I want to add a proximity card reader to my ELK M1 Control to open my
garage door. I understand it uses a 26 bit Weigand prox reader
connected through a keypad, but the manual does not show how to
program the prox card and tech service is closed on Saturday.  Can
anyone give me some help?

You need Elk's reader to plug in to the keypad and, as far as I know, it
hasn't been released yet, nor have the cards or keyfobs.

What else are you doing with the panel?
I find the thing quite remarkable and am about to install it here after a
couple o' weeks of playing with it on a table next to my PC. The serial port
is waaay fun especially if you're an alarm dealer used to 300 baud.

"automationman" <spanky0126@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cc95a694.0408070645.1263b6f3@posting.google.com...
> I want to add a proximity card reader to my ELK M1 Control to open my
> garage door. I understand it uses a 26 bit Weigand prox reader
> connected through a keypad, but the manual does not show how to
> program the prox card and tech service is closed on Saturday.  Can
> anyone give me some help?

I also have my first M1 and learning about it in my home.  I replaced
an old Ademco system.

After playing around with my HID prox reader, I figured out how to
program the prox cards.  Just go into keypad programming where you
normally enter a new user code and present the card to the prox
reader.  The prox card information pops up on the keypad screen.
Pretty easy after I figured it out.  I was told that any 26 bit
Weigand format reader would interface through the keypad reader
interface connector.  I had a HID reader already, so I used it. I made
a connector.  Easier to buy one from ELK.

I have been experimenting with Rule writing, mostly controlling X10
lights for now. The Rules make the M1 a powerful programmable
controller.  I have some industrial control applications that I will
probably use the M1 in. A chicken farm that needs temperature
monitoring.  I hope the temperature probes will work in that
application. Have not seen a temperature probe yet.

My next implimentation in my home is to get the M1 to call my cell
phone when my daughter gets home from school.  I want her to have a
prox card to open the garage door and disarm the M1.  Then send me a
voice message that she got home.  My wish list is pretty big, but I
have not found anything yet that it won't do as far as home automation
control, and it is a REAL burglar alarm system too.

I have installed the RP programming software on my computer, but have
not done too much with it yet.  It looks very friendly.  I will
comment on it as I learn more.




"Spike" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:<oeaRc.1537706$Ar.250316@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
> You need Elk's reader to plug in to the keypad and, as far as I know, it
> hasn't been released yet, nor have the cards or keyfobs.
> 
> What else are you doing with the panel?
> I find the thing quite remarkable and am about to install it here after a
> couple o' weeks of playing with it on a table next to my PC. The serial port
> is waaay fun especially if you're an alarm dealer used to 300 baud.
> 
> "automationman" <spanky0126@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cc95a694.0408070645.1263b6f3@posting.google.com...
> > I want to add a proximity card reader to my ELK M1 Control to open my
> > garage door. I understand it uses a 26 bit Weigand prox reader
> > connected through a keypad, but the manual does not show how to
> > program the prox card and tech service is closed on Saturday.  Can
> > anyone give me some help?

You wouldn't happen to know the pinout on the serial port, would you?
I want to run a quad from upstairs PC to M1 in basement.

