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working with a tab control with no tabs in design view

I'm using a tab control in Access 2000, and the user requested to have 
buttons in the form header, instead of the built-in tabs (so that when they 
scroll down, they can still switch tabs). Now, this works fine. However, 
when I'm in Design View, I can't access the tabs without changing the tab 
control's Style back to Tabs. But I want to be able to place controls in 
that space at the top where the tabs used to be. But if I need to turn the 
tabs back on when I need to make design changes, then I can't do that. So 
the result is wasted space at the top of the tab control, because I have to 
toggle the tabs back on whenever I need to make design changes.

Is there a way to cycle through the tabs in a tab control in design view 
without the tabs being on? I can select the tab control, itself, by using 
the Object dropdown in the toolbar; but I can't get to tab 2, 3, etc., 
unless I turn the tabs back on. There must be a way to do this. How else 
would one work with it in Design View with the tabs off?

Thanks for any assistance. 


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9/22/2007 11:12:20 AM
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Phil Reynolds wrote:
> I'm using a tab control in Access 2000, and the user requested to have
> buttons in the form header, instead of the built-in tabs (so that
> when they scroll down, they can still switch tabs). Now, this works
> fine. However, when I'm in Design View, I can't access the tabs
> without changing the tab control's Style back to Tabs. But I want to
> be able to place controls in that space at the top where the tabs
> used to be. But if I need to turn the tabs back on when I need to
> make design changes, then I can't do that. So the result is wasted
> space at the top of the tab control, because I have to toggle the
> tabs back on whenever I need to make design changes.
> Is there a way to cycle through the tabs in a tab control in design
> view without the tabs being on? I can select the tab control, itself,
> by using the Object dropdown in the toolbar; but I can't get to tab
> 2, 3, etc., unless I turn the tabs back on. There must be a way to do
> this. How else would one work with it in Design View with the tabs
> off?
> Thanks for any assistance.

Each page of the TabControl is also listed in the Object dropdown in the 
toolbar.  When I use that style of TabPage I name them so that they are pushed 
to the top of the list to make it easier ("AAATabPage1" or similar).

-- 
Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
Email (as appropriate) to...
RBrandt   at   Hunter   dot   com


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rickbrandt2 (2458)
9/22/2007 11:32:04 AM
set the tab style to none in the onActivate event:

Me.TabCtl0.Style = 2

you will have the set the TOP property at the same time to account for the 
shift of the control without the tabs.

"Phil Reynolds" <philr2354@msn.com> wrote in message 
news:lN6Ji.5028$3Y1.5006@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
> I'm using a tab control in Access 2000, and the user requested to have 
> buttons in the form header, instead of the built-in tabs (so that when they 
> scroll down, they can still switch tabs). Now, this works fine. However, when 
> I'm in Design View, I can't access the tabs without changing the tab 
> control's Style back to Tabs. But I want to be able to place controls in that 
> space at the top where the tabs used to be. But if I need to turn the tabs 
> back on when I need to make design changes, then I can't do that. So the 
> result is wasted space at the top of the tab control, because I have to 
> toggle the tabs back on whenever I need to make design changes.
>
> Is there a way to cycle through the tabs in a tab control in design view 
> without the tabs being on? I can select the tab control, itself, by using the 
> Object dropdown in the toolbar; but I can't get to tab 2, 3, etc., unless I 
> turn the tabs back on. There must be a way to do this. How else would one 
> work with it in Design View with the tabs off?
>
> Thanks for any assistance.
> 


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MikeB
9/22/2007 11:32:33 AM
in addition to Rick's solution, you can choose any control from the Object
dropdown list, that is on a particular tabpage, and that will bring that
page "to the front".

hth


"Phil Reynolds" <philr2354@msn.com> wrote in message
news:lN6Ji.5028$3Y1.5006@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
> I'm using a tab control in Access 2000, and the user requested to have
> buttons in the form header, instead of the built-in tabs (so that when
they
> scroll down, they can still switch tabs). Now, this works fine. However,
> when I'm in Design View, I can't access the tabs without changing the tab
> control's Style back to Tabs. But I want to be able to place controls in
> that space at the top where the tabs used to be. But if I need to turn the
> tabs back on when I need to make design changes, then I can't do that. So
> the result is wasted space at the top of the tab control, because I have
to
> toggle the tabs back on whenever I need to make design changes.
>
> Is there a way to cycle through the tabs in a tab control in design view
> without the tabs being on? I can select the tab control, itself, by using
> the Object dropdown in the toolbar; but I can't get to tab 2, 3, etc.,
> unless I turn the tabs back on. There must be a way to do this. How else
> would one work with it in Design View with the tabs off?
>
> Thanks for any assistance.
>
>


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nospam8319 (412)
9/22/2007 2:11:55 PM
Ah cool! Thanks!

