Let's all write Jasc and tell them to hire him back, whoever it was, 
before it's too late!

:-)

Uni

Gee, Soberon's poor spelling is rubbing off.

:-)

Uni


Uni wrote:
> Let's all write Jasc and tell them to hire him back, whoever it was, 
> before it's too late!
> 
> :-)
> 
> Uni

Sheesh,   there goes my "child's brain" again"!!!

 My new boss told me, "Bonehead, you're a half-wit!!!"   Then he corrected
himself and said, "No Uni, that would be a compliment for you. You're not
even a half wit!  Go crush more cans Bonehead".   He knows I like crushing
cans!  I'm happy when I get to crush cans.

Uni  aka Bonehead


"Uni" <no.email@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
news:41255103.8050801@no.email.invalid...
> Gee, Soberon's poor spelling is rubbing off.
>
> :-)
>
> Uni
>
>
> Uni wrote:
> > Let's all write Jasc and tell them to hire him back, whoever it was,
> > before it's too late!
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Uni
>

No it cant have been.  No I'm sure it can't have been you Uni can it?

Is your secret out?  It's all your fault

"Uni" <no.email@no.email.invalid> wrote in message 
news:phpVc.8179$ed6.4371@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...
> Sheesh,   there goes my "child's brain" again"!!!
>
> My new boss told me, "Bonehead, you're a half-wit!!!"   Then he corrected
> himself and said, "No Uni, that would be a compliment for you. You're not
> even a half wit!  Go crush more cans Bonehead".   He knows I like crushing
> cans!  I'm happy when I get to crush cans.
>
> Uni  aka Bonehead
>
>
> "Uni" <no.email@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
> news:41255103.8050801@no.email.invalid...
>> Gee, Soberon's poor spelling is rubbing off.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Uni
>>
>>
>> Uni wrote:
>> > Let's all write Jasc and tell them to hire him back, whoever it was,
>> > before it's too late!
>> >
>> > :-)
>> >
>> > Uni
>>
>
> 

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:42:37 +0100, "Bobby Dogg"
<Bobb_Dogg@hotmail.com> wrote:
>No it cant have been.  No I'm sure it can't have been you Uni can it?
>Is your secret out?  It's all your fault

Makes sense. The bitter, emotionally disturbed ex-employee seeking
revenge because he was fired for being inept.

Too late for what????



"Uni" <no.email@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
news:4125505F.7000307@no.email.invalid...
> Let's all write Jasc and tell them to hire him back, whoever it was,
> before it's too late!
>
> :-)
>
> Uni
>

Uni wrote:
> 
> Let's all write Jasc and tell them to hire him back, whoever it was,
> before it's too late!

It doesn't pay to be ignorant. Kris Zaklika never was and
never will be "Paint Shop Pro project manager" at Jasc.
Since PSP 7, the closest to a the sort of project manager
you might have in mind were first John Krenz and then
Harold Fagley. Prior to that I wasn't at the company so I
don't know who ran PSP.

> :-)
> 
> Uni

Kris Zaklika wrote:
> Uni wrote:
> 
>>Let's all write Jasc and tell them to hire him back, whoever it was,
>>before it's too late!
> 
> 
> It doesn't pay to be ignorant. Kris Zaklika never was and
> never will be "Paint Shop Pro project manager" at Jasc.
> Since PSP 7, the closest to a the sort of project manager
> you might have in mind were first John Krenz and then
> Harold Fagley. Prior to that I wasn't at the company so I
> don't know who ran PSP.

Kris, remember when you said you don't care what I say about PSP, in 
usenet, because it would have no affect on sales?

Seems Supernews felt different, when I uncovered a few odd things with 
their service, you can find here:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/uni_stuff/uni-page.html
What did they do? They terminated my account, because I told it like it is.

Not very professional, but immature.

Uni


> 
> 
>>:-)
>>
>>Uni

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:10:01 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
wrote:

>Kris Zaklika wrote:
>> Uni wrote:
>> 
>>>Let's all write Jasc and tell them to hire him back, whoever it was,
>>>before it's too late!
>> 
>> 
>> It doesn't pay to be ignorant. Kris Zaklika never was and
>> never will be "Paint Shop Pro project manager" at Jasc.
>
>
>Credits in PSP-7 reveal the real truth:

Indeed they do - it says, clear as day "Program Manager". Nothing
about project manager.