"automationman" <spanky0126@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cc95a694.0408080706.16614d70@posting.google.com...
> I also have my first M1 and learning about it in my home.  I replaced
> an old Ademco system.
>
> After playing around with my HID prox reader, I figured out how to
> program the prox cards.  Just go into keypad programming where you
> normally enter a new user code and present the card to the prox
> reader.  The prox card information pops up on the keypad screen.
> Pretty easy after I figured it out.  I was told that any 26 bit
> Weigand format reader would interface through the keypad reader
> interface connector.  I had a HID reader already, so I used it. I made
> a connector.  Easier to buy one from ELK.
>
> I have been experimenting with Rule writing, mostly controlling X10
> lights for now. The Rules make the M1 a powerful programmable
> controller.  I have some industrial control applications that I will
> probably use the M1 in. A chicken farm that needs temperature
> monitoring.  I hope the temperature probes will work in that
> application. Have not seen a temperature probe yet.
>
> My next implimentation in my home is to get the M1 to call my cell
> phone when my daughter gets home from school.  I want her to have a
> prox card to open the garage door and disarm the M1.  Then send me a
> voice message that she got home.  My wish list is pretty big, but I
> have not found anything yet that it won't do as far as home automation
> control, and it is a REAL burglar alarm system too.
>
> I have installed the RP programming software on my computer, but have
> not done too much with it yet.  It looks very friendly.  I will
> comment on it as I learn more.
>
>
>
>
> "Spike" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:<oeaRc.1537706$Ar.250316@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
> > You need Elk's reader to plug in to the keypad and, as far as I know, it
> > hasn't been released yet, nor have the cards or keyfobs.
> >
> > What else are you doing with the panel?
> > I find the thing quite remarkable and am about to install it here after
a
> > couple o' weeks of playing with it on a table next to my PC. The serial
port
> > is waaay fun especially if you're an alarm dealer used to 300 baud.
> >
> > "automationman" <spanky0126@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:cc95a694.0408070645.1263b6f3@posting.google.com...
> > > I want to add a proximity card reader to my ELK M1 Control to open my
> > > garage door. I understand it uses a 26 bit Weigand prox reader
> > > connected through a keypad, but the manual does not show how to
> > > program the prox card and tech service is closed on Saturday.  Can
> > > anyone give me some help?

My PC to the M1 9 pin serial connector uses a standard serial cable.
Pin out for 9 pin serial cable:
pin 2 to pin 2
pin 3 to pin 3
pin 5 to pin 5 ground



"Spike" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:<WvJRc.366452$rCA1.239798@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
> You wouldn't happen to know the pinout on the serial port, would you?
> I want to run a quad from upstairs PC to M1 in basement.
>

I love this place.

"automationman" <spanky0126@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cc95a694.0408091513.728b56a2@posting.google.com...
> My PC to the M1 9 pin serial connector uses a standard serial cable.
> Pin out for 9 pin serial cable:
> pin 2 to pin 2
> pin 3 to pin 3
> pin 5 to pin 5 ground
>
>
>
> "Spike" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:<WvJRc.366452$rCA1.239798@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
> > You wouldn't happen to know the pinout on the serial port, would you?
> > I want to run a quad from upstairs PC to M1 in basement.
> >

"Spike" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:qhVRc.1602207$Ar.1404907@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> I love this place.


I feel all "warm and fuzzy" coming here too...  :-))

Must admit I felt a little sheepish when I cut in to the cable and there
only were four conductors. Leave it to the nerd brigade to complicate a
simple circuit.

"Frank Olson" <Use_the_email_llinks@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in message
news:42ZRc.64246$M95.37861@pd7tw1no...
>
> "Spike" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:qhVRc.1602207$Ar.1404907@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > I love this place.
>
>
> I feel all "warm and fuzzy" coming here too...  :-))
>
>

Implimented a new feature in my house this weekend.

Read about some example things I could do with the M1 and one of them
was an automated alarm clock.   Figured out how to write some rules
using RP software for the alarm clock to wake me up at 6:00 AM, Monday
through Friday but not Saturday and Sunday because I wanted to sleep
in on the weekends.  Used the voice going through my inside speaker
connected to Output 1 to "Say The Time".

I love to be woke up by that sexy voice!

I named the Lighting, X-10 output C3 "Coffee Pot" and added to the
rule to turn the coffee pot on for two hours. It looks like that every
output on the M1 has a timer that can turn on or turn off the output
after the time runs out.  I have an X-10 wall receptacle at the coffee
pot.  NOTE: Make sure you use a dumb coffee pot that does not have all
those fancy On/Off timers build in which makes it NOT come ON when you
apply AC power.  I had to drag out my old dumb coffee pot. Yes, I
could have used those timers in the fancy coffee pot to turn on the
pot, but the M1 adjusts for day light savings time and this is more
fun!!!!

This is the Rule that I wrote for the wakeup and coffee pot ON:
WHENEVER THE TIME IS 6:00 AM
   AND THE DAY(S) OF THE WEEK IS/ARE -MTWTF-
      THEN ANNOUNCE Say Time(vm238)       ***this message is way down
the list
      THEN TURN Coffee Pot [35(C3)] ON FOR 2 HOURS     *** X10 House C
unit 3

For some reason I cannot copy and paste the rules to a text file. That
needs to be an improvement.  I am not complaining, this RP software is
easy to learn, and FREE.

