funny telecom cartoon (telecom) [telecom]
For a bit of telecom humor, see:
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...Need a telecom attorney [Telecom]
I'm looking for an attorney in the Philadelphia area who specializes
in land easements. We have a telecom company looking to put some
antenna's, and I guess transmitters on our property and want someone
to review the agreements. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
***** Moderator's Note *****
Michael, you're a very wise man.
IANAL, and I'm sure the readers will offer suggestions, but let me add
these suggestions to get you started:
* How many antennas? How man transmitters? (It's NOT a one-to-one relationship!)
* For _their_ radios only, or for everyone's radios? Be _very_ careful here:
there are a lot of FCC and other rules that override contracts, and you
have _got_ to get a lawyer who knows about them. The contract might say
it's only for "Company A", but then you might see antennas go up for
companies B, C, and D, and Company A will just shrug their shoulders and
say "The FCC made us do it". If your contract doesn't cover this, you
may find out that, for practical purposes, you've sold your land to
company A's tower leasing subsidiary.
* Will there be other services on the pole? Don't take any carp about this:
you're entitled to be paid for _every_ transmitter and _every_ antenna,
no matter how blandly the tellco asures you it's "just for control" or
"that's only a spare".
* Taxes? Who pays whe...Cut Your Telecom Bills [telecom]
There is a good article called "Cut your telecom bills" in the May,
2011 issue of Consumer Reports magazine.
There are several parts of it that caught my eye right away: a section
titled "Some fiber really isn't", covering some of the physical-layer
issues we've been discussing here, and a section on the "Ooma" VoIP
service, plus a section on "The benefits of bundling and bargaining".
I'm curious what the Digest's readers think about the article.
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Bill Horne wrote:
> There is a good article called "Cut your telecom bills" in the May,
> 2011 issue of Consumer Reports magazine.
> There are several parts of it that caught my eye right away: a section
> titled "Some fiber really isn't", covering some of the physical-layer
> issues we've been discussing here, and a section on the "Ooma" VoIP
> service, plus a section on "The benefits of bundling and bargaining".
> I'm curious what the Digest's readers think about the article.
The glaring omission for me was their failure to mention how robust and
reliable E911 is with a wireline carrier, and how 911 wireless or 911
Voip can be problematic at a residence.
...[Telecom] Series on Telecom security
Bruce Schneier, who coined the term "Security Theater" and is the
author of "Applied Cryptography", publishes a newletter called
CRYPTO-GRAM, which I recommend to those who are interested in both
cryptography and security issues.
The January 15, 2010, issue includes these links:
'A very good four-part series:
"Risk and Security in the Telecommunications Industry." '
The series discusses the issues of survivability and resilience tha...Telecom News in TELECOM Digest
No offense, but I read other sources of news, and I see the stuff
below in several places where it's accurately sorted by topic. I read
Telecom Digest to get *telecom* related information, not the latest
Dish TV "special" or what Amazon is doing this week. Just a simple
> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:10:52 -0500
> From: Monty Solomon <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Subject: DISH Network $999 HDTV Promo
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And no offense taken. Monty Solomon is
a sort of e...[telecom] Harassed by robocalls [Telecom]
On Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:20 PM "Steven Lichter" <email@example.com> wrote:
[ snip ]
> the Golf Course in Lon Beach. What was happening was when the hunt
> group was busy the next call would go to another hunt group, which had
> out number on it; I would tell them they reached the wrong number, most
> were understanding and would try again. I passed the problem to our
> customer service office and they contacted the golf course and told
> them that they needed to add more numbers to their hunt group because
> they were getting more calls they it could handle. For a reason I
> never understood they would not upgrade.
Because it would cost more money.
> ***** Moderator's Note *****
> Steven, I'm confused: why didn't someone just break the hunt so the
> calls didn't go to your number? Couldn't SxS do that?
> Bill Horne
> Temporary Moderator
Stories like this made me understand why people hated the telco.
