hie there..

just wondering how much would one charge a company that wants a solution
that will include jsp/servlets/mysql and a few ejbs or just normal beans.
this might take me
8-10wks to build working on it part time.. i have no idea what to charge..
any suggestions??? (not hourly rate but a package deal)

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:39:53 +0100, Phil Britton wrote:

> "Fadzi Ushewokunze" <kingfadzi@bigpond.com> writes:
> 
>> hie there..
>> 
>> just wondering how much would one charge a company that wants a
>> solution that will include jsp/servlets/mysql and a few ejbs or just
>> normal beans. this might take me
>> 8-10wks to build working on it part time.. i have no idea what to
>> charge.. any suggestions??? (not hourly rate but a package deal)
>> 
>> 
> You don't say where your'e posting from but the following rule is fairly
> international for a bespoke software developement that has no sell-on
> value or you retain righst on finished product.
> 
> Work out how long it would take you to do in hours = X
> 
> What is the typicla hourly rate where you live for someone with your
> skills and experience = Y
> 
> Material costs (CDs for burning, paper for manuals etc) = P
> 
> Expenses (travelling to and from customer site, telephone calls etc)= Q
> 
> Depreciation costs for your equipment, non-movable assets (e.g.
> house/office) = R
> 
> Charge to Customer C= X*Y+P+Q+R
> 
> As it's a package you can estimate P,Q and R. You can also offer
> discount of you think that this project can be a loss leader for follow
> on work or discount of they pay up within a certain time of being
> presented with your bill,

I would add one more factor: risk. By offering fixed price, you are
assuming the fairly substantial risk of estimating incorrectly. What if it
ends up taking 20 wks instead of 10?

For the same reason, it is critically important that you nail down the
exact scope of the project, and have a policy in place for charging for
any changes to the scope.

Also, when calculating the hourly rate, don't take the net rate of a
salaried person, but include the cost of benefits, taxes etc. that the
employer would usually pay. Or just use the hourly rate of somebody who
already works as a freelancer.

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thanks  phil. your info helps a lot.
i am posting from sydney australia.

"Phil Britton" <phil@phil-britton.com> wrote in message
news:uwue8dm4m.fsf@phil-britton.com...
> "Fadzi Ushewokunze" <kingfadzi@bigpond.com> writes:
>
> > hie there..
> >
> > just wondering how much would one charge a company that wants a solution
> > that will include jsp/servlets/mysql and a few ejbs or just normal
beans.
> > this might take me
> > 8-10wks to build working on it part time.. i have no idea what to
charge..
> > any suggestions??? (not hourly rate but a package deal)
> >
>
> You don't say where your'e posting from but the following rule is
> fairly international for a bespoke software developement that has no
> sell-on value or you retain righst on finished product.
>
> Work out how long it would take you to do in hours = X
>
> What is the typicla hourly rate where you live for someone with your
> skills and experience = Y
>
> Material costs (CDs for burning, paper for manuals etc) = P
>
> Expenses (travelling to and from customer site, telephone calls etc)= Q
>
> Depreciation costs for your equipment, non-movable assets
> (e.g. house/office) = R
>
> Charge to Customer C= X*Y+P+Q+R
>
> As it's a package you can estimate P,Q and R. You can also offer
> discount of you think that this project can be a loss leader for
> follow on work or discount of they pay up within a certain time of
> being presented with your bill,
>
> HTH
>
> cheers
>
> Phil
>
>
> --
>
> As of now they're on Double SECRET Probation!

One more thing is to calculate the time correctly ... if you dont
deliver within the time mentioned in the contract you might have to
end up paying through your nose. ... yes risk has to be covered .. and
if possible insure your project.





Ingo Pakleppa - ingo at kkeane dot com <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.07.24.22.03.46.363229@privacy.net>...
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:39:53 +0100, Phil Britton wrote:
> 
> > "Fadzi Ushewokunze" <kingfadzi@bigpond.com> writes:
> > 
> >> hie there..
> >> 
> >> just wondering how much would one charge a company that wants a
> >> solution that will include jsp/servlets/mysql and a few ejbs or just
> >> normal beans. this might take me
> >> 8-10wks to build working on it part time.. i have no idea what to
> >> charge.. any suggestions??? (not hourly rate but a package deal)
> >> 
> >> 
> > You don't say where your'e posting from but the following rule is fairly
> > international for a bespoke software developement that has no sell-on
> > value or you retain righst on finished product.
> > 
> > Work out how long it would take you to do in hours = X
> > 
> > What is the typicla hourly rate where you live for someone with your
> > skills and experience = Y
> > 
> > Material costs (CDs for burning, paper for manuals etc) = P
> > 
> > Expenses (travelling to and from customer site, telephone calls etc)= Q
> > 
> > Depreciation costs for your equipment, non-movable assets (e.g.
> > house/office) = R
> > 
> > Charge to Customer C= X*Y+P+Q+R
> > 
> > As it's a package you can estimate P,Q and R. You can also offer
> > discount of you think that this project can be a loss leader for follow
> > on work or discount of they pay up within a certain time of being
> > presented with your bill,
> 
> I would add one more factor: risk. By offering fixed price, you are
> assuming the fairly substantial risk of estimating incorrectly. What if it
> ends up taking 20 wks instead of 10?
> 
> For the same reason, it is critically important that you nail down the
> exact scope of the project, and have a policy in place for charging for
> any changes to the scope.
> 
> Also, when calculating the hourly rate, don't take the net rate of a
> salaried person, but include the cost of benefits, taxes etc. that the
> employer would usually pay. Or just use the hourly rate of somebody who
> already works as a freelancer.