http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/09/21/next_software_for_the_masses_how_about_three_dimensional_design/

On Jun 10, 6:01=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/09/21/next_so...

I didn't notice an instance where he uses the words legacy or code,
his comments are about poor management.

The article is dated Sept. 21, 2008. If that is the date of the video
as well he is hammering your CAD/CAM program de jour on that date and
the one you call the best CAD/CAM program today.

Tom

On Jun 10, 8:53=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jun 10, 6:01=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/09/21/next_so...
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> I didn't notice an instance where he uses the words legacy or code,
> his comments are about poor management.
>
> The article is dated Sept. 21, 2008. If that is the date of the video
> as well he is hammering your CAD/CAM program de jour on that date and
> the one you call the best CAD/CAM program today.
>
> Tom

You don't notice lots of things because you're a CADCAM moron.

Pro/E, now Creo Parametric, is a legacy code CADCAM program which PTC
is desperately trying to update. That you're too fucking dumb to
understand this FACT should come as a surprise to no one.

On Jun 10, 11:03=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 10, 8:53=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 10, 6:01=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > >http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/09/21/next_so.=
...
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> > I didn't notice an instance where he uses the words legacy or code,
> > his comments are about poor management.
>
> > The article is dated Sept. 21, 2008. If that is the date of the video
> > as well he is hammering your CAD/CAM program de jour on that date and
> > the one you call the best CAD/CAM program today.
>
> > Tom
>
> You don't notice lots of things because you're a CADCAM moron.
>
> Pro/E, now Creo Parametric, is a legacy code CADCAM program which PTC
> is desperately trying to update. That you're too fucking dumb to
> understand this FACT should come as a surprise to no one.



http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2012/03/upfrontezine-visited-ptc-yes=
terday.html


"well, maybe it is easier to port to iOS due to PTC's UNIX heritage,
but then again PTC's UNIX heritage seriously hurt them since their
competitor solidworks went native Windows and produced a product that
compared very favorably - pro/e was a "port" and a user was always
reminded of it via sluggish UI, etc."

"GET RID OF THE MENU MANAGER! ITS HORRIBLE!!!!!!"

"Still menu-manager remains in Creo. This company will serious
struggle against SolidWorks or Inventor when it takes them years to
get the same functionality as their competitors."

On Jun 10, 11:12=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 10, 11:03=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 10, 8:53=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 10, 6:01=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > >http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/09/21/next_s=
o...
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> > > I didn't notice an instance where he uses the words legacy or code,
> > > his comments are about poor management.
>
> > > The article is dated Sept. 21, 2008. If that is the date of the video
> > > as well he is hammering your CAD/CAM program de jour on that date and
> > > the one you call the best CAD/CAM program today.
>
> > > Tom
>
> > You don't notice lots of things because you're a CADCAM moron.
>
> > Pro/E, now Creo Parametric, is a legacy code CADCAM program which PTC
> > is desperately trying to update. That you're too fucking dumb to
> > understand this FACT should come as a surprise to no one.
>
> http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2012/03/upfrontezine-visited-p...
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> "well, maybe it is easier to port to iOS due to PTC's UNIX heritage,
> but then again PTC's UNIX heritage seriously hurt them since their
> competitor solidworks went native Windows and produced a product that
> compared very favorably - pro/e was a "port" and a user was always
> reminded of it via sluggish UI, etc."
>
> "GET RID OF THE MENU MANAGER! ITS HORRIBLE!!!!!!"
>
> "Still menu-manager remains in Creo. This company will serious
> struggle against SolidWorks or Inventor when it takes them years to
> get the same functionality as their competitors."


Creo Parametric has been reported by the CADCAM press as being a total
redo of Pro/E Wildfire with a new easy to use Windows Ribbon user
interface. No one that I know of in the CADCAM press actually took the
time to see if this was really the case and just reported the complete
bullshit that PTC fed them.

Creo Parmetric user interface is little more than a cosmetic rehab of
Pro/E Wildfire (which in itself was a cosmetic rehab of Pro/E)

Once again PTC has not come close to delivering what they promised
they would deliver with Creo."

Here is the proof in screenshots of Creo Parmetric 1.0 showing the
CREO Parametric still has tons of UNIX based menus in it: (See the:
What's Wrong With The CADCAM Press blog)

"Similarly as I sit with my 4 core/8 threads workstation watching
Solidworks only using one core I get angry. These are kernel issues
that slow things down." ... Kevin Quigley

"There is a lot of legacy inside all the main kernals now. I think the
CAD world needs a new more efficient one." ... Kevin Quigley

 "So I=92m playing around then with the Task Manager and all doing these
kernal tasks I see only one core is active =96 much like SolidWorks.
This cannot help. How long before Parasolid and ACIS are able to
handle more than one core?" ... Kevin Quigley

On Jun 10, 11:03=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 10, 8:53=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 10, 6:01=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > >http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/09/21/next_so.=
...
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> > I didn't notice an instance where he uses the words legacy or code,
> > his comments are about poor management.
>
> > The article is dated Sept. 21, 2008. If that is the date of the video
> > as well he is hammering your CAD/CAM program de jour on that date and
> > the one you call the best CAD/CAM program today.
>
> > Tom
>
> You don't notice lots of things because you're a CADCAM moron.
>
> Pro/E, now Creo Parametric, is a legacy code CADCAM program which PTC
> is desperately trying to update. That you're too fucking dumb to
> understand this FACT should come as a surprise to no one.

Sorry Jon, it was a joke and maybe just a bit too vague.

