labview 8.2 llb run with labview 8.5
On the PC I have delete labview 8.2, but I dont find the CD for reinstall. I have a .llb file made with labview 8.2, Can i run it with labview 8.5 or download labview 8.2, I muss install ii rapidelly.
Costello, you can update the VIs within the LLB to LV 8.5 if they do not have their blockdiagram removed.....hope this helps,Norbert
How can I update ? When I start the .vi in the lbb he dont found somme .vi located in DAQmx (wrtie.lbb, start task.lbb,...) How can i install this lbb?
Costello, if you get loading errors when opening one VI from the LLB like you the ones you get, you have missing components.Since you spoke of DAQmx, i asume that you didn't install NI DAQmx on your machine. You should catch that up.hope this helps,Norbert
...Can LabView 8.5 read LabView 8.5.1 VIs
Since LabVIEW 8.5.1 is only a bug fix, can LabVIEW 8.5 read any VIs generated in LabVIEW 8.5.1?
Simple answer YES. But it will the VIs compile so it is a good idea to make a mass compile in the folder where the VIs are.
...Installing LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 8.5.1
I want to run saved VI's from one computer with LabVIEW 8.5 Professional Development (8.5) on another computer using the Run-Time Software.
After installing LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 8.5 (<a href="http://ftp.ni.com/support/softlib/labview/labview_runtime/8.5/windows/LabVIEW85RuntimeEngineFull.exe" target="_blank">LabVIEW85RuntimeEngineFull.exe</a> from <a href="http://joule.ni.com/nidu/cds/view/p/id/861/lang/en" target="_blank">http://joule.ni.com/nidu/cds/view/p/id/861/lang/en</a>), do I need to do anything else before running a saved VI created in LabVIEW 8.5 from another computer? I install the program, but the only options under programs-national instruments are:
When I installed LabVIEW DSC Run-Time System 7.1 on the same computer there was an shortcut under "programs-national instruments-" to LabVIEW DSC Run-Time System 7.1, which is what I need but for the Run-Time Engine 8.5 instead.
I believe you can not do this. The runtime I believe requires the executable version of the VI.
You will need to build an application from your saved VI. In the application builder, you can include the run-time libraries and progras. This will help ease the installation process. Once you have completed this operation, you can just run the executable with your VI.
Joseph is correct. The run-time engine is only for "stand-alone" execu...opening a labview 8.5 file with labview 8.21
Hello,I was working on a project at home with labview 8.21, I nearly finished this project but I addes some stuff at school where they have labview 8.5.Today I wanted to open the labview file on my computer, but It gave an error:
labview load error 9: Vi version 8.5 is newer then labVIEW version 8.2.1.Is there any way I can open the file on my computer?Or can I save the file at school als a 8.2.1 file?
thnx in advance,Seppe
Hi Seppe, just save it in school using "Save to previous" from the file menu...
You'll have to reopen the file on a computer with LV 8.5. From there you can do a Save as Previous Version to save back to LV 8.2.1
Hi Seppe, if you have LabView 8.5 you can save your vi for previous verions (8.2.1 and 8.0)Mike
ok, thnx for all the correct answers !
...How to open Labview 8.5 VI in Labview 8.2
Hi I am using LabVIEW 8.2.I found one ook modulation example project(http://decibel.ni.com/content/docs/DOC-1394),it was developed in Labview 8.5.I have to oepn this one in My system mean in Labview 8.2.Please tell procedure.Is it possible or not.?Thnaking you sir.
It is not possible directly. Somebody with access to version 8.5 needs to save it for version 8.2.
Could you attach that particular vi in your post so that somebody can save it for 8.2
Or you can install Labview 8.5 demo. Works for 30 days....
Hi Mathan,Thanks for your reply.i need OOK Modulation (FPGA).VI and OOK Modulation (HOST).VI in version 8.2Here i am attaching this two vi please save it in version 8.2 and send to me.Thanking you Sreenivasulu.O
i�m not sure if they are enough, but here they are. :smileyhappy:
OOK Modulation (FPGA).vi:
http://forums.ni.com/attachments/ni/170/324624/1/OOK Modulation (FPGA).vi
OOK Modulation (HOST).vi:
http://forums.ni.com/attachments/ni/170/324624/2/OOK Modulation (HOST).vi
Hi Mike,i got error like this.Here i am attaching two error image what i got.please check nad correct me.One more "OOK_Pack Bits for transmission.VI" and "OOK_Configuration IF RIO for Transmission.VI" was not found.Thanking you sirSreenivasulu.O
ook_error2...LabVIEW 8.2 -- "unable to locate LabView run-time" error message
I am trying to run a LabVIEW version 8 exe file and keep getting the
"Unable to locate" error. I downloaded LabVIEW_8.2_Runtime_Engine.exe
from the NI website and installed the entire contents of the
distribution. After getting the error, I have tried uninstalling and
reinstalling several times, with the same result.
