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I am curious about how many people just use Tcl for a systems language (instead of say, BASH) but don't use Tk.
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On Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:22:45 AM UTC-7, Robert wrote: > I am curious about how many people just use Tcl for a systems language (i= nstead of say, BASH) but don't use Tk. For me, if the script is mainly concerned with invoking other programs and = little else, then I'll grit my teeth and do it in bash because it handles s= uch things well even if the syntax is vintage Algol. Otherwise, it is hard = to get me to program in anything other than Tcl when the target is a conven= tional computing environment. Andrew Mangogna
amangogna1On Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:22:45 AM UTC-4, Robert wrote: > I am curious about how many people just use Tcl for a systems language (instead of say, BASH) but don't use Tk. I use tcl, bash, perl, awk. I hardly ever have GUI frontends.
bjlockieΣτις 12/7/2012 16:22, ο/η Robert έγραψε: > I am curious about how many people just use Tcl for a systems language (instead of say, BASH) but don't use Tk. > I use tcl in almost all my scripts. I rarely use bash, and only for basic stuff (i.e. run a few tcl scripts in order). George
petasisgOn 7/12/12 8:22 AM, Robert wrote: > I am curious about how many people just use Tcl for a systems language (instead of say, BASH) but don't use Tk. While not exactly what you asked, I use Tcl to create Web Services -- that does not involve any GUIs (at least directly). Now when needing a GUI, it is Tcl/Tk (maybe with extensions). -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Gerald W. Lester, President, KNG Consulting LLC | | Email: Gerald.Lester@kng-consulting.net | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Gerald.Lester3238Am 12.07.2012 15:22, schrieb Robert: > I am curious about how many people just use Tcl for a systems language (instead of say, BASH) but don't use Tk. > You won't find out how many do this way, there won't be hundreds or thousands of 'me too' (which I guess as a minimum). People use the (script?) language they know. Tcl works very well for scripting of system management, without the 'bird track syntax' of bash. /Str.
sorry_no_mail_hereAt Thu, 12 Jul 2012 06:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Robert <sigzero@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I am curious about how many people just use Tcl for a systems
> language (instead of say, BASH) but don't use Tk.
I use it all the time to write filters and various other sorts of things.
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hellerGeorge Petasis wrote: > Στις 12/7/2012 16:22, ο/η Robert έγραψε: > >> I am curious about how many people just use Tcl for a systems language >> (instead of say, BASH) but don't use Tk. >> > > I use tcl in almost all my scripts. I rarely use bash, and only for > basic stuff (i.e. run a few tcl scripts in order). > > George > I tend to use "make" for a lot of repetitive stuff where a nonlinear toolchain is involved. Then bash, mostly for linear stuff. the tcl scripts or even some c compiled code usually doing things in a "unixy" way, KISS. uwe
uwe6118I now use Tcl to write any program that isn't easier to write in C. As for Tk, I really only use that in the classroom to display a Tcl program= 's operation or output. Unless I'm drawing a picture for someone else, I r= arely need the ability to graphically display anything---although it is hel= pful when cycling through a sequence of microscope images. --S
xcottcraverI, also (at everywhere --Microsft,Apple,Linux--) using Tcl to do commands,browse files and to write documents. As for Tk, I have made an personal text-editor: http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/tcltk-d/ or http://tcltkd.hotcom-web.com/
kishida.youichiOn Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:51:54 AM UTC-4, Gerald W. Lester wrote: > On 7/12/12 8:22 AM, Robert wrote: > > I am curious about how many people just use Tcl for a systems language (instead of say, BASH) but don't use Tk. > > While not exactly what you asked, I use Tcl to create Web Services -- that > does not involve any GUIs (at least directly). I follow that! For others: http://core.tcl.tk/tclws/home Robert
Den torsdagen den 12:e juli 2012 kl. 15:22:45 UTC+2 skrev Robert: > I am curious about how many people just use Tcl for a systems language (i= nstead of say, BASH) but don't use Tk. We use Tcl at work to autogenerate Ada source code and sql ddl scripts from= xml based descriptions. A Tcl script also serves as frontend to invoke gcc with correct switches a= nd envvars, defined in a flat file, to compile/link a somewhat largish system. Also, a whole lot of minor Tcl scripts are used as testtools, to drive othe= r cli applications. We run ON windows,AIX and Linux, and Tcl makes life fairly easy. The rest of the system is Ada. (That is what we autogenerate from the xmls) We use no Tk a all. /Bj=F6rn
b.f.lundinOn Mon, 23 Jul 2012, bj=F6rn lundin wrote:
> Den torsdagen den 12:e juli 2012 kl. 15:22:45 UTC+2 skrev Robert:
> > I am curious about how many people just use Tcl for a systems language =
(instead of say, BASH) but don't use Tk.