Jackie

-- 
< o \"/  Don't play cat and mouse with me!                         (
  ---@ )                                                         ()-()
< o /"\  Jackie Laderoute                  jfladeroute@shaw.ca   (o o)
*****************************************************************/\o/\

Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:10:01 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Kris Zaklika wrote:
>>
>>>Uni wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Let's all write Jasc and tell them to hire him back, whoever it was,
>>>>before it's too late!
>>>
>>>
>>>It doesn't pay to be ignorant. Kris Zaklika never was and
>>>never will be "Paint Shop Pro project manager" at Jasc.
>>
>>
>>Credits in PSP-7 reveal the real truth:
> 
> 
> Indeed they do - it says, clear as day "Program Manager". Nothing
> about project manager.

PSP is the "program" AKA Project AKA Application, etc., Jackie, and Kris 
is responsible for it, since he managed it, start to finish. Kris even 
admitted he came onboard after PSP-6. Maybe I'll install it to find out 
who was the Project Manager back then.

Uni


> 
> Jackie
> 



-- 
Got Milk? No, But Got super news!
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/supernews.html

Uni wrote:
> Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:10:01 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Kris Zaklika wrote:
>>>
>>>> Uni wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Let's all write Jasc and tell them to hire him back, whoever it was,
>>>>> before it's too late!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't pay to be ignorant. Kris Zaklika never was and
>>>> never will be "Paint Shop Pro project manager" at Jasc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Credits in PSP-7 reveal the real truth:
>>
>>
>>
>> Indeed they do - it says, clear as day "Program Manager". Nothing
>> about project manager.
> 
> 
> PSP is the "program" AKA Project AKA Application, etc., Jackie, and Kris 
> is responsible for it, since he managed it, start to finish. Kris even 
> admitted he came onboard after PSP-6. Maybe I'll install it to find out 
> who was the Project Manager back then.

There is a Bonnie Hoolenhorst listed as a "Product Manager", but as we 
both know, a Product Manager doesn't get involved with the "Program".
No other Project, Program or Product mangers listed, other than a 
"Release Manager".

Uni


> 
> Uni
> 
> 
>>
>> Jackie
>>

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:16:48 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
wrote:
>Jackie Laderoute wrote:
>
>>>Credits in PSP-7 reveal the real truth:
>> 
>> Indeed they do - it says, clear as day "Program Manager". Nothing
>> about project manager.
>
>PSP is the "program" AKA Project AKA Application, etc., Jackie, and Kris 
>is responsible for it, since he managed it, start to finish. Kris even 
>admitted he came onboard after PSP-6. Maybe I'll install it to find out 
>who was the Project Manager back then.

Nonsense. Kris was never the Project Manager for 7, nor 8, nor is he
for 9. No wonder you're so confused - you never did know what he does
(or doesn't do) for Jasc.

Nor, for that matter, are you even sure of what you are asking.
Quickly - what are the terms of reference for a Project Manager, a
Program Manager and a Release Manager? Don't bother asking - it's a
trick question - the definition depends on the circumstances, and
varies widely from company to company. Just because you think you know
what each should do (according to you), doesn't mean that other people
- or companies - are using the same definitions.

Did you really think Kris was the guiding force behind the complete
development of PSP 7 or 8? You obviously haven't followed his postings
well enough or really can't read for comprehension. I suspect the
latter, based on the balance of evidence.

Jackie

-- 
< o \"/  Don't play cat and mouse with me!                         (
  ---@ )                                                         ()-()
< o /"\  Jackie Laderoute                  jfladeroute@shaw.ca   (o o)
*****************************************************************/\o/\

Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:16:48 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>>Jackie Laderoute wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Credits in PSP-7 reveal the real truth:
>>>
>>>Indeed they do - it says, clear as day "Program Manager". Nothing
>>>about project manager.
>>
>>PSP is the "program" AKA Project AKA Application, etc., Jackie, and Kris 
>>is responsible for it, since he managed it, start to finish. Kris even 
>>admitted he came onboard after PSP-6. Maybe I'll install it to find out 
>>who was the Project Manager back then.
> 
> 
> Nonsense. Kris was never the Project Manager for 7, nor 8, nor is he
> for 9. No wonder you're so confused - you never did know what he does
> (or doesn't do) for Jasc.
> 
> Nor, for that matter, are you even sure of what you are asking.
> Quickly - what are the terms of reference for a Project Manager, a
> Program Manager and a Release Manager? Don't bother asking - it's a
> trick question - the definition depends on the circumstances, and
> varies widely from company to company. Just because you think you know
> what each should do (according to you), doesn't mean that other people
> - or companies - are using the same definitions.
> 
> Did you really think Kris was the guiding force behind the complete
> development of PSP 7 or 8?


I don't "think", I know he is. Kris is solely responsible for PSP. This 
is why you see him and him only posting for Jasc.

Notice how Kris dropped his long Jasc signature, when MAJOR problems 
occurred with Paint Shop Pro 8? Certainly, I would, too, if I didn't 
wish to be recognized as being instrumental in managing the 
Program/Application.

