Is the runtime engine that allows a FMPro database to be run by someone 
who doesn't have FMPro only available in the Developer 7 product or is 
it also part of Filemaker Pro 7?

Thanks,
Ed

In article <OqJMc.1960$zA4.1582@lakeread04>, Adguru <elakin@cox.net> 
wrote:

> Is the runtime engine that allows a FMPro database to be run by someone 
> who doesn't have FMPro only available in the Developer 7 product or is 
> it also part of Filemaker Pro 7?

Only in the Developer product.

Thanks, Matthew.
Ed



Matthew Smith wrote:

> In article <OqJMc.1960$zA4.1582@lakeread04>, Adguru <elakin@cox.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Is the runtime engine that allows a FMPro database to be run by someone 
>>who doesn't have FMPro only available in the Developer 7 product or is 
>>it also part of Filemaker Pro 7?
> 
> 
> Only in the Developer product.

In article <matty_d-CBF0B6.23520825072004@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
Matthew Smith <matty_d@macxxx.com> wrote:

> In article <OqJMc.1960$zA4.1582@lakeread04>, Adguru <elakin@cox.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Is the runtime engine that allows a FMPro database to be run by someone 
> > who doesn't have FMPro only available in the Developer 7 product or is 
> > it also part of Filemaker Pro 7?
> 
> Only in the Developer product.

And almost the only reason that FileMaker Developer is worth buying
instead of normal FileMaker for most "developers" ... although version
7 appears to have a few more interesting "toys" than previous ones. 
:o)

Helpful Harry                   
Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships  ;o)

In article <260720041845506570%helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com>,
 Helpful Harry <helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com> wrote:

> In article <matty_d-CBF0B6.23520825072004@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
> Matthew Smith <matty_d@macxxx.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <OqJMc.1960$zA4.1582@lakeread04>, Adguru <elakin@cox.net> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Is the runtime engine that allows a FMPro database to be run by someone 
> > > who doesn't have FMPro only available in the Developer 7 product or is 
> > > it also part of Filemaker Pro 7?
> > 
> > Only in the Developer product.
> 
> And almost the only reason that FileMaker Developer is worth buying
> instead of normal FileMaker for most "developers" ... although version
> 7 appears to have a few more interesting "toys" than previous ones. 
> :o)

The ability to create custom functions in Developer 7 is enticing.

Sorry, Harry - but I've got to respectfully disagree with you on this. 
I personally don't need to make runtimes very often.  But the Developer 
version does include the file renaming tool, which is quite handy.  But 
more than that, I would spend so much more time debugging if it weren't 
for the debugging tool.  And being able to define your own custom 
functions -- recursive functions, at that -- is a huge feature for any 
developer.  And some people might find the DDR (Database Design Report) 
useful, although there are some other much better third-party tools for 
analyzing your database.

Helpful Harry wrote:
> In article <matty_d-CBF0B6.23520825072004@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
> Matthew Smith <matty_d@macxxx.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>In article <OqJMc.1960$zA4.1582@lakeread04>, Adguru <elakin@cox.net> 
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Is the runtime engine that allows a FMPro database to be run by someone 
>>>who doesn't have FMPro only available in the Developer 7 product or is 
>>>it also part of Filemaker Pro 7?
>>
>>Only in the Developer product.
> 
> 
> And almost the only reason that FileMaker Developer is worth buying
> instead of normal FileMaker for most "developers" ... although version
> 7 appears to have a few more interesting "toys" than previous ones. 
> :o)
> 
> Helpful Harry                   
> Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships  ;o)

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Schlossberg              (818) 883-2846
FM Pro Solutions       Los Angeles, California
Associate Member, FileMaker Solutions Alliance

Howard Schlossberg <howard@antispahm.fmprosolutions.com> writes:

> Sorry, Harry - but I've got to respectfully disagree with you on this. I
> personally don't need to make runtimes very often.  But the Developer
> version does include the file renaming tool, which is quite handy.  But
> more than that, I would spend so much more time debugging if it weren't for

