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Hi!
Anybody knows where can I find the font used on road signs in former USSR?


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Reply jasiu 11/16/2006 8:04:35 PM

"jasiu" <wojtynski@malpa.poczta.fm> wrote...
> Hi!
> Anybody knows where can I find the font used on road signs in former =
USSR?

Probably on road signs in the former USSR.

Andreas
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Reply iso 11/16/2006 9:30:30 PM


Most excellent answer, Comrade Andreas...You have been for Comrade Jasiu 
a most great help like bosoms on a bull. Maybe Kazakhstan in that very 
fine Russian suburban area, they might have a plethora of old road
signs in the woods that the gypsies have borrowed..Juicy perhaps maybe
should make deal with local crack-ho...maybe trade goat for font....
with quality type help like us, joose will go long way to support both 
socks and local economy...please go out not and hang self joozy, Commie
Andreas only be stand-down comedian. He really a nice fellow...no hurts
children and sex toys.
**************************************

Andreas H�feld wrote:

> "jasiu" <wojtynski@malpa.poczta.fm> wrote...
> 
>>Hi!
>>Anybody knows where can I find the font used on road signs in former USSR?
> 
> 
> Probably on road signs in the former USSR.
> 
> Andreas
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Reply reefer 11/17/2006 1:19:42 AM

So you're saying you already saw _Borat_, right?


reefer wrote:
> Most excellent answer, Comrade Andreas...You have been for Comrade Jasiu 
> a most great help like bosoms on a bull. Maybe Kazakhstan in that very 
> fine Russian suburban area, they might have a plethora of old road
> signs in the woods that the gypsies have borrowed..Juicy perhaps maybe
> should make deal with local crack-ho...maybe trade goat for font....
> with quality type help like us, joose will go long way to support both 
> socks and local economy...please go out not and hang self joozy, Commie
> Andreas only be stand-down comedian. He really a nice fellow...no hurts
> children and sex toys.
> **************************************
> 
> Andreas H�feld wrote:
> 
>> "jasiu" <wojtynski@malpa.poczta.fm> wrote...
>>
>>> Hi!
>>> Anybody knows where can I find the font used on road signs in former 
>>> USSR?
>>
>>
>> Probably on road signs in the former USSR.
>>
>> Andreas
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Reply Dick 11/17/2006 1:28:19 AM

jasiu wrote:
> Hi!
> Anybody knows where can I find the font used on road signs in former USSR?

Grazhdanskii shrift? No, just kidding.

Seriously, there's Prospekt from Hoefler & Frere-Jones. You might also
look at FF DIN from Fontshop and URW Transport. It's probably not going
to be those capitalist running dog fonts Interstate, Highway Gothic, or
Clearview.

Prospekt:   http://www.typography.com/catalog/numbers/more10.html
FF DIN:     http://www.fontshop.com
Transport:  http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/urw/transport

However, the first step to finding a font is identifying it. Can you
point to any pictures? For instance, is this what you had in mind?

http://www.inline.spb.ru/report/inru2002/d6/P1010214.jpg

Also, you can go to Paratype (http://www.paratype.com), which publishes
fonts from Russian foundries like Polygraphmash and SPSL, and browse
their fonts or contact them directly.

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Reply Captain 11/17/2006 4:14:09 AM

jasiu wrote:
> Hi!
> Anybody knows where can I find the font used on road signs in former USSR?

I forgot to mention that the Russian Federal Highway Agency is at
http://www.rosavtodor.ru. Good luck with that ... do you know the
passage in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy about recreational
impossibilities?

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Reply Captain 11/17/2006 4:45:10 AM

> Most excellent answer, Comrade Andreas...You have been for Comrade Jasiu
> a most great help like bosoms on a bull. Maybe Kazakhstan in that very

Citizen Andreas is probably about right although but the explanation did not get through the Iron Curtain.

There may be a typeface (inside a modern font) that is made after a russian design. But it is certain that no computer font was used at that time in USSR. It well may be that the signs are painted by using stencils.

I may be a smartass but typeface is the design and font is the vessel containing a typeface. It could be a computer file but it can be a case full of metal type too, or even a set of russian stencils.