Uni




  You obviously haven't followed his postings
> well enough or really can't read for comprehension. I suspect the
> latter, based on the balance of evidence.
> 
> Jackie
> 



-- 
Got Milk? No, But Got super news!
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/supernews.html

Uni wrote:
> Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:16:48 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jackie Laderoute wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Credits in PSP-7 reveal the real truth:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Indeed they do - it says, clear as day "Program Manager". Nothing
>>>> about project manager.
>>>
>>>
>>> PSP is the "program" AKA Project AKA Application, etc., Jackie, and 
>>> Kris is responsible for it, since he managed it, start to finish. 
>>> Kris even admitted he came onboard after PSP-6. Maybe I'll install it 
>>> to find out who was the Project Manager back then.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nonsense. Kris was never the Project Manager for 7, nor 8, nor is he
>> for 9. No wonder you're so confused - you never did know what he does
>> (or doesn't do) for Jasc.
>>
>> Nor, for that matter, are you even sure of what you are asking.
>> Quickly - what are the terms of reference for a Project Manager, a
>> Program Manager and a Release Manager? Don't bother asking - it's a
>> trick question - the definition depends on the circumstances, and
>> varies widely from company to company. Just because you think you know
>> what each should do (according to you), doesn't mean that other people
>> - or companies - are using the same definitions.
>>
>> Did you really think Kris was the guiding force behind the complete
>> development of PSP 7 or 8?
> 
> 
> 
> I don't "think", I know he is. Kris is solely responsible for PSP. This 
> is why you see him and him only posting for Jasc.
> 
> Notice how Kris dropped his long Jasc signature, when MAJOR problems 
> occurred with Paint Shop Pro 8? Certainly, I would, too, if I didn't 
> wish to be recognized as being instrumental in managing the 
> Program/Application.
> 
> Uni

One last thing, Jackie, I have caught Kris lying through his teeth more 
than once. Remember when I asked if Gary Barton worked for Jasc and Kris 
denied it? But then some person calls Jasc support and magically a Gary 
B. answers the call.

Granted, it may be a coincidence, but with Gary Barton pumping out the 
PSP scripts, I think not.

Uni


> 
> 
> 
> 
>  You obviously haven't followed his postings
> 
>> well enough or really can't read for comprehension. I suspect the
>> latter, based on the balance of evidence.
>>
>> Jackie
>>
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Got Milk? No, But Got super news!
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/supernews.html

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:32:32 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
wrote:

>I don't "think", I know he is. Kris is solely responsible for PSP. This 
>is why you see him and him only posting for Jasc.
>
>Notice how Kris dropped his long Jasc signature, when MAJOR problems 
>occurred with Paint Shop Pro 8? Certainly, I would, too, if I didn't 
>wish to be recognized as being instrumental in managing the 
>Program/Application.

*Laugh* You truly are delusional.... on top of your inability to read
for comprehension.

Just makes your inane posturing all this time just that much more
amusing, though. I needed a good laugh today.

;-)

Jackie

-- 
< o \"/  Don't play cat and mouse with me!                         (
  ---@ )                                                         ()-()
< o /"\  Jackie Laderoute                  jfladeroute@shaw.ca   (o o)
*****************************************************************/\o/\

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:57:38 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
wrote:

>One last thing, Jackie, I have caught Kris lying through his teeth more 
>than once. Remember when I asked if Gary Barton worked for Jasc and Kris 
>denied it? But then some person calls Jasc support and magically a Gary 
>B. answers the call.

[Ow, make him stop. My sides are starting to hurt.] Just what colour
is the sky in your world, Uni? How many Gary B.s do you think there
could be in the world?

I know Gary Barton, and I know Jasc. Kris is not solely responsible
for any version of PSP, and Gary doesn't work for Jasc. But don't let
me burst any bubbles you're blowing - I can't wait to see the final
creation.

>Granted, it may be a coincidence, but with Gary Barton pumping out the 
>PSP scripts, I think not.

No, no - don't go talking sense now. I prefer you in fully neurotic
paranoid mode; you're much more amusing that way. Don't stop now -
I've written scripts and presets (some even shipped with 8) - I
suppose I work for Jasc now? And Angela, too - oh, and don't forget
Suz, she writes a pile of scripts. 

;-)

Jackie

-- 
< o \"/  Don't play cat and mouse with me!                         (
  ---@ )                                                         ()-()
< o /"\  Jackie Laderoute                  jfladeroute@shaw.ca   (o o)
*****************************************************************/\o/\

Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:32:32 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>I don't "think", I know he is. Kris is solely responsible for PSP. This 
>>is why you see him and him only posting for Jasc.
>>
>>Notice how Kris dropped his long Jasc signature, when MAJOR problems 
>>occurred with Paint Shop Pro 8? Certainly, I would, too, if I didn't 
>>wish to be recognized as being instrumental in managing the 
>>Program/Application.
> 
> 
> *Laugh* You truly are delusional.... on top of your inability to read
> for comprehension.
> 
> Just makes your inane posturing all this time just that much more
> amusing, though. I needed a good laugh today.

