[xposted to some groups tholen has posted to recently]

I was on a Quake 1 CTF server this morning (yes, there really are still 
such things), and decided to sit out one game as a spectator (as I was 
having lunch at the time), parking myself over the blue flag as the 
particular map that had come up in the rotation tended to have its most 
intense fighting in the flag rooms.

Guess who showed up within about five minutes.

When I noticed the name, at first I thought it was a coincidence. Then 
this happened:

tholen eats zlata?'s pineapple
$19.95 chewed on Hydro's boomstick
zlata?: hehehe! what -- a -- MESS! hehe!
tholen: What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have 
to do with OS/2, Zlata?

Needless to say, when I saw that last message go up I did a spit-take.

Then I had the presence of mind to drop the console down and take a 
screenshot before newer messages shoved this exchange off the top of the 
console buffer:

http://turboimg.com/p/wjo1299269787c.jpg

Fascinated, I left the console down and watched for more messages from 
tholen. I eventually took these ten additional screenshots:

http://turboimg.com/p/epl1299269825z.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/aur1299269844b.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/keh1299269862c.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/yke1299269878z.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/wjo1299269892q.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/keh1299269911k.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/jef1299269926n.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/aur1299269940t.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/jef1299269961v.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/xnk1299269978e.jpg

These screenshots are genuine and completely unaltered, save that I 
boosted the contrast of certain areas to make tholen's actions, messages, 
and deaths stand out, along with one or two other events apparently 
relevant to subsequent tholen utterances.

Besides another "classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim", there are 
some "classic illogic"s, a "classic ambiguity", "suffering from lag?", 
"still suffering from shrapnel woulds?" (after grenading someone), and of 
course "who is tholenbot, 1995? There is nobody on this server using that 
alias".

My personal favorite? Hard to be sure, but I'd say the top 4 are 
definitely

What does this utter bedlam have to do with OS/2? (during some 
particularly heavy fighting)

Classic illogic. Flags should be better defended than this. (immediately 
after picking up the red flag)

What does your psychotic attack have to do with OS/2, MilkDud? (after 
being killed by axe+grappling hook combo by a player named MilkDud who 
had run out of ammo and was desperate)

Who is "evildoer", Darkwing Duck? There is nobody on this server using 
that alias. (after being fragged by a player using said name, who had 
proceeded to utter the comic book character's catchphrase "Suck gas, 
evildoer!" The same player also at one point proclaimed himself to be 
"the packet loss in the network of evil", among other themed witticisms.)

He also asked what various flag takings and captures had to do with OS/2, 
and when the capture limit was hit and the map changed again, "What does 
ctf2m1 have to do with OS/2?" By that time, I was done my lunch so I 
joined the team tholen wasn't on and proceeded to rip him a new one a few 
times. I got asked several times what my classic misguided attacks had to 
do with OS/2. :)

FWIW, tholen doesn't actually seem to be a particularly bad player. He 
got his share of frags (though, never me) and even captured once. ("What 
does that fanfare have to do with OS/2?" a moment later, natch.)

On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:46:45 +0100, Ken Wesson wrote:

> [xposted to some groups tholen has posted to recently]
> 
> Who is "evildoer", Darkwing Duck? There is nobody on this server using
> that alias. (after being fragged by a player using said name, who had
> proceeded to utter the comic book character's catchphrase "Suck gas,
> evildoer!" The same player also at one point proclaimed himself to be
> "the packet loss in the network of evil", among other themed
> witticisms.)

Whoa. While digging into more of the screenshots I took, I found one with 
the "network of evil" remark and also this gem from tholen:

What does your picking up of our flag have to do with OS/2, Corpse 
Grinder?

Here it is:

http://turboimg.com/p/yke1299272526n.jpg

The interesting thing is, tholen seems to understand the game and how it 
is played. He isn't particularly confused by the mechanics, scoring 
rules, or anything. He knows what he's supposed to do with the flag, and 
that it should be defended. He's intelligent about going after ammo and 
runes and he protects his health. And he's constantly wondering aloud 
what all of it has to do with OS/2.

And most of the other players call him things like "tholoon" and 
"tholenbot" and "thingamabob", just like they do in the newsgroups and 
resulting in similar responses.

Go figure.

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

5> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

5> [xposted to some groups tholen has posted to recently]

What does your need to troll in five different newsgroups have to
do with OS/2, Wesson?

5> I was on a Quake 1 CTF server this morning (yes, there really are
still
5> such things), and decided to sit out one game as a spectator (as I
was
5> having lunch at the time), parking myself over the blue flag as
the
5> particular map that had come up in the rotation tended to have its
most
5> intense fighting in the flag rooms.

What does your gaming have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

5> Guess who showed up within about five minutes.

What does your request have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

5> When I noticed the name, at first I thought it was a coincidence.

What does the correctness of your first thought have to do with OS/2,
Wesson?

5> Then this happened:

5> Needless to say, when I saw that last message go up I did a spit-
take.

Do non sequiturs often have that effect on you, Wesson?

5> Then I had the presence of mind to drop the console down and take
a
5> screenshot before newer messages shoved this exchange off the top
of the
5> console buffer:

What do any of those exchanges have to do with amateur radio policy,
Wesson?

5> Fascinated, I left the console down and watched for more messages
from
5> tholen. I eventually took these ten additional screenshots:

Did any of those have anything to do with amateur radio policy,
Wesson?

5> These screenshots are genuine and completely unaltered, save that
I
5> boosted the contrast of certain areas to make tholen's actions,
messages,
5> and deaths stand out, along with one or two other events
apparently
5> relevant to subsequent tholen utterances.

Classic contradiction.

5> Besides another "classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim",
there are
5> some "classic illogic"s, a "classic ambiguity", "suffering from
lag?",
5> "still suffering from shrapnel woulds?" (after grenading someone),
and of
5> course "who is tholenbot, 1995? There is nobody on this server
using that
5> alias".

It's been said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery,
Wesson.  Are you upset that you weren't the one being flattered?

5> My personal favorite? Hard to be sure, but I'd say the top 4 are
5> definitely

What does your question have to do with amateur radio policy, Wesson?

5> He also asked what various flag takings and captures had to do with
OS/2,
5> and when the capture limit was hit and the map changed again, "What
does
5> ctf2m1 have to do with OS/2?" By that time, I was done my lunch so
I
5> joined the team tholen wasn't on and proceeded to rip him a new one
a few
5> times. I got asked several times what my classic misguided attacks
had to
5> do with OS/2. :)

On what basis do you claim that the correspondent is a "he", Wesson?

5> FWIW, tholen doesn't actually seem to be a particularly bad player.
He
5> got his share of frags (though, never me) and even captured once.
("What
5> does that fanfare have to do with OS/2?" a moment later, natch.)

You've flattered someone, Wesson, but not me.

6> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

6> Whoa. While digging into more of the screenshots I took, I found
one with
6> the "network of evil" remark and also this gem from tholen:

Do you often find it necessary to respond to yourself, Wesson?

6> Here it is:

Still responding to yourself, eh Wesson?

6> The interesting thing is, tholen seems to understand the game and
how it
6> is played. He isn't particularly confused by the mechanics,
scoring
6> rules, or anything. He knows what he's supposed to do with the
flag, and
6> that it should be defended. He's intelligent about going after ammo
and
6> runes and he protects his health.

Why do you find that so interesting, Wesson?

5> And he's constantly wondering aloud
6> what all of it has to do with OS/2.

From that do you conclude that gamers have non sequitur problems,
Wesson?  Do you conclude that the newsgroup posters with non sequitur
problems are gamers?

6> And most of the other players call him things like "tholoon" and
6> "tholenbot" and "thingamabob", just like they do in the newsgroups
and
6> resulting in similar responses.

From that do you conclude that gamers have attribution problems,
Wesson?  Do you conclude that the newsgroup posters with attribution
problems are gamers?

6> Go figure.

What does your suggestion have to do with amateur radio policy,
Wesson?

HERE'S A TIP FOR BOTH OF YOU ASSWIPES.

BOTH OF YOU ASSWIPES NEED TO KEEP YOUR SISSIFIED NON HAM RELATED
BULLSHIT OUT OF RRAP.

Dennis Horace <n1qro.a1op@gmail.com> writes:

1> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

1> HERE'S A TIP FOR BOTH OF YOU ASSWIPES.

Who is "ASSWIPES", Horace?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.  And what does your tip have to do with OS/2,
Horace?  And why are you shouting, Horace?

1> BOTH OF YOU ASSWIPES NEED TO KEEP YOUR SISSIFIED NON HAM RELATED
1> BULLSHIT OUT OF RRAP.

Who is "ASSWIPES", Horace?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.  Ironically, you didn't keep your sissified
non-OS/2 related bullshit out of comp.os.os2.advocacy, Horace.
And why are you shouting, Horace?

If you have a problem with this thread, Horace, take it up
with Ken Wesson, who started the thread and chose the newsgroups
in which it appeared.

On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 14:41:08 -0800, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 5> [xposted to some groups tholen has posted to recently]
> 
> What does your need to troll in five different newsgroups have to do
> with OS/2, Wesson?

It's eexactly as trollish as your posts to thosee newsgroups, tholeen.

(Just to recap, for those of you who missed the first installment and 
since tholen is constitutionally incapable of quoting more than one level 
deep: I bumped into tholen on a quake 1 CTF server the other day and took 
screenshots. Amusingly, he's a reasonably proficient player, but peppers 
the message log with assorted questions of a very familiar sort for the 
entire game -- quite long ones, too, so I'm pretty sure he's got some 
macros he's spamming. Unless, of course, he's a bot.

http://turboimg.com/p/wjo1299269787c.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/epl1299269825z.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/aur1299269844b.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/keh1299269862c.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/yke1299269878z.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/wjo1299269892q.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/keh1299269911k.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/jef1299269926n.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/aur1299269940t.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/jef1299269961v.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/xnk1299269978e.jpg
http://turboimg.com/p/yke1299272526n.jpg

Enjoy!)

> 5> I was on a Quake 1 CTF server this morning (yes, there really are
> still
> 5> such things), and decided to sit out one game as a spectator (as I
> was
> 5> having lunch at the time), parking myself over the blue flag as the
> 5> particular map that had come up in the rotation tended to have its
> most
> 5> intense fighting in the flag rooms.
> 
> What does your gaming have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

It's your gaming as well, both last Friday and again a few minutes ago on 
the same server where you showed up and joined the team I was on about 
1/4 of the way through the game.

By the way, sorry about that rocket a few minutes ago. Oh, for the 
benefit of everyone else reading this, here's an excerpt from my console 
log of the game:

kwickie defends BLUE's flag carrier against an aggressive enemy
Spock rides kwickie's rocket
Black Flag: no can do undertaker
kwickie defends BLUE's flag carrier against an aggressive enemy
KillCreek was gibbed by kwickie's rocket
tholen visits the Volcano God
tholen lost the RED flag!
The RED flag has been returned
terminator got the RED flag!

That damn reactor room in ctf2m1 is such a pain that way. :) Maybe if 
you'd grappled yourself to the wall (or up and out towards blue base!) as 
soon as the shrapnel started flying ... but what's done is done, and we 
won 5-0 anyway when you capped a few minutes later after terminator got 
terminated on his attempt.

I must say your reaction was quite mild, and rather amusing:

tholen: What does this place's classic failure to be OSHA compliant have 
to do with OS/2?

Especially compared to this, earlier, when you and troy walked into the 
same teleporter in blue base at the same time:

tholen was telefragged by troy
troy was telefragged by tholen
troy lost the RED flag!
tholen: What does your murder of a teammate have to do with OS/2, troy?
troy: MOTHERFUCKER!!

Heck, you weren't even the one carrying the flag that time (and troy 
respawned close by, grabbed the flag again, and capped, so no biggie for 
him either despite his initial reaction) and it was certainly more 
accidental than my rocket shoving you into that lava. ;)

It's also nice of the server admin to run that mod that auto-respawns the 
flag immediately if it falls in lava. Otherwise it would have been 
sitting down there for ten minutes while we all got bored playing plain 
old deathmatch. Maybe I'd have even been more careful where I aimed my 
rockets if we'd been on another server. ;)

> 5> When I noticed the name, at first I thought it was a coincidence.
> 
> What does the correctness of your first thought have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

Correctness? But it *wasn't* coincidence, unless there are *twoo* people 
running around out there called "tholen" that constantly ask what various 
things have to do with OOS/2.

> 5> Then this happened:
> 
> 5> Needless to say, when I saw that last message go up I did a spit-
> take.
> 
> Do non sequiturs often have that effect on you, Wesson?

Yoours have been known too do so froom time to time, thoolen.

> 5> Then I had the presence of mind to drop the console down and take a
> 5> screenshot before newer messages shoved this exchange off the top of
> the
> 5> console buffer:
> 
> What do any of those exchanges have to do with amateur radio policy,
> Wesson?

As much as most of your posts to rec.radio.amateeur.policy do, thooleen. 
Oh, soorry, some of the vowel keys on my keyboard seem to be getting 
stuck, and the deleete key doesn't work. Bear with me during these trying 
timees. :)

> 5> These screenshots are genuine and completely unaltered, save that I
> 5> boosted the contrast of certain areas to make tholen's actions,
> messages,
> 5> and deaths stand out, along with one or two other events apparently
> 5> relevant to subsequent tholen utterances.
> 
> Classic contradiction.

Hoow so?

> 5> Besides another "classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim", there
> are
> 5> some "classic illogic"s, a "classic ambiguity", "suffering from
> lag?",
> 5> "still suffering from shrapnel woulds?" (after grenading someone),
> and of
> 5> course "who is tholenbot, 1995? There is nobody on this server using
> that
> 5> alias".
> 
> It's been said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Wesson.
>  Are you upset that you weren't the one being flattered?

Are you genuinely cllaiming that someone else is out there imitating your 
inimitable style? ;)

> 5> He also asked what various flag takings and captures had to do with
> OS/2,
> 5> and when the capture limit was hit and the map changed again, "What
> does
> 5> ctf2m1 have to do with OS/2?" By that time, I was done my lunch so I
> 5> joined the team tholen wasn't on and proceeded to rip him a new one a
> few
> 5> times. I got asked several times what my classic misguided attacks
> had to
> 5> do with OS/2. :)
> 
> On what basis do you claim that the correspondent is a "he", Wesson?

Welll, he was you, and you appear to be a he. Dr. David J. Tholen, lllate 
of some astronomy institute or another, was it not, thollen?

Oh, damn, now my "ll" keeey is sticking too!

> 5> FWIW, tholen doesn't actually seem to be a particularly bad player.
> He
> 5> got his share of frags (though, never me) and even captured once.
> ("What
> 5> does that fanfare have to do with OS/2?" a moment later, natch.)
> 
> You've flattered someone, Wesson, but not me.

I don't think you have anything to be especially ashamed or embarrassed 
about. You captured twice in tonight's game, two times more than the 
entire red team, who, mind you, seemed to spend most of their time 
fumbling with their shoelaces and tripping over their own grenades. ;) 
When they weren't too busy typing out taunts like "no can do undertaker" 
to play the game properly (and getting pineappled in the face for their 
efforts, of course -- that's always what I do when I suspect a player's 
typing, a grenade to the face, wakes them up right quick. Especially if 
they are on the other team so they actually take damage.)

> 6> The interesting thing is, tholen seems to understand the game and how
> it
> 6> is played. He isn't particularly confused by the mechanics, scoring
> 6> rules, or anything. He knows what he's supposed to do with the flag,
> and
> 6> that it should be defended. He's intelligent about going after ammo
> and
> 6> runes and he protects his health.
> 
> Why do you find that so interesting, Wesson?

It givees some insight into your disordeer, tholeen. (Damn "e" key!) I 
think it might be a form of OCD, or maybe even Tourette's. (The common 
public perception of Tourette's is that it makes you blurt out nasty 
swear words, like troy did when you telefragged him earlier. But actually 
it quite commonly manifests as other physical and verbal tics, and "what 
does X have to do with OS/2?" is certainly no less plausible a verbal tic 
than some others. Not to mention "who is 'tholeen', Wesson? There is 
nobody in this newsgroup using that alias." ;))

> 5> And he's constantly wondering aloud 6> what all of it has to do with
> OS/2.
> 
> From that do you conclude that gamers have non sequitur problems,
> Wesson?

Noot gamers in general. Just you, thoolen.

> Do you conclude that the newsgroup posters with non sequitur
> problems are gamers?

One of them is, theelon.

(Aww, crap-dammit!)

Another couple of amusing exchanges:

tholen chewed on terminator's boomstick
terminator: astalavista, baby
tholen: Who is "baby", terminator? There is nobody on this server using 
that alias.

Someone obviously fancies himself a T2 fan.

