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RE: Restore Informix software & Database to another server #4

In my personal opinion, why bother using ufsdump when you could restore with 
ontape.  Don't forget that all chunk structures must be the same but that 
ontape & ufsdump might not read & write the same way, thus creating 
incompatibilities.  There is gain in using ufsdump versus the potential 
problems just like the one you encountered.

Andr�


>From: St�phane Gadoury <stephane.gadoury@transat.com>
>To: <informix-list@iiug.org>
>Subject: RE: Restore Informix software & Database to another server
>Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:54:50 -0500
>
>Make sure you don't have any informix process still running..and grabbing
>memory
>
>Verify with ipcs -m
>
>Also, verify your $ONCONFIG, so that you SHMBASE goes with the release 
>notes
>( if should not impact, but you never know)
>
>If that still does not work, try reducing the SHMVIRTSIZE
>
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : owner-informix-list@iiug.org
>[mailto:owner-informix-list@iiug.org]De la part de Paul Watson
>Envoy� : 19 janvier, 2004 06:18
>� : informix-list@iiug.org
>Objet : Re: Restore Informix software & Database to another server
>
>
>Check the release note in $INFORMIXDIR/release/*/*/ or look in the
>/etc/system on the working server
>
>KW Foo wrote:
> >
> > What should I check in the /etc/system ?
> >
> > Regards,
> > KW Foo
> >
> > --
> > "Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> wrote in message
> > news:400B9841.75DB2436@oninit.com...
> > > Have you checked that the /etc/system on the second server is correct
> > >
> > > KW Foo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We are trying to backup the server which includes the Informix 7.31
> > > > application and the data and restore to another server.
> > > >
> > > > We are running the Informix in SUN Solaris 2.6, backup the server
>using
> > > > "ufsdump" to the tape drive and restore using the "ufsrestore" to
> > another
> > > > server (with the same directory structure and hardware).
> > > >
> > > > We use "ufsdump" to backup the informix software and also all the
> > Informix
> > > > chunk directories after we shutdown the Informix using "onmode -ky".
> > > >
> > > > We also did an "ontape" level 0 backup to a tape.
> > > >
> > > > After we restore the application and the Informix chunk directory,
>when
> > we
> > > > try to start the Informix engine using "oninit", the server go into
> > "FAST
> > > > RECOVERY" mode, after few minutes, it display message "oninit: Fatal
> > error
> > > > in shared memory initialization".
> > > >
> > > > The following are the message recorded in the online.log:
> > > >
> > > > 13:41:32  Informix Dynamic Server Initialized -- Shared Memory
> > Initialized.
> > > > 13:41:32  Physical Recovery Started.
> > > > 13:45:16  Physical Recovery Complete: 84946 Pages Restored.
> > > > 13:45:16  Logical Recovery Started.
> > > > 13:45:16  shmget: [ENOMEM][12]: key 52564806: out of shared memory,
> > check
> > > > system
> > > >  max shared memory segment size
> > > > 13:45:16  out of virtual shared memory
> > > >
> > > > 13:45:16  Cannot Rollforward from Checkpoint.
> > > > 13:45:17  Informix Dynamic Server Stopped.
> > > > 13:45:18  mt_shm_remove: WARNING: may not have removed all/correct
> > segments
> > > >
> > > > After that, we check the "onstat -", and receive message "shared
>memory
> > not
> > > > initialized for INFORMIXSERVER 'informix'".
> > > >
> > > > Is this the way to do it and how can I get the Informix engine up to
> > restore
> > > > from the "ontape" backup ?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > KW Foo
> > >
> > > --
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"Andr� D�ziel" <dansika@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bui9qg$m49$1@terabinaries.xmission.com...
>
> In my personal opinion, why bother using ufsdump when you could restore
with
> ontape.  Don't forget that all chunk structures must be the same but that
> ontape & ufsdump might not read & write the same way, thus creating
> incompatibilities.  There is gain in using ufsdump versus the potential
> problems just like the one you encountered.
>
> Andr�


.... although it would seem that his problems are not actually related to the
dump/restore of his chunks, but of his failure to do the same for some
important non-Informix files.  It ought to be an acceptable technique for a
shut-down database housed entirely on cooked file, although like you I
wouldn't do it that way, for reasons of speed for example.  Not sure what
you mean by "ontape & ufsdump might not read & write the same way, thus
creating incompatibilities."


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Hi Uday, We did considered using the HPL but only because that was the only thing available and it takes a lot of configuration work, we are kinnda short on time and the product we are working on will be deployed to various other clients so we were looking for a generic solution. By the way is there a way of running HPL without creating its underlying database and stuff. I mean just run it like a command line utility more like bulk loader available for SQL server? Thanks and Regards, Aash -----Original Message----- From: Uday Kale [mailto:udayk@us.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 9:25 PM To: Aashish Ramsinghani - ASDC, Chennai Cc: informix-list@iiug.org; owner-informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Moving Informix TableSpaces between databases I think your best bet would be to use HPL to unload data from the logged db and load it into the non-logged db as long as they both have the same schema(=table definition). Regards, Uday. Inactive hide details for "Aashish Ramsinghani - ASDC, Chennai" ' src="cid:437041605@12122005-1cb3" width=16 border=0>"Aashish Ramsinghani - ASDC, Chennai" <Aashishsr@hcl.in> "Aashish Ramsinghani - ASDC, Chennai" <Aashishsr@hcl.in> Sent by: owner-informix-list@iiug.org 12/09/2005 07:01 AM To informix-list@iiug.org cc Subject Moving Informix TableSpaces between databases Hi I am using ...

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