Hi All,
             I'm having a problem working with masks the way I could in 
PSP7. I'll explaint what I used to do in PSP7 and hopefully someone can tell 
me how to do the same thing in PSP9.....

This is my perfered method for cutting things out of an image. I know there 
are other ways, but this is the way I like to do it.

OK. In PSP7 I would follow these steps.

1. Open an image.
2. Open the Layer palette and double click the background and promote to 
layer.
3. Add a new layer which I normally name Mask.
4. From the menu bar I would select Mask/New/Hide All.
5. Mask/Edit
6. Mask/View

Now. my image would have a red overlay and the Mask layer would be selected. 
I could than use the paint brush tool to remove that portion of the image I 
wanted to keep, leaving everything else in the image transparent.

Once I had the area I wanted to keep I could go to the menu bar and select 
Selections/From Mask.

This would put the marching ant selection around the area I had just removed 
the red over lay from.

Now, all I would have to do would be open the Layer palette, select the 
promoted layer (my original image) and the red over lay would disappeare but 
the marching ant selection would still be around that part of the image I 
wanted to cut out.

Now it is a simple matter of Edit/Copy and than Edit/Paste as either New 
Image or New Layer.

This worked wonderful for me. In downloading PSP9, I find some things I like 
but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to do this same thing in 
PSP9.

Any takers here?   :)

Thanks.
-- 

Greg Kamer

"Greg Kamer" <gkamer@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:gLWdnfeohbnnNafcRVn-rg@centurytel.net...
> Hi All,
>             I'm having a problem working with masks the way I could in
> PSP7. I'll explaint what I used to do in PSP7 and hopefully someone can
> tell me how to do the same thing in PSP9.....
>
> This is my perfered method for cutting things out of an image. I know
> there are other ways, but this is the way I like to do it.
>
> OK. In PSP7 I would follow these steps.
>
> 1. Open an image.
> 2. Open the Layer palette and double click the background and promote to
> layer.
> 3. Add a new layer which I normally name Mask.
> 4. From the menu bar I would select Mask/New/Hide All.
> 5. Mask/Edit
> 6. Mask/View
>
> Now. my image would have a red overlay and the Mask layer would be
> selected. I could than use the paint brush tool to remove that portion of
> the image I wanted to keep, leaving everything else in the image
> transparent.
>
> Once I had the area I wanted to keep I could go to the menu bar and
> select Selections/From Mask.
>
> This would put the marching ant selection around the area I had just
> removed the red over lay from.
>
> Now, all I would have to do would be open the Layer palette, select the
> promoted layer (my original image) and the red over lay would disappeare
> but the marching ant selection would still be around that part of the
> image I wanted to cut out.
>
> Now it is a simple matter of Edit/Copy and than Edit/Paste as either New
> Image or New Layer.
>
> This worked wonderful for me. In downloading PSP9, I find some things I
> like but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to do this same thing
> in PSP9.
>
> Any takers here?   :)
>
> Thanks.
> -- 
>
> Greg Kamer

You can do the same thing, with two differences:

1.  Masks are now a full-fledged layer type.  Create one with Layers > New
    Mask Layer > Show All.
2.  Mask layers only affect other layers that are in the same "layer
    group," which is another new feature.  A group is created for you
    automatically when you make a new mask layer.

Sceadu



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"Greg Kamer" <gkamer@nospam.com> wrote in message 
news:gLWdnfeohbnnNafcRVn-rg@centurytel.net...
> Hi All,
>             I'm having a problem working with masks the way I could in 
> PSP7. I'll explaint what I used to do in PSP7 and hopefully someone can 
> tell me how to do the same thing in PSP9.....
>
> This is my perfered method for cutting things out of an image. I know 
> there are other ways, but this is the way I like to do it.
>
> OK. In PSP7 I would follow these steps.
>
> 1. Open an image.
> 2. Open the Layer palette and double click the background and promote to 
> layer.
> 3. Add a new layer which I normally name Mask.
> 4. From the menu bar I would select Mask/New/Hide All.
> 5. Mask/Edit
> 6. Mask/View
>
> Now. my image would have a red overlay and the Mask layer would be 
> selected. I could than use the paint brush tool to remove that portion of 
> the image I wanted to keep, leaving everything else in the image 
> transparent.
>
> Once I had the area I wanted to keep I could go to the menu bar and select 
> Selections/From Mask.
>
> This would put the marching ant selection around the area I had just 
> removed the red over lay from.
>
> Now, all I would have to do would be open the Layer palette, select the 
> promoted layer (my original image) and the red over lay would disappeare 
> but the marching ant selection would still be around that part of the 
> image I wanted to cut out.
>
> Now it is a simple matter of Edit/Copy and than Edit/Paste as either New 
> Image or New Layer.
>
> This worked wonderful for me. In downloading PSP9, I find some things I 
> like but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to do this same thing 
> in PSP9.
>
> Any takers here?   :)
>
> Thanks.
> -- 
>
> Greg Kamer
>