Next I want to connect the M1's voice output to my stereo speakers
located through out the house. Any suggestions?

As I play with the M1 and learn new toys I will keep you posted. I
have got several emails from interested people that do not want to
post. The more information we can share, the more we can learn.

I need more ideas for my house.  What are you guys doing?

On 10 Aug 2004 11:16:50 -0700, spanky0126@hotmail.com (automationman)
wrote (with possible editing):

....snip

>Next I want to connect the M1's voice output to my stereo speakers
>located through out the house. Any suggestions?

I connected the voice output of an HAI Omni Pro II to 2 paging
amplifiers - one for inside the house and one for outside.  The
telephone paging system connects to the same amps.  I placed ceiling
speakers throughout the house, wired to the 70v spec and adjusted
speaker volume through the transformer taps according to speaker
placement.  It works very well.

>
>As I play with the M1 and learn new toys I will keep you posted. I
>have got several emails from interested people that do not want to
>post. The more information we can share, the more we can learn.
>
>I need more ideas for my house.  What are you guys doing?

One of the things we did here was to place magnetic sensors (Car Tel)
in our drive and programmed the unit to ring when a car crosses the
lowest sensor.  Simple logic lets the unit announce "Guest approaching
front entrance" when they're heading for the front door" or "Vehicle
approaching garage drive" when they're coming around the back.

We also use a staged security system where voice warnings are produced
under certain conditions.  
--

Larry
Email to rapp at lmr dot com

Thanks for the speaker suggestions. I will look into them.  I had not
thought about the driveway sensor.  I really like that idea.  If it is
dark,  I could make the outside flood lights come on for a time period
when a car approaches also.

Great input!
Thanks.


L. M. Rappaport <nospam@invalid.org> wrote in message news:<r6dkh01tkgpgj0jjornqeqel72u6jqp9n4@4ax.com>...
> On 10 Aug 2004 11:16:50 -0700, spanky0126@hotmail.com (automationman)
> wrote (with possible editing):
> 
> ...snip
> 
> >Next I want to connect the M1's voice output to my stereo speakers
> >located through out the house. Any suggestions?
> 
> I connected the voice output of an HAI Omni Pro II to 2 paging
> amplifiers - one for inside the house and one for outside.  The
> telephone paging system connects to the same amps.  I placed ceiling
> speakers throughout the house, wired to the 70v spec and adjusted
> speaker volume through the transformer taps according to speaker
> placement.  It works very well.
> 
> >
> >As I play with the M1 and learn new toys I will keep you posted. I
> >have got several emails from interested people that do not want to
> >post. The more information we can share, the more we can learn.
> >
> >I need more ideas for my house.  What are you guys doing?
> 
> One of the things we did here was to place magnetic sensors (Car Tel)
> in our drive and programmed the unit to ring when a car crosses the
> lowest sensor.  Simple logic lets the unit announce "Guest approaching
> front entrance" when they're heading for the front door" or "Vehicle
> approaching garage drive" when they're coming around the back.
> 
> We also use a staged security system where voice warnings are produced
> under certain conditions.

"automationman" <spanky0126@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cc95a694.0408101016.1d3d3a4d@posting.google.com...
> Implimented a new feature in my house this weekend.
>
> Read about some example things I could do with the M1 and one of them
> was an automated alarm clock.   Figured out how to write some rules
> using RP software for the alarm clock to wake me up at 6:00 AM, Monday
> through Friday but not Saturday and Sunday because I wanted to sleep
> in on the weekends.  Used the voice going through my inside speaker
> connected to Output 1 to "Say The Time".
>
> I love to be woke up by that sexy voice!
>
> I named the Lighting, X-10 output C3 "Coffee Pot" and added to the
> rule to turn the coffee pot on for two hours. It looks like that every
> output on the M1 has a timer that can turn on or turn off the output
> after the time runs out.  I have an X-10 wall receptacle at the coffee
> pot.  NOTE: Make sure you use a dumb coffee pot that does not have all
> those fancy On/Off timers build in which makes it NOT come ON when you
> apply AC power.  I had to drag out my old dumb coffee pot. Yes, I
> could have used those timers in the fancy coffee pot to turn on the
> pot, but the M1 adjusts for day light savings time and this is more
> fun!!!!
>
> This is the Rule that I wrote for the wakeup and coffee pot ON:
> WHENEVER THE TIME IS 6:00 AM
>    AND THE DAY(S) OF THE WEEK IS/ARE -MTWTF-
>       THEN ANNOUNCE Say Time(vm238)       ***this message is way down
> the list
>       THEN TURN Coffee Pot [35(C3)] ON FOR 2 HOURS     *** X10 House C
> unit 3
>
> For some reason I cannot copy and paste the rules to a text file.

