python-dev Summary for 2004-06-01 through 2004-06-15python-dev Summary for 2004-06-01 through 2004-06-15
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This is a summary of traffic on the `python-dev mailing list`_ from June
01, 2004 through June 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the wider
Python community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on
anything mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a
subject line mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members
are interested in seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don't
hesitate to take a stance on something. And if all of this really
interests you then get involved and join `python-dev`_!
This is the forty-third summary written by Brett Cannon (wonder if that
summary
count is correct?).
To contact me, please send email to brett at python.org ; I do not have
the time to keep up on comp.lang.python and thus do not always catch
follow-ups posted there.
All summaries are archived at http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ .
Please note that this summary is written using reStructuredText_ which
can be found at http://docutils.sf.net/rst.html . Any unfamiliar
punctuation is probably markup for reST_ (otherwise it is probably
regular expression syntax or a typo =); you can safely ignore it,
although I suggest learning reST; it's simple and is accepted for `PEP
markup`_ and gives some perks for the HTML output. Also...
python-dev Summary for 2004-08-01 through 2004-08-15python-dev Summary for 2004-08-01 through 2004-08-15
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August 01, 2004 through August 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the
wider Python community of on-going developments on the list. To comment
on anything mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a
subject line mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members
are interested in seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don&...
python-dev Summary for 2004-07-01 through 2004-07-15python-dev Summary for 2004-07-01 through 2004-07-15
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01, 2004 through July 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the wider
Python community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on
anything mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a
subject line mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members
are interested in seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don'...
python-dev Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-15This is a summary of traffic on the `python-dev mailing list`_ from October 01,
2004 through October 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the wider Python
community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on anything
mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a subject line
mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members are interested in
seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don't hesitate to take a stance on
something. And if all of this really interests you then get involve...
python-dev Summary for 2004-08-01 through 2004-08-15python-dev Summary for 2004-08-01 through 2004-08-15
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This is a summary of traffic on the `python-dev mailing list`_ from
August 01, 2004 through August 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the
wider Python community of on-going developments on the list. To comment
on anything mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a
subject line mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members
are interested in seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don't
hesitate to take a stance on something. And if all of this really
interests you then get involved and join `python-dev`_!
This is the forty-sixth summary written by Brett Cannon (two freakin' years
doing this; I *am* nuts).
To contact me, please send email to brett at python.org ; I do not have
the time to keep up on comp.lang.python and thus do not always catch
follow-ups posted there.
All summaries are archived at http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ .
Please note that this summary is written using reStructuredText_ which
can be found at http://docutils.sf.net/rst.html . Any unfamiliar
punctuation is probably markup for reST_ (otherwise it is probably
regular expression syntax or a typo =); you can safely ignore it,
although I suggest learning reST; it's simple and is accepted for `PEP
markup`_ and gives some perks for the HTML outpu...
python-dev Summary for 2004-12-01 through 2004-12-15This is a summary of traffic on the `python-dev mailing list`_ from December
01, 2004 through December 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the wider Python
community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on anything
mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a subject line
mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members are interested in
seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don't hesitate to take a stance on
something. And if all of this really interests you then get invol...
python-dev Summary for 2004-04-01 through 2004-04-30python-dev Summary for 2004-04-01 through 2004-04-30
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April 01, 2004 through April 30, 2004. It is intended to inform the
wider Python community of on-going developments on the list. To comment
on anything mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a
subject line mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members
are interested in seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don...
python-dev Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-15This is a summary of traffic on the `python-dev mailing list`_ from October 01,
2004 through October 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the wider Python
community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on anything
mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a subject line
mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members are interested in
seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don't hesitate to take a stance on
something. And if all of this really interests you then get involved and join
`python-dev`_!
This is the fiftieth summary written by Brett Cannon (Time for my summary
mid-life crisis).
To contact me, please send email to brett at python.org ; I do not have the
time to keep up on comp.lang.python and thus do not always catch follow-ups
posted there.
All summaries are archived at http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ .
Please note that this summary is written using reStructuredText_ which can be
found at http://docutils.sf.net/rst.html . Any unfamiliar punctuation is
probably markup for reST_ (otherwise it is probably regular expression syntax
or a typo =); you can safely ignore it, although I suggest learning reST; it's
simple and is accepted for `PEP markup`_ and gives some perks for the HTML
output. Also, because of the wonders of programs that like to reformat text, I
cannot guarantee you will be able to run th...
python-dev Summary for 2004-09-01 through 2004-09-15python-dev Summary for 2004-09-01 through 2004-09-15
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01, 2004 through September 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the wider Python
community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on anything
mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a subject line
mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members are interested in
seeing ideas discussed by the community, s...
python-dev Summary for 2004-12-01 through 2004-12-15This is a summary of traffic on the `python-dev mailing list`_ from December
01, 2004 through December 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the wider Python
community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on anything
mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a subject line
mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members are interested in
seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don't hesitate to take a stance on
something. And if all of this really interests you then get involved and join
`python-dev`_!