And then this:

tholen captured the RED flag!
KillCreek: dammit
troy: way to go tholenbot!
tholen: Who is "tholenbot", troy? There is nobody on this server using 
that alias.

And this:

Spock rides tholen's rocket.
tholen: Suffering from blast wounds, Spock?
klepto rides kwickie's rocket.
troy got the RED flag!
klepto: dammit
KillCreek: defense?
Spock: That is illogical, Tholen.
crOoKed crOoK was gibbed by kwickie's grenade
tholen: What does your illogical failure to protect yourself have to do 
with OS/2, Spock?
crOoKed crOoK: ow
kwickie ate 2 loads klepto's buckshot
klepto: payback's a bitch kwickie
Spock: Tholen, if I were human, I believe my response would be "go to 
hell". If I were human.
klepto chewed on kwickie's boomstick
KillCreek accepts kwickie's shaft
klepto accepts kwickie's shaft
tholen: What does your classic pontification have to do with OS/2, Spock?

That's what, five messages total in your little argument? And given Spock 
is spoouting long, grammatically well-formed, capitalized sentences half 
of which are movie lines from The Undiscoovered Country, I'm guessing you 
were arguing with a bot, thoolen.

Perhaps you both were.

On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 18:20:35 -0800, Dennis Horace wrote:

> HERE'S A TIP FOR BOTH OF YOU ASSWIPES.
> 
> BOTH OF YOU ASSWIPES NEED TO KEEP YOUR SISSIFIED NON HAM RELATED
> BULLSHIT OUT OF RRAP.

Oh, pardon me -- I thought anything that might give new insights 
regarding these groups' most notorious, er, member would be of interest 
to their general population.

<kb9rqz> wrote:
>On Mar 3, 4:39=A0pm, Ken Wesson <kb9rqz@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 2011 08:40:55 -0400,  <kb9rqz>  wrote:
> > HERE'S A TIP FOR BOTH OF YOU ASSWIPES.
>
> > BOTH OF YOU ASSWIPES NEED TO KEEP YOUR SISSIFIED NON HAM RELATED
> > BULLSHIT OUT OF RRAP.
>
> Oh, pardon me -- I thought anything that might give new insights

Pardon you? How 'bout fuck you.

> regarding these groups' most notorious, er, member would be of interest
> to their general population.

Now see here, Wesson!

How DARE you address Tholen like that !!!!!???????

On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:02:55 -0800, Kb9rqz wrote:

> <kb9rqz> wrote:
>>On Mar 3, 4:39 pm, Ken Wesson <kb9rqz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 2011 08:40:55 -0400,  <kb9rqz>  wrote:
>> > HERE'S A TIP FOR BOTH OF YOU ASSWIPES.
>>
>> > BOTH OF YOU ASSWIPES NEED TO KEEP YOUR SISSIFIED NON HAM RELATED
>> > BULLSHIT OUT OF RRAP.
>>
>> Oh, pardon me -- I thought anything that might give new insights
> 
> Pardon you? How 'bout fuck you.
> 
>> regarding these groups' most notorious, er, member would be of interest
>> to their general population.
> 
> Now see here, Wesson!
> 
> How DARE you address Tholen like that !!!!!???????

What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz? ;)

On Mar 4, 3:46=A0pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://turboimg.com/p/wjo1299269787c.jpg
> http://turboimg.com/p/epl1299269825z.jpg
> http://turboimg.com/p/aur1299269844b.jpg
> http://turboimg.com/p/keh1299269862c.jpg
> http://turboimg.com/p/yke1299269878z.jpg
> http://turboimg.com/p/wjo1299269892q.jpg
> http://turboimg.com/p/keh1299269911k.jpg
> http://turboimg.com/p/jef1299269926n.jpg
> http://turboimg.com/p/aur1299269940t.jpg
> http://turboimg.com/p/jef1299269961v.jpg
> http://turboimg.com/p/xnk1299269978e.jpg
> http://turboimg.com/p/yke1299272526n.jpg

That server is running bots. I recognize them. It looks like the
CTFBOT mod for Quake 1, but it's been further modified. I don't
remember the bot chatter being anywhere near that varied, and there
certainly wasn't a tholenbot among them.

Besides, human players don't produce such lengthy messages in the
middle of a violent twitch-reflex game, unless it's by voice. Some of
the stuff there, like MilkDud's repeated quip "Yummy, aren't they?
Must be, they keep coming back for more", could be a human player
spamming a macro, but the long messages naming specific players seem
unlikely to be generated by anything as simple as a console alias.
Maybe if there's a source port out there that lets you do stuff like
"say Hey, %v, looks like you forgot to take the safety off" to refer
to the last player you fragged -- but then, the names are often not
capitalized and sometimes misspelt. Someone put a lot of effort into
making the chat look real, except for the whole length thing.

I think the real question here though is, how did a modified CTFBOT
get loose on usenet and start haunting comp.os.os2.advocacy and other
newsgroups? And who is to be held responsible for the resulting mess?
I didn't even think you could implement an NNTP client in QuakeC, but
I've been surprised before, especially where the more advanced source
ports like DarkPlaces are concerned. (Speaking of which, Ken ...
Fitzquake 0.80? WTH?)

Say, I wonder if there's a port of the quake engine to OS/2?

Anyway, if you'll excuse me, I think I'll go boot up my older machine
with Quake 1 and go ogle the CTFBOT female player model a bit. I'd
forgotten she looked that good, and wore that little. :)

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com>

7> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

7> It's eexactly as trollish as your posts to thosee newsgroups,
tholeen.

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

7> (Just to recap, for those of you who missed the first installment
and
7> since tholen is constitutionally incapable of quoting more than one
level
7> deep:

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have
to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> I bumped into tholen on a quake 1 CTF server the other day and
took
7> screenshots.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

7> Amusingly, he's a reasonably proficient player, but peppers
7> the message log with assorted questions of a very familiar sort for
the
7> entire game -- quite long ones, too, so I'm pretty sure he's got
some
7> macros he's spamming. Unless, of course, he's a bot.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

7> Enjoy!)

What does that have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> It's your gaming as well,

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have
to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> both last Friday and again a few minutes ago on
7> the same server where you showed up and joined the team I was on
about
7> 1/4 of the way through the game.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have
to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> By the way, sorry about that rocket a few minutes ago.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have
to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> Oh, for the
7> benefit of everyone else reading this, here's an excerpt from my
console
7> log of the game:

What does your console log have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> That damn reactor room in ctf2m1 is such a pain that way. :) Maybe
if
7> you'd grappled yourself to the wall (or up and out towards blue
base!) as
7> soon as the shrapnel started flying ... but what's done is done,
and we
7> won 5-0 anyway when you capped a few minutes later after terminator
got
7> terminated on his attempt.

What does some reactor room have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> I must say your reaction was quite mild, and rather amusing:

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

7> Especially compared to this, earlier, when you and troy walked into
the
7> same teleporter in blue base at the same time:

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

7> Heck, you weren't even the one carrying the flag that time (and
troy
7> respawned close by, grabbed the flag again, and capped, so no
biggie for
7> him either despite his initial reaction) and it was certainly more
7> accidental than my rocket shoving you into that lava. ;)

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

7> It's also nice of the server admin to run that mod that auto-
respawns the
7> flag immediately if it falls in lava. Otherwise it would have been
7> sitting down there for ten minutes while we all got bored playing
plain
7> old deathmatch. Maybe I'd have even been more careful where I aimed
my
7> rockets if we'd been on another server. ;)

What do your rockets have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> Correctness?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> But it *wasn't* coincidence, unless there are *twoo* people
7> running around out there called "tholen" that constantly ask what
various
7> things have to do with OOS/2.

At least that many, Wesson, assuming, of course, that you meant
"two" instead of "twoo".

7> Yoours have been known too do so froom time to time, thoolen.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

7> As much as most of your posts to rec.radio.amateeur.policy do,
thooleen.

Who is "thooleen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

7> Oh, soorry, some of the vowel keys on my keyboard seem to be
getting
7> stuck, and the deleete key doesn't work. Bear with me during these
trying
7> timees. :)

What do your keyboard problems have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> Hoow so?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> Are you genuinely cllaiming that someone else is out there
imitating your
7> inimitable style? ;)

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> Welll, he was you,

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have
to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> and you appear to be a he.

What does your presupposition have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> Dr. David J. Tholen, lllate
7> of some astronomy institute or another, was it not, thollen?

Who is "thollen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

7> Oh, damn, now my "ll" keeey is sticking too!

What do your keyboard problems have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> I don't think you have anything to be especially ashamed or
embarrassed
7> about.

What you think is irrelevant, Wesson.  You're the one who should be
embarrassed by all of your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous
claims and classic erroneous presuppositions.

7> You captured twice in tonight's game, two times more than the
7> entire red team, who, mind you, seemed to spend most of their time
7> fumbling with their shoelaces and tripping over their own
grenades. ;)

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

7> When they weren't too busy typing out taunts like "no can do
undertaker"
7> to play the game properly (and getting pineappled in the face for
their
7> efforts, of course -- that's always what I do when I suspect a
player's
7> typing, a grenade to the face, wakes them up right quick.
Especially if
7> they are on the other team so they actually take damage.)

What does your game have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> It givees some insight into your disordeer, tholeen.

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

7> (Damn "e" key!) I
7> think it might be a form of OCD, or maybe even Tourette's.

What does your OCD or Tourette's have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> (The common
7> public perception of Tourette's is that it makes you blurt out
nasty
7> swear words, like troy did when you telefragged him earlier.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

7> But actually
7> it quite commonly manifests as other physical and verbal tics, and
"what
7> does X have to do with OS/2?" is certainly no less plausible a
verbal tic
7> than some others.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

7> Not to mention "who is 'tholeen', Wesson? There is
7> nobody in this newsgroup using that alias." ;))

What do your verbal tics have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> Noot gamers in general. Just you, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

7> One of them is, theelon.

Who is "theelon", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

7> (Aww, crap-dammit!)

What does that have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> Another couple of amusing exchanges:

What does your amusement have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> Someone obviously fancies himself a T2 fan.

What does your fancy have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> And then this:

What does that have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> And this:

What does that have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

7> That's what, five messages total in your little argument?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

7> And given Spock
7> is spoouting long, grammatically well-formed, capitalized sentences
half
7> of which are movie lines from The Undiscoovered Country, I'm
guessing you
7> were arguing with a bot, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

7> Perhaps you both were.

Perhaps not, Wesson.

8> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

8> Oh, pardon me -- I thought anything that might give new insights
8> regarding these groups' most notorious, er, member would be of
interest
8> to their general population.

What does your notoriety have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

9> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

9> What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz? ;)

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

Nebulous <nebulous99@gmail.com> writes:

21> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

21> That server is running bots. I recognize them. It looks like the
21> CTFBOT mod for Quake 1, but it's been further modified. I don't
21> remember the bot chatter being anywhere near that varied, and
there
21> certainly wasn't a tholenbot among them.

What does your memory have to do with OS/2, Nebulous?

21> Besides, human players don't produce such lengthy messages in the
21> middle of a violent twitch-reflex game, unless it's by voice. Some
of
21> the stuff there, like MilkDud's repeated quip "Yummy, aren't they?
21> Must be, they keep coming back for more", could be a human player
21> spamming a macro, but the long messages naming specific players
seem
21> unlikely to be generated by anything as simple as a console alias.
21> Maybe if there's a source port out there that lets you do stuff
like
21> "say Hey, %v, looks like you forgot to take the safety off" to
refer
21> to the last player you fragged -- but then, the names are often
not
21> capitalized and sometimes misspelt. Someone put a lot of effort
into
21> making the chat look real, except for the whole length thing.

What does your effort into your posting have to do with
OS/2, Nebulous?

21> I think the real question here though is, how did a modified
CTFBOT
21> get loose on usenet and start haunting comp.os.os2.advocacy and
other
21> newsgroups? And who is to be held responsible for the resulting
mess?
21> I didn't even think you could implement an NNTP client in QuakeC,
but
21> I've been surprised before, especially where the more advanced
source
21> ports like DarkPlaces are concerned. (Speaking of which, Ken ...
21> Fitzquake 0.80? WTH?)

Are you suggesting that Wesson, or Harbl, or the myriad Harrison
aliases are CTFBOTs, Nebulous?  Perhaps even you?

21> Say, I wonder if there's a port of the quake engine to OS/2?

Why don't you ask your question in comp.os.os2.games, Nebulous?

21> Anyway, if you'll excuse me, I think I'll go boot up my older
machine
21> with Quake 1 and go ogle the CTFBOT female player model a bit. I'd
21> forgotten she looked that good, and wore that little. :)

What does your thought have to do with OS/2, Nebulous?

Kb9rqz <MarkyMor.Goonie@yahoo.com> writes:

214> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

214> Pardon you?

What does your question of Wesson have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz?

214> How 'bout fuck you.

What does your foul language have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz?

214> Now see here, Wesson!

What does your command to Wesson have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz?

214> How DARE you address Tholen like that !!!!!???????

What does your question of Wesson have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz?

>On Mar 5, 6:18=A0am, "tholen@kb9rqz.cum" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote:
> Kb9rqz <kb9rqz@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> 214> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radi=
o.=ADamateur.policy
>
> 214> Pardon you?
>
> What does your question of Wesson have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz?
>
> 214> How 'bout fuck you.
>
> What does your foul language have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz?
>
> 214> Now see here, Wesson!
>
> What does your command to Wesson have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz?
>
> 214> How DARE you address Tholen like that !!!!!???????
>
> What does your question of Wesson have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz?

nothing you snibbling faggot!
there.
now give me head.

On Mar 18, 6:00=A0pm, Marky <markie.moorg...@live.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 5, 6:18=A0am, "tho...@kb9rqz.cum" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote:
> > Kb9rqz <kb9...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> > 214> Newsgroups:
> > comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.ra=
dio.=AD=ADamateur.policy
>
> > 214> Pardon you?
>
> > What does your question of Wesson have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz?
>
> > 214> How 'bout fuck you.
>
> > What does your foul language have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz?
>
> > 214> Now see here, Wesson!
>
> > What does your command to Wesson have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz?
>
> > 214> How DARE you address Tholen like that !!!!!???????
>
> > What does your question of Wesson have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz?
>
> nothing you snibbling faggot!
> there.
> now give me head.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:50:58 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> 7> (Just to recap, for those of you who missed the first installment and
> 7> since tholen is constitutionally incapable of quoting more than one
> level
> 7> deep:
> 
> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> with OS/2, Wesson?

Do you deny, then, that your posts only contain one level of quotation? 
Please post the message-ID of a post you made in the past three months 
that quotes at least two levels deep. (The time limit is because that's 
my server's retention in most groups and Google message-ID search is 
hopelessly broken these days.)

> 7> I bumped into tholen on a quake 1 CTF server the other day and took
> 7> screenshots.
> 
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

What erroneous presupposition are you talking about? I posted links to 
the goddamn screenshots. Are you honestly claiming that they don't exist?

> 7> Amusingly, he's a reasonably proficient player, but peppers 7> the
> message log with assorted questions of a very familiar sort for the
> 7> entire game -- quite long ones, too, so I'm pretty sure he's got some
> 7> macros he's spamming. Unless, of course, he's a bot.
> 
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

I didn't presuppose that you were a bot. I merely considered the 
possibility. Susan Calvin is the one who accused you point blank of being 
a bot.

With that name, I suppose she is an expert on such matters though.

> 7> It's your gaming as well,
> 
> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> with OS/2, Wesson?

Are you honestly asking me to believe there are *two* people out there 
who call themselves "tholen" and constantly ask "what does X have to do 
with OS/2"?

> 7> both last Friday and again a few minutes ago on 7> the same server
> where you showed up and joined the team I was on about
> 7> 1/4 of the way through the game.
> 
> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> with OS/2, Wesson?

OK, maybe it was closer to 2/5 of the way through. I wasn't exactly 
keeping precise timing logs with a stopwatch, and console transcript 
entries don't have timestamps. So sue me!

> 7> By the way, sorry about that rocket a few minutes ago.
> 
> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> with OS/2, Wesson?

What's erroneous about it? I genuinely was sorry! That was the other 
team's flag you were halfway home with, after all.

> 7> I must say your reaction was quite mild, and rather amusing:
> 
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

What? I did, too, find it amusing!

> 7> Especially compared to this, earlier, when you and troy walked into
> the
> 7> same teleporter in blue base at the same time:
> 
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

Nothing erroneous about it. You don't get mutual telefrags like that from 
spawnfragging, only from teleporting to the same place at the same time. 
Besides, your bloody remains (and the flag!) were lying right in front of 
one of the fucking teleporters in blue base, and nowhere near any of the 
map's deathmatch respawns.