Here's one: Adobe thanks you for purchasing Photoshop CS. They knew you 
were delusional, believing Paint Shop Pro would get you anywhere.

:-)

Uni


> 
> ;-)
> 
> Jackie

"Jackie Laderoute" <jfladeroute@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:oobli0lpg1913tli5ufg2rncob54ktjvob@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:32:32 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >I don't "think", I know he is. Kris is solely responsible for PSP. This
> >is why you see him and him only posting for Jasc.
> >
> >Notice how Kris dropped his long Jasc signature, when MAJOR problems
> >occurred with Paint Shop Pro 8? Certainly, I would, too, if I didn't
> >wish to be recognized as being instrumental in managing the
> >Program/Application.
>
> *Laugh* You truly are delusional.... on top of your inability to read
> for comprehension.
>
> Just makes your inane posturing all this time just that much more
> amusing, though. I needed a good laugh today.
>
> ;-)
>
> Jackie
>
> -- 
> < o \"/  Don't play cat and mouse with me!                         (
>   ---@ )                                                         ()-()
> < o /"\  Jackie Laderoute                  jfladeroute@shaw.ca   (o o)
> *****************************************************************/\o/\


I guess I just don't make sense to anyone.   Everyone has me pegged for a
screwball and a fool.    Well, I'm glad I was able to give you a laugh
today.   I'll climb back into my hole for a while...but, not too long.


:-)

Uni aka Twerp, FakeArtistMike, MartinS, greyson.forkturner, TheOne, JP,
Bonehead, Danhiel

(fyi: Whenever I feel I'm losing ground w/ my fallacious arguments, I add a
new alias.  Btw, I've been adding quite a few lately!!!) -  Uni :-)

"Jackie Laderoute" <jfladeroute@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:hsbli0d74u721ocrduh0frbuira1mmkgps@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:57:38 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >One last thing, Jackie, I have caught Kris lying through his teeth more
> >than once. Remember when I asked if Gary Barton worked for Jasc and Kris
> >denied it? But then some person calls Jasc support and magically a Gary
> >B. answers the call.
>
> [Ow, make him stop. My sides are starting to hurt.] Just what colour
> is the sky in your world, Uni? How many Gary B.s do you think there
> could be in the world?
>
> I know Gary Barton, and I know Jasc. Kris is not solely responsible
> for any version of PSP, and Gary doesn't work for Jasc. But don't let
> me burst any bubbles you're blowing - I can't wait to see the final
> creation.
>
> >Granted, it may be a coincidence, but with Gary Barton pumping out the
> >PSP scripts, I think not.
>
> No, no - don't go talking sense now. I prefer you in fully neurotic
> paranoid mode; you're much more amusing that way. Don't stop now -
> I've written scripts and presets (some even shipped with 8) - I
> suppose I work for Jasc now? And Angela, too - oh, and don't forget
> Suz, she writes a pile of scripts.


Darnitall, I don't write too many scripts, but some of my stuff shipped with
8 too.  Oh, do I work for Jasc now too?   Funny, I didn't see you  in the
lunch room today, Jackie - did  Porter have you working OT at your desk?

It seems I've missed a few paydays, I better follow up with Accounting.


-- 
Sally Beacham
www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
Paint Shop Pro 8 Zero to Hero
Digital Scrapbooking (Course Technology)

Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:57:38 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>One last thing, Jackie, I have caught Kris lying through his teeth more 
>>than once. Remember when I asked if Gary Barton worked for Jasc and Kris 
>>denied it? But then some person calls Jasc support and magically a Gary 
>>B. answers the call.
> 
> 
> [Ow, make him stop. My sides are starting to hurt.] Just what colour
> is the sky in your world, Uni? How many Gary B.s do you think there
> could be in the world?
> 
> I know Gary Barton, and I know Jasc. Kris is not solely responsible
> for any version of PSP, and Gary doesn't work for Jasc.


Oh, you have an inside connection? Right, Jackie.

I love you patriotic Jasc/PSPers (you, Sally, Ron, JPK, Xalinai, etc.) 
followers who purchase Photoshop CS. But, hey, why not. At least Adobe 
can write their own scripting language, rather than borrow one found on 
some free web site.

*chuckles*

:-)

PSP-9 - Got 16 bit editing yet?

:-)

Cha-ching! - and then along came 10.