As mentioned in other posts, it would be a bit of work for someone at
the telco to make the service operate like it was supposed to.
I worked for a telco for 32 years.
Wes Leatherock wrote:
> Stories like this made me understand why people hated the telco.
> As mentioned in other posts, it would be a bit of work for someone at...[telecom]recorded telecom messages
an archive of recorded messages:
Dave Garland wrote:
> an archive of recorded messages:
heh heh, those have some humor potential!
Rick Merrill wrote:
>Dave Garland wrote:
>>an archive of recorded messages:
>heh heh, those have some humor potential!
Friend of mine had a very realistic sounding ring tone with perfect SIT
(tone) sequence and "We're sorry due to call overload, our system ...Telecom in High Art [telecom]
I'm just listening to a classical radio program - this one featuring
the modern and rather hard-to-take composer Elliott Carter. He set
three of Robert Frost's poems to music, one of them being "The Line
Here come the line-gang pioneering by.
They throw a forest down less cut than broken.
They plant dead trees for living, and the dead
They string together with a living thread.
They string an instrument against the sky
Wherein words whether beaten out or spoken
Will run as hushed as when they were a thought
But in no hush they string it: they go past
With ...Verizon FIOS (telecom) [telecom]
This was originally posted to comp.dcom.telecom.tech in error, it was
intended for cdt, so reposting to proper place with some followup
During the recent FIOS discussion, I had nothing to add, so I didn't.
Its been fine since it was installed 2+ years ago.
Just recently, I had some issues, and I wanted to pass along what I
encountered for the benefit of the group.
At first, both wired and wireless went dead. A power cycle fixed it,
and the wired connections had no furthur problems. The wireless was
not working. The first time or 2 the Verizon "In Home Agent" fixed it
but then it became intermittant and Agent could do nothing. [I] found
a bug in their online diagnostics and a related bug in Agent. The
online diagnostic was reading my userid and passphrase, spelling it
out phonetically. My passphrase is several words with spaces between
the words, and the diagnostic ignored the spaces. Later, Agent asked
me for the passphrase and wouldn't allow me to enter the spaces.
Later, I called FIOS tech support and reported both bugs. I then
described the problems and asked what would it take to get a new
modem. He responded that he would send me one and it arrived the next
day. Aparantly they have decided that the modem I have is obselete
because they don't want it back. I will trash it after resetting it
to clear the passphrase. It will be installed tomorrow and I will
follow up if anything unusual happens.
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variety of phone equipment including telephone systems, transmission, swi...The perfect Telecom conversation piece [telecom]
Here's a perfect conversation piece for those awkward social
situations when someone asks what you did for a living in the dark
ages before computers: http://tinyurl.com/ygltn8r .
If you wind up buying it, feel free to invite me over to hook it up. ;-)
Of course, if you _do_ want to hook something up to a computer for
demonstrations, something more "modern" may be in order, so here's
some info on other equipment that is available for pickup in New
Jersey. (This is from the "Greenkeys" mailing list).
The seller's email is firstname.lastname@example.org
There are some pictures here:
E. William Horne
William Warren Consulting
Computer & Network Installations, Security, and Service
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>Here's a perfect conversation piece for those awkward social
>situations when someone asks what you did for a living in the dark
>ages before computers
$1200.00 !!!!! ?????
You gotta be $#!+ting me !! ;-(
We used those in the USCG, ca. early 1970s and they were considered
old back then !!
That's an old Baudot model with a 103 modem.
In the mid 1980s, the going street price for those was the labor
necessary to haul it away.
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...Re: [telecom] Cellphones and driving [Telecom]
In a message dated 7/3/2009 9:15:12 AM Central Daylight Time,
> I think a first-rate hands free system, although of some
> distraction, is far, far less hazardous than holding a phone to
Repeated studies have shown their is no difference in the
distraction caused by cellphone to your ear or hands-free. It's
apparently the conversation, not the holding of the phone to your ear.