There is now an even easier way to do what you want Does not use a mask 
layer but works the same way.
after opening the image and maybe adding a layer at this time or later click 
the Edit selections Icon on the layer pallet or "Selections > Edit 
selection". select the paint brush and white for foreground black for back 
and paint on your selection (white will show as ruby as in a mask). White 
adds Black removes. When done to your satisfaction toggle of Edit Selections 
and you now have the marching ants. Note you can use any toll's that work on 
greyscale when editing such as deform to stretch and rotate, wave,  Ect . 
Have fun

Sceadu,
                    Thanks for the reply. I did notice that layers work a 
little differently in PSP 9, but I think where I was getting messed up, and 
Trev pointed out, was I was expecting the red overlay to appear at the 
begining of the operation. But I see now that unlike PSP 7 where you paint 
to remove the red overlay from what you want to keep, in PSP 9 you paint to 
apply it to what you want to lose.

There seems to be 1 additional step, whereby you have to invert the 
selection before changing to the original image layer, and that was causing 
me some heartburn until I figured it out..... :)

Overall though, I am beinging to taking a liking to PSP 9. Still have some 
playing around to do......

There is one thing I don't like though..... My eyes are not as young as they 
uised to be, so I keep my screne resoultion set to 640X480. Unfortunately, 
the dialog boxes in PSP 9 seem to be set for a minimum of 800X600 or you 
can't see all the buttons ,like OK. So I find myself having to swap back and 
forth between screne resoultions. Oh well.....

Again, I thank you for your help...
"Sceadu" <aeonarcanum@NOhotmailANNOYINGSPAM.com> wrote in message 
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> "Greg Kamer" <gkamer@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:gLWdnfeohbnnNafcRVn-rg@centurytel.net...
>> Hi All,
>>             I'm having a problem working with masks the way I could in
>> PSP7. I'll explaint what I used to do in PSP7 and hopefully someone can
>> tell me how to do the same thing in PSP9.....
>>
>> This is my perfered method for cutting things out of an image. I know
>> there are other ways, but this is the way I like to do it.
>>
>> OK. In PSP7 I would follow these steps.
>>
>> 1. Open an image.
>> 2. Open the Layer palette and double click the background and promote to
>> layer.
>> 3. Add a new layer which I normally name Mask.
>> 4. From the menu bar I would select Mask/New/Hide All.
>> 5. Mask/Edit
>> 6. Mask/View
>>
>> Now. my image would have a red overlay and the Mask layer would be
>> selected. I could than use the paint brush tool to remove that portion of
>> the image I wanted to keep, leaving everything else in the image
>> transparent.
>>
>> Once I had the area I wanted to keep I could go to the menu bar and
>> select Selections/From Mask.
>>
>> This would put the marching ant selection around the area I had just
>> removed the red over lay from.
>>
>> Now, all I would have to do would be open the Layer palette, select the
>> promoted layer (my original image) and the red over lay would disappeare
>> but the marching ant selection would still be around that part of the
>> image I wanted to cut out.
>>
>> Now it is a simple matter of Edit/Copy and than Edit/Paste as either New
>> Image or New Layer.
>>
>> This worked wonderful for me. In downloading PSP9, I find some things I
>> like but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to do this same thing
>> in PSP9.
>>
>> Any takers here?   :)
>>
>> Thanks.
>> -- 
>>
>> Greg Kamer
>
> You can do the same thing, with two differences:
>
> 1.  Masks are now a full-fledged layer type.  Create one with Layers > New
>    Mask Layer > Show All.
> 2.  Mask layers only affect other layers that are in the same "layer
>    group," which is another new feature.  A group is created for you
>    automatically when you make a new mask layer.
>
> Sceadu
>
>
>
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Greg Kamer wrote:
>  My eyes are not as young as they uised to be, so I keep my
> screne resoultion set to 640X480. Unfortunately, the dialog boxes
> in PSP 9 seem to be set for a minimum of 800X600 or you can't see
> all the buttons ,like OK. So I find myself having to swap back
> and forth between screne resoultions. Oh well.....

Yes, 640 x 480 does not meet the minimum requirement. Have you poked
around in the Windows Accessibility functions? One is a good
magnifier that lets you run at, say 1024 x 768 but magnify selected
items when the mouse pointer is near them. It's neat. Start >
Programs > Accessories > Accessibility. There are more in a second
spot--ask Mr. Gates why not together--at Control Panel >
Accessibility Options.
-- 
Fred Hiltz,  fhiltz at yahoo dot com