> 7> Heck, you weren't even the one carrying the flag that time (and troy
> 7> respawned close by, grabbed the flag again, and capped, so no biggie
> for
> 7> him either despite his initial reaction) and it was certainly more 7>
> accidental than my rocket shoving you into that lava. ;)
> 
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

Keep tempting me like that and I might have another mishap with the 
rocket launcher. Maybe it'll be near one of ctf2m3's slime pools next 
time. That'd give you a fighting chance.

> 7> But it *wasn't* coincidence, unless there are *twoo* people 7>
> running around out there called "tholen" that constantly ask what
> various
> 7> things have to do with OOS/2.
> 
> At least that many, Wesson, assuming, of course, that you meant "two"
> instead of "twoo".

Prove it. I flatly refuse to believe such an extraordinary claim without 
evidence.

> 7> Yoours have been known too do so froom time to time, thoolen.
> 
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

Huh. I thought for sure you'd ask "who is 'thoolen', Wesson?" at this 
point. Maybe Susan's wrong about you.

> 7> As much as most of your posts to rec.radio.amateeur.policy do,
> thooleen.
> 
> Who is "thooleen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
> alias.

Sorry. I told you some of my keys were sticking and delete didn't work. 
You'll be glad to know that I've since replaced that shoddy old keyboard.

> 7> Welll, he was you,
> 
> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> with OS/2, Wesson?

Are you saying you're *not* you?

That doesn't even make sense, thoolen.

Oh, no! It's happpening agaain!

> 7> I don't think you have anything to be especially ashamed or
> embarrassed
> 7> about.
> 
> What you think is irrelevant, Wesson.  You're the one who should be
> embarrassed by all of your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claims
> and classic erroneous presuppositions.

All zero of them? But, but ... but why?

> 7> You captured twice in tonight's game, two times more than the 7>
> entire red team, who, mind you, seemed to spend most of their time 7>
> fumbling with their shoelaces and tripping over their own grenades. ;)
> 
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

Perhaps I misread something, but I could have sworn the computer said 
"tholen captured the RED flag!" on two separate occasions during that 
game.

> 7> When they weren't too busy typing out taunts like "no can do
> undertaker"
> 7> to play the game properly (and getting pineappled in the face for
> their
> 7> efforts, of course -- that's always what I do when I suspect a
> player's
> 7> typing, a grenade to the face, wakes them up right quick. Especially
> if
> 7> they are on the other team so they actually take damage.)
> 
> What does your game have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

Your game, too, thollen.

> 7> (Damn "e" key!) I
> 7> think it might be a form of OCD, or maybe even Tourette's.
> 
> What does your OCD or Tourette's have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

It's not *my* OCD or Tourette's, it's *yoours*, thooolen. Suffering from 
reading coomprehension prooblems, thoolen?

> 7> (The common
> 7> public perception of Tourette's is that it makes you blurt out nasty
> 7> swear words, like troy did when you telefragged him earlier.
> 
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

What part of "Troy McClure was telefragged by tholen" did you not 
understand? For that matter, the screen turning red and you respawning 
right as you jumped into a teleporter? You certainly seemed to have a 
pretty good idea what had happened when you fired off "What does your 
murder of a teammate have to do with OS/2, McClure?" afterward.

> 7> But actually
> 7> it quite commonly manifests as other physical and verbal tics, and
> "what
> 7> does X have to do with OS/2?" is certainly no less plausible a verbal
> tic
> 7> than some others.
> 
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

Are you arguing that it is not a plausible verbal tic? It may be an 
unusual one but you'd need more evidence to convince me that it was not 
physically possible for a verbal tic to take and specific form.

> 7> Not to mention "who is 'tholeen', Wesson? There is 7> nobody in this
> newsgroup using that alias." ;))
> 
> What do your verbal tics have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

I don't have any veerbal tics, tholeen. Just baad luck with keeyboards. :P

> 7> Someone obviously fancies himself a T2 fan.
> 
> What does your fancy have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

I didn't say it was my fancy. I was referring to another player on the 
server that evening.

> 7> That's what, five messages total in your little argument?
> 
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

Oh, was there a sixth and I missed somewhere? Soorry.

> 7> And given Spock is spoouting long, grammatically well-formed,
> 7> capitalized sentences half of which are movie lines from The
> 7> Undiscoovered Country, I'm guessing you were arguing with a bot,
> 7> thoolen.

> 7> Perhaps you both were.
> 
> Perhaps not, Wesson.

Yeah, perhaps Spock was just a particularly hardcore Star Trek fan.

> 8> Oh, pardon me -- I thought anything that might give new insights 8>
> regarding these groups' most notorious, er, member would be of interest
> 8> to their general population.
> 
> What does your notoriety have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

Oh, I don't have any notoriety to speak of, tholeen, unlikee you.

> 9> What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz? ;)
> 
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

I was making a leetle joke, sir.

On Mar 17, 7:56=A0pm, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
wrote:
> 21> Besides, human players don't produce such lengthy messages in the
> 21> middle of a violent twitch-reflex game, unless it's by voice. Some
> of
> 21> the stuff there, like MilkDud's repeated quip "Yummy, aren't they?
> 21> Must be, they keep coming back for more", could be a human player
> 21> spamming a macro, but the long messages naming specific players
> seem
> 21> unlikely to be generated by anything as simple as a console alias.
> 21> Maybe if there's a source port out there that lets you do stuff
> like
> 21> "say Hey, %v, looks like you forgot to take the safety off" to
> refer
> 21> to the last player you fragged -- but then, the names are often
> not
> 21> capitalized and sometimes misspelt. Someone put a lot of effort
> into
> 21> making the chat look real, except for the whole length thing.
>
> What does your effort into your posting have to do with
> OS/2, Nebulous?

I wasn't talking about my posting. I was talking about the Quake bots.

> 21> I think the real question here though is, how did a modified
> CTFBOT
> 21> get loose on usenet and start haunting comp.os.os2.advocacy and
> other
> 21> newsgroups? And who is to be held responsible for the resulting
> mess?
> 21> I didn't even think you could implement an NNTP client in QuakeC,
> but
> 21> I've been surprised before, especially where the more advanced
> source
> 21> ports like DarkPlaces are concerned. (Speaking of which, Ken ...
> 21> Fitzquake 0.80? WTH?)
>
> Are you suggesting that Wesson, or Harbl, or the myriad Harrison
> aliases are CTFBOTs, Nebulous? =A0Perhaps even you?

No, only you, tholenbot.

> 21> Say, I wonder if there's a port of the quake engine to OS/2?
>
> Why don't you ask your question in comp.os.os2.games, Nebulous?

Don't you think games support would be a useful thing for OS/2
advocates to tout as part of their advocacy?

Marky <markie.moorgoon@live.com> writes:

1> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

1> nothing you snibbling faggot!

Who is "you snibbling faggot", Marky?  There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

1> there.

What does that have to do with OS/2, Marky?

1> now give me head.

What does your request for a lavatory have to do with
OS/2, Marky?

kb9rqz <mark@kb9rqz.com> writes:

216> Newsgroups:
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216> Message-ID: <12b0a05d-23ee-4ad8-
a482-11410bb43748@b8g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>

What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, kb9rqz?

On Mar 18, 11:47=A0pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:50:58 -0700, tho...@antispam.ham wrote:
> > 7> (Just to recap, for those of you who missed the first installment an=
d
> > 7> since tholen is constitutionally incapable of quoting more than one
> > level
> > 7> deep:
>
> > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> > with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> Do you deny, then, that your posts only contain one level of quotation?
> Please post the message-ID of a post you made in the past three months
> that quotes at least two levels deep. (The time limit is because that's
> my server's retention in most groups and Google message-ID search is
> hopelessly broken these days.)
>
> > 7> I bumped into tholen on a quake 1 CTF server the other day and took
> > 7> screenshots.
>
> > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> > Wesson?
>
> What erroneous presupposition are you talking about? I posted links to
> the goddamn screenshots. Are you honestly claiming that they don't exist?
>

There is more than one person named Tholen.

> > 7> Amusingly, he's a reasonably proficient player, but peppers 7> the
> > message log with assorted questions of a very familiar sort for the
> > 7> entire game -- quite long ones, too, so I'm pretty sure he's got som=
e
> > 7> macros he's spamming. Unless, of course, he's a bot.
>
> > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> > Wesson?
>
> I didn't presuppose that you were a bot. I merely considered the
> possibility. Susan Calvin is the one who accused you point blank of being
> a bot.
>

There are programs that imitate Tholen's response style.

> With that name, I suppose she is an expert on such matters though.
>
> > 7> It's your gaming as well,
>
> > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> > with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> Are you honestly asking me to believe there are *two* people out there
> who call themselves "tholen" and constantly ask "what does X have to do
> with OS/2"?
>

What does that have to do with classical music?

Actually, tholen started out as a real person, but has become a meme.

> > 7> both last Friday and again a few minutes ago on 7> the same server
> > where you showed up and joined the team I was on about
> > 7> 1/4 of the way through the game.
>
> > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> > with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> OK, maybe it was closer to 2/5 of the way through. I wasn't exactly
> keeping precise timing logs with a stopwatch, and console transcript
> entries don't have timestamps. So sue me!
>
> > 7> By the way, sorry about that rocket a few minutes ago.
>
> > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> > with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> What's erroneous about it? I genuinely was sorry! That was the other
> team's flag you were halfway home with, after all.
>
> > 7> I must say your reaction was quite mild, and rather amusing:
>
> > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> > Wesson?
>
> What? I did, too, find it amusing!
>

Are you sure it was *his* response?

> > 7> Especially compared to this, earlier, when you and troy walked into
> > the
> > 7> same teleporter in blue base at the same time:
>
> > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> > Wesson?
>
> Nothing erroneous about it. You don't get mutual telefrags like that from
> spawnfragging, only from teleporting to the same place at the same time.
> Besides, your bloody remains (and the flag!) were lying right in front of
> one of the fucking teleporters in blue base, and nowhere near any of the
> map's deathmatch respawns.
>
> > 7> Heck, you weren't even the one carrying the flag that time (and troy
> > 7> respawned close by, grabbed the flag again, and capped, so no biggie
> > for
> > 7> him either despite his initial reaction) and it was certainly more 7=
>
> > accidental than my rocket shoving you into that lava. ;)
>
> > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> > Wesson?
>
> Keep tempting me like that and I might have another mishap with the
> rocket launcher. Maybe it'll be near one of ctf2m3's slime pools next
> time. That'd give you a fighting chance.
>
> > 7> But it *wasn't* coincidence, unless there are *twoo* people 7>
> > running around out there called "tholen" that constantly ask what
> > various
> > 7> things have to do with OOS/2.
>
> > At least that many, Wesson, assuming, of course, that you meant "two"
> > instead of "twoo".
>
> Prove it. I flatly refuse to believe such an extraordinary claim without
> evidence.
>

Tholen has had many imitators - it's almost like some kind of
performance art, first on various newsgroups, and spreading elsewhere
online.

> > 7> Yoours have been known too do so froom time to time, thoolen.
>
> > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> > Wesson?
>
> Huh. I thought for sure you'd ask "who is 'thoolen', Wesson?" at this
> point. Maybe Susan's wrong about you.
>
> > 7> As much as most of your posts to rec.radio.amateeur.policy do,
> > thooleen.
>
> > Who is "thooleen", Wesson? =A0There is nobody in this newsgroup using t=
hat
> > alias.
>
> Sorry. I told you some of my keys were sticking and delete didn't work.
> You'll be glad to know that I've since replaced that shoddy old keyboard.
>
> > 7> Welll, he was you,
>
> > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> > with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> Are you saying you're *not* you?
>
> That doesn't even make sense, thoolen.
>
> Oh, no! It's happpening agaain!
>

I thought you replace the keyboard???

> > 7> I don't think you have anything to be especially ashamed or
> > embarrassed
> > 7> about.
>
> > What you think is irrelevant, Wesson. =A0You're the one who should be
> > embarrassed by all of your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claims
> > and classic erroneous presuppositions.
>
> All zero of them? But, but ... but why?
>

He's confused - he's thinking basketball scoring where the high score
winds, but golf might be a better comparison.

> > 7> You captured twice in tonight's game, two times more than the 7>
> > entire red team, who, mind you, seemed to spend most of their time 7>
> > fumbling with their shoelaces and tripping over their own grenades. ;)
>
> > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> > Wesson?
>
> Perhaps I misread something, but I could have sworn the computer said
> "tholen captured the RED flag!" on two separate occasions during that
> game.
>

Tholen is a bull in the china shop, and you keep waving the red flag
in front of him.

> > 7> When they weren't too busy typing out taunts like "no can do
> > undertaker"
> > 7> to play the game properly (and getting pineappled in the face for
> > their
> > 7> efforts, of course -- that's always what I do when I suspect a
> > player's
> > 7> typing, a grenade to the face, wakes them up right quick. Especially
> > if
> > 7> they are on the other team so they actually take damage.)
>
> > What does your game have to do with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> Your game, too, thollen.
>
> > 7> (Damn "e" key!) I
> > 7> think it might be a form of OCD, or maybe even Tourette's.
>
> > What does your OCD or Tourette's have to do with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> It's not *my* OCD or Tourette's, it's *yoours*, thooolen. Suffering from
> reading coomprehension prooblems, thoolen?
>
> > 7> (The common
> > 7> public perception of Tourette's is that it makes you blurt out nasty
> > 7> swear words, like troy did when you telefragged him earlier.
>
> > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> > Wesson?
>
> What part of "Troy McClure was telefragged by tholen" did you not
> understand? For that matter, the screen turning red and you respawning
> right as you jumped into a teleporter? You certainly seemed to have a
> pretty good idea what had happened when you fired off "What does your
> murder of a teammate have to do with OS/2, McClure?" afterward.
>

It must be a program generating all those long responses in the game.

> > 7> But actually
> > 7> it quite commonly manifests as other physical and verbal tics, and
> > "what
> > 7> does X have to do with OS/2?" is certainly no less plausible a verba=
l
> > tic
> > 7> than some others.
>
> > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> > Wesson?
>
> Are you arguing that it is not a plausible verbal tic? It may be an
> unusual one but you'd need more evidence to convince me that it was not
> physically possible for a verbal tic to take and specific form.
>
> > 7> Not to mention "who is 'tholeen', Wesson? There is 7> nobody in this
> > newsgroup using that alias." ;))
>
> > What do your verbal tics have to do with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> I don't have any veerbal tics, tholeen. Just baad luck with keeyboards. :=
P
>

You should ask for a refund.

> > 7> Someone obviously fancies himself a T2 fan.
>
> > What does your fancy have to do with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> I didn't say it was my fancy. I was referring to another player on the
> server that evening.
>
> > 7> That's what, five messages total in your little argument?
>
> > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> > Wesson?
>
> Oh, was there a sixth and I missed somewhere? Soorry.
>
> > 7> And given Spock is spoouting long, grammatically well-formed,
> > 7> capitalized sentences half of which are movie lines from The
> > 7> Undiscoovered Country, I'm guessing you were arguing with a bot,
> > 7> thoolen.
> > 7> Perhaps you both were.
>
> > Perhaps not, Wesson.
>
> Yeah, perhaps Spock was just a particularly hardcore Star Trek fan.
>

Perhaps "tholen" was just a hardcore kookologist.

> > 8> Oh, pardon me -- I thought anything that might give new insights 8>
> > regarding these groups' most notorious, er, member would be of interest
> > 8> to their general population.
>
> > What does your notoriety have to do with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> Oh, I don't have any notoriety to speak of, tholeen, unlikee you.
>

Tholen's notoriety is usenet-wide, not just in the OS/2 group - he's
attracted both antagonists and fans.

> > 9> What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, Kb9rqz? ;)
>
> > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> > Wesson?
>
> I was making a leetle joke, sir.

Very leetle, Wesson!

On Mar 19, 6:37=A0am, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
wrote:
> Marky <markie.moorg...@live.com> writes:
>
> 1> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radi=
o.amateur.policy
>
> 1> nothing you snibbling faggot!
>
> Who is "you snibbling faggot", Marky? =A0There is nobody in this
> newsgroup using that alias.
>
> 1> there.
>
> What does that have to do with OS/2, Marky?
>
> 1> now give me head.
>
> What does your request for a lavatory have to do with
> OS/2, Marky?

LOL!

On 19/03/2011 1:57 PM, tholen wrote:
> On Mar 19, 6:37 am, "tho...@antispam.ham"<tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
> wrote:
>> Marky<markie.moorg...@live.com>  writes:
>> 1>  there.
>>
>> What does that have to do with OS/2, Marky?
>>
>> 1>  now give me head.
>>
>> What does your request for a lavatory have to do with
>> OS/2, Marky?
>
> LOL!

What does any of this have to do with Lisp, tholen?

