I need to make a document with both upside down and right side up fonts.. so
i'm looking for an upside down font to use...

can anyone help ?

thanks
rastus@removekooee.com.au

"rastus" <m_trikilis@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> I need to make a document with both upside down and right side up fonts.
> rastus@removekooee.com.au
                         ^^
No coincidence, I suspect?

Andreas Prilop wrote:
> 
> "rastus" <m_trikilis@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I need to make a document with both upside down and right side up fonts.
> > rastus@removekooee.com.au
>                          ^^
> No coincidence, I suspect?

:)  - Of course, he might have asked for a upside-down-under font,
instead.

What exactly are you trying to do?
It would be easy to create a font from an existing font with:
  a) Each individual letter flipped upside down (i.e., mirrored)
  or 
  b) Each letter rotated 180�

If you're trying to get text that's readable in either direction,
neither of these will help you unless you type everything sdrawkcab like
that, and even then, the kerning would be all screwed up without a lot
of extra effort in modifying the font.  

If you want to be able to type normally and have the result be upside
down,  you'd need not only an upside-down font but also the ability to
enter right-to-left text. A Hebrew or Arabic language feature or
specialized third party utility. I don't know whether such facilities
can be mixed on a single page.

There are a couple of fonts already done in the rotated style. (One by
Robert Schenk, a Courier-style creatively named "UpdsideDown", and one
that somebody created from Arial, ArialUSD).

If you ask in alt.binaries.fonts, they would be posted, or someone might
offer to flip/mirror/rotate whatever font you'd like.

 - Character

rastus wrote:
> 
> I need to make a document with both upside down and right side up fonts.. so
> i'm looking for an upside down font to use...
> 
> can anyone help ?
> 
> thanks
> rastus@removekooee.com.au

Depending on what you're using to "make a document", you could just use
a text-box and turn it upside-down. MS Word can do it, LotusWordPro can,
any page-program (Pagemaker, Indesign, MSPublisher, etc.)or graphic
program (Corel Draw, Adobe Illustrator, SmartDraw, etc.) can do that
easily.

rastus wrote:
> 
> I need to make a document with both upside down and right side up fonts.. so
> i'm looking for an upside down font to use...
> 
> can anyone help ?
> 
> thanks
> rastus@removekooee.com.au

Thanks for this post also Character...

I've never really mucked around with fonts before...
managed to get a font upside down.. i saved it as a different name, and then
loaded it onto another pc.
It sill concidered itself to be the same name  .. so i assume that the font
file has the name imbedded within it.

I gave up and thought there must be a few upsidedown fonts around.

thanks again,
Mike


Character <Char@cters.inverted> wrote in message
news:3F352DA5.F25A26D9@cters.inverted...
> What exactly are you trying to do?
> It would be easy to create a font from an existing font with:
>   a) Each individual letter flipped upside down (i.e., mirrored)
>   or
>   b) Each letter rotated 180�
>
> If you're trying to get text that's readable in either direction,
> neither of these will help you unless you type everything sdrawkcab like
> that, and even then, the kerning would be all screwed up without a lot
> of extra effort in modifying the font.
>
> If you want to be able to type normally and have the result be upside
> down,  you'd need not only an upside-down font but also the ability to
> enter right-to-left text. A Hebrew or Arabic language feature or
> specialized third party utility. I don't know whether such facilities
> can be mixed on a single page.
>
> There are a couple of fonts already done in the rotated style. (One by
> Robert Schenk, a Courier-style creatively named "UpdsideDown", and one
> that somebody created from Arial, ArialUSD).
>
> If you ask in alt.binaries.fonts, they would be posted, or someone might
> offer to flip/mirror/rotate whatever font you'd like.
>
>  - Character
>
> rastus wrote:
> >
> > I need to make a document with both upside down and right side up
fonts.. so
> > i'm looking for an upside down font to use...
> >
> > can anyone help ?
> >
> > thanks
> > rastus@removekooee.com.au

I posted the 2 upside down fonts in alt.binaries.fonts
I posted two (a courier-style and a rotate Arial) in alt.binaries.fonts
with a subject line:
Attn: Rastus Upside-Down fonts (2xttf)
Again, if you just say what font you're using, someone in a.b.f. would
certainly create a rotated version for you. (I'd do it, but unless it's
today I'll be out of contact for about 10 days.)

By CD-labels do you mean CD jewel-case inserts or what goes directly on
the CD?
Either way, I'd think it would be easier to export your ouput to some
other program that can work with re-formatting.

And yes, the font name (and lots of other data) is embedded in the font
file. The file name isn't relevant. The font names have to be unique or
else they'll conflict.

 - Character

dumbo wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this post also Character...
> 
> I've never really mucked around with fonts before...
> managed to get a font upside down.. i saved it as a different name, and then
> loaded it onto another pc.
> It sill concidered itself to be the same name  .. so i assume that the font
> file has the name imbedded within it.
> 
> I gave up and thought there must be a few upsidedown fonts around.
> 
> thanks again,
> Mike
> 
> Character <Char@cters.inverted> wrote in message
> news:3F352DA5.F25A26D9@cters.inverted...
> > What exactly are you trying to do?
> > It would be easy to create a font from an existing font with:
> >   a) Each individual letter flipped upside down (i.e., mirrored)
> >   or
> >   b) Each letter rotated 180�
> >
> > If you're trying to get text that's readable in either direction,
> > neither of these will help you unless you type everything sdrawkcab like
> > that, and even then, the kerning would be all screwed up without a lot
> > of extra effort in modifying the font.
> >
> > If you want to be able to type normally and have the result be upside
> > down,  you'd need not only an upside-down font but also the ability to
> > enter right-to-left text. A Hebrew or Arabic language feature or
> > specialized third party utility. I don't know whether such facilities
> > can be mixed on a single page.
> >
> > There are a couple of fonts already done in the rotated style. (One by
> > Robert Schenk, a Courier-style creatively named "UpdsideDown", and one
> > that somebody created from Arial, ArialUSD).
> >
> > If you ask in alt.binaries.fonts, they would be posted, or someone might
> > offer to flip/mirror/rotate whatever font you'd like.
> >
> >  - Character
> >
> > rastus wrote:
> > >
> > > I need to make a document with both upside down and right side up
> fonts.. so
> > > i'm looking for an upside down font to use...
> > >
> > > can anyone help ?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > rastus@removekooee.com.au