> In a message dated 7/3/2009 9:15:12 AM Central Daylight Time,
> email@example.com writes:
>>I think a first-rate hands free system, although of some
>>distraction, is far, far less hazardous than holding a phone to
> Repeated studies have shown their is no difference in the
> distraction caused by cellphone to your ear or hands-free. It's
> apparently the conversation, not the holding of the phone to your ear.
> Wes Leatherock
Sometimes studies aren't all they claim to be. The California
legislature certainly perceived a difference.
> Repeated studies have shown their is no difference in the
> distraction caused by cellphone to your ear or hands-free. It's
> apparently the conversation, not the holding of the phone to your
> ear....Digital bonanza for telecoms historians [telecom]
Digital bonanza for telecoms historians
Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:06
IT Industry - Development
The UK's National Archive is to digitise 165 years worth of British
Telecom's and its predecessors' historical documents.
The project is a collaboration between Coventry University, BT
Heritage and The National Archive and aims to catalogue, digitise and
develop a searchable online archive of almost half a million
photographs, images, documents and correspondence. It is being funded
with a grant from JISC (formerly the UK's Joint Information Systems
According to JISC: "The BT Archive is held, with some limited public
access, in central London and is by any standard a collection of
national and international importance, recognised by UNESCO�?�
"The digitisation of a significant proportion of the Archive will
allow teachers, students, researchers and the general public in the UK
and overseas to gain easier access to our scientific and cultural
telecommunications heritage; enabling them to utilise the archive for
studies and leisure from anywhere in the world. Digitisation of the
Archives will also ensure the continued preservation of the
collections in digital as well as analogue format."
The project includes research work around product and graphic design,
language development and problem-b...Telecom Digest archives questions [TELECOM]
I had a discussion tonight with Bill about our archives. As most of
you are aware we have long maintained our own set of archives here:
http://massis.lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives/. This forum started in
1981 when Sergey and Larry were doing whatever 8 year-olds did in 1981
and Google Groups did not exist. If we wanted an archive we had to do
it ourselves. I can't speak for everyone, but going back and reading
the old archives has been like a trip down memory lane. I remember
when we had The Phone Company and would wait until 11 PM to call our
grandparents to save on toll charges. Comparing 1981 to 2009 is
A couple of years ago I made the archives available in mbox
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbox) because I wanted them in that
format to facilitate my walk down memory lane. Since I had already
done the work, sharing it was the obvious next step.
Since that time Pat fell ill and since the exercise to put the digest
in mbox was more of a rearview mirror and I didn't do it going
forward. Here are our two questions:
1. Should we continue to maintain our own archives or should we point
people to http://groups.google.com/group/comp.dcom.telecom ?
2. Is there any interest in making the current and future archives
available in mbox?
I am going to defer question #1 to Bill. I have no strong opinions
either way. On #2, as I told Bill, if even one person wants the
archives available in the highly portable mbox ...telna / 3U Telecom outage [Telecom]
The following is a email I just received from 3U Telecom, now "telna",
concerning a power outage in their long distance service over the
preceding day or so (which meant we could send and receive local calls,
but long distance calling just seemed to go nowhere).
I'm posting it here because of its potential technical interest, but
also because its prompt, helpful and informative content seems to be in
sharp contrast to the communications difficulties in dealing with other
telecom companies that are often reported in this group.
Please accept our apologies for the outage we experienced on our network
that lasted most of yesterday, Sunday March 30th.
A power surge caused an equipment to fail at our New York POP, which
houses most of the infrastructure used to provide our retail services in
USA, and spare equipments also failed. We immediately ordered
replacement parts to be delivered via air, but due to bad weather
conditions in New York, this shipment was delayed. Service could only be
restored late Sunday evening. All services are functioning normally at
We want to assure you that this type of prolonged outage on our network
remains exceptional in the history of our company, and that all measures
are being taken to prevent this chain of events from occurring again.