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

11> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

11> Do you deny, then, that your posts only contain one level of
quotation?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> Please post the message-ID of a post you made in the past three
months
11> that quotes at least two levels deep. (The time limit is because
that's
11> my server's retention in most groups and Google message-ID search
is
11> hopelessly broken these days.)

What does your request have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> What erroneous presupposition are you talking about?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> I posted links to the goddamn screenshots. Are you honestly
claiming that
11> they don't exist?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> I didn't presuppose that you were a bot. I merely considered the
11> possibility. Susan Calvin is the one who accused you point blank
of being
11> a bot.

What does your consideration have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> With that name, I suppose she is an expert on such matters though.

What does your supposition have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> Are you honestly asking me to believe there are *two* people out
there
11> who call themselves "tholen" and constantly ask "what does X have
to do
11> with OS/2"?

What you want to believe is irrelevant, Wesson.  The facts are
relevant.

11> OK, maybe it was closer to 2/5 of the way through. I wasn't
exactly
11> keeping precise timing logs with a stopwatch, and console
transcript
11> entries don't have timestamps. So sue me!

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

11> What's erroneous about it? I genuinely was sorry! That was the
other
11> team's flag you were halfway home with, after all.

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> What? I did, too, find it amusing!

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> Nothing erroneous about it. You don't get mutual telefrags like
that from
11> spawnfragging, only from teleporting to the same place at the same
time.
11> Besides, your bloody remains (and the flag!) were lying right in
front of
11> one of the fucking teleporters in blue base, and nowhere near any
of the
11> map's deathmatch respawns.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have
to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> Keep tempting me like that and I might have another mishap with
the
11> rocket launcher. Maybe it'll be near one of ctf2m3's slime pools
next
11> time. That'd give you a fighting chance.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

11> Prove it. I flatly refuse to believe such an extraordinary claim
without
11> evidence.

You're the one making the extraordinary claim, Wesson.  The onus
of proof falls on your shoulders, Wesson.

11> Huh. I thought for sure you'd ask "who is 'thoolen', Wesson?" at
this
11> point. Maybe Susan's wrong about you.

What does your thought have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> Sorry. I told you some of my keys were sticking and delete didn't
work.
11> You'll be glad to know that I've since replaced that shoddy old
keyboard.

What does your shoddy old keyboard have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> Are you saying you're *not* you?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> That doesn't even make sense, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

11> Oh, no! It's happpening agaain!

What do your keyboard problems have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> All zero of them?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> But, but ... but why?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> Perhaps I misread something, but I could have sworn the computer
said
11> "tholen captured the RED flag!" on two separate occasions during
that
11> game.

What does your gaming have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> Your game, too, thollen.

Who is "thollen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

11> It's not *my* OCD or Tourette's, it's *yoours*, thooolen.

Who is "thooolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

11> Suffering from reading coomprehension prooblems, thoolen?

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

11> What part of "Troy McClure was telefragged by tholen" did you not
11> understand?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> For that matter, the screen turning red and you respawning
11> right as you jumped into a teleporter?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> You certainly seemed to have a
11> pretty good idea what had happened when you fired off "What does
your
11> murder of a teammate have to do with OS/2, McClure?" afterward.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

11> Are you arguing that it is not a plausible verbal tic?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> It may be an
11> unusual one but you'd need more evidence to convince me that it
was not
11> physically possible for a verbal tic to take and specific form.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

11> I don't have any veerbal tics, tholeen. Just baad luck with
keeyboards. :P

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

11> I didn't say it was my fancy. I was referring to another player on
the
11> server that evening.

What does your gaming have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> Oh, was there a sixth and I missed somewhere? Soorry.

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> Yeah, perhaps Spock was just a particularly hardcore Star Trek
fan.

What does your supposition have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

11> Oh, I don't have any notoriety to speak of, tholeen, unlikee you.

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

11> I was making a leetle joke, sir.

Who is "sir", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

Nebulous <nebulous99@gmail.com> writes:

22> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

22> I wasn't talking about my posting. I was talking about the Quake
bots.

What does your denial have to do with OS/2, Nebulous?

22> No, only you, tholenbot.

Who is "tholenbot", Nebulous?  There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

22> Don't you think games support would be a useful thing for OS/2
22> advocates to tout as part of their advocacy?

Classic inconsistency.  First you talk about a very specific
game, then you talk about games in general.  There are plenty
of games available for OS/2, Nebulous.  That not all of them
are is something that can also be said about Windows, Nebulous.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:49:23 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 11> Are you honestly asking me to believe there are *two* people out
> there
> 11> who call themselves "tholen" and constantly ask "what does X have to
> do
> 11> with OS/2"?
> 
> What you want to believe is irrelevant, Wesson.

What is that phrase you keep using? "Classic unsubstantiated and 
erroneous claim?" Something like that, anyway.

> The facts are relevant.

What does that have to do with OS/2? ;)

> 11> OK, maybe it was closer to 2/5 of the way through. I wasn't exactly
> 11> keeping precise timing logs with a stopwatch, and console transcript
> 11> entries don't have timestamps. So sue me!
> 
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

What is that phrase you keep using? "Classic unsubstantiated and 
erroneous claim?" Something like that, anyway.

> 11> Nothing erroneous about it. You don't get mutual telefrags like that
> from
> 11> spawnfragging, only from teleporting to the same place at the same
> time.
> 11> Besides, your bloody remains (and the flag!) were lying right in
> front of
> 11> one of the fucking teleporters in blue base, and nowhere near any of
> the
> 11> map's deathmatch respawns.
> 
> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> with OS/2, Wesson?

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous", my ass. I saw the flag lying 
there with my own damn eyes. You did, indeed, telefrag ooour team's flag 
carrier that night, and you cannot weasel oout of it with that "classic 
unsubstantiated and erroneoous" crap, thoolen.

> 11> Keep tempting me like that and I might have another mishap with the
> 11> rocket launcher. Maybe it'll be near one of ctf2m3's slime pools
> next
> 11> time. That'd give you a fighting chance.
> 
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

Are you saying that if you fell in slime you'd just sit where and let it 
claim you without even *trying* to grapple your way out of it, then?

I don't think I want you on the same team as me, ever again. :P

> 11> Prove it. I flatly refuse to believe such an extraordinary claim
> without
> 11> evidence.
> 
> You're the one making the extraordinary claim, Wesson.  The onus of
> proof falls on your shoulders, Wesson.

What is that phrase you keep using? "Classic unsubstantiated and 
erroneous claim?" Something like that, anyway. The extraordinary claim 
was that there were two of you, tholen, and you're the one who made it.

> 11> Perhaps I misread something, but I could have sworn the computer
> said
> 11> "tholen captured the RED flag!" on two separate occasions during
> that
> 11> game.
> 
> What does your gaming have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

*Our* gaming, thoolen, *oour* gaming.

> 11> You certainly seemed to have a
> 11> pretty good idea what had happened when you fired off "What does
> your
> 11> murder of a teammate have to do with OS/2, McClure?" afterward.
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

Are you denying having sent that message? It had your name right next to 
it. Or perhaps you're claiming the server hiccuped or gremlins typed it 
into your keyboard on your behalf?

> 11> It may be an
> 11> unusual one but you'd need more evidence to convince me that it was
> not
> 11> physically possible for a verbal tic to take and specific form.
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

Pardon me, more keyboard difficulties. What I meant to send was, "It may 
be an unusual one but you'd need more evidence to convince me that it was 
not physically possible for a verbal tic to take *that* specific form."

> 11> I didn't say it was my fancy. I was referring to another player on
> the
> 11> server that evening.
> 
> What does your gaming have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

*Oour* gaming, thoolen, *our* gaming.

> 11> I was making a leetle joke, sir.
> 
> Who is "sir", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
> alias.

Oh, for chrissake, you're hoopeless, thoolen!

On Mar 20, 4:53=A0am, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
wrote:
> Nebulous <nebulou...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> 22> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radi=
o.amateur.policy
>
> 22> I wasn't talking about my posting. I was talking about the Quake
> bots.
>
> What does your denial have to do with OS/2, Nebulous?

Is that meant to suggest that I am *in* denial about anything, or that
I'm lying? Because I'm not, tholenbot.

> 22> Don't you think games support would be a useful thing for OS/2
> 22> advocates to tout as part of their advocacy?
>
> Classic inconsistency.

What would be inconsistent about using game availability to promote a
platform? For better or for worse, game availability is often one of
the criteria on which shoppers compare platforms.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:08:38 -0700 (PDT), Nebulous
<nebulous99@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 20, 4:53�am, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
>wrote:
>> Nebulous <nebulou...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> 22> Newsgroups:
>> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy
>>
>> 22> I wasn't talking about my posting. I was talking about the Quake
>> bots.
>>
>> What does your denial have to do with OS/2, Nebulous?
>
>Is that meant to suggest that I am *in* denial about anything, or that
>I'm lying? Because I'm not, tholenbot.
>
>> 22> Don't you think games support would be a useful thing for OS/2
>> 22> advocates to tout as part of their advocacy?
>>
>> Classic inconsistency.
>
>What would be inconsistent about using game availability to promote a
>platform? For better or for worse, game availability is often one of
>the criteria on which shoppers compare platforms.

Classic substantiated proof of Tholen's irrationality.

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

14> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

14> What is that phrase you keep using? "Classic unsubstantiated and
14> erroneous claim?" Something like that, anyway.

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

14> What does that have to do with OS/2? ;)

There are plenty of facts about OS/2, Wesson.

14> What is that phrase you keep using? "Classic unsubstantiated and
14> erroneous claim?" Something like that, anyway.

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

14> "Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous", my ass. I saw the flag
lying
14> there with my own damn eyes. You did, indeed, telefrag ooour
team's flag
14> carrier that night, and you cannot weasel oout of it with that
"classic
14> unsubstantiated and erroneoous" crap, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

14> Are you saying that if you fell in slime you'd just sit where and
let it
14> claim you without even *trying* to grapple your way out of it,
then?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

14> I don't think I want you on the same team as me, ever again. :P

What does your thought have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

14> What is that phrase you keep using? "Classic unsubstantiated and
14> erroneous claim?" Something like that, anyway.

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

14> The extraordinary claim
14> was that there were two of you, tholen, and you're the one who
made it.

On the contrary, the extraordinary claim is that I play Quake,
Wesson, and you're the one who made it.

14> *Our* gaming, thoolen, *oour* gaming.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

14> Are you denying having sent that message?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

14> It had your name right next to it.

Gee, I've a bottle of cooking oil with your name on it, Wesson.

14> Or perhaps you're claiming the server hiccuped or gremlins typed
it
14> into your keyboard on your behalf?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

14> Pardon me, more keyboard difficulties. What I meant to send was,
"It may
14> be an unusual one but you'd need more evidence to convince me that
it was
14> not physically possible for a verbal tic to take *that* specific
form."

Classic erroneous presupposition.

14> *Oour* gaming, thoolen, *our* gaming.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

14> Oh, for chrissake, you're hoopeless, thoolen!

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

Nebulous <nebulous99@gmail.com> writes:

23> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

23> Is that meant to suggest that I am *in* denial about anything, or
that
23> I'm lying?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Nebulous?

23> Because I'm not, tholenbot.

Who is "tholenbot", Nebulous?  There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

23> What would be inconsistent about using game availability to
promote a
23> platform?

Suffering from reading comprehension problems, Nebulous?  I
already answered that question with the portion of my response
that you failed to reproduce in your follow-up:

] First you talk about a very specific
] game, then you talk about games in general.  There are plenty
] of games available for OS/2, Nebulous.  That not all of them
] are is something that can also be said about Windows, Nebulous.

23> For better or for worse, game availability is often one of
23> the criteria on which shoppers compare platforms.

Classic pontification.

miguel <miguel@insurgent.org> writes:

44> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

44> Classic substantiated proof of Tholen's irrationality.

Classic erroneous presupposition.  Which makes it rather
ironic.

On Mar 21, 8:59=A0am, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
wrote:
> Nebulous <nebulou...@gmail.com> writes:
> 23> What would be inconsistent about using game availability to
> promote a
> 23> platform?

[insult deleted]

No, tholian. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied
about me are at all true, trollen.

Nebulous <nebulous99@gmail.com> writes:

24> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

24> [insult deleted]

Translation:  hiding the evidence of your reading comprehension
problem, Nebulous.

24> No, tholian.

Who is "tholian", Nebulous?  There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

24> None of the nasty things that you have said or implied
24> about me are at all true, trollen.

Who is "trollen", Nebulous?  There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

On Mar 21, 9:20=A0am, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
wrote:
> Nebulous <nebulou...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> 24> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radi=
o.amateur.policy
>
> 24> [insult deleted]

[insult deleted again, tholoon]

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
tholenbot? The only thing I snipped was some words *you* wrote,
thoolen. That could hardly be evidence of *my* alleged anythings,
thoron. Which is hardly surprising, thumbelina, because none of the
nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true,
thallium.

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 05:56:38 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 14> The extraordinary claim
> 14> was that there were two of you, tholen, and you're the one who made
> it.
> 
> On the contrary, the extraordinary claim is that I play Quake, Wesson,
> and you're the one who made it.

Let me put it this way. If I pulled a random person off the street and 
told them that some guy they'd never heard of played Quake, he'd probably 
believe me. If I told them that he was a notorious usenet kook famous for 
constantly asking what everything had to do with OS/2 and using 
particular catch-phrases, they'd be much less likely to believe me. If I 
told them there were *two* kooks with the same exact particular kooky 
behavior, they'd think *I* was the kook.

> 14> *Our* gaming, thoolen, *oour* gaming.
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

Noot at all, thoolen.

> 14> It had your name right next to it.
> 
> Gee, I've a bottle of cooking oil with your name on it, Wesson.

There're a few Wessons out there. I very much doubt there's more than one 
tholen that constantly natters on about OS/2.

> 14> Pardon me, more keyboard difficulties. What I meant to send was, "It
> may
> 14> be an unusual one but you'd need more evidence to convince me that
> it was
> 14> not physically possible for a verbal tic to take *that* specific
> form."
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

There's nothing at all erroneous about it -- I really did mean to send 
that. In fact it's rather remarkable that you claim my claim that I meant 
to send that is erroneous; what do you claim as the basis for your claim, 
telepathy?

> 14> *Oour* gaming, thoolen, *our* gaming.
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

Not at alll, thollen.

On Mar 23, 3:25=A0am, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 14> It had your name right next to it.
>
> > Gee, I've a bottle of cooking oil with your name on it, Wesson.
>
> There're a few Wessons out there. I very much doubt there's more than one
> tholen that constantly natters on about OS/2.
>

Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen - there
have been several imitators and forgers.
Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?

On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:24:13 -0700, Lora Crighton wrote:

> On Mar 23, 3:25 am, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > 14> It had your name right next to it.
>>
>> > Gee, I've a bottle of cooking oil with your name on it, Wesson.
>>
>> There're a few Wessons out there. I very much doubt there's more than
>> one tholen that constantly natters on about OS/2.
>
> Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen - there
> have been several imitators and forgers.

So you claim.

> Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?

Because it's played host to the tholokook for a long time, so I figured 
its denizens might be interested to know that he's branching out.

Nebulous <nebulous99@gmail.com> writes:

25> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

25> [insult deleted again, tholoon]

Who is "tholoon", Nebulous?  There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

25> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/
2,
25> tholenbot?

Who is "tholenbot", Nebulous?  There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

25> The only thing I snipped was some words *you* wrote,
25> thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Nebulous?  There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

25> That could hardly be evidence of *my* alleged anythings,
25> thoron.

Who is "thoron", Nebulous?  There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

25> Which is hardly surprising, thumbelina,

Who is "thumbelina", Nebulous?  There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

25> because none of the nasty things that you have said or
25> implied about me are at all true, thallium.

Who is "thallium", Nebulous?  There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

On Mar 23, 5:01=A0pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:24:13 -0700, Lora Crighton wrote:
> > On Mar 23, 3:25=A0am, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

15> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

15> Let me put it this way. If I pulled a random person off the street
and
15> told them that some guy they'd never heard of played Quake, he'd
probably
15> believe me.

Do you believe everything some random person tells you about
some other random person, Wesson?  The answer is either yes,
in which case you're quite a gullible person, Wesson, or no,
in which case you've just undermined your own argument.
Either way, you look bad, Wesson.

15> If I told them that he was a notorious usenet kook famous for
15> constantly asking what everything had to do with OS/2 and using
15> particular catch-phrases, they'd be much less likely to believe
me.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

15> If I told them there were *two* kooks with the same exact
15> particular kooky behavior, they'd think *I* was the kook.

But you are a kook, Wesson, based on all the classic
erroneous presuppositions you've made.

15> Noot at all, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

15> There're a few Wessons out there.

One too many, Wesson.