Jukka
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Reply Armadillo 11/17/2006 4:37:44 PM

Captain Grunion wrote:

> However, the first step to finding a font is identifying it. Can you
> point to any pictures? For instance, is this what you had in mind?
> 
> http://www.inline.spb.ru/report/inru2002/d6/P1010214.jpg

Saturday morning, and and they're wondering where they parted
company with the rest of Moscow's Friday night skate-in
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Reply phil 11/17/2006 7:33:07 PM

Armadillo wrote:
> > Most excellent answer, Comrade Andreas...You have been for Comrade Jasiu
> > a most great help like bosoms on a bull. Maybe Kazakhstan in that very
>
> Citizen Andreas is probably about right although but the explanation did not get through the Iron Curtain.
>
> There may be a typeface (inside a modern font) that is made after a russian design. But it is certain that no computer font was used at that time in USSR. It well may be that the signs are painted by using stencils.
>
> I may be a smartass but typeface is the design and font is the vessel containing a typeface. It could be a computer file but it can be a case full of metal type too, or even a set of russian stencils.
>
> Jukka

I'm not trying to start an argument here; I'm genuinely curious: why is
it certain that no computer fonts were used in the USSR? (I'm assuming
this means before 1990 or 1991, since jasiu didn't give a date.) Surely
they had computers, and even if they couldn't make digital fonts, the
KGB could have gotten them from the West as part of their technology
espionage efforts.

(OK, the KGB remark was somewhat sarcastic.)

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Reply Captain 11/18/2006 3:43:55 AM

>> There may be a typeface (inside a modern font) that is made after a  
>> russian design. But it is certain that no computer font was used at  
>> that time in USSR. It well may be that the signs are painted by using  
>> stencils.
>>
>> I may be a smartass but typeface is the design and font is the vessel  
>> containing a typeface. It could be a computer file but it can be a case  
>> full of metal type too, or even a set of russian stencils.
>>
>> Jukka
>
> I'm not trying to start an argument here; I'm genuinely curious: why is
> it certain that no computer fonts were used in the USSR? (I'm assuming
> this means before 1990 or 1991, since jasiu didn't give a date.) Surely
> they had computers, and even if they couldn't make digital fonts, the
> KGB could have gotten them from the West as part of their technology
> espionage efforts.

OK, computers were used, of course, but I doubt that they were used in  
making road signs. In the last years of USSR they could not afford to  
maintain even space programs and the army. So they probably did not invest  
in new technology for making road signs.

Jukka
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Reply Armadillo 11/18/2006 12:28:25 PM

"reefer" <xyznospam@aol.com> wrote ...
> Most excellent answer, Comrade Andreas...You have been for Comrade =
Jasiu=20
> a most great help ...

> Andreas H=F6feld wrote:
>=20
> > "jasiu" <wojtynski@malpa.poczta.fm> wrote...
> >=20
> >>Hi!
> >>Anybody knows where can I find the font used on road signs in former =
USSR?
> >=20
> >=20
> > Probably on road signs in the former USSR.

Ok, my boy, irony is obviously beyond your grasp and brightness
not your cup of tea. What I was trying to convey to your pal j. was
that except the older Russian readers here (anyone?) probably
no one will have a clue as to what road signs in the USSR (what
period, what region) will have looked like and no one will be=20
willing to do extended research for him on that. IOW the carbon-based
entity called jasiu would be well-advised to post a link to a sample
if it wants to have an off-chance for a useful reply.

Now that you have shown in the two postings you wrote in this
group that you are not able to contribute something useful
will you please have the kindness to creep back under the=20
stone where you came from? Thank you.

Andreas
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Reply iso 11/18/2006 8:28:56 PM

> There may be a typeface (inside a modern font) that is made after a  
> russian design. But it is certain that no computer font was used at that  
> time in USSR. It well may be that the signs are painted by using  
> stencils.

Now things are totally different in Russia. For example FontLab developer  
Yuri Yarmola is a russian.

http://www.myfonts.com/person/yarmola/yuri/

Jukka
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Reply Armadillo 11/18/2006 9:59:37 PM

Captain Grunion wrote:
[snip]
> I'm not trying to start an argument here; I'm genuinely curious: why
> is it certain that no computer fonts were used in the USSR? (I'm
> assuming this means before 1990 or 1991, since jasiu didn't give a
> date.) Surely they had computers, and even if they couldn't make
> digital fonts, 

Indeed they did, and in the USSR, TeX was in use since shortly after its
inception in its current form (>1982). Numerous Russian users created or
transcribed Cyrillic typefaces into computer formats, so computer fonts
most certainly were in use from around that date onwards.

