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#### Rounding when converting float to integer

```Cint(3/2) = 2 (rounded up, I would have thought the answer would be 1)

Cint(5/2) = 2 (rounded down)

The Access help says Cint() rounds to the nearest even number, but why??

Do I need to "roll my own" integer conversion to get it to always round up
or down?

I looked at Cint(3\2) and Cint(5\2) which seems to consistently round
down... that may do.
--
regards,

Br@dley

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```Br@dley wrote:
> Cint(3/2) = 2 (rounded up, I would have thought the answer would be 1)
>
> Cint(5/2) = 2 (rounded down)
>
> The Access help says Cint() rounds to the nearest even number, but why??
>
> Do I need to "roll my own" integer conversion to get it to always round up
> or down?
>
> I looked at Cint(3\2) and Cint(5\2) which seems to consistently round
> down... that may do.

Format(3/2)  -> 1.5  a string.  To get a number use Val(Format(3/2)).

Int(Format(3/2)) -> 1.  Int() removes the decimal.

Format(5/2) -> 2.5 a string.

Val(Format(5/2)) -> 2.5.  Int(Format(5/2)) - > 2.

--
Oakland, CA (USA)
```
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me2968 (1474)
4/13/2006 2:06:52 AM
```Public Function Ceiling(ByVal d As Double) As Long
Ceiling = -(Int(-d))
End Function

```
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lylefairfield (1852)
4/13/2006 2:37:54 AM
```MGFoster wrote:
> Br@dley wrote:
>> Cint(3/2) = 2 (rounded up, I would have thought the answer would be
>> 1) Cint(5/2) = 2 (rounded down)
>>
>> The Access help says Cint() rounds to the nearest even number, but
>> why?? Do I need to "roll my own" integer conversion to get it to always
>> round up or down?
>>
>> I looked at Cint(3\2) and Cint(5\2) which seems to consistently round
>> down... that may do.
>
> Format(3/2)  -> 1.5  a string.  To get a number use Val(Format(3/2)).
>
> Int(Format(3/2)) -> 1.  Int() removes the decimal.
>
> Format(5/2) -> 2.5 a string.
>
> Val(Format(5/2)) -> 2.5.  Int(Format(5/2)) - > 2.

Ta. I guess my main question was WHY the Cint() rounds to the nearest even
number?? Just interested in the reasoning for implementing it that way.
--
regards,

Br@dley

```
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4/13/2006 2:51:28 AM
```"Br@dley" <dontlookforme@google.com> wrote in
news:e1keco\$1n3\$1@news-02.connect.com.au:

> MGFoster wrote:
>> Br@dley wrote:
>>> Cint(3/2) = 2 (rounded up, I would have thought the answer would be
>>> 1) Cint(5/2) = 2 (rounded down)
>>>
>>> The Access help says Cint() rounds to the nearest even number, but
>>> why?? Do I need to "roll my own" integer conversion to get it to
>>> always round up or down?
>>>
>>> I looked at Cint(3\2) and Cint(5\2) which seems to consistently
>>> round down... that may do.
>>
>> Format(3/2)  -> 1.5  a string.  To get a number use Val(Format(3/2)).
>>
>> Int(Format(3/2)) -> 1.  Int() removes the decimal.
>>
>> Format(5/2) -> 2.5 a string.
>>
>> Val(Format(5/2)) -> 2.5.  Int(Format(5/2)) - > 2.
>
> Ta. I guess my main question was WHY the Cint() rounds to the nearest
> even number?? Just interested in the reasoning for implementing it
> that way.

So that the sum of a bunch of rounded numbers will approximate the sum of
the same numbers before rounding.

--
Lyle Fairfield
```
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lylefairfield (1852)
4/13/2006 3:07:20 AM
```Br@dley wrote in message <e1k7c1\$lqv\$1@news-02.connect.com.au> :
> Cint(3/2) = 2 (rounded up, I would have thought the answer would be
> 1)
>
> Cint(5/2) = 2 (rounded down)
>
> The Access help says Cint() rounds to the nearest even number, but
> why??
>
> Do I need to "roll my own" integer conversion to get it to always
> round up or down?
>
> I looked at Cint(3\2) and Cint(5\2) which seems to consistently round
> down... that may do.

Check out these (watch for linebreaks in the links)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/modcore/html/deconconversionroundingtruncation.asp
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;196652

--
Roy-Vidar

