.  Communicating it or the 
> solution
> verbally may be more difficult.  You might try posting the model to
> mcadcentral.com (scads of fellow newbies) and asking someone to explain or 
> show
> you how to go about it if above doesn't solve the riddle.

I might have shared your problem, Jeff. By the time I'd read the question 
through 3 times, I had about 6 different pictures of the model and modelling 
problem. ( I'm still in favor of comp.cad.pro-e as a binary NG ~ absolutely 
incredible that we vainly try to communicate [mostly quite lamely] visual 
problems with words while we have no poets, no wordsmisths who could do a 
more credible job. Guys., we've tackled a singularity: the verbally 
impossible picture; the visually impossible words ~ what would you prefer to 
judge/evaluate/troubleshoot by? words or pictures with a little verbal 
enhancement? presently we have words alone, seems lame for 3D visual model 
advocates [worthathousand.com]).

Mainly I envisioned this as a sheet metal part. 'Tabs' to me indicated 
flanges off the sides, parallel with a top/bottom surface. I mean, that is 
what a shelled box sounds like. And drafted sides? No biggy for sheet metal. 
Also, many tricky features in Pro/e benefit from surfacing. That difficult 
drafted, ribbed, flanged box turns to nothing with surfaces which will 
simply 'thicken', effortlessly. Haven't seen the design so can't say 
authoritatively, but I run into people all the time making impossible solid 
parts that should have been done, so much more simply, with surfacing.

David Janes 


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David
11/3/2006 2:24:34 AM
David Janes wrote:>
> I might have shared your problem, Jeff. By the time I'd read the question
> through 3 times, I had about 6 different pictures of the model and modelling
> problem. ( I'm still in favor of comp.cad.pro-e as a binary NG ~ absolutely
> incredible that we vainly try to communicate [mostly quite lamely] visual
> problems with words while we have no poets, no wordsmisths who could do a
> more credible job. Guys., we've tackled a singularity: the verbally
> impossible picture; the visually impossible words ~ what would you prefer to
> judge/evaluate/troubleshoot by? words or pictures with a little verbal
> enhancement? presently we have words alone, seems lame for 3D visual model
> advocates [worthathousand.com]).
>
> Mainly I envisioned this as a sheet metal part. 'Tabs' to me indicated
> flanges off the sides, parallel with a top/bottom surface. I mean, that is
> what a shelled box sounds like. And drafted sides? No biggy for sheet metal.
> Also, many tricky features in Pro/e benefit from surfacing. That difficult
> drafted, ribbed, flanged box turns to nothing with surfaces which will
> simply 'thicken', effortlessly. Haven't seen the design so can't say
> authoritatively, but I run into people all the time making impossible solid
> parts that should have been done, so much more simply, with surfacing.
>
> David Janes

What he describes makes sense to me, and I wish I had such problems ;-)

You want your features in the following order: 1. Box. 2 draft 3. Shell
4. tabs.  Use the inside edge of your box as the 4th side of your tab.
As someone else said, it will disappear inside the solid.

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graminator
11/16/2006 4:01:07 PM
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