OT: Pan deletes taglines

Not on topic, but meaningful to me: I'm using Pan, I like it a lot. But sometimes it deletes a whole message, leaving me replying to nothing at all. I _think_ that it thinks that it's deleting the tagline, as this often happens when there's tagline-ish characters in the first line or two of the message I'm replying to. I've looked in the meager setup menus, and haven't found anything that looks like a flag to save taglines. Anyone know how to fix this? Or a better forum to try? -- www.wescottdesign.com

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:39:16 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote: > Not on topic, but meaningful to me: > > I'm using Pan, I like it a lot. But sometimes it deletes a whole > message, leaving me replying to nothing at all. I _think_ that it thinks > that it's deleting the tagline, as this often happens when there's > tagline-ish characters in the first line or two of the message I'm > replying to. > > I've looked in the meager setup menus, and haven't found anything that > looks like a flag to save taglines. > > Anyone know how to fix this? Or a better forum to try? alt.comp.software.newsreader Or try an older version of Pan as I do because I like it. I assume your using Linux and backward compatibility isn't a problem.

Tim Wescott wrote: > > Not on topic, but meaningful to me: > > I'm using Pan, I like it a lot. But sometimes it deletes a whole > message, leaving me replying to nothing at all. I _think_ that it > thinks that it's deleting the tagline, as this often happens when > there's tagline-ish characters in the first line or two of the > message I'm replying to. > > I've looked in the meager setup menus, and haven't found anything > that looks like a flag to save taglines. > > Anyone know how to fix this? Or a better forum to try? I don't know anything about Pan, but some newsreaders try to delete sigs (which is silly - let the user decide). Maybe Pan thinks it is finding a sig marker early? -- [mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net) [page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net> Try the download section.

Tim Wescott wrote: > Not on topic, but meaningful to me: > > I'm using Pan, I like it a lot. But sometimes it deletes a whole > message, leaving me replying to nothing at all. I _think_ that it thinks > that it's deleting the tagline, as this often happens when there's > tagline-ish characters in the first line or two of the message I'm > replying to. > > I've looked in the meager setup menus, and haven't found anything that > looks like a flag to save taglines. > > Anyone know how to fix this? Or a better forum to try? > Many newsreaders seem to do that, including Thunderbird. For me this happens whenever the news server does not immediately respond. Screen stays blank. Waiting a few minutes until it comes back fixes that and the quote text shows up. When I try to access another gourp right after a blank screen happened I often receive a server time-out message. After I switched to a new news provider this happens a lot less and shorter. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.

In article <4A400E70.1CE3764@yahoo.com>, cbfalconer@maineline.net wrote: >I don't know anything about Pan, but some newsreaders try to delete >sigs (which is silly - let the user decide). Maybe Pan thinks it >is finding a sig marker early? Actually, that's not silly, it's courteous. Normal practice is to not quote sigs when replying to a post. Newsreaders *should* delete sigs -- that's why there's a standard format for a sig delimiter (hyphen, hyphen, space, newline), so that a news client will know what part of the message it shouldn't quote.

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:39:16 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote: > Not on topic, but meaningful to me: > > I'm using Pan, I like it a lot. But sometimes it deletes a whole > message, leaving me replying to nothing at all. I _think_ that it thinks > that it's deleting the tagline, as this often happens when there's > tagline-ish characters in the first line or two of the message I'm > replying to. I don't know if this is what's happening for you, but if any part of the message is highlighted, the reply window will only contain the highlighted text; the rest of the message will be omitted. This can be useful to "pre-trim" the message, or if you want to cite the headers or signature.

Doug Miller wrote: > cbfalconer@maineline.net wrote: > >> I don't know anything about Pan, but some newsreaders try to delete >> sigs (which is silly - let the user decide). Maybe Pan thinks it >> is finding a sig marker early? > > Actually, that's not silly, it's courteous. Normal practice is to > not quote sigs when replying to a post. Newsreaders *should* delete > sigs -- that's why there's a standard format for a sig delimiter > (hyphen, hyphen, space, newline), so that a news client will know > what part of the message it shouldn't quote. That's on a reply (where the user should also have control). However some readers, as I understand it, just delete the sigs from the display so the user is never aware of it. -- [mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net) [page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net> Try the download section.

CBFalconer wrote: > Doug Miller wrote: >> cbfalconer@maineline.net wrote: >> >>> I don't know anything about Pan, but some newsreaders try to delete >>> sigs (which is silly - let the user decide). Maybe Pan thinks it >>> is finding a sig marker early? >> Actually, that's not silly, it's courteous. Normal practice is to >> not quote sigs when replying to a post. Newsreaders *should* delete >> sigs -- that's why there's a standard format for a sig delimiter >> (hyphen, hyphen, space, newline), so that a news client will know >> what part of the message it shouldn't quote. > > That's on a reply (where the user should also have control). > However some readers, as I understand it, just delete the sigs from > the display so the user is never aware of it. > Usually you can control such newsreader behavior via setup or options. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.