:-)

El Shaddy, the marketing genius.

:-)

Uni

  But don't let
> me burst any bubbles you're blowing - I can't wait to see the final
> creation.
> 
> 
>>Granted, it may be a coincidence, but with Gary Barton pumping out the 
>>PSP scripts, I think not.
> 
> 
> No, no - don't go talking sense now. I prefer you in fully neurotic
> paranoid mode; you're much more amusing that way. Don't stop now -
> I've written scripts and presets (some even shipped with 8) - I
> suppose I work for Jasc now? And Angela, too - oh, and don't forget
> Suz, she writes a pile of scripts. 
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Jackie
> 



-- 
Got Milk? No, But Got super news!
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/supernews.html

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:35:35 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
wrote:

>Oh, you have an inside connection? Right, Jackie.

"Inside connection" - oooh, how conspiratorial.

Sorry to disappoint, but I live within a day's drive of Minneapolis.
I've visited Jasc, emailed with many of the people I met there, and
quite enjoyed the visit.

I know several others who have done the same thing - it's not like
Jasc has anything to hide; I'd advise anyone who is planning a trip to
the area to email and see if they can get the quarter tour. (Of
course, not everyone gets to see the super sekrit underground bunker
^W ^W ^W. Never mind. Forget I said that.)

>I love you patriotic Jasc/PSPers (you, Sally, Ron, JPK, Xalinai, etc.) 
>followers who purchase Photoshop CS. But, hey, why not. At least Adobe 
>can write their own scripting language, rather than borrow one found on 
>some free web site.

Not just CS (btw, I own the whole suite, not just Photoshop), but
CorelDraw Suite, all the Serif products, Painter 8, PhotoImpact...
graphics is a hobby of mine, and - being gainfully employed - I can
afford to indulge it. I still use PSP for 90% of my stuff, though -
even with all the choices at my disposal. Of course, that rather
disproves the point you thought you were making, so feel free to
ignore it as you do most other rational points. ;-)

>*chuckles*

Not half, Uni. Actually, I have to thank you. I'm dealing with a real
wingnut in a work situation, and I think I needed the reminder that
things could be worse. Yup, he's a jerk of the first water, but
doesn't hold a candle to you.

Jackei

-- 
< o \"/  Don't play cat and mouse with me!                         (
  ---@ )                                                         ()-()
< o /"\  Jackie Laderoute                  jfladeroute@shaw.ca   (o o)
*****************************************************************/\o/\

"Jackie Laderoute" <jfladeroute@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:f1eli0d72m08ns6r0k8uaq6mvrqd5q4c1h@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:35:35 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >Oh, you have an inside connection? Right, Jackie.
>
> "Inside connection" - oooh, how conspiratorial.
>
> Sorry to disappoint, but I live within a day's drive of Minneapolis.
> I've visited Jasc, emailed with many of the people I met there, and
> quite enjoyed the visit.
>
> I know several others who have done the same thing - it's not like
> Jasc has anything to hide; I'd advise anyone who is planning a trip to
> the area to email and see if they can get the quarter tour. (Of
> course, not everyone gets to see the super sekrit underground bunker
> ^W ^W ^W. Never mind. Forget I said that.)
>
> >I love you patriotic Jasc/PSPers (you, Sally, Ron, JPK, Xalinai, etc.)
> >followers who purchase Photoshop CS. But, hey, why not. At least Adobe
> >can write their own scripting language, rather than borrow one found on
> >some free web site.
>
> Not just CS (btw, I own the whole suite, not just Photoshop), but
> CorelDraw Suite, all the Serif products, Painter 8, PhotoImpact...
> graphics is a hobby of mine, and - being gainfully employed - I can
> afford to indulge it. I still use PSP for 90% of my stuff, though -
> even with all the choices at my disposal. Of course, that rather
> disproves the point you thought you were making, so feel free to
> ignore it as you do most other rational points. ;-)
>
> >*chuckles*
>
> Not half, Uni. Actually, I have to thank you. I'm dealing with a real
> wingnut in a work situation, and I think I needed the reminder that
> things could be worse. Yup, he's a jerk of the first water, but
> doesn't hold a candle to you.
>
> Jackei
>
> -- 
> < o \"/  Don't play cat and mouse with me!                         (
>   ---@ )                                                         ()-()
> < o /"\  Jackie Laderoute                  jfladeroute@shaw.ca   (o o)
> *****************************************************************/\o/\


Okay Jackie, you have an edge on me.  You're gainfully employed, and I'm
not!   Well,   I'm just about half-employed, if you can call it that.  I got
a job recently crushing cans for 3 hours a day.    This way, I stay out of
mom's hair;  she's 82 years old  by the way.