15> I very much doubt there's more than one
15> tholen that constantly natters on about OS/2.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

15> There's nothing at all erroneous about it -- I really did mean to
send
15> that.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

15> In fact it's rather remarkable that you claim my claim that I
meant
15> to send that is erroneous;

Classic erroneous presupposition.

15> what do you claim as the basis for your claim, telepathy?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

15> Not at alll, thollen.

Who is "thollen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

16> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

16> So you claim.

How ironic, coming from someone who made the contrary claim,
without offering any proof.

16> Because it's played host to the tholokook for a long time, so I
figured
16> its denizens might be interested to know that he's branching out.

Who is "tholokook", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

Lora Crighton writes:

77> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

77> Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen -
there
77> have been several imitators and forgers.

It's been said that imitation is the sincerest form
of flattery.

77> Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?

Wesson is a troll.

On Mar 29, 7:43=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 5:01=A0pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:24:13 -0700, Lora Crighton wrote:
> > > On Mar 23, 3:25=A0am, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:- Hide quo=
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kb9rqz <mark@kb9rqz.com> writes:

220> Newsgroups:
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220> Message-ID: <0ad1d019-c749-48ef-
bff8-5e06c0883388@ed10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>

What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, kb9rqz?

On Mar 30, 2:11=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 7:43=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 23, 5:01=A0pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:24:13 -0700, Lora Crighton wrote:
> > > > On Mar 23, 3:25=A0am, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:- Hide q=
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kb9rqz <mark@kb9rqz.com> writes:

221> Newsgroups:
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221> Message-ID: <9d4811ac-a297-46b3-b99f-
abef46c8df80@e21g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>

What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, kb9rqz?

"tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote in message 
news:70dc0422-975a-4908-878c-1a5fae50705a@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> kb9rqz <mark@kb9rqz.com> writes:
>
> 221> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college
>
> 221> Message-ID: <9d4811ac-a297-46b3-b99f-
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>
> What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, kb9rqz?
>
>
Did you use OS/2 to create this blog, tholen?

http://www.whywogersucks.blogspot.com/?zx=e7b018a49581c32d

On Apr 1, 10:29=A0am, "Woger Riseman" <rwisema...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:70dc0422-975a-4908-878c-1a5fae50705a@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com...=
> kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> writes:
>

Y'all can stop now.

--Tedward 

"The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <ei@o.com> writes:

57> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

57> Y'all can stop now.

What does the fact that you didn't practice what you preached
have to do with OS/2, Kennedy?

kb9rqz <mark@kb9rqz.com> writes:

224> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

224> Message-ID:
<12afedce-2bc7-47eb-8c79-0ae3f43ab6aa@ed10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>

What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, kb9rqz?

"Woger Riseman" <rwiseman55@hotmail.com> writes:

12> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

12> Did you use OS/2 to create this blog, tholen?

Classic erroneous presupposition.  What does your
question have to do with college basketball, rwiseman?

On Apr 1, 4:25=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 10:29=A0am, "Woger Riseman" <rwisema...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote in message
>
> >news:70dc0422-975a-4908-878c-1a5fae50705a@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com..=
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:50:11 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 15> Let me put it this way. If I pulled a random person off the street
> and
> 15> told them that some guy they'd never heard of played Quake, he'd
> probably
> 15> believe me.
> 
> Do you believe everything some random person tells you about some other
> random person, Wesson?  The answer is either yes, in which case you're
> quite a gullible person, Wesson, or no, in which case you've just
> undermined your own argument. Either way, you look bad, Wesson.

Non sequitur. It's the random person believing me, rather than me 
believing the random person, that was hypothetically at issue.

> 15> If I told them that he was a notorious usenet kook famous for 15>
> constantly asking what everything had to do with OS/2 and using 15>
> particular catch-phrases, they'd be much less likely to believe me.
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

Oh really? Are you claiming not to have won at least two AUK awards? Are 
you claiming that "classic erroneous presupposition" isn't used so 
frequently by you as to constitute a catch-phrase of yours?

> 15> If I told them there were *two* kooks with the same exact 15>
> particular kooky behavior, they'd think *I* was the kook.
> 
> But you are a kook, Wesson

Classic unsusbtantiated and erroneous claim, to coin a phrase.

> 15> There're a few Wessons out there.
> 
> One too many, Wesson.

Classic unsubstantiated and errooneous claim, thoolen.

Aww, no, not that damn 'o' key again!

> 15> I very much doubt there's more than one 15> tholen that constantly
> natters on about OS/2.
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

I disagree.

> 15> There's nothing at all erroneous about it -- I really did mean to
> send
> 15> that.
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

No; I should certainly know better than you do what I did or did not 
intend to send!

> 15> In fact it's rather remarkable that you claim my claim that I meant
> 15> to send that is erroneous;
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

So now you're saying you *didn't* claim I meant to send that? But ... 
but ... but two paragraphs ago you reiterated that exact claim, when I 
said I did indeed mean to send that and you called that statement 
erroneous!

Classic inconsisteency, tholeen.

> 16> So you claim.
> 
> How ironic, coming from someone who made the contrary claim, without
> offering any proof.

The burden of proof is on the person making the extraordinary claim -- in 
this case, the claim that theere aree two of yoou, thooleen.

On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:52:16 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Lora Crighton writes:
> 
> 77> Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen - there
> 77> have been several imitators and forgers.
> 
> It's been said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

All the more reason to believe it improbable that anyone is imitating 
you, tolen.

> 77> Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?
> 
> Wesson is a troll.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to doo 
with OOS/2, thoolen?

On Apr 2, 2:02=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 4:25=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 10:29=A0am, "Woger Riseman" <rwisema...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote in message
>
> > >news:70dc0422-975a-4908-878c-1a5fae50705a@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com=
....> kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> writes:- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
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*Burp* 

kb9rqz <mark@kb9rqz.com> writes:

227> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

227> Message-ID: <7e331249-
b61b-4d5d-920f-0ad2fd6c6a59@1g2000yqq.googlegroups.com>

What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, kb9rqz?

228> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

228> Message-ID: <1a287e75-3e65-4eb1-af1f-
f3b91ebfe0b3@l11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>

What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, kb9rqz?

"The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <ei@o.com> writes:

58> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

58> *Burp*

What does your indigestion have to do with OS/2, Kennedy?

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

17> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

17> Non sequitur.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

17> It's the random person believing me, rather than me
17> believing the random person, that was hypothetically at issue.

You're the random person making the claim, Wesson.

17> Oh really?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

17>  Are you claiming not to have won at least two AUK awards?

What does your ridiculous question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

18> Are you claiming that "classic erroneous presupposition" isn't
18> used so frequently by you as to constitute a catch-phrase of
18> yours?

What does your ridiculous question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

18> Classic unsusbtantiated and erroneous claim, to coin a phrase.

On the contrary, the substantiation lies in your claim, Wesson.

18> Classic unsubstantiated and errooneous claim, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

18> Aww, no, not that damn 'o' key again!

What do your inconsistent keyboard problems have to do with
OS/2, Wesson?

18> I disagree.

With no basis offered, Wesson.

18> No; I should certainly know better than you do what I did or did
not
18> intend to send!

Classic erroneous presupposition.

18> So now you're saying you *didn't* claim I meant to send that?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

18> But ... but ... but two paragraphs ago you reiterated that exact
18> claim, when I said I did indeed mean to send that and you called
18> that statement erroneous!

I called the presupposition erroneous, Wesson, not the statement.
Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, Wesson?

18> Classic inconsisteency, tholeen.

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

18> The burden of proof is on the person making the extraordinary
claim

That happens to be you, Wesson.

18> -- in this case, the claim that theere aree two of yoou, thooleen.

Who is "thooleen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

19> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

19> All the more reason to believe it improbable that anyone is
imitating
19> you, tolen.

Who is "tolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

19> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
doo
19> with OOS/2, thoolen?

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

"tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote

> 58> *Burp*
>
> What does your indigestion have to do with OS/2, Kennedy?

Cause and effect.

--Tedward 

"The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <ei@o.com> writes:

59> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.football.college

59> Cause and effect.

Classic illogic.

On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 18:07:50 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 17> Newsgroups:
> 
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college
> 
> 17> Non sequitur.
> 
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

Oon yoour part, thoolen.

> 17> It's the random person believing me, rather than me 17> believing
> the random person, that was hypothetically at issue.
> 
> You're the random person making the claim, Wesson.

No, I'm not. The context, which you conveniently snipped, was the 
hypothetical scenario of my telling a random person about you. So, it's 
the random person believing me that was at issue.

> 17>  Are you claiming not to have won at least two AUK awards?
> 
> What does your ridiculous question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

What's ridiculous about it? In light of

http://www.experiencefestival.com/david_j_tholen_-_usenet_reputation

it seems a perfeectly sensible queestion to ask, tholeen.

> 18> Are you claiming that "classic erroneous presupposition" isn't 18>
> used so frequently by you as to constitute a catch-phrase of 18> yours?
> 
> What does your ridiculous question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

What's ridiculous about it? You're constantly posting that phrase in, at 
the very least, comp.os.os2.advocacy.

> 18> Classic unsusbtantiated and erroneous claim, to coin a phrase.
> 
> On the contrary, the substantiation lies in your claim, Wesson.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneoous claim, thoolen.

> 18> Aww, no, not that damn 'o' key again!
> 
> What do your inconsistent keyboard problems have to do with OS/2,
> Wesson?

They're afflicting my posts to an OS/2 newsgroup, tholen.

> 18> I disagree.
> 
> With no basis offered, Wesson.

I don't neeed to justify myseelf to you, tholeen.

> 18> No; I should certainly know better than you do what I did or did not
> 18> intend to send!
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

On yoour part, thoolen. Unless you claim to be telepathic?

> 18> So now you're saying you *didn't* claim I meant to send that?
> 
> What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

Classic eevasion, tholeen.

> 18> But ... but ... but two paragraphs ago you reiterated that exact 18>
> claim, when I said I did indeed mean to send that and you called 18>
> that statement erroneous!
> 
> I called the presupposition erroneous, Wesson, not the statement.

Hair-splitting. You claimed it was in some way wrong when it was in every 
way accuratee, tholeen.

> Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, Wesson?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition of reading comprehension 
problems on my part have to do with OOS/2, thoolen?

> 18> The burden of proof is on the person making the extraordinary claim
> 
> That happens to be you, Wesson.

Au contraire. I'm not the one claiming that there are two people out 
there that act as bizarrely as you do and in the same exact ways, tholen.

Adieu, and hope you enjoyed that Quad rocket I got you with the other 
night.

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

20> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

20> Oon yoour part, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

20> No, I'm not.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim
have to do with OS/2, Wessson?

20> The context, which you conveniently snipped, was the
20> hypothetical scenario of my telling a random person about you.

The context is your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim,
Wesson.

20> So, it's the random person believing me that was at issue.

What does your issue have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

20> What's ridiculous about it?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

20> In light of

What does your random URL have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

20> it seems a perfeectly sensible queestion to ask, tholeen.

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

20> What's ridiculous about it?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

20> You're constantly posting that phrase in, at
20> the very least, comp.os.os2.advocacy.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

20> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneoous claim, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

20> They're afflicting my posts to an OS/2 newsgroup, tholen.

You're blaming keyboard problems for your lies, Wesson?

20> I don't neeed to justify myseelf to you, tholeen.

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

20> On yoour part, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

20> Unless you claim to be telepathic?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

20> Classic eevasion, tholeen.

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

20> Hair-splitting.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

20> You claimed it was in some way wrong when it was in every
20> way accuratee, tholeen.

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

20> What does your classic erroneous presupposition of reading
comprehension
20> problems on my part have to do with OOS/2, thoolen?

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

20> Au contraire.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

20> I'm not the one claiming that there are two people out
20> there that act as bizarrely as you do and in the same
20> exact ways, tholen.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

20> Adieu,

Famous Last Words.

20> and hope you enjoyed that Quad rocket I got you with
20> the other night.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

On Apr 2, 2:02=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 4:25=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 10:29=A0am, "Woger Riseman" <rwisema...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote in message
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304> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

304> Message-ID: <8e841bf5-4efc-4fa3-
bf87-32aac6d5a233@27g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>

What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, kb9rqz?

"tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote

> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.football.college
>
> 59> Cause and effect.
>
> Classic illogic.

People who don't believe in causality should not waste their
time posting to the usenet (much less using the followup-to
lines).

--Tedward 

On Apr 10, 6:07=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
> On Apr 2, 2:02=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 4:25=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 1, 10:29=A0am, "Woger Riseman" <rwisema...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:70dc0422-975a-4908-878c-1a5fae50705a@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.c=
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"The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <ei@o.com> writes:

60> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.football.college

60> People who don't believe in causality should not waste their
60> time posting to the usenet (much less using the followup-to
60> lines).

Should that be taken to mean that you do believe in
causality, Kennedy?  "The Sun rose in the east today,
therefore my car alarm went off."  Or is it really
possible that illogic such as yours can coexist with
logical cases of causality, Kennedy?

So what's your real reason for wasting your time
posting off-topic material to an OS/2 newsgroup,
Kennedy?

kb9rqz <mark@kb9rqz.com> writes:

305> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

305> Message-ID: <02b77721-d4bc-4bbf-
ab22-9698ad3c98d8@d28g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>

What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, kb9rqz?
Or tv, or amateur radio, or college basketball for that
matter, kb9rqz?

On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 13:09:24 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 20> No, I'm not.
> 
> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> with OS/2, Wessson?

It wasn't a "cllassic unsubstantiated and erroneous clllaim", thollen. 
The context, which you conveniently snipped, was the hypothetical 
scenario of my telling a random person about you. So, it's the random 
person believing me that was at issue.

> 20> The context, which you conveniently snipped, was the 20>
> hypothetical scenario of my telling a random person about you.
> 
> The context is your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, Wesson.

Don't be ridicullous, thollen.

> 20> So, it's the random person believing me that was at issue.
> 
> What does your issue have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

It's not my issuee, tholeen, it's yours.

> What does your random URL have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

It wasn't random. It was carefully chosen to illustrate my point.

> 20> You're constantly posting that phrase in, at 20> the very least,
> comp.os.os2.advocacy.
> 
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

Google's archive says otherwise, tholen.

> 20> They're afflicting my posts to an OS/2 newsgroup, tholen.
> 
> You're blaming keyboard problems for your lies, Wesson?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I've told any lies 
have to do with OS/2, tholen?

> 20> Hair-splitting.
> 
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

On your partt, ttholen.

Aww, not tthe "t" key as well! Damn tthis fucking keybooard!

> 20> Au contraire.
> 
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

OOn yoour part, thoolen.

> 20> I'm not the one claiming that there are two people out 20> there
> that act as bizarrely as you do and in the same 20> exact ways, tholen.
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

Onn your part, tholenn.

> 20> and hope you enjoyed that Quad rocket I got you with 20> the other
> night.
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

On your part, tholen.

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

21> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

21> It wasn't a "cllassic unsubstantiated and erroneous clllaim",
thollen.

Who is "thollen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

21> The context, which you conveniently snipped, was the hypothetical
21> scenario of my telling a random person about you. So, it's the
random
21> person believing me that was at issue.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

21> Don't be ridicullous, thollen.

Who is "thollen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

21> It's not my issuee, tholeen, it's yours.

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

21> It wasn't random. It was carefully chosen to illustrate my point.

What does your point have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

21> Google's archive says otherwise, tholen.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

21> What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I've told any
lies
21> have to do with OS/2, tholen?

Classic erroneous presupposition that I've made a classic
erroneous presupposition, Wesson.

21> On your partt, ttholen.

Who is "ttholen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

21> Aww, not tthe "t" key as well! Damn tthis fucking keybooard!

What do your keyboard problems have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

21> OOn yoour part, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

21> Onn your part, tholenn.

Who is "tholenn", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

21> On your part, tholen.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

On Apr 11, 1:35=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
> On Apr 10, 6:07=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
>
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> > On Apr 2, 2:02=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 1, 4:25=A0pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Apr 1, 10:29=A0am, "Woger Riseman" <rwisema...@hotmail.com> wrot=
e:
>
> > > > > "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote in message
>
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kb9rqz <mark@kb9rqz.com> writes:

306> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

306> Message-ID:
<b9f354e3-8f19-4c0a-81c4-55a8cf51fa57@z3g2000prz.googlegroups.com>

What does your empty response have to do with OS/2, kb9rqz?
Or tv, or amateur radio, or college basketball for that
matter, kb9rqz?

