This seems very fundamental but I just can not see the wood for the 
trees.
When building a new List view/report with the wizard there is an option 
to set a sort order for this list.
Question -- How to change this order after the layout is finished.?



-- 
John G

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:31:25 +1100, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au>
wrote:

>This seems very fundamental but I just can not see the wood for the 
>trees.
>When building a new List view/report with the wizard there is an option 
>to set a sort order for this list.
>Question -- How to change this order after the layout is finished.?

Under Records menu click on Unsort.

The wizard also gives you the option to create a default script which
will go to that layout and then sort the records based on the sort
order you selected. That is the primary function of selecting a sort
order. So if your not interested in sorting those records, simply skip
that part of the wizard.

M Myett

Michael Myett pretended :
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:31:25 +1100, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> This seems very fundamental but I just can not see the wood for the 
>> trees.
>> When building a new List view/report with the wizard there is an option 
>> to set a sort order for this list.
>> Question -- How to change this order after the layout is finished.?
>
> Under Records menu click on Unsort.
>
> The wizard also gives you the option to create a default script which
> will go to that layout and then sort the records based on the sort
> order you selected. That is the primary function of selecting a sort
> order. So if your not interested in sorting those records, simply skip
> that part of the wizard.
>
> M Myett

I want to modify the default sort set in the step before generating a 
scrip. In fact I did not particularly want a script there if I could 
avoid it.
Of course I could build another layout with the sort I want and 
deletete the earlier one but I just think there should be a way to 
modify the original.

-- 
John G

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:18:30 +1100, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au>
wrote:

>Michael Myett pretended :
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:31:25 +1100, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This seems very fundamental but I just can not see the wood for the 
>>> trees.
>>> When building a new List view/report with the wizard there is an option 
>>> to set a sort order for this list.
>>> Question -- How to change this order after the layout is finished.?
>>
>> Under Records menu click on Unsort.
>>
>> The wizard also gives you the option to create a default script which
>> will go to that layout and then sort the records based on the sort
>> order you selected. That is the primary function of selecting a sort
>> order. So if your not interested in sorting those records, simply skip
>> that part of the wizard.
>>
>> M Myett
>
>I want to modify the default sort set in the step before generating a 
>scrip. In fact I did not particularly want a script there if I could 
>avoid it.
>Of course I could build another layout with the sort I want and 
>deletete the earlier one but I just think there should be a way to 
>modify the original.

There is. Resort the records by going to Records > Sort in the menu
items while on the layout you created. If you do not want a script
simply go to manage scripts and delete it or tell the wizard not to
create it in the first place. If you want the script but w/ a new sort
order, go to manage scripts and edit the script to create the sort
order you desire.

The script is not built into the layout or perminent. There is always
a way to modify something in FileMaker.

Michael Myett explained :
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:18:30 +1100, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Michael Myett pretended :
>>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:31:25 +1100, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This seems very fundamental but I just can not see the wood for the 
>>>> trees.
>>>> When building a new List view/report with the wizard there is an option 
>>>> to set a sort order for this list.
>>>> Question -- How to change this order after the layout is finished.?
>>> 
>>> Under Records menu click on Unsort.
>>> 
>>> The wizard also gives you the option to create a default script which
>>> will go to that layout and then sort the records based on the sort
>>> order you selected. That is the primary function of selecting a sort
>>> order. So if your not interested in sorting those records, simply skip
>>> that part of the wizard.
>>> 
>>> M Myett
>> 
>> I want to modify the default sort set in the step before generating a 
>> scrip. In fact I did not particularly want a script there if I could 
>> avoid it.
>> Of course I could build another layout with the sort I want and 
>> deletete the earlier one but I just think there should be a way to 
>> modify the original.
>
> There is. Resort the records by going to Records > Sort in the menu
> items while on the layout you created. If you do not want a script
> simply go to manage scripts and delete it or tell the wizard not to
> create it in the first place. If you want the script but w/ a new sort
> order, go to manage scripts and edit the script to create the sort
> order you desire.
>
> The script is not built into the layout or perminent. There is always
> a way to modify something in FileMaker.

I am sorry if I did not tell you this FM 11.
There is no script and of course I know how to resort the records.
In Fm 11 when you create a layout you can create a default sort order 
for that layout. No scripts involved.
What I am asking is how to change that default sort order without 
making a new layout.

-- 
John G

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:59:48 +1100, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au>
wrote:

>Michael Myett explained :
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:18:30 +1100, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Myett pretended :
>>>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:31:25 +1100, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This seems very fundamental but I just can not see the wood for the 
>>>>> trees.
>>>>> When building a new List view/report with the wizard there is an option 
>>>>> to set a sort order for this list.
>>>>> Question -- How to change this order after the layout is finished.?
>>>> 
>>>> Under Records menu click on Unsort.
>>>> 
>>>> The wizard also gives you the option to create a default script which
>>>> will go to that layout and then sort the records based on the sort
>>>> order you selected. That is the primary function of selecting a sort
>>>> order. So if your not interested in sorting those records, simply skip
>>>> that part of the wizard.
>>>> 
>>>> M Myett
>>> 
>>> I want to modify the default sort set in the step before generating a 
>>> scrip. In fact I did not particularly want a script there if I could 
>>> avoid it.
>>> Of course I could build another layout with the sort I want and 
>>> deletete the earlier one but I just think there should be a way to 
>>> modify the original.
>>
>> There is. Resort the records by going to Records > Sort in the menu
>> items while on the layout you created. If you do not want a script
>> simply go to manage scripts and delete it or tell the wizard not to
>> create it in the first place. If you want the script but w/ a new sort
>> order, go to manage scripts and edit the script to create the sort
>> order you desire.
>>
>> The script is not built into the layout or perminent. There is always
>> a way to modify something in FileMaker.
>
>I am sorry if I did not tell you this FM 11.
>There is no script and of course I know how to resort the records.
>In Fm 11 when you create a layout you can create a default sort order 
>for that layout. No scripts involved.
>What I am asking is how to change that default sort order without 
>making a new layout.

As I originally stated, go to the Records menu then select Unsort. How
are they being sorted again? Just going to a layout doesn't sort
records. All the wizard did was create a layout, once you've unsorted
the records they will stay that way until unsorted. FM 11 has nothing
to do with it.

when you create the layout you do not need to choose a sort order you
can skip this step. and it' not really a default, it sorts that way
after the wizard is complete but once it is resorted does not go back
to what you are calling the default.