No printing features at all... that was a bit of a letdown. I use a screen
capture to make a printout or "text" record file.
If you meant copying rules, that was a major letdown. I haven't figured out
why they bothered with the copy or paste buttons in the rules section... I
haven't been able to do anything with them ?????

That
> needs to be an improvement.  I am not complaining, this RP software is
> easy to learn, and FREE.

Have you seen Virtual House yet?

>
> Next I want to connect the M1's voice output to my stereo speakers
> located through out the house. Any suggestions?

Hmmmm. Tricky. Maybe use output relays to switch stereo speakers between
Stereo amp and M1. Use dummy loads for your stereo when you 'remove' the
speakers.

>
> As I play with the M1 and learn new toys I will keep you posted. I
> have got several emails from interested people that do not want to
> post.

Why the hell is that? I have no trouble posting dumbass questions. There's
an asshole here that takes glee in putting down us trained monkeys but I
find his barbs laughable.


> The more information we can share, the more we can learn.
> I need more ideas for my house.  What are you guys doing?

I have 3 lines in here and we have to look at the phone to see which line so
we know who has to answer. I use 930s to have the nice lady announce which
line is ringing.

I'm pissing around with x10 again too. I'm finding I can easily dim up and
dim down, waaay cool. I don't use the cheap occupancy PIRs for alarm, cross
platform alright :-)

Just scratching the surface too... nice panel!

> 
> No printing features at all... that was a bit of a letdown. I use a screen
> capture to make a printout or "text" record file.
> If you meant copying rules, that was a major letdown. I haven't figured out
> why they bothered with the copy or paste buttons in the rules section... I
> haven't been able to do anything with them ?????
> 
> That
> > needs to be an improvement.  I am not complaining, this RP software is
> > easy to learn, and FREE.
> 
> Have you seen Virtual House yet?
> 
> >
> > Next I want to connect the M1's voice output to my stereo speakers
> > located through out the house. Any suggestions?
> 
> Hmmmm. Tricky. Maybe use output relays to switch stereo speakers between
> Stereo amp and M1. Use dummy loads for your stereo when you 'remove' the
> speakers.
> 
> >
> > The more information we can share, the more we can learn.
> > I need more ideas for my house.  What are you guys doing?
> 
> I have 3 lines in here and we have to look at the phone to see which line so
> we know who has to answer. I use 930s to have the nice lady announce which
> line is ringing.
> 
 
> Just scratching the surface too... nice panel!

I found on Elk's M1 website that they have released a new version of
the M1 software, version 1.4.1, and ELK-RP programming software which
has alot of new additions and enhancements.  It is so nice to be able
to totally upgrade the controls software without sending it back to
the factory.

I am still finding new and great things that I can do.  The one big
thing that I have found is the ability to print an account including
the Rules section. It gives a beautifully formatted printout of the
controls entire programming map.  Nice job!

I have not seen Virtual House.  No info.  Must be a secret!!  What is
it?

Until I discover more, later.

>
> I have not seen Virtual House.  No info.  Must be a secret!!  What is
> it?
>

I don't think it's a secret, at least I hope not.
I'm just a trained monkey alarm installer so I had a lot of questions about
the other side of the platform. They're a decent and responsive bunch there.
I guess one of them figured they could keep me out of their hair for awhile
with a nifty little M1 thing they're working on. It allows you to create
buttons and graphical devices and overlay them onto a picture of your house
with multiple floors.   Click the buttons and send commands to the M1.  Turn
on the ASCII string transmissions on the M1 under Global programming and the
buttons can change when something happens in the house, like opening a door.