You want some more *chuckles* or perhaps tears,  look what I do with my
2-bit editing:   http://tinyurl.com/4t7a6  -  You'll notice lots and lots of
my "uni" posts. You'll notice that I'm not patriotic, although quite
pathetic.

Meow...

:-)

Uni

Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:35:35 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Oh, you have an inside connection? Right, Jackie.
> 
> 
> "Inside connection" - oooh, how conspiratorial.
> 
> Sorry to disappoint, but I live within a day's drive of Minneapolis.
> I've visited Jasc, emailed with many of the people I met there, and
> quite enjoyed the visit.
> 
> I know several others who have done the same thing - it's not like
> Jasc has anything to hide; I'd advise anyone who is planning a trip to
> the area to email and see if they can get the quarter tour. (Of
> course, not everyone gets to see the super sekrit underground bunker
> ^W ^W ^W. Never mind. Forget I said that.)
> 
> 
>>I love you patriotic Jasc/PSPers (you, Sally, Ron, JPK, Xalinai, etc.) 
>>followers who purchase Photoshop CS. But, hey, why not. At least Adobe 
>>can write their own scripting language, rather than borrow one found on 
>>some free web site.
> 
> 
> Not just CS (btw, I own the whole suite, not just Photoshop), but
> CorelDraw Suite, all the Serif products, Painter 8, PhotoImpact...
> graphics is a hobby of mine, and - being gainfully employed - I can
> afford to indulge it. I still use PSP for 90% of my stuff, though -
> even with all the choices at my disposal. Of course, that rather
> disproves the point you thought you were making, so feel free to
> ignore it as you do most other rational points. ;-)
> 
> 
>>*chuckles*
> 
> 
> Not half, Uni. Actually, I have to thank you. I'm dealing with a real
> wingnut in a work situation, and I think I needed the reminder that
> things could be worse. Yup, he's a jerk of the first water, but
> doesn't hold a candle to you.
> 
> Jackei

Jackei, you must have the Toonboy Lacey syndrome, of misplaced characters.

:-)

Not a "porlbem", it will pass.

:-)

Uni

p.s. You think you called me some bad things here, you should read why 
Joske is writing, these days :)



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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:33:12 -0400, "Sally Beacham" <catintheh@t.com>
wrote:

>Darnitall, I don't write too many scripts, but some of my stuff shipped with
>8 too.  Oh, do I work for Jasc now too?   Funny, I didn't see you  in the
>lunch room today, Jackie - did  Porter have you working OT at your desk?
>
>It seems I've missed a few paydays, I better follow up with Accounting.

Me, too - but I think they're hiding in the super-sekrit bunker with
the Covert Operations guys. You know, the ones who maintain the
Uni-files and run Supernews in their spare time. ;-) (Dang, there's
nothing like a good conspiracy theory!)

But if you're going down there, bring a lunch. "You're in a maze of
twisty little passages, all alike...".

Jackie

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< o \"/  Don't play cat and mouse with me!                         (
  ---@ )                                                         ()-()
< o /"\  Jackie Laderoute                  jfladeroute@shaw.ca   (o o)
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Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:33:12 -0400, "Sally Beacham" <catintheh@t.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Darnitall, I don't write too many scripts, but some of my stuff shipped with
>>8 too.  Oh, do I work for Jasc now too?   Funny, I didn't see you  in the
>>lunch room today, Jackie - did  Porter have you working OT at your desk?
>>
>>It seems I've missed a few paydays, I better follow up with Accounting.
> 
> 
> Me, too - but I think they're hiding in the super-sekrit bunker with
> the Covert Operations guys. You know, the ones who maintain the
> Uni-files and run Supernews in their spare time. ;-) (Dang, there's
> nothing like a good conspiracy theory!)
> 
> But if you're going down there, bring a lunch. "You're in a maze of
> twisty little passages, all alike...".

So nice of you, Jackie, to lend a hand answering all the PSP questions 
here. What, there aren't any? After PSP-8, can't you understand why?

:-)

Kris tries hard, but he should have stuck with chemistry.

:-)

Uni


> 
> Jackie
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 04:14:13 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
wrote:

>So nice of you, Jackie, to lend a hand answering all the PSP questions 
>here. What, there aren't any? After PSP-8, can't you understand why?

Sure - http://forums.jasc.com/.

Might answer some of your suspicions about Gary and Kris, too - oh,
but that's right. You're persona non grata there. So sad.