On Mar 29, 7:50=A0pm, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
wrote:
> Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> 15> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.class=
ical,rec.sport.basketball.college
>
> 15> Let me put it this way. If I pulled a random person off the street
> and
> 15> told them that some guy they'd never heard of played Quake, he'd
> probably
> 15> believe me.
>
> Do you believe everything some random person tells you about
> some other random person, Wesson? =A0The answer is either yes,
> in which case you're quite a gullible person, Wesson, or no,
> in which case you've just undermined your own argument.
> Either way, you look bad, Wesson.
>
> 15> If I told them that he was a notorious usenet kook famous for
> 15> constantly asking what everything had to do with OS/2 and using
> 15> particular catch-phrases, they'd be much less likely to believe
> me.
>
> Classic erroneous presupposition.
>
> 15> If I told them there were *two* kooks with the same exact
> 15> particular kooky behavior, they'd think *I* was the kook.
>
> But you are a kook, Wesson, based on all the classic
> erroneous presuppositions you've made.
>
> 15> Noot at all, thoolen.
>
> Who is "thoolen", Wesson? =A0There is nobody in this newsgroup
> using that alias.
>
> 15> There're a few Wessons out there.
>
> One too many, Wesson.
>

I can think of something else there is one too many of, Tholen.

What does anything in this ridiculous thread have to to with classical
music, or any of the other groups you are spamming.


> 15> I very much doubt there's more than one
> 15> tholen that constantly natters on about OS/2.
>
> Classic erroneous presupposition.
>
> 15> There's nothing at all erroneous about it -- I really did mean to
> send
> 15> that.
>
> Classic erroneous presupposition.
>
> 15> In fact it's rather remarkable that you claim my claim that I
> meant
> 15> to send that is erroneous;
>
> Classic erroneous presupposition.
>
> 15> what do you claim as the basis for your claim, telepathy?
>
> What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> 15> Not at alll, thollen.
>
> Who is "thollen", Wesson? =A0There is nobody in this newsgroup
> using that alias.
>
> 16> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.baske=
tball.college
>
> 16> So you claim.
>
> How ironic, coming from someone who made the contrary claim,
> without offering any proof.
>
> 16> Because it's played host to the tholokook for a long time, so I
> figured
> 16> its denizens might be interested to know that he's branching out.
>
> Who is "tholokook", Wesson? =A0There is nobody in this newsgroup
> using that alias.

On Mar 23, 5:01=A0pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:24:13 -0700, Lora Crighton wrote:
> > On Mar 23, 3:25=A0am, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > 14> It had your name right next to it.
>
> >> > Gee, I've a bottle of cooking oil with your name on it, Wesson.
>
> >> There're a few Wessons out there. I very much doubt there's more than
> >> one tholen that constantly natters on about OS/2.
>
> > Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen - there
> > have been several imitators and forgers.
>
> So you claim.
>
> > Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?
>
> Because it's played host to the tholokook for a long time, so I figured
> its denizens might be interested to know that he's branching out.

Your reply is not posted to a group she reads, so she is missing all
your brilliance.

Nevermind, she's not missing much.

On Mar 29, 7:52=A0pm, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
wrote:
> Lora Crighton writes:
>
> 77> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.baske=
tball.college
>
> 77> Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen -
> there
> 77> have been several imitators and forgers.
>
> It's been said that imitation is the sincerest form
> of flattery.
>

In this case, it looks more like mockery than flattery, tholen.

> 77> Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?
>
> Wesson is a troll.

Just like you, tholen.

On Apr 1, 4:54=A0pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:
> Y'all can stop now.
>
> --Tedward

Can they really, Tedward?

Can you?

On Mar 23, 10:24=A0am, Lora Crighton <lcrigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 3:25=A0am, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > 14> It had your name right next to it.
>
> > > Gee, I've a bottle of cooking oil with your name on it, Wesson.
>
> > There're a few Wessons out there. I very much doubt there's more than o=
ne
> > tholen that constantly natters on about OS/2.
>
> Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen - there
> have been several imitators and forgers.
> Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?

Still sweet on him, I see.  He's just as much a kook and troll as
Wesson.

"tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote

> 60> People who don't believe in causality should not waste their
> 60> time posting to the usenet (much less using the followup-to
> 60> lines).
>
> Should that be taken to mean that you do believe in
> causality, Kennedy?  "The Sun rose in the east today,
> therefore my car alarm went off."  Or is it really
> possible that illogic such as yours can coexist with
> logical cases of causality, Kennedy?
>
> So what's your real reason for wasting your time
> posting off-topic material to an OS/2 newsgroup,
> Kennedy?

You keep replying.

--Tedward 

"Nightingale" <bisectional2006@gmail.com> wrote

> Y'all can stop now.
>
> --Tedward
<
<Can they really, Tedward?
<
<Can you?

Can you?

--Tedward 

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 09:50:17 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 21> The context, which you conveniently snipped, was the hypothetical
> 21> scenario of my telling a random person about you. So, it's the
> random
> 21> person believing me that was at issue.
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

On yoour part, thoolen.

> 21> It wasn't random. It was carefully chosen to illustrate my point.
> 
> What does your point have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

What does yours?

> 21> Google's archive says otherwise, tholen.
> 
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

Oon your partt, ttttholen.

> 21> What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I've told any
> lies
> 21> have to do with OS/2, tholen?
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition that I've made a classic erroneous
> presupposition, Wesson.

Don't be ridicullous, thollen. I have, indeed, not toold any lies, 
thoolen.

> 21> Aww, not tthe "t" key as well! Damn tthis fucking keybooard!
> 
> What do your keyboard problems have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

They have afflicted posts I make to an OS/2 newsgroup, tholen.

> 21> On your part, tholen.
> 
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

On your part, tholen.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:47:32 -0700, Nightingale wrote:

> On Mar 23, 5:01 pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:24:13 -0700, Lora Crighton wrote:
>> > On Mar 23, 3:25 am, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > 14> It had your name right next to it.
>>
>> >> > Gee, I've a bottle of cooking oil with your name on it, Wesson.
>>
>> >> There're a few Wessons out there. I very much doubt there's more
>> >> than one tholen that constantly natters on about OS/2.
>>
>> > Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen - there
>> > have been several imitators and forgers.
>>
>> So you claim.
>>
>> > Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?
>>
>> Because it's played host to the tholokook for a long time, so I figured
>> its denizens might be interested to know that he's branching out.
> 
> Your reply is not posted to a group she reads, so she is missing all
> your brilliance.

Who is "she", Nightingale? I was replying to a male poster.

> Nevermind, she's not missing much.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do 
with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:50:31 -0700, Nightingale wrote:

> On Mar 29, 7:52 pm, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote:
>> Lora Crighton writes:
>>
>> 77> Newsgroups:
>> 
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college
>>
>> 77> Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen -
>> there
>> 77> have been several imitators and forgers.
>>
>> It's been said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
>
> In this case, it looks more like mockery than flattery, tholen.

That's the first believable thing that I've seen anyone (but me) post in 
this entire thread...

>> 77> Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?
>>
>> Wesson is a troll.
> 
> Just like you, tholen.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I'm a troll have to 
do with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:55:31 -0700, Nightingale wrote:

> On Mar 23, 10:24 am, Lora Crighton <lcrigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 23, 3:25 am, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > > 14> It had your name right next to it.
>>
>> > > Gee, I've a bottle of cooking oil with your name on it, Wesson.
>>
>> > There're a few Wessons out there. I very much doubt there's more than
>> > one tholen that constantly natters on about OS/2.
>>
>> Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen - there
>> have been several imitators and forgers. Why did you add rmc to this
>> thread, Wesson?
> 
> Still sweet on him, I see.  He's just as much a kook and troll as
> Wesson.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I'm a troll have to 
do with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)

Nightingale <bisectional2006@gmail.com> writes:

632> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

632> I can think of something else there is one too many of, Tholen.

So can I, bisectional, but what does your thought have to do with
OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball,
bisectional?

632> What does anything in this ridiculous thread have to to with
classical
632> music, or any of the other groups you are spamming.

Classic erroneous presupposition.  Wesson is the one who started
the thread and chose the newsgroup distribution, bisectional.
He's the one who is spamming; take it up with him, bisectional.

633> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

633> Your reply is not posted to a group she reads, so she is missing
all
633> your brilliance.

Classic inconsistency.

633> Nevermind, she's not missing much.

Still isn't, bisectional.

634> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.music.classical

634> In this case, it looks more like mockery than flattery, tholen.

What it looks like to you is irrelevant, bisectional.

634> Just like you, tholen.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.  Wesson started the
thread and chose the newsgroup distribution, bisectional.  I'm
merely pointing out that I've never played Quake.

635> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

635> Still sweet on him, I see.  He's just as much a kook and troll as
635> Wesson.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.  Wesson started the
thread and chose the newsgroup distribution, bisectional.  I'm
merely pointing out that I've never played Quake.

Of course, if one can be deemed a troll just for replying to
someone else, then you are, ironically, a troll, bisectional.

"The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <ei@o.com> writes:

61> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.football.college

61> You keep replying.

With good reason, Kennedy, namely to point out to
Wesson that I've never played Quake.  What's your
reason, Kennedy?  Wesson didn't make any claims
about you.  You posted just to burp.

62> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

62> Can you?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
or college basketball, Kennedy?

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

22> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

22> On yoour part, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

22> What does yours?

Reread the four characters before the comma, Wesson.  Suffering
from reading comprehension problems, Wesson?

22> Oon your partt, ttttholen.

Who is "ttttholen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

22> Don't be ridicullous, thollen.

Who is "thollen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

22> I have, indeed, not toold any lies, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

22> They have afflicted posts I make to an OS/2 newsgroup, tholen.

There's an easy way to stop the afflicting that newsgroup,
Wesson:  stop posting.

22> On your part, tholen.

Another unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

23> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

23> Who is "she", Nightingale? I was replying to a male poster.

On what basis do you claim that "Lora" is a male poster, Wesson?

23> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
do
23> with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)

How ironic.

24> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.music.classical

24> That's the first believable thing that I've seen anyone (but me)
post in
24> this entire thread...

What does your hallucination have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
college basketball, or classical music, Wesson?

24> What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I'm a troll
have to
24> do with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)

How ironic.

25> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

25> What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I'm a troll
have to
25> do with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)

How ironic.

On Apr 14, 5:10=A0pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 09:50:17 -0700, tho...@antispam.ham wrote:
> > Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > 21> The context, which you conveniently snipped, was the hypothetical
> > 21> scenario of my telling a random person about you. So, it's the
> > random
> > 21> person believing me that was at issue.
>
> > Classic erroneous presupposition.
>
> On yoour part, thoolen.
>
> > 21> It wasn't random. It was carefully chosen to illustrate my point.
>
> > What does your point have to do with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> What does yours?
>
> > 21> Google's archive says otherwise, tholen.
>
> > Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
> Oon your partt, ttttholen.
>

You really need to get a refund for that crap keyboard - whatever you
paid, it was too much.

> > 21> What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I've told any
> > lies
> > 21> have to do with OS/2, tholen?
>
> > Classic erroneous presupposition that I've made a classic erroneous
> > presupposition, Wesson.
>
> Don't be ridicullous, thollen. I have, indeed, not toold any lies,
> thoolen.
>
> > 21> Aww, not tthe "t" key as well! Damn tthis fucking keybooard!
>
> > What do your keyboard problems have to do with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> They have afflicted posts I make to an OS/2 newsgroup, tholen.
>
> > 21> On your part, tholen.
>
> > Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
> On your part, tholen.

On Apr 14, 11:44=A0am, Nightingale <bisectional2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 7:50=A0pm, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > 15> Newsgroups:
> > comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.cla=
ssical,rec.sport.basketball.college
>
> > 15> Let me put it this way. If I pulled a random person off the street
> > and
> > 15> told them that some guy they'd never heard of played Quake, he'd
> > probably
> > 15> believe me.
>
> > Do you believe everything some random person tells you about
> > some other random person, Wesson? =A0The answer is either yes,
> > in which case you're quite a gullible person, Wesson, or no,
> > in which case you've just undermined your own argument.
> > Either way, you look bad, Wesson.
>
> > 15> If I told them that he was a notorious usenet kook famous for
> > 15> constantly asking what everything had to do with OS/2 and using
> > 15> particular catch-phrases, they'd be much less likely to believe
> > me.
>
> > Classic erroneous presupposition.
>
> > 15> If I told them there were *two* kooks with the same exact
> > 15> particular kooky behavior, they'd think *I* was the kook.
>
> > But you are a kook, Wesson, based on all the classic
> > erroneous presuppositions you've made.
>
> > 15> Noot at all, thoolen.
>
> > Who is "thoolen", Wesson? =A0There is nobody in this newsgroup
> > using that alias.
>
> > 15> There're a few Wessons out there.
>
> > One too many, Wesson.
>
> I can think of something else there is one too many of, Tholen.
>
> What does anything in this ridiculous thread have to to with classical
> music, or any of the other groups you are spamming.
>

Nothing, as usual.

> > 15> I very much doubt there's more than one
> > 15> tholen that constantly natters on about OS/2.
>
> > Classic erroneous presupposition.
>
> > 15> There's nothing at all erroneous about it -- I really did mean to
> > send
> > 15> that.
>
> > Classic erroneous presupposition.
>
> > 15> In fact it's rather remarkable that you claim my claim that I
> > meant
> > 15> to send that is erroneous;
>
> > Classic erroneous presupposition.
>
> > 15> what do you claim as the basis for your claim, telepathy?
>
> > What does your question have to do with OS/2, Wesson?
>
> > 15> Not at alll, thollen.
>
> > Who is "thollen", Wesson? =A0There is nobody in this newsgroup
> > using that alias.
>
> > 16> Newsgroups:
> > comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.bas=
ketball.college
>
> > 16> So you claim.
>
> > How ironic, coming from someone who made the contrary claim,
> > without offering any proof.
>
> > 16> Because it's played host to the tholokook for a long time, so I
> > figured
> > 16> its denizens might be interested to know that he's branching out.
>
> > Who is "tholokook", Wesson? =A0There is nobody in this newsgroup
> > using that alias.

On Apr 14, 11:50=A0am, Nightingale <bisectional2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 7:52=A0pm, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Lora Crighton writes:
>
> > 77> Newsgroups:
> > comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.bas=
ketball.college
>
> > 77> Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen -
> > there
> > 77> have been several imitators and forgers.
>
> > It's been said that imitation is the sincerest form
> > of flattery.
>
> In this case, it looks more like mockery than flattery, tholen.
>
> > 77> Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?
>
> > Wesson is a troll.
>
> Just like you, tholen.

birds of a feather

On Apr 14, 5:12=A0pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:50:31 -0700, Nightingale wrote:
> > On Mar 29, 7:52=A0pm, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu> wro=
te:
> >> Lora Crighton writes:
>
> >> 77> Newsgroups:
>
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.baske=
tball.college
>
>
>
> >> 77> Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen -
> >> there
> >> 77> have been several imitators and forgers.
>
> >> It's been said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
>
> > In this case, it looks more like mockery than flattery, tholen.
>
> That's the first believable thing that I've seen anyone (but me) post in
> this entire thread...
>
> >> 77> Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?
>
> >> Wesson is a troll.
>
> > Just like you, tholen.
>
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I'm a troll have to
> do with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)

What does your question have to do with classical music, Wesson?

On Apr 14, 5:53=A0pm, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
wrote:
> Nightingale <bisectional2...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> 632> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.class=
ical,rec.sport.basketball.college
>
> 632> I can think of something else there is one too many of, Tholen.
>
> So can I, bisectional, but what does your thought have to do with
> OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball,
> bisectional?
>
> 632> What does anything in this ridiculous thread have to to with
> classical
> 632> music, or any of the other groups you are spamming.
>
> Classic erroneous presupposition. =A0Wesson is the one who started
> the thread and chose the newsgroup distribution, bisectional.
> He's the one who is spamming; take it up with him, bisectional.
>

Are you helpless to change the distribution, tholen?  He started, and
you continued.

> 633> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.baske=
tball.college
>
> 633> Your reply is not posted to a group she reads, so she is missing
> all
> 633> your brilliance.
>
> Classic inconsistency.
>
> 633> Nevermind, she's not missing much.
>
> Still isn't, bisectional.
>

Well, you've decided to share some of bisectional's brilliance(?) with
a newsgroups that he or she didn't post it too initially.  I'm sure
that Lora will be happy to read it.

> 634> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.baske=
tball.college,rec.music.classical
>
> 634> In this case, it looks more like mockery than flattery, tholen.
>
> What it looks like to you is irrelevant, bisectional.
>

Believe it's flattery if that makes you happy, but in at least some
cases I know it was mockery.

> 634> Just like you, tholen.
>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. =A0Wesson started the
> thread and chose the newsgroup distribution, bisectional. =A0I'm
> merely pointing out that I've never played Quake.
>

Wesson started, and you continued.  What are you, 50-something going
on 5?  Grow up.

> 635> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.baske=
tball.college
>
> 635> Still sweet on him, I see. =A0He's just as much a kook and troll as
> 635> Wesson.

I hope Lora appreciates your quoting this reply that she otherwise
would not have seen, because it was not posted to a group that she
reads.