-snipped-

For anyone aout there deep into filemaker - the Custom Function
capabilities alone is reason enough to pay the extra moolah.

loulou

In article <ypq2k6wpjumj.fsf@sdf.lonestar.org>, Lou Lesko
<loulesko@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

> Howard Schlossberg <howard@antispahm.fmprosolutions.com> writes:
> 
> > Sorry, Harry - but I've got to respectfully disagree with you on this. I
> > personally don't need to make runtimes very often.  But the Developer
> > version does include the file renaming tool, which is quite handy.  But
> > more than that, I would spend so much more time debugging if it weren't for
> 
> -snipped-
> 
> For anyone aout there deep into filemaker - the Custom Function
> capabilities alone is reason enough to pay the extra moolah.
> 
> loulou

I was talking about earlier versions of Developer which didn't really
offer much over normal FileMaker (except for the Runtime creation) to
justify the price difference, and did also say that Developer 7 does
have some interesting "toys".  :o)

Helpful Harry                   
Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships  ;o)

Lou Lesko wrote:
> For anyone aout there deep into filemaker - the Custom Function
> capabilities alone is reason enough to pay the extra moolah.

I ain't gonna get it, but what does the Custom Function do?
-- 
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk ..."
    -till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
        consul@INVALIDdolphins-cove.com ((remove the INVALID to email))

Well, just like the Sum() function is built-in with your copy.  You could
make your own function that does whatever you want.  Like LouCount() etc.
That should be good enough because you said "I ain't gonna get it".

-- 

Paul

"~consul" <consul@INVALIDdolphins-cove.com> wrote in message
news:cero5g$jqo$2@gist.usc.edu...
> Lou Lesko wrote:
> > For anyone aout there deep into filemaker - the Custom Function
> > capabilities alone is reason enough to pay the extra moolah.
>
> I ain't gonna get it, but what does the Custom Function do?
> -- 
> "... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk ..."
>     -till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x-
<<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
>         consul@INVALIDdolphins-cove.com ((remove the INVALID to email))
>

in article cero5g$jqo$2@gist.usc.edu, ~consul at
consul@INVALIDdolphins-cove.com wrote on 5/8/04 8:32 AM:

> I ain't gonna get it, but what does the Custom Function do?

Any calculation that you can make in filemaker can be turned into a custom
function in filemaker developer (and thereafter called just like any other
function in filemaker in calc fields and scripts).  This is especially
useful for long, complex calculations that are used repeatedly, either
within a larger calculation and/or at various places within a solution.  For
example, it is a fairly simple matter to create a custom function which
calculates the difference between two dates in years, months and days, which
in turn can be used for calculating age, anniversaries, elapsed time, time
remaining, and so on. One custom function, multiple applications. Any bit of
code that you have ever had to use more than once within a single solution
is a possible candidate for a custom function.

Later on, if you find a better way to do the same job (or find a mistake
that needs to be corrected), you only have to change it in one place.

Custom functions can also do one thing that ordinary calculations cannot -
they can be made to call themselves recursively, effectively creating a loop
within a calculation. Ordinarily, self referencing is a bad thing (so much
so that it is not even possible within pre7 calc fields) but under
controlled conditions, it can be extremely powerful (and by controlled
conditions, I mean specifying the conditions under which to exit the loop
and accounting for all contingencies). For example, you can now create a
custom function that creates a multiline key of all dates between a given
start date and an end date.  Anyone who knows how powerful a multiline key
can be, and has struggled to do this pre7,  will love this.

Last but not least, custom functions allow you to protect your best code
from prying eyes while giving your clients full access to its functionality.

Bridget Eley

* Paul <pzspam@rogers.com>:
> Well, just like the Sum() function is built-in with your copy.  You could
> make your own function that does whatever you want.  Like LouCount() etc.
> That should be good enough because you said "I ain't gonna get it".
> 
Yo man look at who your slamin' - my post wasn't the one that said "I
aint gonna get it." - mine was the one one that said custom functions
are essential.

lou