Tom

On Jun 11, 7:22=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jun 10, 11:03=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 10, 8:53=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 10, 6:01=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > >http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/09/21/next_s=
o...
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> > > I didn't notice an instance where he uses the words legacy or code,
> > > his comments are about poor management.
>
> > > The article is dated Sept. 21, 2008. If that is the date of the video
> > > as well he is hammering your CAD/CAM program de jour on that date and
> > > the one you call the best CAD/CAM program today.
>
> > > Tom
>
> > You don't notice lots of things because you're a CADCAM moron.
>
> > Pro/E, now Creo Parametric, is a legacy code CADCAM program which PTC
> > is desperately trying to update. That you're too fucking dumb to
> > understand this FACT should come as a surprise to no one.
>
> Sorry Jon, it was a joke and maybe just a bit too vague.
>
> Tom

Maybe instead of acting like an asshole to cover your CADCAM knowledge
gap, you should focus on whether or not you believe legacy CADCAM
programs can be updated to stay relevant.

PTC has shown where Creo Parametric can been updated to be superior to
SolidWorks. Any idea what area I'm talking about?

On Jun 11, 8:09=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 7:22=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 10, 11:03=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 10, 8:53=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jun 10, 6:01=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > >http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/09/21/next=
_so...
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> > > > I didn't notice an instance where he uses the words legacy or code,
> > > > his comments are about poor management.
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> > > > The article is dated Sept. 21, 2008. If that is the date of the vid=
eo
> > > > as well he is hammering your CAD/CAM program de jour on that date a=
nd
> > > > the one you call the best CAD/CAM program today.
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> > > > Tom
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> > > You don't notice lots of things because you're a CADCAM moron.
>
> > > Pro/E, now Creo Parametric, is a legacy code CADCAM program which PTC
> > > is desperately trying to update. That you're too fucking dumb to
> > > understand this FACT should come as a surprise to no one.
>
> > Sorry Jon, it was a joke and maybe just a bit too vague.
>
> > Tom
>
> Maybe instead of acting like an asshole to cover your CADCAM knowledge
> gap, you should focus on whether or not you believe legacy CADCAM
> programs can be updated to stay relevant.
>
> PTC has shown where Creo Parametric can been updated to be superior to
> SolidWorks. Any idea what area I'm talking about?

Another video?...........LOL

On Jun 11, 9:20=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 8:09=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 11, 7:22=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 10, 11:03=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jun 10, 8:53=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Jun 10, 6:01=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/09/21/ne=
xt_so...
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> > > > > I didn't notice an instance where he uses the words legacy or cod=
e,
> > > > > his comments are about poor management.
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> > > > > The article is dated Sept. 21, 2008. If that is the date of the v=
ideo
> > > > > as well he is hammering your CAD/CAM program de jour on that date=
 and
> > > > > the one you call the best CAD/CAM program today.
>
> > > > > Tom
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> > > > You don't notice lots of things because you're a CADCAM moron.
>
> > > > Pro/E, now Creo Parametric, is a legacy code CADCAM program which P=
TC
> > > > is desperately trying to update. That you're too fucking dumb to
> > > > understand this FACT should come as a surprise to no one.
>
> > > Sorry Jon, it was a joke and maybe just a bit too vague.
>
> > > Tom
>
> > Maybe instead of acting like an asshole to cover your CADCAM knowledge
> > gap, you should focus on whether or not you believe legacy CADCAM
> > programs can be updated to stay relevant.
>
> > PTC has shown where Creo Parametric can been updated to be superior to
> > SolidWorks. Any idea what area I'm talking about?
>
> Another video?...........LOL

Yup.

On Jun 11, 9:25=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 9:20=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 11, 8:09=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 11, 7:22=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jun 10, 11:03=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Jun 10, 8:53=A0pm, brewertr <brewe...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Jun 10, 6:01=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > >http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/09/21/=
next_so...
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> > > > > > I didn't notice an instance where he uses the words legacy or c=
ode,
> > > > > > his comments are about poor management.
>
> > > > > > The article is dated Sept. 21, 2008. If that is the date of the=
 video
> > > > > > as well he is hammering your CAD/CAM program de jour on that da=
te and
> > > > > > the one you call the best CAD/CAM program today.
>
> > > > > > Tom
>
> > > > > You don't notice lots of things because you're a CADCAM moron.
>
> > > > > Pro/E, now Creo Parametric, is a legacy code CADCAM program which=
 PTC
> > > > > is desperately trying to update. That you're too fucking dumb to
> > > > > understand this FACT should come as a surprise to no one.
>
> > > > Sorry Jon, it was a joke and maybe just a bit too vague.
>
> > > > Tom
>
> > > Maybe instead of acting like an asshole to cover your CADCAM knowledg=
e
> > > gap, you should focus on whether or not you believe legacy CADCAM
> > > programs can be updated to stay relevant.
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> > > PTC has shown where Creo Parametric can been updated to be superior t=
o
> > > SolidWorks. Any idea what area I'm talking about?
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> > Another video?...........LOL
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> Yup.

ROFLMAO

Tom

On Jun 10, 6:01=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/09/21/next_so...

http://www.topsolid.com/news-and-events/press-releases/press-release-detail=
/article/the-creation-of-missler-software-inc-to-strengthen-topsolid-in-the=
-usa.htm

"TopSolid is the only CAD/CAM software on the global market to be
completely rethought and rewritten both in terms of software
technology and methodology."

"At the last SolidWorks World I attended, my 10th, I was bored out of
my mind and disappointed at the lack of any significant new tools or
even ideas."

http://ontheedge.dezignstuff.com/drink-from-the-firehose/382#comment-1155

On Jun 12, 4:56=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 10, 6:01=A0pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2008/09/21/next_so...
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> http://www.topsolid.com/news-and-events/press-releases/press-release-...
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> "TopSolid is the only CAD/CAM software on the global market to be
> completely rethought and rewritten both in terms of software
> technology and methodology."

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