```
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4/13/2006 9:25:10 AM
```Lyle Fairfield schreef:
> Ceiling = -(Int(-d))

Wow! A quote from the Excel 3.0 manual ... ;-)

--
Paul

```
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4/13/2006 9:58:17 AM
```kaniest wrote:
> Lyle Fairfield schreef:
>
>>Ceiling = -(Int(-d))
>
>
> Wow! A quote from the Excel 3.0 manual ... ;-)

Everyone learns what they know from somewhere.
```
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rkc1870 (593)
4/13/2006 11:18:08 AM
```That's interesting to know. I got it from:

From:	 	Paul van Goudoever - view profile
Date:		Fri, Sep 18 1998 12:00 am
Email: 		"Paul van Goudoever" <pgoud...@sig.nl>
Groups: 		comp.databases.ms-access

This one handles reals as well:

Function RoundUp5(varNum As Variant) As Long
On Error Resume Next
If IsNumeric(varNum) Then
RoundUp5 = -Int(-varNum / 5) * 5
End If
End Function

Unfortuantely, Paul doesn't post here anymore.

```
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lylefairfield (1852)
4/13/2006 11:29:58 AM
```Lyle Fairfield
> Unfortuantely, Paul doesn't post here anymore.

Not as often as I used to but ...

Bye,
Paul

```
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4/13/2006 11:43:21 AM
```Did Excel 3.0 have VB(A) enabled?

```
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lylefairfield (1852)
4/13/2006 12:05:36 PM
```Lyle Fairfield:
> Did Excel 3.0 have VB(A) enabled?

IIRC it had some macro language ...
A co-worker gave me the wow-comment when he saw the posting.

```
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4/13/2006 12:13:50 PM
```Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant the smart Paul. Well, you could be Paul
VG, I suppose, as I've seen smart things posted by you perviously. If
you were Paul VG you would probably have noted over the years that I
have credited you with this function on several occasions, and forgiven
me for failing to do so in a quickie reponse late at night.

```
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lylefairfield (1852)
4/13/2006 12:43:01 PM
```I feel a pretty dumb right now, but I still think I hardly
deserve any credits for -(int(-x)). Maybe a tiny little
bit for first posting it in cdma.

```
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4/13/2006 1:22:22 PM
```I don't deserve as much credit as that. But it might help Bradley.

Assuming you are Paul VG you haven't posted much that's dumb here,
nothing that I have ever noted. If you have, it's compensated for by a
whole bunch of smart things you have posted.

So let's just forget this exchange and move forward.

```
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lylefairfield (1852)
4/13/2006 1:45:21 PM
```"Br@dley" <dontlookforme@google.com> wrote

> Ta. I guess my main question was WHY the
> Cint() rounds to the nearest even number?
> Just interested in the reasoning for imple-
> menting it that way.

It's called "Banker's Rounding" and it is what Microsoft chose to use, after
conferring with their customers.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

```
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bouncer (4168)
4/13/2006 11:18:04 PM

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Khartoum, Sudan: A Christian Sudanese woman sentenced to hang for apostasy has given birth in jail, a Western diplomat said on Tuesday.

Imams warn against radicalism to Aboriginal inmates converting to Islam
The prison system has enlisted the help of ASIO to crack down on radicalisation behind bars amid revelations that Aboriginals are converting ...

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Image: Trucks carrying logs make their way up a road in Jambi, Indonesia. A vast area of the Sumatran forest, and orangutan habitat, is being ...

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