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> We use Tcl at work to autogenerate Ada source code and sql ddl scripts fr=
om xml based descriptions.
> A Tcl script also serves as frontend to invoke gcc with correct switches=
and envvars,
> defined in a flat file, to compile/link a somewhat largish system.
>=20
> Also, a whole lot of minor Tcl scripts are used as testtools, to drive ot=
her cli applications.
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> We run ON windows,AIX and Linux, and Tcl makes life fairly easy.
> The rest of the system is Ada. (That is what we autogenerate from the xml=
s)
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> We use no Tk a all.
It's our main integration language between Unix/Linux and Windows.=20
Used for unique command configuration on different platforms, many unix=20
tools (grep, du, tail, ...) have been ported (often only minimal=20
functionality) to have a similar environment or tools and higher level=20
commands, like "find . -mtime +7 -rm {} \;" as one tcl script,=20
multi-file and/or recursive file rename/move/delete - things which are=20
totally absent on Windows but could be easily written in shell scripts=20
on Unix.
Used as "real" Tool Command Language by combining different commands=20
with data transformations between commands (e.g. text output of one=20
command is transposed to defined CVS which is processed by next=20
command, etc.).=20
Creation of platform independent tools like RemoteExecute with client=20
auth (sha512) and encrypted transfer (blowfish) to execute Unix commands=20
on Windows and/or Windows commands on Unix or only on one platform,=20
many, many filter commands to extract specific data from command output,=20
automated file transfer (ftp), etc.
But also much Tk: many graphical user support Tools to avoid missinput,=20
graphical frontends to different commands, file manager GUI which allows=20
file management of unix files on Windows (client/server), Database GUIs,=20
etc.
--=20
Gerhard Reithofer
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Hi everyone, I have been pulling my hair with this one for a couple of days and still have not found a fix. I'm working within ANSYS Tcl-Tk implementation. I created a Tcl-Tk script that generates a simple window with three buttons. Each button opens another window which is created in a separate Tcl file. The second window have a lot of text entries, variables, procedures, etc. I can open the second Tcl file by itself and everything works as supposed, but when I open it using the button in the first window, it opens but any procedure called by the widgets on the second window are not found... Here's the deal... Since I'm working within the ANSYS implementation of Tcl-Tk, I'm actually using an ANSYS command to open the second window. The command I use is: ### ans_sendcommand ~eui,'source O:/mad_projects_2/ANSYS/Macros/ IBR_CAS.tcl' ### It actually sends a command back to ANSYS telling it to execute a Tcl command... I know this is not pretty but its the only way i was able to make it at least show the window. ############################## #Main Tcl (excerpt): ############################## namespace eval Tools { proc IBRCambpell {} { #source O:/mad_projects_2/ANSYS/Macros/IBR_CAS.tcl ans_sendcommand ~eui,'source O:/mad_projects_2/ANSYS/Macros/ IBR_CAS.tcl' } proc viewManager {} { ans_sendcommand ~eui,'source O:/mad_projects_2/ANSYS/Macros/ ViewManager.tcl' } proc powerAnnotation {} { ans_sendcommand ~eui,'source ...
How to compile tcl or encrypt tcl
I use TclPro1.5 to compile my tcl script with tixwish in the Solaris before. But I cannot use the same method in Linux. Why? Is there any utility for me to compile or encrypt the code by using tixwish? The following is the simple code if I use the tixwish: #!/home/albertl/local/bin/tixwish puts "haha" And after using procomp by the TclPro1.5 Error in startup script: The TclPro ByteCode Loader is not available or does not support the correct version while executing "error "The TclPro ByteCode Loader is not available or does not support the correct version""...
tcl application with tcl application
Here is another question, I have one tcl-based application A, my co- worker has a tcl-based application B. Now I want to integrate my application A into the application B. After integration, I want to be able to run A's tcl command in B. Assume I can only change A's code, is there any way to do this? On 17 Dez., 07:03, teacupfull business <teacupfull.busin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Here is another question, I have one tcl-based application A, my co- > worker has a tcl-based application B. Now I want to integrate my > application A into the application B. >...