;-)

Jackie

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>
> >I love you patriotic Jasc/PSPers (you, Sally, Ron, JPK, Xalinai, etc.)
> >followers who purchase Photoshop CS. But, hey, why not. At least Adobe
> >can write their own scripting language, rather than borrow one found on
> >some free web site.
>
> Not just CS (btw, I own the whole suite, not just Photoshop), but
> CorelDraw Suite, all the Serif products, Painter 8, PhotoImpact...
> graphics is a hobby of mine, and - being gainfully employed - I can
> afford to indulge it.
\o/\

Same here, except I also have a Macromedia suite and some other less
mainstream things--

You know, software is just a tool, not a religion or a marriage.
You don't commit heresy or adultery if you use more than one vendor's
products.

Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 04:14:13 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>So nice of you, Jackie, to lend a hand answering all the PSP questions 
>>here. What, there aren't any? After PSP-8, can't you understand why?
> 
> 
> Sure - http://forums.jasc.com/.

Funny you have to subscribe to Jasc forums, while Adobe's are free to 
view. Guess they don't need your e-mail address that badly.

:-)

> 
> Might answer some of your suspicions about Gary and Kris, too - oh,
> but that's right. You're persona non grata there. So sad.

See you in the Photoshop group, my dearest.

:-)

Uni





> 
> ;-)
> 
> Jackie

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 04:28:18 GMT, "JP Kabala" <jp@jpkabala.com> wrote:


>> >I love you patriotic Jasc/PSPers (you, Sally, Ron, JPK, Xalinai, etc.)
>> >followers who purchase Photoshop CS. But, hey, why not. At least Adobe
>> >can write their own scripting language, rather than borrow one found on
>> >some free web site.
>>
>> Not just CS (btw, I own the whole suite, not just Photoshop), but
>> CorelDraw Suite, all the Serif products, Painter 8, PhotoImpact...
>> graphics is a hobby of mine, and - being gainfully employed - I can
>> afford to indulge it.
>
>Same here, except I also have a Macromedia suite and some other less
>mainstream things--

Haven't dabbled in the Macromedia stuff yet, but I forgot a perennial
favourite, Xara X1.

I'm one of the few people I know who has more invested in software
than hardware. ;-)

>You know, software is just a tool, not a religion or a marriage.
>You don't commit heresy or adultery if you use more than one vendor's
>products.

For me, it's both more and less than a tool. I work mostly in a very
different area, so graphics is a pleasure and a distraction. It's
grown-up "play" in my life, so I like having novelty. I also like
learning new things, stretching the brain cells, and realizing just
how left-brained I am in the normal course of things. <g>

There are worse indulgences, and I don't have a closet full of shoes
to justify, so I refuse to feel guilty about it.  I guess I'm just
normally pangraphical at heart. (I was going to use "poly-graphical",
but that has a whole 'nother connotation.)

Jackie

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"Jackie Laderoute" <jfladeroute@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1rhli099p44nsod78o432anae14s477496@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 04:28:18 GMT, "JP Kabala" <jp@jpkabala.com> wrote:
>
>
> >> >I love you patriotic Jasc/PSPers (you, Sally, Ron, JPK, Xalinai, etc.)
> >> >followers who purchase Photoshop CS. But, hey, why not. At least Adobe
> >> >can write their own scripting language, rather than borrow one found
on
> >> >some free web site.
> >>
> >> Not just CS (btw, I own the whole suite, not just Photoshop), but
> >> CorelDraw Suite, all the Serif products, Painter 8, PhotoImpact...
> >> graphics is a hobby of mine, and - being gainfully employed - I can
> >> afford to indulge it.
> >
> >Same here, except I also have a Macromedia suite and some other less
> >mainstream things--
>
> Haven't dabbled in the Macromedia stuff yet, but I forgot a perennial
> favourite, Xara X1.

I'll see your Adobe, Corel and Macromedia and Xara X and raise you Digital
Image Pro, now THERE's a real hearty dish.  And of course PhotoDraw v.1 and
v.2, if you've got the kid it helps to have the parents, too.  ;-)))))).



>
> I'm one of the few people I know who has more invested in software
> than hardware. ;-)

Me me me me... well, I'm interested in hardware as long as it works the way
I want it to work, consistently.


-- 
Sally Beacham
www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
Paint Shop Pro 8 Zero to Hero
Digital Scrapbooking (Course Technology)


>
> >You know, software is just a tool, not a religion or a marriage.
> >You don't commit heresy or adultery if you use more than one vendor's
> >products.
>
> For me, it's both more and less than a tool. I work mostly in a very
> different area, so graphics is a pleasure and a distraction. It's
> grown-up "play" in my life, so I like having novelty. I also like
> learning new things, stretching the brain cells, and realizing just
> how left-brained I am in the normal course of things. <g>
>
> There are worse indulgences, and I don't have a closet full of shoes
> to justify, so I refuse to feel guilty about it.  I guess I'm just
> normally pangraphical at heart. (I was going to use "poly-graphical",
> but that has a whole 'nother connotation.)
>
> Jackie
>
> -- 
> < o \"/  Don't play cat and mouse with me!                         (
>   ---@ )                                                         ()-()
> < o /"\  Jackie Laderoute                  jfladeroute@shaw.ca   (o o)
> *****************************************************************/\o/\

Uni wrote:
[snip]

> I don't "think", I know he is. Kris is solely responsible for PSP. This
> is why you see him and him only posting for Jasc.