Is there some way I can troubleshoot this? Is there a configuration
file or a registry entry I can check to see where LabVIEW is looking
for the run-time?
...labview 8.5 to labview 7.0
i am on my labview working with 8.5but at work, we only have labview 7.0.what would be my best way to get my vi to be 7.0?thank you so muchMessage Edited by krispiekream on 06-19-2008 03:59 PM
In order to go from LV 8.5 to LV 7, you will need to have LV 8.5 (save it back to 8.0), LV 8.0 (save it back to 7.1) and LV 7.1 (to save back to 7.0).
If it's only a few small VI's, you can post them on the forum and ask someone to do the saves for you. (Best if you do the save back to 8.0 and post that in order to eliminate 1 of the 3 steps for whoever will do the rest of the conversions for you.)
yeah. great.. i did all those steps.i went from 8.0 to 7.1i dont have labview 7.1 so i can't go to 7.0.can someone please help me.
Please try the attached to see if it works with LV7.0
Hopefully it does!!
thank you so much. i'll try it right now.
hi there,i somewhat got it to work.but i am having this error everytime i try to save it.does anyone know how i can get rid of it?<img src="http://forums.ni.com/attachments/ni/170/334653/1/untitled5.PNG"> Message Edited by krispiekream on 06-24-2008 06:02 PM
You might want to look into <a href=&...LabVIEW 8 run time
Am upgrading from 7.0 to 8. Is Run Time compiled with the .exe during
the build? Does Run Time install with the .exe on the target machine?
Are there any hoops to jump through during the build, or target
Instructions for 8 Run Time seem to be slim.
The run-time engine isn't really compiled with your built application since it's a separate program. You can, however, include the installer as part of your build so that when you deploy your application you will also distribute the run-time engine with it. From the LabVIEW documentation:
If you use the Applicati...Reference Objects in LabVIEW
Several attendees requested LabVIEW 8.5 data for the benchmarks I showed at my NI Week presentation - TS1284 - Reference Objects in LabVIEW. In addition, the severe performance degradation seen in Datasockets going from LabVIEW 7.1 to 8.2 was an artifact of my testing environment. I have fixed it and now actually see a performance improvement. I have updated the presentation and zipped it and the test code in the attachment below. I also tested in LabVIEW 8.5 with the following results, which can be compared to the presentation (same experimental setup).10,000 DBL read/write cyclesMode - Time (ms)Global - 7.6Single Process Shared Variable - 12.8Network Shared Variable - 1980Datasocket - 10700Configuration VI - 745Control Reference - 2440GOOP 1.0 - 2000LV2 Global - Semaphore - 294LV2 Global - Action Engine - 13.7Single Element Queue - 41.4Read of 1MByte BufferMode - Time (ms)
Global - 0.000300
Single Process Shared Variable - 0.000309
Network Shared Variable - 0.125
Datasocket - 7.05
Configuration VI - 168.0
Control Reference - 0.000726
GOOP 1.0 - 0.00538
LV2 Global - Semaphore - 0.00295
LV2 Global - Action Engine - 0.00161
Single Element Queue - 0.000314Performance is generally worse if launched from the project rather than opening the test VI directly. Note that the network shared variable must be used from a project.As expected, the network shared variable is much better. The global is 50% faster for scalars than i...Labview 8.5 application builder .exe does not run.The same source code runs ok.
Hi, I have an application built in labview 8.5 application builder using windows XP. I have one instrument connected in gpib and one connected to a serial port. The source code runs ok but when I build an executable of teh same code and try to run it, it doesnt run the instrument connected to the serial port. It does communicate with the gpib port. Any ideas why this would be happening?Steven
My first guess (and what happens to me too often) is that you didn't set the com port as a default in one of the controls, and it is defaulting elsewhere. If you freshly open the program (VI, not exe), then run it, without touching any controls, will it work? If you have to change any controls, do them after you hit run, as that is what the exe will see. It may give some insight.