How Tcl speaks for itself and how Tcl is not spoken for...
Hello It's Friday and... well... Two things about Tcl going through my mind this week, a nice anecdote and a eyebrow-rising thing on Wikipedia: Anecdote: Until three months ago I worked in a scientific institue where I wrote much software in Tcl, especially a big Build and Report System, some tools for automatic checking of coding style and other things. Tcl had a bad reputation there (not because of me... they dropped Tcl before I started there in favour of Joy, then JavaScript and now Python) and besides me, there was only one co-worker who appearantly writes some small Tcl-Scripts to...
Extending TCL in C with tcl.h - Disabliing [<tcl-cmd>] feature
Hi, TCL has a command execution syntax like this: [<tcl cmd>] Anything inside the 3rd bracket will be executed as a Tcl command by the Tcl interprater. Is there any way I can disable/delete this Tcl construct [ <tcl-cmd>]? In other words, my Tcl interprator should print "[32]" for tcl command puts "[32]" It should not try to treat [] as a special character. Is this any way possible while extending Tcl in C with tcl.h? Thank you, Arijit * arijit79@gmail.com | puts "[32]" | | It should not try to treat [] as a special character. Check out the TCL quoting rules. http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.4/TclCmd/Tcl.htm http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.4/TclCmd/Tcl.htm#M10 http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.4/TclCmd/Tcl.htm#M15 Any of puts {[32]} puts "\[32\]" will do the trick. R' On May 8, 3:14 am, ariji...@gmail.com wrote: > Is there any way I can disable/delete this Tcl construct [ <tcl-cmd>]? By doing this, you would disable the primary functionality of Tcl. I'm certain you could go into the tcl source and stop it - but why not talk about what you are really trying to do. Perhaps someone can give you a better way of doing what you are wanting to do. ...
Tcl
Hello all. I found on hobbes the afaik latest Tcl for Os/2 v8.35 Is there any newer port, cause i try to update the eggdrop and that says: Your Tcl version is much too old for Eggdrop to use. You should download and compile a more recent version. The most reliable current version is 8.5.X and can be downloaded from ftp://tcl.activestate.com/pub/tcl/tcl8_5/. -- With the best regards from the Netherlands, Tu, "Tellerbop" <Tellerbop@wint.nl>, hai scritto questo in data Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:11:18 UTC: > Hello all. > > I found on hobbes the afaik latest Tcl for Os/2...
TCL
Hello, i would like to build TCL/TK as a separate DLL-Library. Can anyone tell me how this can be done with VC 6.0? Best regards, Reinhold "Reinhold.kwauka" <bernd-reinhold.kwauka@t-online.de> wrote: >Hello, > >i would like to build TCL/TK as a separate DLL-Library. Can anyone tell me >how this can be done >with VC 6.0? > >Best regards, >Reinhold > 1) get the source from http://tcl.sourceforge.net/ 2) open a command prompt 3) cd to the win/ subdirectory 4) call vcvars32.bat located in ??\vc98\bin\ of vc6 for wherever you installed it. 5) type @ the prompt: nmake -f makefile.vc -- David Gravereaux <davygrvy@pobox.com> [species: human; planet: earth,milkyway(western spiral arm),alpha sector] Reinhold.kwauka wrote: > Hello, > > i would like to build TCL/TK as a separate DLL-Library. Can anyone tell me > how this can be done > with VC 6.0? > > Best regards, > Reinhold > > Its already done. Just download a binary release for windows and check \Program Files\Tcl\lib for the DLLs and static libraries. ...
Tcl
Hello, where can I see for tcl syntacs and how-to run a tcl test? Thank You Vittore ___________________________________ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted to the ptolemy-hackers mailing list. Please send administrative mail for this list to: ptolemy-hackers-request@ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu ...
Tcl extension: check Tcl version?
Is there a recommended way to check if a (binary) Tcl extension is loaded to the same Tcl version that was used for linking the extension? Currently I'm encountering a problem with an extension that I have built (and linked) with libtk8.3.so and that can be loaded under wish8.5 as well (without re-bulding, using package require). A number of newly provided commands work well in spite of the version mixture, but others don't, and wish8.5 crashes when these commands are used. Is this behavior normal, i.e. should I check that compile-time version and run-time version are identical? Or ...
