Slightly OT - development platform

My aging PC is coming to the end of its life and I've specced a new machine but before I spend the money I'm looking round at alternatives. I'm drawn to the very sexy Macs but I've never had one and I wondered if anyone was using one for PHP and MySql web development? I generally use Notepad++ as an editor - is there something similar available for a Mac? I don't need to run a server locally, I usually work by ftp ing files directly to the server, but obviously I may want to. I suppose what I want is for the Mac to do everything my PC does, without any hassle. Is this possible? Or have I just been taken in by the look of the thing? -- Geoff Berrow 0110001001101100010000000110 001101101011011001000110111101100111001011 100110001101101111001011100111010101101011 http://slipperyhill.co.uk - http://4theweb.co.uk

Geoff Berrow schreef: > My aging PC is coming to the end of its life and I've specced a new > machine but before I spend the money I'm looking round at alternatives. > > I'm drawn to the very sexy Macs but I've never had one and I wondered if > anyone was using one for PHP and MySql web development? > > I generally use Notepad++ as an editor - is there something similar > available for a Mac? > > I don't need to run a server locally, I usually work by ftp ing files > directly to the server, but obviously I may want to. > > I suppose what I want is for the Mac to do everything my PC does, > without any hassle. Is this possible? Or have I just been taken in by > the look of the thing? I use Notepad++ too. I haven't been able to find equivalent lightweight editors for a Mac with the equivalent flexibility of Notepad++. When I'm working on my Mac I now use the freeware TextWrangler, which is pretty good IMO: http://www.barebones.com/products/TextWrangler/ If you have a few bucks to spare I would recommend Coda: http://www.panic.com/coda/ (unable to reach the host at this moment though) Not nessecerally lightweight, but pretty sleek. -- Amygdala http://amygdala.110mb.com/

Geoff Berrow wrote: > My aging PC is coming to the end of its life and I've specced a new > machine but before I spend the money I'm looking round at > alternatives. Slightly? It's totally off topic. Would you like some help with baking your cake as well?

Message-ID: <X_HAl.196$y61.85@news-server.bigpond.net.au> from rf contained the following: >> My aging PC is coming to the end of its life and I've specced a new >> machine but before I spend the money I'm looking round at >> alternatives. > >Slightly? It's totally off topic. I disagree. It's a question about a development platform for PHP. It's no more off topic than people who ask about editors. > >Would you like some help with baking your cake as well? No, I'm ok on that one. Would you like a recipe? -- Geoff Berrow 0110001001101100010000000110 001101101011011001000110111101100111001011 100110001101101111001011100111010101101011 http://slipperyhill.co.uk - http://4theweb.co.uk

On 1 Apr, 10:03, Geoff Berrow <blthe...@ckdog.co.uk> wrote: > My aging PC is coming to the end of its life and I've specced a new > machine but before I spend the money I'm looking round at alternatives. > > I'm drawn to the very sexy Macs but I've never had one and I wondered if > anyone was using one for PHP and MySql web development? > > I generally use Notepad++ as an editor - is there something similar > available for a Mac? > There's lots. Eclipse and vim spring to mind (which are available on MAC, MS-Win, Linux and others). Here's some more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PHP_editors C.

Geoff Berrow wrote: > My aging PC is coming to the end of its life and I've specced a new > machine but before I spend the money I'm looking round at alternatives. > > I'm drawn to the very sexy Macs but I've never had one and I wondered if > anyone was using one for PHP and MySql web development? > > I generally use Notepad++ as an editor - is there something similar > available for a Mac? Smultron works peretty well..but. > > I don't need to run a server locally, I usually work by ftp ing files > directly to the server, but obviously I may want to. > > I suppose what I want is for the Mac to do everything my PC does, > without any hassle. Is this possible? Or have I just been taken in by > the look of the thing? It wont run IE6/7/8 for web validation. Actually., I scrapped the mac..too slow (old G4) and for the price of halfaMac, I got a new Pee Cee, stuffed Linux on it, AND VMware and an old XP pro.. So using geany as the editor - really bloody good - I have a best of all worlds platform With the gnome desktop, I can have half a dozen virtual screens. One runs the editing, one is for mail, onene is for browsing, one is a Firefox view of the development site, and one is called windows, and has windows running in it with IE6.. You could do the same with an Intel Mac running Vmware etc. but why spend extra?