Additional to Britoa's reply: Did you add the serial commuication (drivers) when you built the application?
if you use dynamic VIs (launched with VI sever) - you must make sure to include these VIs as dynamic dependencies
...Installing the 8.2.1 run time engine on a system with LabVIEW 8.2 installed
Note: This is a <a href="http://forums.lavag.org/index.php?showtopic=7942" target="_blank">cross-post to LAVA</a>. If I have a system with LabVIEW 8.2 installed and I upgrade only the
RTE to 8.2.1 (leaving LabVIEW 8.2 installed) will I run into any
problems?- Will applications that I build in LabVIEW 8.2 still run correctly?
RTE will applications that I build in 8.2 require? (I'm presuming that
the 8.2.1 RTE upgrade will not touch the lvapp.lib stub used by the app
builder and that apps built in 8.2 will run in the 8.2 RTE)
Here is what I (think I) know: - The
8.2.1 run time engine (RTE) is an upgrade to the 8.2 RTE, meaning that
the 8.2 and 8.2.1 RTEs cannot be installed at the same time.
built using LabVIEW 8.2 will run in the 8.2.1 RTE, however apps built
using LabVIEW 8.2.1 require the 8.2.1 RTE and will not run in the 8.2
Has anyone attempted this?Thanks,
Anything that we product that is X.X.X is mostly a bug fix release, and so you are correct in that it installs over X.X (your example 8.2.1 installs over 8.2 and so it is not possible to have them installed at the same time separately). It also means that there is a good chance that you can interchange VIs and projects without a problem, but it is not guaranteed.
This means that applications built in LV 8.2 can run using 8.2.1 RTE, and LV 8.2.1 applications can probably run with 8.2 RTE, but it is highly recommended to have the same ve...SPC Toolkit for LabVIEW
I started using SPC toolkit for a project in Labview 8.2.1, had no problem until I upgraded my system to labview 8.5. It said something like: Some subvis are too old to be converted to 8.5.I went to the Labview Developer suite CD album (labview 8.5), and couldn't find the SPC for LabVIEW, only for LabWindows / CVI. Then I went to NI's website and tried to find more about the toolkit, it seems this one had disappeared into thin air, along with the Enterprise connectivity toolkit (or Enterprice toolkit).Does anybody know if NI stopped developing / supporting the SPC toolkit? Or if NI included it into other toolkit or product?Thanks,-Joe
it could be that there are some vi�s from LV5. So i think if you save the vi�s which are to old to use with LV8.5 with 8.2.1 then it should work.
It is included with the DSC module in 8.5.
Got it! Thanks! -Joe
sorry for a silly question, but I tried to locate the LabVIEW DSC Module 8.5 in my Professional development environment and I cannot find it.
Would you please tell me which disk is it on?
It doesn't come with the pro version. As mentioned, it comes with the DSC which is an option for the Developer Suite or you can buy it separately.
I am sorry for confusion, I have full Developer Suite, Professinal Development System, inside 11 CDs.
Which one conta...How can I run a labview 7.2 vi in labview 8.2
We have several versions of labview running different test and control functions in our facility. There are labview 7.2 VIs in a production setting I wish to reproduce in the test lab. Can I convert them to run on 8.2 or do I have to recreate them in 8.2. I tried to open one in 8.2 and got multiple SubVI's that were not in my program library.. most dealing with AI manipulation.
And make sure you have backup copies of your 7.x code. Once you load and save in 8.2, it is a lot of work to get them back to 7.x.
Note I used 7.x because I am unaware of LabVIEW version 7.2 even existing. 7.1.1 was the last release prior to 8.0
...LabVIEW 8.5 Very Long Start-up Time
Things had been running fine, but now when I start LabVIEW it takes
approx four minutes for the program to load. I get past the first
splash screen, but at the start screen I get the hour-glass icon for
about four minutes. My CPU usage for LabVIEW goes to 50 (in Task
When the problem first started occurring I was programming a DLL
interface using the Shared Library Node, and I had crashed LabVIEW due
to a programming error in the DLL. I'm wondering what the
source is. I have the install discs for 8.5.1 and can do the upgrade,
but I'd like to know the source so I can fix the problem next time.