[TCL] multi-threaded tcl apps
Hi, Where can one find complete documentation on the ttrace package to the Thread package? I'd like to know what commands are available in ttrace and how to use them. --------------------------------------------- Andrew R. Falanga (a non-HP employee) Hewlett-Packard Company 11311 Chinden Blvd. Boise, Idaho --------------------------------------------- Please note: The e-mail address is purposely mangled. I do not wish my account at HP to become a spam haven. If you wish to e-mail me, the address consists of a dot between my first and last names (excluding my middle initial). The rest...
MS Dictation and TCL
I'm trying to use the MS dictation tool while in TCL 8.5 program. The text starts to appear, but then the program crashes. It would be great to find a way to make this work. Thanks! Barney Tcl 8.5 (wish 8.5) makeindex (12/14/2007) MSWinXP sp3 plenty of ram and storage ...
Inline::Tcl vs. Inline::Tcl
The readme for CPAN's Inline::Tcl says this: > This module is not related to the Inline::Tcl module, but it might be > valuable to have some compatibility between the two. > This sentence seems to suggest that there is another module named Inline::Tcl somewhere. Is this true, and if so, where can I find it? Mumia W. wrote: > The readme for CPAN's Inline::Tcl says this: > > > This module is not related to the Inline::Tcl module, but it might be > > valuable to have some compatibility between the two. > > > > This sentence seems to suggest ...
[TCL] diff type operations in TCL
I didn't see anything in tcllib and thus far haven't turned up anything that looks like it will work. I would like to know if there is a TCL package, or already written procedure, that will do a simple diff of two files and tell me if they're the same or if they have differences. Is there anything like this? --------------------------------------------- Andrew R. Falanga (a non-HP employee) Hewlett-Packard Company 11311 Chinden Blvd. Boise, Idaho --------------------------------------------- Please note: The e-mail address is purposely mangled. I do not wish my account at HP to...
How Tcl source finds init.tcl???
Hi, I have one question about how Tcl finds init.tcl. What environment variable does Tcl source use to get the search path for init.tcl? Is there any way to specifically use init.tcl from a certain path? Thanks a lot in advance! Lihong lihong pei wrote: > I have one question about how Tcl finds init.tcl. > What environment variable does Tcl source use to get the search path for > init.tcl? If the environment variable TCL_LIBRARY exists, it's value is assumed to be a single directory which is added to the search path for init.tcl. Note that this is offered mostly as a way for...
Tcl Book that explains tcl C API?
Hi! I am looking for material that explains the tcl C API in order to: - Embed Tcl into a C application. - Extend Tcl to add new commands in C. Does Tcl and Tk Toolkit (2nd Edition) by Ken Jones and John Ousterhout do a good job explain these topics in depth? Thanks! Asif wrote: > Hi! > > I am looking for material that explains the tcl C API in order to: > > - Embed Tcl into a C application. > - Extend Tcl to add new commands in C. > > Does Tcl and Tk Toolkit (2nd Edition) by Ken Jones and John Ousterhout do > a good job explain these topics in depth? > > Thanks! can help you cheap:; http://freecomputerbooks.com/langTclBooks.html -- -- -- What's on Shortwave guide: choose an hour, go! http://shortwave.tk 700+ Radio Stations on SW http://swstations.tk 300+ languages on SW http://radiolanguages.tk marc wrote: > Asif wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I am looking for material that explains the tcl C API in order to: >> >> - Embed Tcl into a C application. >> - Extend Tcl to add new commands in C. >> >> Does Tcl and Tk Toolkit (2nd Edition) by Ken Jones and John Ousterhout do >> a good job explain these topics in depth? >> >> Thanks! > > > can help you cheap:; > http://freecomputerbooks.com/langTclBooks.html Would you really trust a site which *PRESUMES* the whole world uses their preferred settings and the heck with the visually imperfect. The resu...
Possible bug in Tcl or Windows or Tcl on Windows
Hi, There seems to be a bug in the way numbers are compared in Tcl. Consider the below script for calculating Pythagorean triplets. For hypotenuse upto a value of 100, there should have been 63 unique triplets. On Windows XP the script detects only 62. The script doesn't detect the case where c=99, b=20 ==> a=101. However running the same script under Tcl 8.4.1 in Cygwin detects 63 triplets. I don't have a Linux machine at hand to test it there. Following is the script and relevant output. Could anyone shed some light on the cause of this. Maybe it has something to do with how the numbers are represented internally? Running the script for N>100 shows up many more such missed values. An equivalent program in C runs correctly on the same machine. C code was compiled using both gcc and VC++6.0. ######################################################################### # a^2 = b^2 + c^2 proc pythag {MAX} { set i 0 for {set c 2} {$c <= $MAX} {incr c} { for {set b 1} {$b < $c} {incr b} { set a [expr hypot($c, $b)] ;# Calc. Hypot if { ($c == 99) && ($b == 20)} { ;# <<<<<<<< puts ">> [expr round($a)] == $a" } if {[expr round($a)] == $a} { puts "$a : $b : $c" incr i } } } return $i } if {$argc == 1} { set MAX [lindex $argv 0] } else { puts stderr "Usage: tclsh $argv0 N" exit } puts [pythag $MAX] ############# OUTPUT ################ Tcl 8.4.1 (Cygwi...