"Rick Brandt" <rickbrandt2@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:y27Ji.3707$ZA5.310@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Phil Reynolds wrote:
>> I'm using a tab control in Access 2000, and the user requested to have
>> buttons in the form header, instead of the built-in tabs (so that
>> when they scroll down, they can still switch tabs). Now, this works
>> fine. However, when I'm in Design View, I can't access the tabs
>> without changing the tab control's Style back to Tabs. But I want to
>> be able to place controls in that space at the top where the tabs
>> used to be. But if I need to turn the tabs back on when I need to
>> make design changes, then I can't do that. So the result is wasted
>> space at the top of the tab control, because I have to toggle the
>> tabs back on whenever I need to make design changes.
>> Is there a way to cycle through the tabs in a tab control in design
>> view without the tabs being on? I can select the tab control, itself,
>> by using the Object dropdown in the toolbar; but I can't get to tab
>> 2, 3, etc., unless I turn the tabs back on. There must be a way to do
>> this. How else would one work with it in Design View with the tabs
>> off?
>> Thanks for any assistance.
>
> Each page of the TabControl is also listed in the Object dropdown in the 
> toolbar.  When I use that style of TabPage I name them so that they are 
> pushed to the top of the list to make it easier ("AAATabPage1" or 
> similar).
>
> -- 
> Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
> Email (as appropriate) to...
> RBrandt   at   Hunter   dot   com
>
> 


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philr2354 (35)
9/24/2007 11:16:15 PM
Actually what I found was that the tab control, itself, stays in place 
relative to the controls outside of it; but there's an extra space *inside* 
the control at the top, where the tabs used to be. I want to use that extra 
space for the controls inside the tab control, which is why I couldn't 
toggle back and forth.

Thanks.

"MikeB" <m.byerleyATVerizonDottieNettie> wrote in message 
news:ucUrFxQ$HHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> set the tab style to none in the onActivate event:
>
> Me.TabCtl0.Style = 2
>
> you will have the set the TOP property at the same time to account for the 
> shift of the control without the tabs.
>
> "Phil Reynolds" <philr2354@msn.com> wrote in message 
> news:lN6Ji.5028$3Y1.5006@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
>> I'm using a tab control in Access 2000, and the user requested to have 
>> buttons in the form header, instead of the built-in tabs (so that when 
>> they scroll down, they can still switch tabs). Now, this works fine. 
>> However, when I'm in Design View, I can't access the tabs without 
>> changing the tab control's Style back to Tabs. But I want to be able to 
>> place controls in that space at the top where the tabs used to be. But if 
>> I need to turn the tabs back on when I need to make design changes, then 
>> I can't do that. So the result is wasted space at the top of the tab 
>> control, because I have to toggle the tabs back on whenever I need to 
>> make design changes.
>>
>> Is there a way to cycle through the tabs in a tab control in design view 
>> without the tabs being on? I can select the tab control, itself, by using 
>> the Object dropdown in the toolbar; but I can't get to tab 2, 3, etc., 
>> unless I turn the tabs back on. There must be a way to do this. How else 
>> would one work with it in Design View with the tabs off?
>>
>> Thanks for any assistance.
>>
>
> 


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philr2354 (35)
9/24/2007 11:17:35 PM
Hmm, interesting. OK, that's good to know too. Thanks!