The crash could have probably caused internal error with the install. Was it a win32 exception or did LabVIEW return an error log file? I would recommend you to repair your LabVIEW install and then see if it still takes that long.
...I need convert LabVIEW 4.0 files to LabVIEW 8.5. Can it be done?
I am running LV8.5. I am upgrading and/or converting an old legacy system. All I have is the disk with the VIs from the old system. I do not have an older version of LV installed.
I can install all the way back to version 5.1. But I am concerned, can LV8.5 convert 5.1? The real question is what is the earliest version of LV that 8.5 will convert and will that version convert 4.0.1?
I have to imagine this has been done. With all the legacy systems going obsolete. This should be a common need.
Thanks for all of the responses. I have about 500+ VIs to convert. I would not be able to post them because of the nature of the projet but thanks for the suggestion. I have to imagine that someone in the office has 8.2 still floating around. I do not want to go back to 6 or 7. I will hunt for an older machine in the AM. Maybe a good job for an intern.
...Would a LabVIEW 8.5 Executable play nice with LabVIEW 7.1 Development on the Same System?
Our testing computer right now just has the user run the corresponding .vi file since we have LabVIEW 7.1 installed on the computer.
If I use 8.5 to compile this .vi to an executable, I realize that I must install the run-time support for 8.5. My question is what effect will installing the 8.5 run-time have on the ability to continue to run the other 7.1 VIs with LabVIEW 7.1.
Should I be concerned with losing MAX settings when installing the run-time support for 8.5? I want to be able to run 8.5 executables but also able to open up a 7.1 .vi file in LabVIEW 7.1 and run it that way also.
Thanks for your help! I have 8.5 on my system and the idea is to slowly replace the running of the .vi files with .exe files, I was just curious in case my .exe doesn't work I can still run the tests with .vi in the mean time.
Thanks for your help folks!
...LabVIEW 8.5 This is the application template and cannot be run alone
I'm trying to build an executable with the corresponding installer with LabVIEW 8.5.
The building process is OK but when I want to run my application (after installation of course), a popup window displays "This is the application template and cannot be run alone".
To solve this, I have to build it again, install it again and it works.
During the first building, LabVIEW asks me for a LabVIEW CD and during the second one, the CD is already present in the CD reader. This is the only difference I can found.
Does anyone had the same problem ?
- If I try to run my executable without LabVIEW Run-Time Engine, there is an error message saying clearly that the LabVIEW Run-Time Engine is not installed.
- I have to rebuild my executable 2 or 3 times and suddenly it works (a kind of magic).
- The problem is the executable itself. It has nothing to do with the installer.
Does anyone had the same problem ?
What is the solution (if any) ?
I'm getting the same dialog when I run my executable on the development machine (LabVIEW 8.5.1). So it's definitely not due to the absence of the run time engine. I rebuilt the executable, and it does the same thing. Any other ideas, Nick?
The EXE build should not run on any computer that does not have the run-time engines. However, an Installer has the option to add the Run Time Engine, and install it with your EXE. I think...labview 8.2 to 8.5?
I have an older version of labview (8.2) and wanted to know if i could update it to the current version without having to buy a whole new system.
Are you asking if there are additional costs to upgrading from LV8.2 to LV8.5?
If that is asking, the answer is yes. You can purchase a Standard Service Program (which is typically included for the first year), which means you automatically get upgrades.
The other option is to go to this link: <a href="http://www.ni.com/labview/" target="_blank">http://www.ni.com/labview/</a> and select upgrade. You then enter your serial number and it should tell you how much to upgrade to 8.5 and/or to a more complete version of LabVIEW.
A third alternative is to contact your local NI representative with whom you can discuss your LV sw / upgrade needs.
Here is the link to the SSP program: <a href="http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/13351" target="_blank">http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/13351</a>
Message Edited by JoeLabView on 07-31-2008 09:49 PM
...LabView 8.5 stops working with DAQmx with other software running
I have recently encountered a problem with LabView 8.5 while I run the software for a HighFinesse WS-7L wavelength meter (<a href="http://www.highfinesse.com/ws7.php" target="_blank">product page</a>). In my VI, I am writing a value to one analog out channel as well as two digital out lines. Every so often with the wavemeter software running, the writing does not occur, although I get no error message and the VI continues to run, seemingly waiting for the writing steps in the sequence to complete. The only way to get the VI working again is to quit and restart LabView. When I am not running the wavelength program, I don't encounter this problem. Has anyone else experienced this problem, and is there some workaround or explanation for it?