This is the fifty-fourth summary written by Brett Cannon (amazed no one has
complained about the lateness of these summaries!).
To contact me, please send email to brett at python.org ; I do not have the
time to keep up on comp.lang.python and thus do not always catch follow-ups
posted there.
All summaries are archived at http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ .
Please note that this summary is written using reStructuredText_ which can be
found at http://docutils.sf.net/rst.html . Any unfamiliar punctuation is
probably markup for reST_ (otherwise it is probably regular expression syntax
or a typo =); you can safely ignore it, although I suggest learning reST; it's
simple and is accepted for `PEP markup`_ and gives some perks for the HTML
output. Also, because of the wonders of programs that like to reformat text, I
canno...
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01, 2004 through September 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the wider Python
community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on anything
mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a subject line
mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members are interested in
seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don't hesitate to take a stance on
something. And if all of this really interests you then get involved and join
`python-dev`_!
This is the forty-eighth summary written by Brett Cannon (hopefully school
won't drown my this quarter).
To contact me, please send email to brett at python.org ; I do not have the
time to keep up on comp.lang.python and thus do not always catch follow-ups
posted there.
All summaries are archived at http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ .
Please note that this summary is written using reStructuredText_ which can be
found at http://docutils.sf.net/rst.html . Any unfamiliar punctuation is
probably markup for reST_ (otherwise it is probably regular expression syntax
or a typo =); you can safely ignore it, although I suggest learning reST; it's
simple and is accepted for `PEP markup`_ and gives some perks for the HT...
python-dev Summary for 2004-11-01 through 2004-11-15python-dev Summary for 2004-11-01 through 2004-11-15
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01, 2004 through November 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the wider Python
community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on anything
mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a subject line
mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members are interested in
seeing ideas discussed by the community, so ...
python-dev Summary for 2004-07-01 through 2004-07-15python-dev Summary for 2004-07-01 through 2004-07-15
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01, 2004 through July 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the wider
Python community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on
anything mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a
subject line mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members
are interested in seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don't
hesitate to take a stance on something. And if all of this really
interests you then get involved and join `python-dev`_!
This is the forty-forth summary written by Brett Cannon (wished he could
be at
OSCON to see Guido throw a pie).
To contact me, please send email to brett at python.org ; I do not have
the time to keep up on comp.lang.python and thus do not always catch
follow-ups posted there.
All summaries are archived at http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ .
Please note that this summary is written using reStructuredText_ which
can be found at http://docutils.sf.net/rst.html . Any unfamiliar
punctuation is probably markup for reST_ (otherwise it is probably
regular expression syntax or a typo =); you can safely ignore it,
although I suggest learning reST; it's simple and is accepted for `PEP
markup`_ and gives some perks for the HTML o...
python-dev Summary for 2004-04-01 through 2004-04-30python-dev Summary for 2004-04-01 through 2004-04-30
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April 01, 2004 through April 30, 2004. It is intended to inform the
wider Python community of on-going developments on the list. To comment
on anything mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a
subject line mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members
are interested in seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don't
hesitate to take a stance on something. And if all of this really
interests you then get involved and join `python-dev`_!
This is the thirty-ninth and fortieth summary written by Brett Cannon
(Should
be doing homework instead).
To contact me, please send email to brett at python.org ; I do not have
the time to keep up on comp.lang.python and thus do not always catch
follow-ups posted there.
All summaries are archived at http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ .
Please note that this summary is written using reStructuredText_ which
can be found at http://docutils.sf.net/rst.html . Any unfamiliar
punctuation is probably markup for reST_ (otherwise it is probably
regular expression syntax or a typo =); you can safely ignore it,
although I suggest learning reST; it's simple and is accepted for `PEP
markup`_ and gives some perks for the HTML outpu...
python-dev Summary for 2004-06-01 through 2004-06-15python-dev Summary for 2004-06-01 through 2004-06-15
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01, 2004 through June 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the wider
Python community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on
anything mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a
subject line mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members
are interested in seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don'...
python-dev Summary for 2005-01-01 through 2005-01-15This is a summary of traffic on the `python-dev mailing list`_ from January 01,
2005 through January 15, 2005. It is intended to inform the wider Python
community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on anything
mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a subject line
mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members are interested in
seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don't hesitate to take a stance on
something. And if all of this really interests you then get involved and join
`python-dev`_!
This is the fifty-sixth summary written by Brett Cannon (I don't want to do my
homework).
To contact me, please send email to brett at python.org ; I do not have the
time to keep up on comp.lang.python and thus do not always catch follow-ups
posted there.
All summaries are archived at http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ .
Please note that this summary is written using reStructuredText_ which can be
found at http://docutils.sf.net/rst.html . Any unfamiliar punctuation is
probably markup for reST_ (otherwise it is probably regular expression syntax
or a typo =); you can safely ignore it, although I suggest learning reST; it's
simple and is accepted for `PEP markup`_ and gives some perks for the HTML
output. Also, because of the wonders of programs that like to reformat text, I
cannot guarantee you will be able to run ...
python-dev Summary for 2005-01-01 through 2005-01-15This is a summary of traffic on the `python-dev mailing list`_ from January 01,
2005 through January 15, 2005. It is intended to inform the wider Python
community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on anything
mentioned here, just post to `comp.lang.python`_ (or email
python-list@python.org which is a gateway to the newsgroup) with a subject line
mentioning what you are discussing. All python-dev members are interested in
seeing ideas discussed by the community, so don't hesitate to take a stance on
something. And if all of this really interests you then get involved and join
`python-dev`_!
This is the fifty-sixth summary written by Brett Cannon (I don't want to do my
homework).
To contact me, please send email to brett at python.org ; I do not have the
time to keep up on comp.lang.python and thus do not always catch follow-ups
posted there.
All summaries are archived at http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ .
Please note that this summary is written using reStructuredText_ which can be
found at http://docutils.sf.net/rst.html . Any unfamiliar punctuation is
probably markup for reST_ (otherwise it is probably regular expression syntax
or a typo =); you can safely ignore it, although I suggest learning reST; it's
simple and is accepted for `PEP markup`_ and gives some perks for the HTML
output. Also, because of the wonders of programs that like to reformat text, I
cannot guarantee you will be able to run the text version of this ...
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QOTF: Quote of the Fortnight
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Guido, on the crashability of Python:
I'm not saying it's uncrashable. I'm saying that if you crash it,
it's a bug unless proven harebrained.
Contributing thread:
- `Include ctypes into core Python?
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-January/059621.html>`_
[SJB]
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Brett Cannon looking for Ph.D. ideas
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Brett Cannon is looking for Python-related ideas to form the subject
of his PhD dissertation, under Eric Wohlstadter at the University of
British Columbia. He has three areas in which he has possible funding
(XML integration, game scripting support, and AOP); he is open to
grants from anyone else interested in particular Python development.=20
If anyone has suggestions for topics, Brett is listening!
So far:
* Phillip J. Eby mentioned that he has been doing some research on
implementing a non-traditional form of AOP in Python.
* Bill Janssen suggested a system to compile Python to AJAX.
* Steve Holden suggested a Python learning system.
* Ian Bicking suggested Boxer_ implemented for Python.
* Armin Rigo suggested PyPy related w...
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QOTF: Quote of the Fortnight
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Guido, on the crashability of Python:
I'm not saying it's uncrashable. I'm saying that if you crash it,
it's a bug unless proven harebrained.
Contributing thread:
- `Include ctypes into core Python?
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-January/059621.html>`_
[...
RE: python-dev Summary for 2004-08-01 through 2004-08-15Anthony Baxter wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:50:48 -0700, Brett Cannon=20
> <bac@ocf.berkeley.edu> wrote:
> > At this point people should be hashing out which syntax=20
> alternative they
> > want to present to Guido on comp.lang.python_. No more talking on
> > python-dev, no more syntax proposals. The community should=20
> set a goal
> > date (Sept. 1 seems good) and just choose a bloody alternative. =20
>=20
> One point I mentioned to Brett, but that he forgot to update (bad
> summariser! no cookie for you!) is that Sept 1 is way, way, w...
RE: python-dev Summary for 2004-08-01 through 2004-08-15 #2Brett C. wrote:
> I just don't want people to suddenly get the impression that they can
> always just throw a little mutiny every time Guido makes a decision.=20
> Do that and he will just ignore what people want period and never even
> give people a chance to propose an alternative once it reaches
> python-dev.
Well said.
> And I want people to realize my tirade was just that, a personal
> tirade. It was out of frustration and thus should be taken with a
> grain of salt.
But that frustration is grounded in reality.
> And that frustration came from the feeli...
python-dev Summary for 2006-01-16 through 2006-01-31Sorry the summaries are so late. We were late already, and it's taken
me a bit of time to get set up with the new python.org site. But I
should be all good now, and hopefully we'll get caught up with all the
summaries by the end of May. Hope you all weren't too depressed
without your bi-weekly python-dev updates! ;-)
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Google summer internships
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Google is looking to fill an unprecedented number of `student intern
positions`_ this (US) summer, at several US locations (Mountain View,
Santa Monica, Kirkland (Wash.), and New York). The perks are
incredible, and Google is not just looking for software development
interns - there are also product management positions, and UI design
and usability analyst positions.
Contributing thread:
- `Know anyone interested in a Google internship?
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-January/060047.html>`__
.. _student intern positions: http://www.google.com/jobs/intern.html
[TAM]
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Possible Summer of PyPy
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Armin Rigo announced the possibil...
python-dev Summary for 2006-01-16 through 2006-01-31Sorry the summaries are so late. We were late already, and it's taken
me a bit of time to get set up with the new python.org site. But I
should be all good now, and hopefully we'll get caught up with all the
summaries by the end of May. Hope you all weren't too depressed
without your bi-weekly python-dev updates! ;-)
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