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Few more questions re FMPRo Server...

1. Does FMPro Server contain FMPro.... by that, I mean can you open the fp5
files from FMPRo Server software?

2. Must you have regular server software (WIN NT, WIN 2000, etc)  on the
machine with the FMPro Server software or can FMPro Server be standalone?



Thanks

Al


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Reply Alan 1/15/2004 5:54:15 PM

No, FMS is only the server for Filemaker Pro files. While you obviously need
FMP to develop the hosted files, it need not (and actually should not,
although it often is) be installed on the server box. Every client machine
requires a license for FMP to connect to the hosted files.

On Windows, server software will run FMS better than non-server (the OS is
optimized to do only that task well), but latter-day versions of the client
OS will work. I don't know what happens if you hit the OS client limit (5 or
10?); I should think that, since FMS uses its own proprietary network
protocol, that the limit wouldn't apply. In any event, if you are hosting
large files to a lot of clients, you really would want to use a proper
server OS.

On a Mac OS X machine, there is no real benefit to using the Server OS, at
least in their recent versions. Filemaker, in fact, has been recommending
the non-server OS.

-- 
John Weinshel
Datagrace
Vashon Island, WA
(206) 463-1634
Associate Member, Filemaker Solutions Alliance


"Alan Lawrance" <ajlawrance@home.com> wrote in message
news:btANb.111307$JQ1.75747@pd7tw1no...
> Few more questions re FMPRo Server...
>
> 1. Does FMPro Server contain FMPro.... by that, I mean can you open the
fp5
> files from FMPRo Server software?
>
> 2. Must you have regular server software (WIN NT, WIN 2000, etc)  on the
> machine with the FMPro Server software or can FMPro Server be standalone?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Al
>
>


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Reply John 1/15/2004 8:30:38 PM


In article <100du1vaqkhuk9d@news.supernews.com>, John Weinshel
<john@datagrace.biz> wrote:

> 
> On a Mac OS X machine, there is no real benefit to using the Server OS, at
> least in their recent versions. Filemaker, in fact, has been recommending
> the non-server OS.

More details here please.  This is certainly contrary to both my
understanding and my experience.

Chuck Boody

-- 
Musicmad
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Reply Musicmad 1/16/2004 5:59:11 AM

Which part-- that there's no real benefit, or that FMI has not been
recommending Server OS?

In fairness, FMI has talked mainly about the the Server machine. Up 'til
now, they've been releasing them with ATA drives (unless you spring for the
RAID). Because FMS is so disk intensive, the thinking has been that any gain
from a leaner OS would be offset by the loss from the hardware. The
difference between a stock drive and a separate and fast controller/drive
(RAID and/or SCSI) is pretty dramatic.

But I imagine it's still possible to put the Server OS on a non-server box,
or, conversely, put SCSI and/or RAID on the Server box. I'm sure that would
run fine, but I doubt you'd gain much for your trouble.

When I talk about 'FMI recommends', I mean mostly what their SE ('senior
engineer') for server says at Devcon. I believe the Best Practices white
paper makes the same point.

-- 
John Weinshel
Datagrace
Vashon Island, WA
(206) 463-1634
Associate Member, Filemaker Solutions Alliance


"Musicmad" <musicmaker@mysite.com> wrote in message
news:150120042359112797%musicmaker@mysite.com...
> In article <100du1vaqkhuk9d@news.supernews.com>, John Weinshel
> <john@datagrace.biz> wrote:
>
> >
> > On a Mac OS X machine, there is no real benefit to using the Server OS,
at
> > least in their recent versions. Filemaker, in fact, has been
recommending
> > the non-server OS.
>
> More details here please.  This is certainly contrary to both my
> understanding and my experience.
>
> Chuck Boody
>
> -- 
> Musicmad


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Reply John 1/16/2004 6:30:12 PM

color me dumb!

I misread your note.  You were referring to OS X server not FMPro
server.  And, of course, if I had read correctly you are totally right. 
BTW we "automatically" purchase fast SCSI drives for FMPro server
machines....

Chuck Boody

=====
In article <100gbc4e7j7vjcc@news.supernews.com>, John Weinshel
<john@datagrace.biz> wrote:

> Which part-- that there's no real benefit, or that FMI has not been
> recommending Server OS?
> 
> In fairness, FMI has talked mainly about the the Server machine. Up 'til
> now, they've been releasing them with ATA drives (unless you spring for the
> RAID). Because FMS is so disk intensive, the thinking has been that any gain
> from a leaner OS would be offset by the loss from the hardware. The
> difference between a stock drive and a separate and fast controller/drive
> (RAID and/or SCSI) is pretty dramatic.
> 
> But I imagine it's still possible to put the Server OS on a non-server box,
> or, conversely, put SCSI and/or RAID on the Server box. I'm sure that would
> run fine, but I doubt you'd gain much for your trouble.
> 
> When I talk about 'FMI recommends', I mean mostly what their SE ('senior
> engineer') for server says at Devcon. I believe the Best Practices white
> paper makes the same point.
> 
> -- 
> John Weinshel
> Datagrace
> Vashon Island, WA
> (206) 463-1634
> Associate Member, Filemaker Solutions Alliance
> 
> 
> "Musicmad" <musicmaker@mysite.com> wrote in message
> news:150120042359112797%musicmaker@mysite.com...
> > In article <100du1vaqkhuk9d@news.supernews.com>, John Weinshel
> > <john@datagrace.biz> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On a Mac OS X machine, there is no real benefit to using the Server OS,
> at
> > > least in their recent versions. Filemaker, in fact, has been
> recommending
> > > the non-server OS.
> >
> > More details here please.  This is certainly contrary to both my
> > understanding and my experience.
> >

-- 
Musicmad
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Reply Musicmad 1/17/2004 6:27:58 AM

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