It doesn't pay to be ignorant. Repeating a falsehood multiple
times doesn't make it true. There is no obligation by anyone
from any software company to post to a Usenet group. Next
you'll be telling me that Chris Cox manages PS development
because he posts to Usenet occasionally, and Mark Pawliger,
Russell Williams, Andrew Coven and company aren't management
because they don't post.

> Notice how Kris dropped his long Jasc signature, when MAJOR problems
> occurred with Paint Shop Pro 8?

Hmm, the e-mail seems to say kzaklika@jasc.com and anyway
I don't have any major problems with PSP 9 or 8 or 7 or 6
or 5. (I don't have any earlier versions on this computer.)
If you think there are major problems you should draw those
to the attention of product management, i.e. someone other
than me.

[snip]

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"Sally Beacham" <catintheh@t.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jackie Laderoute" <jfladeroute@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:hsbli0d74u721ocrduh0frbuira1mmkgps@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:57:38 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >One last thing, Jackie, I have caught Kris lying through his teeth more
> > >than once. Remember when I asked if Gary Barton worked for Jasc and
Kris
> > >denied it? But then some person calls Jasc support and magically a Gary
> > >B. answers the call.
> >
> > [Ow, make him stop. My sides are starting to hurt.] Just what colour
> > is the sky in your world, Uni? How many Gary B.s do you think there
> > could be in the world?
> >
> > I know Gary Barton, and I know Jasc. Kris is not solely responsible
> > for any version of PSP, and Gary doesn't work for Jasc. But don't let
> > me burst any bubbles you're blowing - I can't wait to see the final
> > creation.
> >
> > >Granted, it may be a coincidence, but with Gary Barton pumping out the
> > >PSP scripts, I think not.
> >
> > No, no - don't go talking sense now. I prefer you in fully neurotic
> > paranoid mode; you're much more amusing that way. Don't stop now -
> > I've written scripts and presets (some even shipped with 8) - I
> > suppose I work for Jasc now? And Angela, too - oh, and don't forget
> > Suz, she writes a pile of scripts.
>
>
> Darnitall, I don't write too many scripts, but some of my stuff shipped
with
> 8 too.  Oh, do I work for Jasc now too?   Funny, I didn't see you  in the
> lunch room today, Jackie - did  Porter have you working OT at your desk?
>
> It seems I've missed a few paydays, I better follow up with Accounting.
>
>
> -- 
> Sally Beacham
> www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
> Paint Shop Pro 8 Zero to Hero
> Digital Scrapbooking (Course Technology)

Hmmmm, some of my stuff shipped with PSP8 too.  May-be we all need to take a
trip to accounting ; ))

Kris Zaklika wrote:
> Uni wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> 
>>I don't "think", I know he is. Kris is solely responsible for PSP. This
>>is why you see him and him only posting for Jasc.
> 
> 
> It doesn't pay to be ignorant. Repeating a falsehood multiple
> times doesn't make it true. There is no obligation by anyone
> from any software company to post to a Usenet group. Next
> you'll be telling me that Chris Cox manages PS development
> because he posts to Usenet occasionally, and Mark Pawliger,
> Russell Williams, Andrew Coven and company aren't management
> because they don't post.

I have no idea what Mr. Cox does, although I know his web site:
http://www.chriscox.org/

> 
> 
>>Notice how Kris dropped his long Jasc signature, when MAJOR problems
>>occurred with Paint Shop Pro 8?
> 
> 
> Hmm, the e-mail seems to say kzaklika@jasc.com and anyway
> I don't have any major problems with PSP 9 or 8 or 7 or 6
> or 5. (I don't have any earlier versions on this computer.)

I have version 1.12 and I'll post it, if you wish. It, of course, is 
shareware. It states, I'm allowed to distribute it, as long as all (3) 
three files are intact.

> If you think there are major problems you should draw those
> to the attention of product management, i.e. someone other
> than me.

Kris, as I stated before, version 8 received the worst feedback and 
complaints of any Paint Shop Pro version. Not only in this group, but on 
the internet, as well. You know it as well as I do. That's why PSP-9 was 
expedited.

Once Fugitive says version 9 is decent, I may give it a try. Besides, I 
have to review the credits.

Best regards,
Uni


> 
> [snip]



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