"tina" <nospam@address.com> wrote in message 
news:Lo9Ji.122355$ax1.50912@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> in addition to Rick's solution, you can choose any control from the Object
> dropdown list, that is on a particular tabpage, and that will bring that
> page "to the front".
>
> hth
>
>
> "Phil Reynolds" <philr2354@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:lN6Ji.5028$3Y1.5006@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
>> I'm using a tab control in Access 2000, and the user requested to have
>> buttons in the form header, instead of the built-in tabs (so that when
> they
>> scroll down, they can still switch tabs). Now, this works fine. However,
>> when I'm in Design View, I can't access the tabs without changing the tab
>> control's Style back to Tabs. But I want to be able to place controls in
>> that space at the top where the tabs used to be. But if I need to turn 
>> the
>> tabs back on when I need to make design changes, then I can't do that. So
>> the result is wasted space at the top of the tab control, because I have
> to
>> toggle the tabs back on whenever I need to make design changes.
>>
>> Is there a way to cycle through the tabs in a tab control in design view
>> without the tabs being on? I can select the tab control, itself, by using
>> the Object dropdown in the toolbar; but I can't get to tab 2, 3, etc.,
>> unless I turn the tabs back on. There must be a way to do this. How else
>> would one work with it in Design View with the tabs off?
>>
>> Thanks for any assistance.
>>
>>
>
> 


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philr2354 (35)
9/24/2007 11:18:22 PM
you're welcome  :)


"Phil Reynolds" <philr2354@msn.com> wrote in message
news:jBXJi.660$hI7.113@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
> Hmm, interesting. OK, that's good to know too. Thanks!
>
> "tina" <nospam@address.com> wrote in message
> news:Lo9Ji.122355$ax1.50912@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > in addition to Rick's solution, you can choose any control from the
Object
> > dropdown list, that is on a particular tabpage, and that will bring that
> > page "to the front".
> >
> > hth
> >
> >
> > "Phil Reynolds" <philr2354@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:lN6Ji.5028$3Y1.5006@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
> >> I'm using a tab control in Access 2000, and the user requested to have
> >> buttons in the form header, instead of the built-in tabs (so that when
> > they
> >> scroll down, they can still switch tabs). Now, this works fine.
However,
> >> when I'm in Design View, I can't access the tabs without changing the
tab
> >> control's Style back to Tabs. But I want to be able to place controls
in
> >> that space at the top where the tabs used to be. But if I need to turn
> >> the
> >> tabs back on when I need to make design changes, then I can't do that.
So
> >> the result is wasted space at the top of the tab control, because I
have
> > to
> >> toggle the tabs back on whenever I need to make design changes.
> >>
> >> Is there a way to cycle through the tabs in a tab control in design
view
> >> without the tabs being on? I can select the tab control, itself, by
using
> >> the Object dropdown in the toolbar; but I can't get to tab 2, 3, etc.,
> >> unless I turn the tabs back on. There must be a way to do this. How
else
> >> would one work with it in Design View with the tabs off?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any assistance.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


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nospam8319 (412)
9/25/2007 2:45:32 AM
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Ok, I did it again... lost an edit field for a time while working with a tab panel. There is nothing, nothing, nothing more annoying when I work to try things in RB's form designer and have to watch the stinking control order! I have lost more controls in the last few months, working with pages and tabs, than I care to count. I have quite a few "suggestions" (namely incorporating the best ideas from other tools) as I work in RB. Give me a way to see which controls are on which tabs more quickly! This numbering method is frustrating. To test my notion that I wa...

Tabs on top of Tabs
This is probably a very stupid question but for the life of me I cannot figure it out. I have a form with tabbed pages and on one of the pages I want to put more tabbed pages. When I put the sub tabbed pages on the page I want it shows up on all pages. This is annoying. Thanks. Tyler wrote: > This is probably a very stupid question but for the life of me I > cannot figure it out. I have a form with tabbed pages and on one of > the pages I want to put more tabbed pages. When I put the sub tabbed > pages on the page I want it shows up on all pages. This is annoying. > Thanks. You cannot nest TabControls. There are two workarounds... 1) Use the Change event of the larger TabControl to hide the smaller TabControl except when the larger is on a certain page. Kind of a hassle in desigfn view, but in regular view it gives the apperance of a nexted TabControl. 2) Use a SubForm on one TabPage and place a TabControl on the subform. This works better in design view, but is a problem if you need controls on the nested subform to be bound to the same tables and record as the main form as this will cause write conflicts. -- Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP Email (as appropriate) to... RBrandt at Hunter dot com ...

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