But making road signs from them requires a digitally-controlled 
stencil-cutter, and although a TeX driver for such devices has been 
available for many years in the west, you'd have to ask the makers if 
their equipment (or equivalents) was available in the former USSR.

Probably simpler to get someone in Russia to ask their Ministry for 
Roads or whatever where they made their road signs at that date.

///Peter
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Reply Peter 11/19/2006 3:30:52 PM

"two postings"......where's the other one?!?!

You sly dog...are you keeping track of my postings??

I'm flattered!

Methinks the "J" man has done quite well with his request.
Perhaps it's time you came out of yourself and developed a
sense of humor. I was having fun with your response and my
comments contained no disrespect. Go to the movies...get a girlfriend...
have fun with your life. It's all just a game you know.

Love, Reefer
********************

Andreas H�feld wrote:
> "reefer" <xyznospam@aol.com> wrote ...
> 
>>Most excellent answer, Comrade Andreas...You have been for Comrade Jasiu 
>>a most great help ...
> 
> 
>>Andreas H�feld wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"jasiu" <wojtynski@malpa.poczta.fm> wrote...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi!
>>>>Anybody knows where can I find the font used on road signs in former USSR?
>>>
>>>
>>>Probably on road signs in the former USSR.
> 
> 
> Ok, my boy, irony is obviously beyond your grasp and brightness
> not your cup of tea. What I was trying to convey to your pal j. was
> that except the older Russian readers here (anyone?) probably
> no one will have a clue as to what road signs in the USSR (what
> period, what region) will have looked like and no one will be 
> willing to do extended research for him on that. IOW the carbon-based
> entity called jasiu would be well-advised to post a link to a sample
> if it wants to have an off-chance for a useful reply.
> 
> Now that you have shown in the two postings you wrote in this
> group that you are not able to contribute something useful
> will you please have the kindness to creep back under the 
> stone where you came from? Thank you.
> 
> Andreas
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Reply reefer 11/22/2006 6:16:16 AM

> Now things are totally different in Russia. For example FontLab developer
> Yuri Yarmola is a russian.

Wow;) what's so strange about the fact that Russians make fonts? I'm afraid 
some of the users have a slightly strange vision of ex-USSR countries...


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Reply jasiu 11/23/2006 6:54:27 PM

> http://www.inline.spb.ru/report/inru2002/d6/P1010214.jpg
>
exactly... 


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Reply jasiu 11/23/2006 6:56:05 PM

jasiu wrote:
> > http://www.inline.spb.ru/report/inru2002/d6/P1010214.jpg
> >
> exactly...

Paratype has a font called TextBook that's as close as I think you're
going to get. I have to agree with Andreas and Armadillo otherwise.

If TextBook isn't quite right, I suggest -- in addition to my previous
posts -- trying the type ID forum at typophile.com or the WhatTheFont
*Forum* (human assistance) at myfonts.com. I already tried cutting out
the sign area from the P1010214.jpg file and uploading it to
WhatTheFont and got nothing useful.

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Reply Captain 11/24/2006 7:45:46 AM

>> Now things are totally different in Russia. For example FontLab  
>> developer
>> Yuri Yarmola is a russian.
>
> Wow;) what's so strange about the fact that Russians make fonts? I'm  
> afraid
> some of the users have a slightly strange vision of ex-USSR countries...

We here in Finland have a special relation to USSR/Russia. After WWII in  
politics everyone avoided disturbing the Big Bear which often reached  
ridiculousness. Ordinary people, however, regarded russians as dumb, lazy,  
poor and unreliable. Quality of Russian goods was endless source of jokes  
like: "What is it that do not buzz and do not fit into your asshole?" The  
answer: "Russian made asshole buzzer"

Now things have changed. Economy in Russia is developing and they are  
beginning to produce quality products, like FontLab. Growing number of  
wealthy Russians visit Finland and it seems to be very difficult to cope  
for some Finns. ;)

Jukka
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Reply Armadillo 11/24/2006 9:06:51 AM

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