Problem: All toolbar buttons grayed except Open Folder, Filters, Help, View,
shadow, real view while trying to measure using Select Other. Task manager
says the application is running. Can't close or save



My system also CTD once earlier in the day and had to restart.



System/Hardware

SolidWorks 2004/SPO

Windows XP Professional (up to date)

Windows Office/SP2

Video: Quadro4, 750 XGL, Driver 4.3.5.1 (Custom OpenGL Applications Setting:
SolidWorks)



History:

Never installed the beta versions on my computer

Reformatted my hard drive prior to install

Anti-Virus off during install



Since know one was reporting any problems of significance with 2004, decided
to install on my home system and become familiar. Getting familiar fast (ha)



I like many of the new features and functionality but the thrill goes away
once I start loosing work. Anyone else experiencing semi crash to desktop?



Kman

I think I had something like this once.  I think it turned out that some 
dialog box had come up and either got pushed off screen or was hidden 
behind the window or something.  It acted like it was in the middle of a 
command, waiting for some kind of input.  Did you try alt-tab?  Is this 
the first time this happened?  What were you doing when it happened?

matt.


"Kman" <kengineering@peoplepc.com> wrote in
news:vnheht4k09hv8a@corp.supernews.com: 

> Problem: All toolbar buttons grayed except Open Folder, Filters, Help,
> View, shadow, real view while trying to measure using Select Other.
> Task manager says the application is running. Can't close or save
> 
> 
> 
> My system also CTD once earlier in the day and had to restart.
> 
> 
> 
> System/Hardware
> 
> SolidWorks 2004/SPO
> 
> Windows XP Professional (up to date)
> 
> Windows Office/SP2
> 
> Video: Quadro4, 750 XGL, Driver 4.3.5.1 (Custom OpenGL Applications
> Setting: SolidWorks)
> 
> 
> 
> History:
> 
> Never installed the beta versions on my computer
> 
> Reformatted my hard drive prior to install
> 
> Anti-Virus off during install
> 
> 
> 
> Since know one was reporting any problems of significance with 2004,
> decided to install on my home system and become familiar. Getting
> familiar fast (ha) 
> 
> 
> 
> I like many of the new features and functionality but the thrill goes
> away once I start loosing work. Anyone else experiencing semi crash to
> desktop? 
> 
> 
> 
> Kman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Matt,

It happened a second time and I was able to follow what happened in more
detail. When your not looking for a problem it is sometimes hard to replay
the exact sequence of events. See explanation below.

I have not tried alt+tab


Problem: All toolbar buttons grayed except Open Folder, Filters, Help, View,
shadow, real view while trying to measure using Select Other. Task manager
says the application is running. Can't close or save file.



Sequence of events causing the hang up:

  1.. Working in assembly or sub-assembly (assembly parts were transparent
using the Change Transparency toggle button or Hidden Lines Visible mode)
  2.. Assembly component (A) concentric mate to part (B)
  3.. Enable measure tool
  4.. RMB and Select Other
  5.. Click RMB to go through face selections and make a selection
  6.. Chosen face does not show up in the measure tool selection box (note:
this doesn't occur every time the measure tool is used with transparent or
hidden lines visible mode)
  7.. Move mouse pointer over measure select box and click with left mouse
button. The selected face name appears in the selection box. At this point I
'm unable to go back to the display screen and use the rotate view mode.
  8.. Repeat steps 4-5 on another face. This is when my system toolbar
buttons gray out and system hangs up.
  9.. End SolidWorks (Windows task manager). Reopen the assembly and the
problem will not occur using the same sequence of events until I have been
working in the assembly for approximately �-1 hour.


Remarks:

This problem has occurred twice today on the same assembly, different
sub-assemblies

The sequence of steps described doesn't consistently cause a hang up.
Problem seems to occur after working in the same file for approximately �-1
hour.

Reformatted my hard drive prior to installing SolidWorks 2004/SP0 this week

Anti-Virus off during install



System/Hardware

SolidWorks 2004/SPO

Windows XP Professional (up to date)

Windows Office/SP2

Video: Quadro4, 750 XGL, Driver 4.3.5.1 (Custom OpenGL Applications Setting:
SolidWorks)



Anyone else experiencing grayed out toolbar buttons?



Kman






"matt" <m_lombard@frontier_net.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9405C40825355mnet@66.133.128.150...
> I think I had something like this once.  I think it turned out that some
> dialog box had come up and either got pushed off screen or was hidden
> behind the window or something.  It acted like it was in the middle of a
> command, waiting for some kind of input.  Did you try alt-tab?  Is this
> the first time this happened?  What were you doing when it happened?
>
> matt.
>
>
> "Kman" <kengineering@peoplepc.com> wrote in
> news:vnheht4k09hv8a@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > Problem: All toolbar buttons grayed except Open Folder, Filters, Help,
> > View, shadow, real view while trying to measure using Select Other.
> > Task manager says the application is running. Can't close or save
> >
> >
> >
> > My system also CTD once earlier in the day and had to restart.
> >
> >
> >
> > System/Hardware
> >
> > SolidWorks 2004/SPO
> >
> > Windows XP Professional (up to date)
> >
> > Windows Office/SP2
> >
> > Video: Quadro4, 750 XGL, Driver 4.3.5.1 (Custom OpenGL Applications
> > Setting: SolidWorks)
> >
> >
> >
> > History:
> >
> > Never installed the beta versions on my computer
> >
> > Reformatted my hard drive prior to install
> >
> > Anti-Virus off during install
> >
> >
> >
> > Since know one was reporting any problems of significance with 2004,
> > decided to install on my home system and become familiar. Getting
> > familiar fast (ha)
> >
> >
> >
> > I like many of the new features and functionality but the thrill goes
> > away once I start loosing work. Anyone else experiencing semi crash to
> > desktop?
> >
> >
> >
> > Kman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Kman,