I don't have any experience using this hardware, but you mentioned that you are using DAQmx. How are you connecting to the WS-7L?
Also, have you confirmed the behavior that you describe in the VI by highlighting execution?
David, I am not actually interfacing with the WS-7L via LabView, but rather have a separate program running provided by the manufacturer. I ended up reinstalling LabView 8.5 this morning, since for some reason that seems to fix bizarre problems like this, and that seems to have done the trick. I really shouldn't have to resort to that, though, so if someone has a better explanation for what happens to require a reinstall, I'd be happy ...Slow response time with results while running Labview 8.2
I?m new at using Labview and have a quick question. I?m currently running a VI file with a sensor, and when the sensor is moved the reading on the front panel of the VI is slow to change value. Since the sensor will be moving rapidly, I need the reading on the front panel to change rapidly with the sensor.
What can I do to fix this? Is it something to do with the sample rate in the block diagram? It?s currently on 1.23, do I need to raise or lower it?
I?m at a loss here, so any help is appreciated.
In the block Diagram, the sample rate is the frequency that you are aquiring samples with. If you want to have datapoints faster, you must increase the Rate of Sample Clock.
Otherwise, it's important to have a quite high rate of sampling to be over the Nyquist Frequency. If you want, This link and the example may give more precisions about the Nyquist frequency and the advantage to have a quite high rate.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist%E2%80%93Shannon_sampling_theorem" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist%E2%80%93Shannon_sampling_theorem</a>
I've attached the VI and a snapshot of the Block Diagram. I've made the extension of the file .txt because it won't accept .vi for some reason... So if you open it, just cha...Convert from Labview 5.1 to 8.5
Can someone please convert these files from Labview 5.1 to 8.5?
Here it is.
Can someone please convert these files from 5.0.1 to 8.0 or higher?
Here they are as 7.1.
Here they are as 8.5
Can someone convert this to me, so i could use it with labview 8.5. some of those work now but some not
Hi valttih, they are saved for 7.1 now. It should be no problem to open them it 8.5Mike
...Relative time scale issue with the XY graph in LabVIEW 8.5.1
Hello all, I have found a problem that can be considered a bug in the XY graph in the latest release of LabVIEW, version 8.5.1.Here's the problem:For data logging, I use the XY graph to display temperatures as function of time. On the X-scale, in LabVIEW 8.5 the setting "relative time" worked well.When I use the XY graph in LV 8.5.1, I choose the same relative time setting for the X-axis, but for some reason the setting keeps going back to "absolute time", which is not suitable for my application. I have contacted NI in Holland and they encounter the same problem. Did any of you encounter the same problem? If so, did anyone find a workaround?Please let me knowKind RegardsRaymond van der HoogtMessage Edited by KoosKoets on 05-28-2008 10:15 AM
Hi! I've checked right now. I have the same symptom. Even if I try to update it programatically with a Property node (Format string to "%<%X>t" I get an error that says: "Invalid property value".I'm from Hungary anyway. (But I suspect we use the same English version of LabView)Regards,Peter Kovacs
Are you sure you're handling your x-axis data the same way between your 8.5 VI and your 8.5.1 VI? If I wire a time container to the x-axis value, I can never do relative time. However, if I subtract the current time from the start time, then relative works just fine. I have check 8.2.1, 8.5, and 8.5.1, and in my tests, all behave the same way. ...Is there any direct way to control external running program window with Labview 8.5
I have a application which I have to control through my LabVIEW program. LabVIEW program should be able to simulate & automate all the cotrols and data of externally running window. I suppose one of the method is to use Windows API using Call Library node in LabVIEW (which looks combursome). Can any expert suggest more efficient method/idea?
Thanks in advance.
...Re: LABVIEW 8.0 DATALOGGING RUN-TIME SYSTEM installation failure
Thank you for contacting National Instruments. Does the error give any more information about why the installation failed? Does it say the instance name is invalid or another version is already installed? There are several reasons this could happen. This error means that DSC could not install the Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine. Please take a look at this <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;317268" target="_blank">Microsoft Knowledge Base article</a> that describes several symptoms and workarounds to see if this is useful. Any more information you can provide about the specific error message would be helpful in troubleshooting this issue.