I received this email from Krishna Tyner about his ad for Sun hardware
in the Java newsgroups.

Hi, David, Michael, Hamilcar and Roedy-


I read your responses to my posting to the
c.l.j.softwaretools usergroup. First, let me apologize 
for offending all of you. It was never my intention to 
alienate or offend members of this group. I realize that 
this is a software community and I was too loose in my 
judgement when I made the decision to post hardware 
announcements to all of you. I'll use more discretion in 
the future.


Second, let me introduce myself. I do actually work for Sun
and my name really is Krishna Tyner--there's no shrouding
going on, I promise.


One of my jobs is to communicate big Sun news, product
announcements and key events to our online communities.
Typically, these annoucements are well received. Other
times, they incite controversy or disagreement, especially
if the announcement isn't well targeted to a certain group.
Again, for the latter I apologize and will be more careful.


Finally, my intent is to open a productive dialogue, build 
community relationships and, hopefully, more closely tie Sun's 
customers to the company. But, I'm a marketing gal (not a guy, 
as was suggested in this thread ;) and not very technical,
so I'm getting the picture that some editing needs to
happen to be more effective. I'll be sure to do that.


So, my promise to all of you is to give you just-the-facts
when I post, eliminate the marketing fluff, and I want to
invite you all to email me directly if you feel I could be
doing something better--that type of open communication
is what I'm ultimately aiming for.


Thanks for the opportunity to respond and I hope to
begin a more friendly, productive dialogue with you all
in the future.

Krishna Tyner 


-- 
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming. 
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

Roedy Green wrote:
<snip>
> Thanks for the opportunity to respond and I hope to
> begin a more friendly, productive dialogue with you all
> in the future.
> 
> Krishna Tyner 

Kewl! Kudos to Roedy and Krishna for the clarification.

>"Roedy Green"
> I received this email from Krishna Tyner about his ad for Sun hardware
> in the Java newsgroups.

It's a her- not a he.

> Hi, David, Michael, Hamilcar and Roedy-
>
>
> I read your responses to my posting to the
> c.l.j.softwaretools usergroup. First, let me apologize
> for offending all of you. It was never my intention to
> alienate or offend members of this group. I realize that
> this is a software community and I was too loose in my
> judgement when I made the decision to post hardware
> announcements to all of you. I'll use more discretion in
> the future.
>
>
> Second, let me introduce myself. I do actually work for Sun
> and my name really is Krishna Tyner--there's no shrouding
> going on, I promise.
>
>
> One of my jobs is to communicate big Sun news, product
> announcements and key events to our online communities.
> Typically, these annoucements are well received. Other
> times, they incite controversy or disagreement, especially
> if the announcement isn't well targeted to a certain group.
> Again, for the latter I apologize and will be more careful.
>
>
> Finally, my intent is to open a productive dialogue, build
> community relationships and, hopefully, more closely tie Sun's
> customers to the company. But, I'm a marketing gal (not a guy,
> as was suggested in this thread ;) and not very technical,
> so I'm getting the picture that some editing needs to
> happen to be more effective. I'll be sure to do that.
>
>
> So, my promise to all of you is to give you just-the-facts
> when I post, eliminate the marketing fluff, and I want to
> invite you all to email me directly if you feel I could be
> doing something better--that type of open communication
> is what I'm ultimately aiming for.
>
>
> Thanks for the opportunity to respond and I hope to
> begin a more friendly, productive dialogue with you all
> in the future.
>
> Krishna Tyner
>
>
> --
> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
> Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
> See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.


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your point being?

"Battler" <someone@somwhere.com> wrote in message
news:5RYTc.6$Fc1.3@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> >"Roedy Green"
> > I received this email from Krishna Tyner about his ad for Sun hardware
> > in the Java newsgroups.
>
> It's a her- not a he.
>
> > Hi, David, Michael, Hamilcar and Roedy-
> >
> >
> > I read your responses to my posting to the
> > c.l.j.softwaretools usergroup. First, let me apologize
> > for offending all of you. It was never my intention to
> > alienate or offend members of this group. I realize that
> > this is a software community and I was too loose in my
> > judgement when I made the decision to post hardware
> > announcements to all of you. I'll use more discretion in
> > the future.
> >
> >
> > Second, let me introduce myself. I do actually work for Sun
> > and my name really is Krishna Tyner--there's no shrouding
> > going on, I promise.
> >
> >
> > One of my jobs is to communicate big Sun news, product
> > announcements and key events to our online communities.
> > Typically, these annoucements are well received. Other
> > times, they incite controversy or disagreement, especially
> > if the announcement isn't well targeted to a certain group.
> > Again, for the latter I apologize and will be more careful.
> >
> >
> > Finally, my intent is to open a productive dialogue, build
> > community relationships and, hopefully, more closely tie Sun's
> > customers to the company. But, I'm a marketing gal (not a guy,
> > as was suggested in this thread ;) and not very technical,
> > so I'm getting the picture that some editing needs to
> > happen to be more effective. I'll be sure to do that.
> >
> >
> > So, my promise to all of you is to give you just-the-facts
> > when I post, eliminate the marketing fluff, and I want to
> > invite you all to email me directly if you feel I could be
> > doing something better--that type of open communication
> > is what I'm ultimately aiming for.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the opportunity to respond and I hope to
> > begin a more friendly, productive dialogue with you all
> > in the future.
> >
> > Krishna Tyner
> >
> >
> > --
> > Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
> > Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
> > See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
>
>
> ---
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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>
>

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 19:08:34 GMT, Roedy Green wrote:

> I received this email from Krishna Tyner about his ..

...see Battler's response.

> ..ad for Sun hardware in the Java newsgroups.

Just checking we are all on the same page. 
Is this what you are refering to?
<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7a91851.0408121105.6f3007a@posting.google.com>

What is the relevance to c.l.j.programmer?

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