braindead languages? - comp.lang.perl.misc

Laura wrote: > perldoc perltoot | grep 'braindead' -A 1 -B 1 > > :-) I went through a perl phase a few years ago. At the time friend described perl as a 'write only language'. I asked what he meant and he explained that once it is written it is impossible for a human to read. I've more or less come to agree with that assessment. -- "If our hypothesis is about anything and not about some one or more particular things, then our deductions constitute mathematics. Thus mathematics may be defined as the subject in which we never know what we are talking about, nor whether what we are saying is true." - Bertrand Russell

Laura <lwt0301@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:10p2a8hlu4vro74 @news.supernews.com: > perldoc perltoot | grep 'braindead' -A 1 -B 1 > ITYM perldoc perltoot | grep -A1 -B1 braindead Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... Sinan.

A. Sinan Unur wrote: > ITYM I think she means to sabotage the group by increasing the noise level. Her flamebait was posted to C++ and Java groups as well - with followups directed here, so that c.l.p.m gets all of the outraged responses from the denizens of those groups. sherm-- -- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org

Please don't feed the troll by replying to this. Note where followups are directed - she obviously intends to sabotage the Perl group by flooding it with outraged flames from the denizens of the C++ and Java groups. sherm--

A. Sinan Unur wrote: > Laura <lwt0301@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:10p2a8hlu4vro74 > @news.supernews.com: > >> perldoc perltoot | grep 'braindead' -A 1 -B 1 >> > > ITYM > > perldoc perltoot | grep -A1 -B1 braindead > > Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... > > Sinan. TMTOWTDI

Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org> wrote in news:R4ednZZu9s64qQzcRVn- og@adelphia.com: > A. Sinan Unur wrote: > >> ITYM > > I think she means to sabotage the group by increasing the noise level. > Her flamebait was posted to C++ and Java groups as well - with followups > directed here, so that c.l.p.m gets all of the outraged responses from > the denizens of those groups. Ah, I am really sorry ... I did not pay attention. Should have known better. Thanks for pointing it out. -- A. Sinan Unur 1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid (remove '.invalid' and reverse each component for email address)

"Laura" <lwt0301@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:10p2a8hlu4vro74@news.supernews.com... > perldoc perltoot | grep 'braindead' -A 1 -B 1 > A rather pointless post if ever there was one, especially since you seem to hope it will be taken out of context: <quote> There, if that doesn't excite the Scheme folks, then I just don't know what will. Translation of this technique into C++, Java, or any other braindead-static language is left as a futile exercise for aficionados of those camps. .... If you were wondering when Hubris, the third principle virtue of a programmer, would come into play, here you have it. (More seriously, Hubris is just the pride in craftsmanship that comes from having written a sound bit of well-designed code.) </quote> In other words, for the less cranially developed such as yourself, that paragraph was meant to be taken tongue-in-cheek. Matt

Sherm Pendley wrote: > Please don't feed the troll by replying to this. Agreed. And since we don't want to see 'debates' bases on such braindead wordings, maybe somebody should better reconsider the including of such troll invitations in the docs? Just a thought. -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl

On 9 Nov 2004 21:06:07 GMT, "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> wrote: >ITYM > >perldoc perltoot | grep -A1 -B1 braindead > >Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... Sorry to disagree with you and implicitly agree with the troll, but she's right: it will work the other way too, even though the usage line suggests differently. I don't know with more ancient implementations, but nowadays grep is often GNU grep, and the cmd line is processed with GNU getopts library a feature of which being that switches can appear almost anywhere and in any order. Some times it is necessary to protect the pattern with -e, and I often use it anyway for clarity, even if redundant. Note: what I wrote may be sloppy technically in some places, but should be fundamentally correct. Michele -- {$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr (($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB=' ..'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_, 256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,

Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it> wrote in news:h9k3p0hkdg1pfrobr6alp0isb4e2e5tbpo@4ax.com: > On 9 Nov 2004 21:06:07 GMT, "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> > wrote: > >>ITYM >> >>perldoc perltoot | grep -A1 -B1 braindead >> >>Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... > > Sorry to disagree with you and implicitly agree with the troll, but > she's right: it will work the other way too, even though the usage > line suggests differently. I don't know with more ancient > implementations, but nowadays grep is often GNU grep, Thanks for the correction :) For what it is worth, I had actually tried the OP's version using cygwin grep, and gotten asu1@AardvarkIV ~ $ perldoc perltoot | grep 'braindead' -A 1 -B 1 grep: -A: No such file or directory grep: 1: No such file or directory grep: -B: No such file or directory grep: 1: No such file or directory Upon reading your post, I also tried on a Linux machine, and it worked. Good to know. -- A. Sinan Unur 1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid (remove '.invalid' and reverse each component for email address)