Geoff Berrow wrote: > Message-ID: <snip> from rf contained the following: >> [restore snipped attribute; Geoff Berrow wrote:] >>> My aging PC is coming to the end of its life and I've specced a new >>> machine but before I spend the money I'm looking round at >>> alternatives. >> >> Slightly? It's totally off topic. > > I disagree. It's a question about a development platform for PHP. It's > no more off topic than people who ask about editors. Get any PC running Linux or Windows, and install LAMP or WAMP. For an editor, I prefer Bluefish. -- -bts -Friends don't let friends drive Windows

Geoff Berrow wrote: > Message-ID: <X_HAl.196$y61.85@news-server.bigpond.net.au> from rf > contained the following: > >>> My aging PC is coming to the end of its life and I've specced a new >>> machine but before I spend the money I'm looking round at >>> alternatives. >> >> Slightly? It's totally off topic. > I disagree. It's a question about a development platform for PHP. > It's no more off topic than people who ask about editors. So where in your OP was PHP mentioned. Where did you mention development platforms. What does it bloody matter? PHP et al will run on any computer you can buy these days, even the cheapest and nastiest of them. It does not matter to us what sort of computer you use. We are here to answer questions about PHP, after all. By *your* reasoning can you tell me any newsgroup you think your post might be *off* topic in? Alt.cooking perhaps but being that your current computer cannot perhaps fit in your latest curried egg sandwich recipe and you need a better one it might just be on topic there. What about *on* topic? Perhaps microsoft.c++ will help, You need a computer for that. What about alt.sexy.pictures. Lots of ativity there. Big bandwith required. Apologies for being devils advocate but crikey, where do the boundaries of a PHP newsgroup begin?

On Apr 1, 10:03=A0am, Geoff Berrow <blthe...@ckdog.co.uk> wrote: > My aging PC is coming to the end of its life and I've specced a new > machine but before I spend the money I'm looking round at alternatives. > > I'm drawn to the very sexy Macs but I've never had one and I wondered if > anyone was using one for PHP and MySql web development? > > I generally use Notepad++ as an editor - is there something similar > available for a Mac? > > I don't need to run a server locally, I usually work by ftp ing files > directly to the server, but obviously I may want to. > > I suppose what I want is for the Mac to do everything my PC does, > without any hassle. =A0Is this possible? =A0Or have I just been taken in = by > the look of the thing? > -- > Geoff Berrow =A00110001001101100010000000110 > 001101101011011001000110111101100111001011 > 100110001101101111001011100111010101101011http://slipperyhill.co.uk-http:= //4theweb.co.uk I'm using a Mac here without issue, the only problem you might run into is how do you test in Internet Explorer? You can use a virtual machine solution to this, it does kind of feel like using a sledgehammer to smash a nut but it works well enough. Apple provide a pre-built PHP with their machines but it's minimalist (to put it kindly), so I'd recommend grabbing the PHP package from www.entropy.ch instead. It includes a bigger set of modules. I'm using Postgres here so can't recommend a good MySQL installer. http://www.mamp.info/en/index.html might be of use as well for you if you're working in a MySQL based environment. Like I said I'm using Postgres so this isn't really of use to me. As for editors, TextWrangler is a pretty nice lightweight editor, and of course there's also the option of using Eclipse, or the commercial Dreamweaver if that's your things.

