Hi there,in your opinion, which is the most popular program written in Java?Thanks

Michele 'xjp' schrieb:> Hi there,> in your opinion, which is the most popular program written in Java?> > ThanksI would say it is Azureus...P2P software simply finds a lot of customers..

Michele 'xjp' wrote:> Hi there,> in your opinion, which is the most popular program written in Java?HelloWorld.-- Lew

Lew schrieb:> Michele 'xjp' wrote:>> Hi there,>> in your opinion, which is the most popular program written in Java?> > HelloWorld.> But which Version? There seems not be any "Hello World" program aroundunder the sourceforge top1000 programs..so I doubt that it can come close to Azureus.. a lot of people tend towrite "Hello World" just for their own sake and don't share it with thecommunity of users which may, be sad but an unchangeable fact.If you want a top quality "Hello World" program today then you have todo it on your own. May be if someone is willing to develop a highQuality one and put it under GPL it would spread a bit more around.So no Hello World is definately less spread  (just in java) as Azureusor some other application.Though as a last thought, as some parts of the jre are written in javaas well, the jre  would definately be more widespread as "Hello World"sor Azureus.Christian

Christian wrote:> Lew schrieb:>> Michele 'xjp' wrote:>>> Hi there,>>> in your opinion, which is the most popular program written in Java?>> HelloWorld.>>> > But which Version? There seems not be any "Hello World" program around> under the sourceforge top1000 programs..As if SourceForge were the only way to distribute software.  Unlike Perl programmers, we Java programmers have the luxury of more than one source for software.  And I was speaking of all versions.  I notice you don't bother to limit your discussion of Azureus to only one version.You have to include other modes of distribution, such as<http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/index.html>It's so popular, it's distributed by Sun itself.  They've even got separate pages devoted to it according to your deployment environment.And they aren't even the only ones.  A Google for '+Java "Hello World"' yielded 1,860,000 hits.   Yes, '+Java Azureus' yielded more hits, but many of them on the first page were discussion forum hits.  The "Hello World" front-page hits were all primary sources.Anyway, the question was "in [our] opinion" what's most popular; the OP didn't ask which one actually is.-- Lew

On Aug 19, 6:01 pm, Lew <l...@lewscanon.com> wrote:> Christian wrote:> > Lew schrieb:> >> Michele 'xjp' wrote:> >>> Hi there,> >>> in your opinion, which is the most popular program written in Java?> >> HelloWorld.>> > But which Version? There seems not be any "Hello World" program around> > under the sourceforge top1000 programs..>> As if SourceForge were the only way to distribute software.  Unlike Perl> programmers, we Java programmers have the luxury of more than one source for> software.  And I was speaking of all versions.  I notice you don't bother to> limit your discussion of Azureus to only one version.>> You have to include other modes of distribution, such as> <http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/index.html>>> It's so popular, it's distributed by Sun itself.  They've even got separate> pages devoted to it according to your deployment environment.>> And they aren't even the only ones.  A Google for '+Java "Hello World"'> yielded 1,860,000 hits.   Yes, '+Java Azureus' yielded more hits, but many of> them on the first page were discussion forum hits.  The "Hello World"> front-page hits were all primary sources.>> Anyway, the question was "in [our] opinion" what's most popular; the OP didn't> ask which one actually is.>> --> LewI think it's " Hello World! "

Lew wrote:....> Anyway, the question was "in [our] opinion" what's most popular; the OP > didn't ask which one actually is.> Note that it was not "which is the most frequently executed" or "mostfrequently downloaded", but "most popular".HelloWorld should win a popularity contest. Most of us have written itat least once in Java. At least for me, it is associated with the fun oflearning another programming language.Patricia

Patricia Shanahan wrote:> Lew wrote:> ....>> Anyway, the question was "in [our] opinion" what's most popular; the >> OP didn't ask which one actually is.>>> > Note that it was not "which is the most frequently executed" or "most> frequently downloaded", but "most popular".> > HelloWorld should win a popularity contest. Most of us have written it> at least once in Java. At least for me, it is associated with the fun of> learning another programming language.Exactly.While my response is, of course, tongue in cheek at one level, I have some serious points.As developers, understanding requirements is key to our success.  A question like, "What is most popular?" is fraught with opportunities for misinterpretation."Hello World" is arguably the most "popular" Java program (also C, C++, ...) for precisely the reasons and definitions Patricia gave.The questioner perhaps assumed some metric like "most frequent executed" or "... downloaded", but we cannot know that for sure just from the question. They also didn't state that it had to be a third-party program nor that we actually use it ongoingly.Getting the design of any software correct is a matter of asking the right questions, fully cognizant of any underlying assumptions.  Even a seemingly innocent question rests nine-tenths under the surface like some giant iceberg of the unspoken.-- Lew

Lew wrote:> Michele 'xjp' wrote:>> Hi there,>> in your opinion, which is the most popular program written in Java?>> HelloWorld.Lew took my answer, so I'll have to find another one.  How about javac? 

Christian wrote:> Michele 'xjp' schrieb:>> Hi there,>> in your opinion, which is the most popular program written in Java?> > I would say it is Azureus...That is a good candidate. 150 million downloads is a lot.The only other app I can think that are very widely usedis OpenOffice, which even though the majority is C++ alsohas a lot of Java code in it.Java is much more popular server side than desktop. Probablymost people uses web sites served by WAS, WL, OC4J and JBoss,but I guess that does not really count for the original poster.Arne

On Aug 19, 5:02 pm, Arne Vajh=F8j <a...@vajhoej.dk> wrote:> Christian wrote:> > Michele 'xjp' schrieb:> >> Hi there,> >> in your opinion, which is the most popular program written in Java?>> > I would say it is Azureus...>> That is a good candidate. 150 million downloads is a lot.Eclipse?Nah.Limewire?

"Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:nW_xi.50040$YL5.22827@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...> Lew wrote:>> Michele 'xjp' wrote:>>> Hi there,>>> in your opinion, which is the most popular program written in Java?>>>> HelloWorld.>> Lew took my answer, so I'll have to find another one.  How about javac?Javac gets my vote. There has to be a lot of Tomcat out there too. 

On Aug 19, 5:58 am, Michele 'xjp' <mich...@removethis.nectarine.it>wrote:> Hi there,> in your opinion, which is the most popular program written in Java?>> ThanksAzureus immediately came to mindDB Visualizer is quite niceEclipse is sheer pleasure to use.SableCC is not as popular as Antlr or Javacc, but it is a greatproductXMLC is a great way to dynamically produce HTML/XML