Also, the outage was in no way related to the unfortunate timing of
launch of our new websit...Re: [telecom] GSM-only interference [Telecom]
In a message dated 8/7/2009 2:13:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
> But the finger is pointing at GSM as the culprit. Though I realize
> the GSM interference isn't a life-threatening situation (hmmm, what
> about being in a hospital?), I thought consumer appliances are not
> supposed to be causing such interference.
I was in the hospital a few months ago and using my AT&T phone. So
were many of my visitors. Others I have no idea what carrier/system
they were using but I know some of them were ATM. Nurses and others
called and answered calls all over the place.
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:46:10 -0400 (EDT), Wesrock@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 8/7/2009 2:13:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
>> But the finger is pointing at GSM as the culprit. Though I realize
>> the GSM interference isn't a life-threatening situation (hmmm, what
>> about being in a hospital?), I thought consumer appliances are not
>> supposed to be causing such interference.
>I was in the hospital a few months ago and using my AT&...Vodavi DHS-E TELECOM [telecom]
Anyone in here have any familiarity with the Vodavi DHS-E phone
system? I am having an issue that I can't seem to resolve.
The system originally had a Dispatch Voice Mail unit installed which
took a trip south. There a number of extensions that have the Message
Waiting Light flashing. With out the Dispatch I can't figure out how
to turn off the MWL and return the stations to normal.
Looking for a hint on how that can be done without the use of a bigger
...Telecom Digest Reader Survey [telecom]
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I spent quite a bit of time digging around for the instructions to
change my email address on this list. Yesterday, I found:
For whatever reason, this site made more sense to me than what I found
Hope this helps someone....
...[telecom] Enforcing state telecom law
From: John Mayson <email@example.com>
>On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Steven <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> And how are they going to enforce their state law from someone
>> spoofing who is in India or China?
> Simple. They aren't. This is yet another example of a useless piece
> of legislation pushed through because the people demand they "do
> something". I wonder how many in the state capitol even understood
> the technology they were attempting to regulate?
They are not going to be able to incarcerate anyone for violating this
law, but if someone wants to go to the trouble (and expense) of
pushing things on behalf of the recipients, the violation of the law,
if proved, could also be used as part of a civil suit against the
malefactors, who will have to provide a means for the recipient to
contact the callers.
Mississippi is a class-action defendant's nightmare; those juries love
to give away other people's money.
...Telecom challenge: Hurricane Irene [telecom]
Hurricane Irene is expected to hit the eastern US this weekend with
very heavy rains and high winds. Considerable flooding is expected.
Also expected are many power failures. This is because the ground is
already saturated from recent rain storms, the hurricane will add
considerable rain, and high winds will knock many trees into wires.
It is expected to take a few days to restore power.
It will be interesting to see how the telecom providers react to the
storm to keep service running in terms of landlines, cellular, and
Internet traffic. Will traditional landline central offices fail due
to flooding or lost power? Will downed utiltiy poles take down vital
communication lines as well? Will the various services be flooded
with more traffic than they can handle (as happened with cell phones
in the recent earthquake)? Will trunk lines that provide long
distance service, interconnect central offices and cell phone towers,
and provide Internet 'backbone' support fail?
(FWIW, I dug out an old transistor radio and got batteries for it,
just in case. My power isn't that reliable. I wish I could have a
backup generator for power but I live in an apt.)
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:01:36 -0700, Hancock4 wrote:
> (FWIW, I dug out an old transistor radio and got batteries for it, just in
> case. My power isn't that reliable. I wish I could have a backup
> generator for power but I live in an apt.)
Get one of those l...Telecom Digest Info file [telecom]
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States....Re: [telecom] When Texting Is Wrong [Telecom]
In a message dated 7/18/2009 9:44:10 AM Central Daylight Time,
> My feeling is that automation must make things better for the customer
> than they were before.
The usual result nowadays is that it is done to make things better for the
company, not the customer.