>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. =A0Wesson started the
> thread and chose the newsgroup distribution, bisectional. =A0I'm
> merely pointing out that I've never played Quake.
>

You're repeating yourself.

> Of course, if one can be deemed a troll just for replying to
> someone else, then you are, ironically, a troll, bisectional.

Nothing ironic about it: bisectional has stated more than once that he
or she is one of the trolls.  And you are one of the little fish they
caught...

On Apr 14, 3:56=A0pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:
> "Nightingale" <bisectional2...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > Y'all can stop now.
>
> > --Tedward
>
> <
> <Can they really, Tedward?
> <
> <Can you?
>
> Can you?
>

Note: no response.

tholen <tholenizer@gmail.com> writes:

10> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

10> There is more than one person named Tholen.

What does that have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical
music,
or college basketball, tholenizer?

10> There are programs that imitate Tholen's response style.

What does that have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical
music,
or college basketball, tholenizer?

10> What does that have to do with classical music?

How ironic.

10> Actually, tholen started out as a real person, but has become a
meme.

What does that have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical
music,
or college basketball, tholenizer?

10> Are you sure it was *his* response?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
classical
music, or college basketball, tholenizer?

10> Tholen has had many imitators - it's almost like some kind of
10> performance art, first on various newsgroups, and spreading
elsewhere
10> online.

What does that have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical
music,
or college basketball, tholenizer?

10> I thought you replace the keyboard???

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
classical
music, or college basketball, tholenizer?

10> He's confused - he's thinking basketball scoring where the high
score
10> winds, but golf might be a better comparison.

What is a winding high score, tholenizer, and what does it have to
do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, or classical music?

10> Tholen is a bull in the china shop, and you keep waving the red
flag
10> in front of him.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball,
tholenizer?

10> It must be a program generating all those long responses in the
game.

What does your speculation have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
classical music, or college basketball, tholenizer?

10> You should ask for a refund.

What does your recommendation have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
classical music, or college basketball, tholenizer?

10> Perhaps "tholen" was just a hardcore kookologist.

What does your speculation have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
classical music, or college basketball, tholenizer?

10> Tholen's notoriety is usenet-wide, not just in the OS/2 group -
he's
10> attracted both antagonists and fans.

What does that have to do with tv, amateur radio, classical music,
or college basketball, tholenizer?

10> Very leetle, Wesson!

What does that have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical
music,
or college basketball, tholenizer?

11> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,comp.lang.lisp,alt.usenet.kooks,rec.radio.amateur.policy

11> LOL!

What does that have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical
music,
or college basketball, tholenizer?

12> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

12> You really need to get a refund for that crap keyboard - whatever
you
12> paid, it was too much.

What does that have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical
music,
or college basketball, tholenizer?

13> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

13> Nothing, as usual.

How ironic.

14> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.music.classical

14> birds of a feather

How ironic.

15> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.music.classical

15> What does your question have to do with classical music, Wesson?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
or college basketball, tholenizer?

16> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

16> Are you helpless to change the distribution, tholen?  He started,
and
16> you continued.

Suffering from reading comprehension problems, tholenizer?
I did set follow-ups to a more appropriate newsgroup.

16> Well, you've decided to share some of bisectional's brilliance(?)
with
16> a newsgroups that he or she didn't post it too initially.  I'm
sure
16> that Lora will be happy to read it.

What does that have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical
music,
or college basketball, tholenizer?

16> Believe it's flattery if that makes you happy, but in at least
some
16> cases I know it was mockery.

What does your classic pontification have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur
radio, classical music, or college basketball, tholenizer?

16> Wesson started, and you continued.

I replied to state that I've never played Quake, tholenizer.  In
other words, I corrected misinformation.  You have a problem with
that, tholenizer?

16> What are you, 50-something going on 5?

What does your ridiculous question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur
radio, classical music, or college basketball, tholenizer?

16> Grow up.

Practice what you preach, tholenizer.

16> I hope Lora appreciates your quoting this reply that she otherwise
16> would not have seen, because it was not posted to a group that she
16> reads.

What does your hope have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical
music, or college basketball, tholenizer?

16> You're repeating yourself.

   "He started, and you continued."
      --tholenizer

   "Wesson started, and you continued."
      --tholenizer

How ironic.

16> Nothing ironic about it:

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball,
tholenizer?

16> bisectional has stated more than once that he
16> or she is one of the trolls.

Doesn't change the irony of his statement, tholenizer.

16> And you are one of the little fish they caught...

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball,
tholenizer?

On Apr 14, 5:53=A0pm, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
wrote:
> Nightingale <bisectional2...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> 632> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.class=
ical,rec.sport.basketball.college
>
> 632> I can think of something else there is one too many of, Tholen.
>
> So can I, bisectional, but what does your thought have to do with
> OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball,
> bisectional?
>

That would depend what I was thinking of, wouldn't it, tholen?

> 632> What does anything in this ridiculous thread have to to with
> classical
> 632> music, or any of the other groups you are spamming.
>
> Classic erroneous presupposition. =A0Wesson is the one who started
> the thread and chose the newsgroup distribution, bisectional.
> He's the one who is spamming; take it up with him, bisectional.
>

It takes two to tango, tholen.  Why do you continue to feed the
trolls?

> 633> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.baske=
tball.college
>
> 633> Your reply is not posted to a group she reads, so she is missing
> all
> 633> your brilliance.
>
> Classic inconsistency.
>

It was actually an attempt a humour, but not one of my better ones.
Sorry.

> 633> Nevermind, she's not missing much.
>
> Still isn't, bisectional.
>
> 634> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.baske=
tball.college,rec.music.classical
>
> 634> In this case, it looks more like mockery than flattery, tholen.
>
> What it looks like to you is irrelevant, bisectional.
>

Not to me, tholen.  When was the last time you had your vision
checked?

> 634> Just like you, tholen.
>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. =A0Wesson started the
> thread and chose the newsgroup distribution, bisectional. =A0I'm
> merely pointing out that I've never played Quake.
>
> 635> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.baske=
tball.college
>
> 635> Still sweet on him, I see. =A0He's just as much a kook and troll as
> 635> Wesson.
>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. =A0Wesson started the
> thread and chose the newsgroup distribution, bisectional. =A0I'm
> merely pointing out that I've never played Quake.
>

OK, we get it.  You may stop now.  (I won't say you can, because I'm
not sure if that is actually true.)

> Of course, if one can be deemed a troll just for replying to
> someone else, then you are, ironically, a troll, bisectional.

I've never denied being a troll, tholen.

On Apr 14, 3:56=A0pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:
> "Nightingale" <bisectional2...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > Y'all can stop now.
>
> > --Tedward
>
> <
> <Can they really, Tedward?
> <
> <Can you?
>
> Can you?
>

Quitting is easy, I've done it many times ;-)

On Apr 14, 5:11=A0pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:47:32 -0700, Nightingale wrote:
> > On Mar 23, 5:01=A0pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:24:13 -0700, Lora Crighton wrote:
> >> > On Mar 23, 3:25=A0am, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > 14> It had your name right next to it.
>
> >> >> > Gee, I've a bottle of cooking oil with your name on it, Wesson.
>
> >> >> There're a few Wessons out there. I very much doubt there's more
> >> >> than one tholen that constantly natters on about OS/2.
>
> >> > Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen - there
> >> > have been several imitators and forgers.
>
> >> So you claim.
>
> >> > Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?
>
> >> Because it's played host to the tholokook for a long time, so I figure=
d
> >> its denizens might be interested to know that he's branching out.
>
> > Your reply is not posted to a group she reads, so she is missing all
> > your brilliance.
>
> Who is "she", Nightingale? I was replying to a male poster.
>

You were replying to Lora, who is a middle-aged woman who returned to
school to study music after her child left home.

> > Nevermind, she's not missing much.
>
> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)

Nothing at all, tholen ;-)

On Apr 14, 5:12=A0pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:50:31 -0700, Nightingale wrote:
> > On Mar 29, 7:52=A0pm, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu> wro=
te:
> >> Lora Crighton writes:
>
> >> 77> Newsgroups:
>
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.baske=
tball.college
>
>
>
> >> 77> Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen -
> >> there
> >> 77> have been several imitators and forgers.
>
> >> It's been said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
>
> > In this case, it looks more like mockery than flattery, tholen.
>
> That's the first believable thing that I've seen anyone (but me) post in
> this entire thread...
>

Thanks.

> >> 77> Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?
>
> >> Wesson is a troll.
>
> > Just like you, tholen.
>
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I'm a troll have to
> do with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)

You were acting like one with that cross-post into rmc.

Nightingale <bisectional2006@gmail.com> writes:

638> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

638> That would depend what I was thinking of, wouldn't it, tholen?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, or
college basketball, bisectional?

638> It takes two to tango, tholen.

Take it up with yourself, bisectional.

638> Why do you continue to feed the trolls?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, or
college basketball, bisectional?

638> It was actually an attempt a humour, but not one of my better
ones.
638> Sorry.

What does your attempt at humor have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur
radio,
or college basketball, bisectional?

638> Not to me, tholen.  When was the last time you had your vision
638> checked?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, or
college basketball, bisectional?

638> OK, we get it.  You may stop now.  (I won't say you can, because
I'm
638> not sure if that is actually true.)

What does your alleged understanding have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur
radio, or college basketball, bisectional?

638> I've never denied being a troll, tholen.

What does your trolling have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, or
college basketball, bisectional?

639> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.music.classical

639> Thanks.

What does your thanks have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, or
college basketball, bisectional?

639> You were acting like one with that cross-post into rmc.

On what basis do you use the past tense, bisectional?

640> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

640> You were replying to Lora, who is a middle-aged woman who
returned to
640> school to study music after her child left home.

What does your information have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, or
college basketball, bisectional?

640> Nothing at all, tholen ;-)

Why are you referring to Wesson as "tholen", bisectional?  Suffering
from reading comprehension problems, attribution problems, or both,
bisectional?

641> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

641> Quitting is easy, I've done it many times ;-)

What does your classic illogic have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur
radio,
or college basketball, bisectional?

"tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote

> 61> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.football.college
>
> 61> You keep replying.
>
> With good reason, Kennedy, namely to point out to
> Wesson that I've never played Quake.  What's your
> reason, Kennedy?  Wesson didn't make any claims
> about you.  You posted just to burp.

And to make you reply.

> 62> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college
>
> 62> Can you?
>
> What does your question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
> or college basketball, Kennedy?

It's a slam dunk.

--Tedward 

"The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <ei@o.com> writes:

63> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.football.college

63> And to make you reply.

What does your peculiar emotional need to make people reply
have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, college basketball,
or college football, Kennedy?

63> It's a slam dunk.

Illogical, given that slam dunks aren't involved in OS/2,
amateur radio, or college football, Kennedy.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:56:30 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <ei@o.com> writes:
> 
> 61> Newsgroups:
> 
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.football.college
> 
> 61> You keep replying.
> 
> With good reason, Kennedy, namely to point out to Wesson that I've never
> played Quake.

Which am I going to believe, your words or the evidence of my own eyes?

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:11:14 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> tholen <tholenizer@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 10> Actually, tholen started out as a real person, but has become a
> meme.
> 
> What does that have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical music,
> or college basketball, tholenizer?

I find it interesting that you a) appear to be arguing with yourself and 
b) did not call that an "unsubstantiated and erroneous claim", meme. :)

> Suffering from reading comprehension problems, tholenizer? I did set
> follow-ups to a more appropriate newsgroup.

Classic unsubstantiated and errooneous claim, thoolen. Your post isn't 
about tests so a test newsgroup is not "a moore approopriate newsgrooup", 
thoolen.

> I replied to state that I've never played Quake, tholenizer.

Which am I going to believe, your words or the evidence of my own eyes?

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:53:09 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Classic erroneous presupposition.  Wesson is the one who started the
> thread and chose the newsgroup distribution, bisectional.

What does that have to do with OS/2, tholen? ;)

> He's the one who is spamming

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do 
with OS/2, tholen? ;)

> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.  Wesson started the thread
> and chose the newsgroup distribution, bisectional.  I'm merely pointing
> out that I've never played Quake.

Which am I going to believe, your words or the evidence of my own eyes?

> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.  Wesson started the thread
> and chose the newsgroup distribution, bisectional.  I'm merely pointing
> out that I've never played Quake.

Which am I going to believe, your words or the evidence of my own eyes?

On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 06:35:37 -0700, Nightingale wrote:

> On Apr 14, 5:11 pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Who is "she", Nightingale? I was replying to a male poster.
>
> You were replying to Lora, who is a middle-aged woman who returned to
> school to study music after her child left home.

No, I was replying to the tholenbot.

>> > Nevermind, she's not missing much.
>>
>> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
>> with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)
> 
> Nothing at all, tholen ;-)

Suffering from reading comprehension problems, Nightingale? I'm not 
tholen. ;)

On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 06:36:53 -0700, Nightingale wrote:

> On Apr 14, 5:12 pm, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:50:31 -0700, Nightingale wrote:
>> > On Mar 29, 7:52 pm, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Lora Crighton writes:
>>
>> >> 77> Newsgroups:
>>
>> 
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college
>>
>>
>>
>> >> 77> Not everone who posts using the name tholen is really tholen -
>> >> there
>> >> 77> have been several imitators and forgers.
>>
>> >> It's been said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
>>
>> > In this case, it looks more like mockery than flattery, tholen.
>>
>> That's the first believable thing that I've seen anyone (but me) post
>> in this entire thread...
>>
>>
> Thanks.
> 
>> >> 77> Why did you add rmc to this thread, Wesson?
>>
>> >> Wesson is a troll.
>>
>> > Just like you, tholen.
>>
>> What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I'm a troll have
>> to do with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)
> 
> You were acting like one with that cross-post into rmc.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do 
with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:03:54 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 22> What does yours?
> 
> Reread the four characters before the comma, Wesson.  Suffering from
> reading comprehension problems, Wesson?

Noot at all, thoolen.

> 22> They have afflicted posts I make to an OS/2 newsgroup, tholen.
> 
> There's an easy way to stop the afflicting that newsgroup, Wesson:  stop
> posting.

"Don't use it" kind of defeats the purpose of the new keyboard, tholen.

> 22> On your part, tholen.
> 
> Another unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

On yoour part, thoolen.

> 23> Who is "she", Nightingale? I was replying to a male poster.
> 
> On what basis do you claim that "Lora" is a male poster, Wesson?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tholen?

> 23> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
> do
> 23> with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)
> 
> How ironic.

What does your cllassic unsubstantiated and erroneous cllaim have to do 
with OS/2, thollen?

> 24> That's the first believable thing that I've seen anyone (but me)
> post in
> 24> this entire thread...
> 
> What does your hallucination have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
> college basketball, or classical music, Wesson?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I hallucinate have 
to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, college basketball, or classical 
music, tholenbot?

> 24> What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I'm a troll
> have to
> 24> do with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)
> 
> How ironic.

Another unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

> 25> What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I'm a troll
> have to
> 25> do with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)
> 
> How ironic.

Another unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

26> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

26> I find it interesting that you a) appear to be arguing with
yourself

What does your obvious reading comprehension problem have to do with
OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball,
Wesson?

26> and b) did not call that an "unsubstantiated and erroneous claim",
meme. :)

Who is "meme", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

26> Classic unsubstantiated and errooneous claim, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

26> Your post isn't about tests so a test newsgroup is not "a moore
26> approopriate newsgrooup", thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

26> Which am I going to believe, your words or the evidence of my own
eyes?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
classical music, or college basketball, Wesson?

27> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

27> What does that have to do with OS/2, tholen? ;)

You should know, Wesson, given that you chose the newsgroup
distribution.

27> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
do
27> with OS/2, tholen? ;)

Classic erroneous presupposition.

27> Which am I going to believe, your words or the evidence of my own
eyes?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
classical music, or college basketball, Wesson?

27> Which am I going to believe, your words or the evidence of my own
eyes?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
classical music, or college basketball, Wesson?

28> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

28> No, I was replying to the tholenbot.

Who is "the tholenbot", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using
that alias.

27> Suffering from reading comprehension problems, Nightingale? I'm
not
27> tholen. ;)

How many different aliases have you used, Wesson?

28> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.music.classical

28> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
do
28> with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)

How ironic.

29> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

29> Noot at all, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

29> "Don't use it" kind of defeats the purpose of the new keyboard,
tholen.

Defective, Wesson.

29> On yoour part, thoolen.

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

29> What does your question have to do with OS/2, tholen?

You should know, Wesson, given that you chose the newsgroup
distribution.

29> What does your cllassic unsubstantiated and erroneous cllaim have
to do
29> with OS/2, thollen?

Who is "thollen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

29> What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I hallucinate
have
29> to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, college basketball, or
classical
29> music, tholenbot?