Now, I'm not stickin' up for Geoff, but.. rf wrote: > So where in your OP was PHP mentioned. Where did you mention development > platforms. Body: "sexy Macs .. for PHP and MySql web development?" Subject: "..development platform" :-) -- -bts -Friends don't let friends drive Windows

Message-ID: <yoKAl.224$y61.210@news-server.bigpond.net.au> from rf contained the following: >Apologies for being devils advocate but crikey, where do the boundaries of a >PHP newsgroup begin? Never even knew there was a wicket... -- Geoff Berrow 0110001001101100010000000110 001101101011011001000110111101100111001011 100110001101101111001011100111010101101011 http://slipperyhill.co.uk - http://4theweb.co.uk

I use an iMac at work but I've set it up as a dual boot with Ubuntu linux which I always use (I never use it through OSX, its just there 'just in case'). This way I have the best of both worlds, a great looking computer and all the benefits of linux (easy setup of LAMP environment etc). Incidentally, I use Zend Studio 5.5 on linux, which is my favorite editor. However, Komodo Edit is a free editor from http://www.openkomodo.com/ and is really nice. Ity works on mac/linux and windows too!

"Geoff Berrow" <blthecat@ckdog.co.uk> wrote in message news:q3b6t4pib0k7v5egq0jbhjovvgq0rdj51n@4ax.com... > > I suppose what I want is for the Mac to do everything my PC does, > without any hassle. Is this possible? Or have I just been taken in by > the look of the thing? I'm using Zend Studio - the old, version 5. The current version is built on Eclipse. Either way, there are releases for all the big OS's - Windows, Mac, Unix, Linux... and some OS's I never heard of. That means that, regardless of which PC you're at, there's a version that runs on it. That frees you up to choose your platform on other issues - because Zend just ain't an issue. One of the reasons Zend is so excellent is because they were *very* involved in the development of the PHP language, almost from the git-go.

On Apr 11, 10:22=A0am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote: > "Geoff Berrow" <blthe...@ckdog.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:q3b6t4pib0k7v5egq0jbhjovvgq0rdj51n@4ax.com... > > > > > I suppose what I want is for the Mac to do everything my PC does, > > without any hassle. =A0Is this possible? =A0Or have I just been taken i= n by > > the look of the thing? > > I'm using Zend Studio - the old, version 5. > The current version is built on Eclipse. > Either way, there are releases for all the big OS's - Windows, Mac, Unix, > Linux... and some OS's I never heard of. > That means that, regardless of which PC you're at, there's a version that > runs on it. > That frees you up to choose your platform on other issues - because Zend > just ain't an issue. > > One of the reasons Zend is so excellent is because they were *very* invol= ved > in the development of the PHP language, almost from the git-go. I use Xampp and conEdit running under vista, gives my laptop somethign to do other than stream music. It php 5 and mysql 5 actally behave very well under vista. Bill H

On Apr 11, 3:22=A0pm, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote: > "Geoff Berrow" <blthe...@ckdog.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:q3b6t4pib0k7v5egq0jbhjovvgq0rdj51n@4ax.com... > > > > > I suppose what I want is for the Mac to do everything my PC does, > > without any hassle. =A0Is this possible? =A0Or have I just been taken i= n by > > the look of the thing? > > I'm using Zend Studio - the old, version 5. > The current version is built on Eclipse. > Either way, there are releases for all the big OS's - Windows, Mac, Unix, > Linux... and some OS's I never heard of. > That means that, regardless of which PC you're at, there's a version that > runs on it. > That frees you up to choose your platform on other issues - because Zend > just ain't an issue. > > One of the reasons Zend is so excellent is because they were *very* invol= ved > in the development of the PHP language, almost from the git-go. Its good to know I'm not the only one sticking to the old version of Zend Studio (v5/5.5), which in my opinion is much better than the new one. I'm not too keen on the whole eclipse version at all. I can understand WHY they did it...I just dont like it.

"macca" <ptmcnally@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:c7d4752b-d898-4dd4-a102-60cdccda2595@q14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 11, 3:22 pm, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote: >> One of the reasons Zend is so excellent is because they were *very* >> involved >> in the development of the PHP language, almost from the git-go. > > Its good to know I'm not the only one sticking to the old version of > Zend Studio (v5/5.5), which in my opinion is much better than the new > one. I'm not too keen on the whole eclipse version at all. I can > understand WHY they did it...I just dont like it. I really would upgrade to the Eclipse version - if I had a few hundred extra dollars to spend. I'm not sure what the benefits are, but one would be getting used to the using the Eclipse IDE.