Check your memory usage at intervals leading up to the weirdness. SW2004 is
an absolute memory "PIG". It will continue to absorb memory resources as you
work. The amount and frequency of the increases is disproportionate to the
actual work your doing.

Like all new releases of SW, memory isn't freed up by closing files. If you
do allot of opening and closing, the pile of unused (but allocated) memory
builds.

This is one of the typical causes of CTD

They never did completely fix 2003 with regards to this


Regards

Mark






"Kman" <kengineering@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:vnj05l2pc4piee@corp.supernews.com...
> Matt,
>
> It happened a second time and I was able to follow what happened in more
> detail. When your not looking for a problem it is sometimes hard to replay
> the exact sequence of events. See explanation below.
>
> I have not tried alt+tab
>
>
> Problem: All toolbar buttons grayed except Open Folder, Filters, Help,
View,
> shadow, real view while trying to measure using Select Other. Task manager
> says the application is running. Can't close or save file.
>
>
>
> Sequence of events causing the hang up:
>
>   1.. Working in assembly or sub-assembly (assembly parts were transparent
> using the Change Transparency toggle button or Hidden Lines Visible mode)
>   2.. Assembly component (A) concentric mate to part (B)
>   3.. Enable measure tool
>   4.. RMB and Select Other
>   5.. Click RMB to go through face selections and make a selection
>   6.. Chosen face does not show up in the measure tool selection box
(note:
> this doesn't occur every time the measure tool is used with transparent or
> hidden lines visible mode)
>   7.. Move mouse pointer over measure select box and click with left mouse
> button. The selected face name appears in the selection box. At this point
I
> 'm unable to go back to the display screen and use the rotate view mode.
>   8.. Repeat steps 4-5 on another face. This is when my system toolbar
> buttons gray out and system hangs up.
>   9.. End SolidWorks (Windows task manager). Reopen the assembly and the
> problem will not occur using the same sequence of events until I have been
> working in the assembly for approximately �-1 hour.
>
>
> Remarks:
>
> This problem has occurred twice today on the same assembly, different
> sub-assemblies
>
> The sequence of steps described doesn't consistently cause a hang up.
> Problem seems to occur after working in the same file for approximately
�-1
> hour.
>
> Reformatted my hard drive prior to installing SolidWorks 2004/SP0 this
week
>
> Anti-Virus off during install
>
>
>
> System/Hardware
>
> SolidWorks 2004/SPO
>
> Windows XP Professional (up to date)
>
> Windows Office/SP2
>
> Video: Quadro4, 750 XGL, Driver 4.3.5.1 (Custom OpenGL Applications
Setting:
> SolidWorks)
>
>
>
> Anyone else experiencing grayed out toolbar buttons?
>
>
>
> Kman
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "matt" <m_lombard@frontier_net.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9405C40825355mnet@66.133.128.150...
> > I think I had something like this once.  I think it turned out that some
> > dialog box had come up and either got pushed off screen or was hidden
> > behind the window or something.  It acted like it was in the middle of a
> > command, waiting for some kind of input.  Did you try alt-tab?  Is this
> > the first time this happened?  What were you doing when it happened?
> >
> > matt.
> >
> >
> > "Kman" <kengineering@peoplepc.com> wrote in
> > news:vnheht4k09hv8a@corp.supernews.com:
> >
> > > Problem: All toolbar buttons grayed except Open Folder, Filters, Help,
> > > View, shadow, real view while trying to measure using Select Other.
> > > Task manager says the application is running. Can't close or save
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My system also CTD once earlier in the day and had to restart.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > System/Hardware
> > >
> > > SolidWorks 2004/SPO
> > >
> > > Windows XP Professional (up to date)
> > >
> > > Windows Office/SP2
> > >
> > > Video: Quadro4, 750 XGL, Driver 4.3.5.1 (Custom OpenGL Applications
> > > Setting: SolidWorks)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > History:
> > >
> > > Never installed the beta versions on my computer
> > >
> > > Reformatted my hard drive prior to install
> > >
> > > Anti-Virus off during install
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Since know one was reporting any problems of significance with 2004,
> > > decided to install on my home system and become familiar. Getting
> > > familiar fast (ha)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I like many of the new features and functionality but the thrill goes
> > > away once I start loosing work. Anyone else experiencing semi crash to
> > > desktop?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kman
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>