Incr Tcl /Tk for Tcl 8.4
Hi, I am trying to download incr Tcl and incr Tk for Tcl/Tk 8.4.19. I looked at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/incrtcl/files/%5BIncr%20Tcl_Tk%5D-source/3.4.1/ But only itcl seems to be there. And the CVS doesn't have the 3.4.1 tag. Do you know where I can get incr Tk and hopefully a corresponding iwidgets? Thanks, Andres On 5 Okt., 11:16, Andres Garcia <tclc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to download incr Tcl and incr Tk for Tcl/Tk 8.4.19. > > I looked at: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/incrtcl/files/%5BIncr%20Tcl_Tk%5D-sou... > > But only itcl seems to be there. And the CVS doesn't have the 3.4.1 > tag. There is no tag for this version. But you can use a date. cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@incrtcl.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/incrtcl -z3 co -P -D 2010-10-28 incrTcl > > Do you know where I can get incr Tk and hopefully a corresponding > iwidgets? Itk is inside itcl sources. cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@incrtcl.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/incrtcl -z3 co -P -D 2010-10-28 iwidgets HTH rene Thanks. Andres >> I am trying to download incr Tcl and incr Tk for Tcl/Tk 8.4.19. >> >> I looked at: >> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/incrtcl/files/%5BIncr%20Tcl_Tk%5D-sou... >> >> But only itcl seems to be there. And the CVS doesn't have the 3.4.1 >> tag. The released sources for Itcl 3.4.1 were not developed in SF CVS. SF CVS got abandoned during the January...
Sourcing a TCL file from within a tcl file
I am a newbie which I am sure I don't need to state :) I am trying to create a variable with a TCL file that will source another tcl file when I type the variable name something like this if I enter A through my keyboard then source a.tcl Can someone show me how to do this thanks guy On Dec 10, 1:15=A0pm, guy <gcoletta2...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am a newbie which I am sure I don't need to state :) > > I am trying to create a variable with a TCL file that will source > another tcl file when I type the variable name > > something like this > > if I e...
Why TCL?
Hi, 2 weeks ago I found out about TCL for the first time, and I've fallen for it since. It turned out to be very easy to learn, and seems to do what I want it to do so far. I have to hold a speech on any arbitrary technical subject soon for a room of techies and I've thought about introducing them to TCL, since many have heard of Expect, but don't realize it's built on top of TCL. Since 2 weeks has not been enough for me to know all ins and outs, I wonder how I can convince them of the benefits of TCL. By testing the waters, the first responses I got were: "Why yet ano...
Tcl Web Service with Authorization kills Tcl
Hi! I am trying to use web services with authorization using wsdl on tclhttpd 3.5.1, ActiveTcl8.4.18, WS::Server/Utils/Client 1.0.8. tls 1.50, tdom 0.8.2, SuSE Linux 10.0. Are there any known issues using WSDL and authorization? Server side is exactly the example in http://members.cox.net/~gerald.lester/WebServices/Tcl%20Web%20Service%20Example.html As client side is using authorization http headers are appended to client commands. Reading the definitions of the offered services is fine. ::WS::Client::GetAndParseWsdl\ http://localhost:8015/service/wsExamples/wsdl\ {"A...
Tcl-2004 Update: More food and Tcl jobs
Gerald just finished some negotiating with the hotel, and we've increased the meals at Tcl-2004. There will be free breakfast, lunch and breaks on all days, and free dinner on Wed and Thur. We'll have an open bar a couple of the conference nights also. Just the food is worth more than the registration fee! Add in the technical talks, panels, camaraderie and social networking, and this conference is a bargain you won't see again. At least two groups that are looking for Tcl/Tk developers will be present, so bring a resume if you're on the prowl. Online registration will cl...
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