Who is "tholenbot", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

29> Another unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

On your part, Wesson.

29> Another unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

On your part, Wesson.

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

30> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.football.college

30> Which am I going to believe, your words or the evidence of my own
eyes?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
college basketball, or college football, Wesson?

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:39:32 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 26> I find it interesting that you a) appear to be arguing with yourself
> 
> What does your obvious reading comprehension problem have to do with
> OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball, Wesson?

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim that I have a 
reading comprehension problem have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, 
classical music, or college basketball, tholenbot?

> 27> What does that have to do with OS/2, tholen? ;)
> 
> You should know, Wesson, given that you chose the newsgroup
> distribution.

I chose the newsgroup distribution because my topic was you, so the 
ball's back in your court. What do you have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur 
radio, classical music, or coollege basketball, thoolen?

> 27> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
> do
> 27> with OS/2, tholen? ;)
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

On your partt, ttholen.

> 28> No, I was replying to the tholenbot.
> 
> Who is "the tholenbot", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
> that alias.

You know damned well who the tholenbot is, tholenbot.

> 27> Suffering from reading comprehension problems, Nightingale? I'm not
> 27> tholen. ;)
> 
> How many different aliases have you used, Wesson?

Just the onee, tholeen.

> 28> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
> do
> 28> with OS/2, Nightingale? ;)
> 
> How ironic.

What does your cllassic unsubstantiated and erroneous clllaim have to do 
with OS/2, tholllen?

> 29> "Don't use it" kind of defeats the purpose of the new keyboard,
> tholen.
> 
> Defective, Wesson.

Yes it is; I really do need to find mysellf a better keyboard suppllier, 
thollen.

> 29> What does your question have to do with OS/2, tholen?
> 
> You should know, Wesson, given that you chose the newsgroup
> distribution.

I chose the newsgroup distribution because my topic was you, so the 
ball's back in your court. What do you have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur 
radio, classical music, or coollege basketball, thoolen?

> 29> Another unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> 
> On your part, Wesson.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to doo 
with OS/2, thoolen?

> 29> Another unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> 
> On your part, Wesson.

What does your classic unnsubstantiated and erronneous claim have to do 
with OS/2, tholenn?

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

31> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

31> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim that I
have a
31> reading comprehension problem

Classic erroneous presupposition?

31> have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
31> classical music, or college basketball, tholenbot?

Who is "tholenbot", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.  Oh, and you just confirmed yet again that you have
reading comprehension problems, Wesson.

31> I chose the newsgroup distribution because my topic was you, so
the
31> ball's back in your court.

Classic illogic, given that none of the newsgroups you chose are
about me, Wesson.

31> What do you have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur
31> radio, classical music, or coollege basketball, thoolen?

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

31> On your partt, ttholen.

Who is "ttholen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

31> You know damned well who the tholenbot is, tholenbot.

Who is "tholenbot", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

31> Just the onee, tholeen.

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

31> What does your cllassic unsubstantiated and erroneous clllaim have
to do
31> with OS/2, tholllen?

Who is "tholllen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

31> Yes it is; I really do need to find mysellf a better keyboard
suppllier,
31> thollen.

Who is "thollen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

31> I chose the newsgroup distribution because my topic was you, so
the
31> ball's back in your court.

Classic illogic, given that none of the newsgroups you chose are
about me, Wesson.

31> What do you have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur
31> radio, classical music, or coollege basketball, thoolen?

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

31> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
doo
31> with OS/2, thoolen?

Who is "thoolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

31> What does your classic unnsubstantiated and erronneous claim have
to do
31> with OS/2, tholenn?

Who is "tholenn", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> wrote:

> What's ridiculous about it? In light of
> 
> http://www.experiencefestival.com/david_j_tholen_-_usenet_reputation

Kind of ironic that a page accusing Tholen of being repetitive is itself
one of the more repetitive pages I've seen in a while.

Victor "easily amused"
-- 
Victor Eijkhout -- eijkhout at tacc utexas edu

Victor Eijkhout writes:

2> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

2> Kind of ironic that a page accusing Tholen of being repetitive is
itself
2> one of the more repetitive pages I've seen in a while.

What does Wesson's irony have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
classical music, or college basketball, Eijkhout?

2> Victor "easily amused"

What does the ease of your amusement have to do with OS/2, tv,
amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball, Eijkhout?

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:02:56 -0500, Victor Eijkhout wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> What's ridiculous about it? In light of
>> 
>> http://www.experiencefestival.com/david_j_tholen_-_usenet_reputation
> 
> Kind of ironic that a page accusing Tholen of being repetitive is itself
> one of the more repetitive pages I've seen in a while.

Irony is par for the course when dealing with Tholen.

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:43:53 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Victor Eijkhout writes:
> 
> 2> Newsgroups:
> 
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college
> 
> 2> Kind of ironic that a page accusing Tholen of being repetitive is
> itself
> 2> one of the more repetitive pages I've seen in a while.
> 
> What does Wesson's irony have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
> classical music, or college basketball, Eijkhout?

*My* irony? It is your irony that was under discussioon, thoolen.

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 06:07:26 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 31> Newsgroups:
> 
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college
> 
> 31> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim that I
> have a
> 31> reading comprehension problem
> 
> Classic erroneous presupposition?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tholen?

> 31> have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, 31> classical music, or
> college basketball, tholenbot?
> 
> Who is "tholenbot", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
> that alias.  Oh, and you just confirmed yet again that you have reading
> comprehension problems, Wesson.

Did not!

> 31> I chose the newsgroup distribution because my topic was you, so the
> 31> ball's back in your court.
> 
> Classic illogic, given that none of the newsgroups you chose are about
> me, Wesson.

Au contraire, thoolen. They are the five newsgroups that are the most 
about you, judging by the frequency with which you post to them, tholen.

> 31> You know damned well who the tholenbot is, tholenbot.
> 
> Who is "tholenbot", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
> that alias.

Wow, talking to you is likee talking to a brick wall, tholeen.

> 31> What does your cllassic unsubstantiated and erroneous clllaim have
> to do
> 31> with OS/2, tholllen?
> 
> Who is "tholllen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
> alias.

Gee, one little typo and you can't see past it.

> 31> I chose the newsgroup distribution because my topic was you, so the
> 31> ball's back in your court.
> 
> Classic illogic, given that none of the newsgroups you chose are about
> me, Wesson.

I think I already answered that oone, thoolen.

> 31> What does your classic unnsubstantiated and erronneous claim have to
> do
> 31> with OS/2, tholenn?
> 
> Who is "tholenn", Wesson?

Delenn's brother. Haven't you ever watched Babylon 5?

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

32> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

32> Irony is par for the course when dealing with Tholen.

What does your attempt at par have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

33> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

33> *My* irony?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tv, amateur radio,
classical music, or college basketball, Wesson?

33> It is your irony that was under discussioon, thoolen.

Having attribution problems, Wesson?  Someone else has adopted the
"thoolen" alias, Wesson, not me.

34> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

34> What does your question have to do with OS/2, tholen?

You should know, Wesson, given that you keep making your classic
erroneous presuppositions in an OS/2 newsgroup.

34> Did not!

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

34> Au contraire, thoolen.

Having attribution problems, Wesson?  Someone else has adopted the
"thoolen" alias, Wesson, not me.

34> They are the five newsgroups that are the most
34> about you, judging by the frequency with which you post to them,
tholen.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

34> Wow, talking to you is likee talking to a brick wall, tholeen.

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

34> Gee, one little typo and you can't see past it.

What do your typo and classic erroneous presupposition have to do
with OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball,
Wesson?

34> I think I already answered that oone, thoolen.

Having attribution problems, Wesson?  Someone else has adopted the
"thoolen" alias, Wesson, not me.

34> Delenn's brother.

Why are you addressing Delenn's brother in this newsgroup, Wesson?

34> Haven't you ever watched Babylon 5?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, amateur radio, classical
music, or college basketball, Wesson?

On Wed, 04 May 2011 06:10:02 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 32> Newsgroups:
> 
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college
> 
> 32> Irony is par for the course when dealing with Tholen.
> 
> What does your attempt at par have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

Successful atteempt, tholeen.

> 33> It is your irony that was under discussioon, thoolen.
> 
> Having attribution problems, Wesson?

No, but thanks for yoour cooncern, thooolen.

> 34> What does your question have to do with OS/2, tholen?
> 
> You should know, Wesson, given that you keep making your classic
> erroneous presuppositions in an OS/2 newsgroup.

A vacuous claim, since my set of classic erroneous presuppositions has 
cardinality zeero, tholeen.

> 34> Did not!
> 
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

Oon yoour part, thooolen.

> 34> Au contraire, thoolen.
> 
> Having attribution problems, Wesson?

Not at alll, thollen, but thanks foor your concern.

> 34> They are the five newsgroups that are the most 34> about you,
> judging by the frequency with which you post to them, tholen.
> 
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

On your partt, ttholen.

> 34> Gee, one little typo and you can't see past it.
> 
> What do your typo and classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
> OS/2, tv, amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball, Wesson?

My set of classic erroneous presupposittions is emptty, tttholen, 
remember?

> 34> I think I already answered that oone, thoolen.
> 
> Having attribution problems, Wesson?

Noot at all, thooolen, but thanks for your cooooncern. fucking 'o' key!

> 34> Delenn's brother.
> 
> Why are you addressing Delenn's brother in this newsgroup, Wesson?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, tholen?

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

35> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

35> Successful atteempt, tholeen.

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

35> No, but thanks for yoour cooncern, thooolen.

Who is "thooolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

35> A vacuous claim, since my set of classic erroneous presuppositions
has
35> cardinality zeero, tholeen.

Who is "tholeen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

35> Oon yoour part, thooolen.

Who is "thooolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

35> Not at alll, thollen, but thanks foor your concern.

Who is "thollen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

35> On your partt, ttholen.

Who is "ttholen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

35> My set of classic erroneous presupposittions is emptty, tttholen,
35> remember?

Who is "tttholen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

35> Noot at all, thooolen, but thanks for your cooooncern.

Who is "thooolen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

35> fucking 'o' key!

What does your foul language have to do with OS/2, Wesson?

35> What does your question have to do with OS/2, tholen?

You should know, Wesson, given that you addressed Delenn's brother
in this newsgroup.

On Sun, 15 May 2011 01:57:25 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Who is thooolen
>
> Who is tholeen
>
> Who is ttholen

etc.

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 35> What does your question have to do with OS/2, tholen?
> 
> You should know, Wesson, given that you addressed Delenn's brother in
> this newsgroup.

OK, I think I'm done arguing with this dolt. I've seen autoresponders 
show more creativity than the tholenbot. Enough is enough.

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

36> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

36> etc.

What does that have to do with OS/2, amateur radio, classical
music, or college basketball, Wesson?

36> OK, I think I'm done arguing with this dolt.

What does your arguing with yourself have to do with OS/2,
amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball, Wesson?

36> I've seen autoresponders show more creativity than
36> the tholenbot.

Who is "the tholenbot", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

36> Enough is enough.

What do your Famous Last Words have to do with OS/2, amateur
radio, classical music, or college basketball, Wesson?

On Sun, 15 May 2011 03:34:45 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 36> OK, I think I'm done arguing with this dolt.
> 
> What does your arguing with yourself have to do with OS/2, amateur
> radio, classical music, or college basketball, Wesson?

Not myself -- you, dolt. I'm done arguing with you.

On May 16, 9:18=A0am, Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2011 03:34:45 -0700, tho...@antispam.ham wrote:
> > Ken Wesson <kwes...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > 36> OK, I think I'm done arguing with this dolt.
>
> > What does your arguing with yourself have to do with OS/2, amateur
> > radio, classical music, or college basketball, Wesson?
>
> Not myself -- you, dolt. I'm done arguing with you.

Is that a promise?

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

37> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

37> Not myself

Classic contradiction, given that you just finished making
a clear and unambiguous reference to "this dolt", Wesson.
You do understand the difference between "this" and "that",
don't you, Wesson?

37> -- you, dolt.

Who is "dolt", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias, though you did refer to yourself that
way in your previous posting.

37> I'm done arguing with you.

Obviously not, which is why I called them Famous Last Words,
Wesson.

Lora Crighton writes:

79> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

79> Is that a promise?

Why do you think I called them Famous Last Words, Crighton?

On Mon, 16 May 2011 11:56:04 -0700, tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

> Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 37> Not myself
> 
> Classic contradiction, given that you just finished making a clear and
> unambiguous reference to

you, thholen.

> You do understand the difference between "this" and "that", don't you,
> Wesson?

What does your ridiculous question have to do with OS/2, tholenn?

> 37> -- you, dolt.
> 
> Who is "dolt", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
> alias, though you did refer to yourself that way in your previous
> posting.

I did not, theelon. I was referring to you.

> 37> I'm done arguing with you.
> 
> Obviously not

I'm not arguing with you now, I'm just contradicting you.

M:  You didn't.
A:  Did.
M:  Oh look, this isn't an argument.
A:  Yes it is.
M:  No it isn't. It's just contradiction.
A:  No it isn't.
M:  It is!
A:  It is not.
M:  Look, you just contradicted me.
A:  I did not.
M:  Oh you did!!
A:  No, no, no.
M:  You did just then.
A:  Nonsense!
M:  Oh, this is futile!
A:  No it isn't.
M:  I came here for a good argument.
A:  No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M:  An argument isn't just contradiction.
A:  It can be.
M:  No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended
    to establish a proposition.
A:  No it isn't.
M:  Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A:  Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M:  Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A:  Yes it is!
M:  No it isn't!
A:  Yes it is!
M:  Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the
    automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.

See?

Ken Wesson <kwesson@gmail.com> writes:

38> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.music.classical,rec.sport.basketball.college

38> you, thholen.

Who is "thholen", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

38> What does your ridiculous question have to do with OS/2, tholenn?

Who is "tholenn", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

38> I did not, theelon. I was referring to you.

Who is "theelon", Wesson?  There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

38> I'm not arguing with you now, I'm just contradicting you.

What does your contradiction have to do with OS/2,
amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball,
Wesson?

38> M:  You didn't.
38> A:  Did.
38> M:  Oh look, this isn't an argument.
38> A:  Yes it is.
38> M:  No it isn't. It's just contradiction.
38> A:  No it isn't.
38> M:  It is!
38> A:  It is not.
38> M:  Look, you just contradicted me.
38> A:  I did not.
38> M:  Oh you did!!
38> A:  No, no, no.
38> M:  You did just then.
38> A:  Nonsense!
38> M:  Oh, this is futile!
38> A:  No it isn't.
38> M:  I came here for a good argument.
38> A:  No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
38> M:  An argument isn't just contradiction.
38> A:  It can be.
38> M:  No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements
intended
38>     to establish a proposition.
38> A:  No it isn't.
38> M:  Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
38> A:  Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
38> M:  Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
38> A:  Yes it is!
38> M:  No it isn't!
38> A:  Yes it is!
38> M:  Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the
38>     automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.

What does your reproduction of a Monty Python routine have
to do with OS/2, amateur radio, classical music, or college
basketball, Wesson?

38> See?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, amateur radio,
classical music, or college basketball, Wesson?

And some people wonder why I call them "Famous Last Words".

"tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote

> What does your contradiction have to do with OS/2,
> amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball,
> Wesson?

Is there *anything* that has to do with all those things?

--Tedward 

"The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <ei@o.com> writes:

64> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

64> Is there *anything* that has to do with all those things?

My question has to do with all those things, Kennedy.
And why couldn't you figure that out for yourself,
Kennedy?  Was it your peculiar emotional need to
"make you reply" getting in the way again?

"The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <ei@o.com> wrote in message 
news:irh5ei$233$2@dont-email.me...
> "tholen@antispam.ham" <tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote
>
>> What does your contradiction have to do with OS/2,
>> amateur radio, classical music, or college basketball,
>> Wesson?
>
> Is there *anything* that has to do with all those things?
>
> --Tedward
>

where are we?
what the hell is going on?
the dust has only just begun to form
crop circles in the carpet
sinking feeling

spin me round again
and rub my eyes,
this can't be happening
when busy streets a mess with people
would stop to hold their heads heavy

hide and seek
trains and sewing machines
all those years
they were here first--Imogen Heap

"Ala" <alackrity@comcast.net> writes:

1> Newsgroups:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college

1> where are we?
1> what the hell is going on?
1> the dust has only just begun to form
1> crop circles in the carpet
1> sinking feeling

1> spin me round again
1> and rub my eyes,
1> this can't be happening
1> when busy streets a mess with people
1> would stop to hold their heads heavy

1> hide and seek
1> trains and sewing machines
1> all those years
1> they were here first--Imogen Heap

What does your posting have to do with
comp.os.os2.advocacy,rec.arts.tv,
rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.sport.basketball.college, Ala?