Hello

Have just solved a problem I had with a password error (thanks to a posting
reply from Graeme - primatech), but may have accidentally created another.

I am getting a red temperature warning icon after using my Compaq notebook
for about 10 minutes. The notebook thens shuts down & has to be rebooted.
When I had the computer apart to fix previous problem I cleaned the fan. It
is working fine. I can hear a feint hum which sounds healthy & feel the
breeze from the fan vent.

Wondering if anyone (maybe Graeme again) has any ideas as to what I may have
"messed up" whilst the computer was in pieces. The are no noises, rattles
etc. & all programs work fine until the temperature warning causes the
shutdown. Believe I was very careful to follow the directions in Compaq
tech. manual when dismantling & reassembling.

Brief spec. is:-

Compaq Armada 7400 (Series6366/T14/10.0/V/M/1), 192Mb RAM, Pentium 2, 9.0
gig hard disk space left, Windows 98 (not 98SE).

Thanks in advance for any help.

Echy

Regards from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
http://www.visitvictoria.com/

"primatech" <graeme@NOSPAMprimatechnologies.com.au> wrote in message
news:D5Bqd.52054$K7.399@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
: Echuca wrote:
: > Hello
: >
: > Have just solved a problem I had with a password error (thanks to a
posting
: > reply from Graeme - primatech), but may have accidentally created
another.
: >
: > I am getting a red temperature warning icon after using my Compaq
notebook
: > for about 10 minutes. The notebook thens shuts down & has to be
rebooted.
: > When I had the computer apart to fix previous problem I cleaned the fan.
It
: > is working fine. I can hear a feint hum which sounds healthy & feel the
: > breeze from the fan vent.
: >
: > Wondering if anyone (maybe Graeme again) has any ideas as to what I may
have
: > "messed up" whilst the computer was in pieces. The are no noises,
rattles
: > etc. & all programs work fine until the temperature warning causes the
: > shutdown. Believe I was very careful to follow the directions in Compaq
: > tech. manual when dismantling & reassembling.
: >
: > Brief spec. is:-
: >
: > Compaq Armada 7400 (Series6366/T14/10.0/V/M/1), 192Mb RAM, Pentium 2,
9.0
: > gig hard disk space left, Windows 98 (not 98SE).
: >
: > Thanks in advance for any help.
: >
: > Echy
: >
: > Regards from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
: > http://www.visitvictoria.com/
: >
: >
: >
:
:
: Hi,
:
: Glad that I could help.
:
: Here goes with this one...
: The first thing I would do is dismantle and check the fan connection.
: Make sure that it is plugged in to the system board and that the fan
: power cable isn't damaged or pinched, also make sure there is nothing
: fouling the fan itself.
:
: You say that you can feel the breeze from the vent which sounds like the
: fan is working. But I would double check You should hear the fan cut in
: when the laptop has warmed up.
:
: If the fan is working OK then I would remove the heatsink assembly from
: the processor, clean both surfaces with an alcohol wipe and apply a film
: of heatsink compound.
:
: Get back to me if that doesn't work.
:
: Graeme

Hello Graeme

Will try your suggestion re heatsink assembly. I am certain the fan is
operating - I can hear the fan cut in when the laptop has warmed up.

Pardon my ignorance but where would I source the heatsink compound.

Regards
Echy

Echuca wrote:
> Hello
> 
> Have just solved a problem I had with a password error (thanks to a posting
> reply from Graeme - primatech), but may have accidentally created another.
> 
> I am getting a red temperature warning icon after using my Compaq notebook
> for about 10 minutes. The notebook thens shuts down & has to be rebooted.
> When I had the computer apart to fix previous problem I cleaned the fan. It
> is working fine. I can hear a feint hum which sounds healthy & feel the
> breeze from the fan vent.
> 
> Wondering if anyone (maybe Graeme again) has any ideas as to what I may have
> "messed up" whilst the computer was in pieces. The are no noises, rattles
> etc. & all programs work fine until the temperature warning causes the
> shutdown. Believe I was very careful to follow the directions in Compaq
> tech. manual when dismantling & reassembling.
> 
> Brief spec. is:-
> 
> Compaq Armada 7400 (Series6366/T14/10.0/V/M/1), 192Mb RAM, Pentium 2, 9.0
> gig hard disk space left, Windows 98 (not 98SE).
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Echy
> 
> Regards from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
> http://www.visitvictoria.com/
> 
> 
> 


Hi,

Glad that I could help.

Here goes with this one...
The first thing I would do is dismantle and check the fan connection. 
Make sure that it is plugged in to the system board and that the fan 
power cable isn't damaged or pinched, also make sure there is nothing 
fouling the fan itself.

You say that you can feel the breeze from the vent which sounds like the 
fan is working. But I would double check You should hear the fan cut in 
when the laptop has warmed up.

If the fan is working OK then I would remove the heatsink assembly from 
the processor, clean both surfaces with an alcohol wipe and apply a film 
of heatsink compound.

Get back to me if that doesn't work.

Graeme

Echuca wrote:
> "primatech" <graeme@NOSPAMprimatechnologies.com.au> wrote in message
> news:D5Bqd.52054$K7.399@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> : Echuca wrote:
> : > Hello
> : >
> : > Have just solved a problem I had with a password error (thanks to a
> posting
> : > reply from Graeme - primatech), but may have accidentally created
> another.
> : >
> : > I am getting a red temperature warning icon after using my Compaq
> notebook
> : > for about 10 minutes. The notebook thens shuts down & has to be
> rebooted.
> : > When I had the computer apart to fix previous problem I cleaned the fan.
> It
> : > is working fine. I can hear a feint hum which sounds healthy & feel the
> : > breeze from the fan vent.
> : >
> : > Wondering if anyone (maybe Graeme again) has any ideas as to what I may
> have
> : > "messed up" whilst the computer was in pieces. The are no noises,
> rattles
> : > etc. & all programs work fine until the temperature warning causes the
> : > shutdown. Believe I was very careful to follow the directions in Compaq
> : > tech. manual when dismantling & reassembling.
> : >
> : > Brief spec. is:-
> : >
> : > Compaq Armada 7400 (Series6366/T14/10.0/V/M/1), 192Mb RAM, Pentium 2,
> 9.0
> : > gig hard disk space left, Windows 98 (not 98SE).
> : >
> : > Thanks in advance for any help.
> : >
> : > Echy
> : >
> : > Regards from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
> : > http://www.visitvictoria.com/
> : >
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
> : Hi,
> :
> : Glad that I could help.
> :
> : Here goes with this one...
> : The first thing I would do is dismantle and check the fan connection.
> : Make sure that it is plugged in to the system board and that the fan
> : power cable isn't damaged or pinched, also make sure there is nothing
> : fouling the fan itself.
> :
> : You say that you can feel the breeze from the vent which sounds like the
> : fan is working. But I would double check You should hear the fan cut in
> : when the laptop has warmed up.
> :
> : If the fan is working OK then I would remove the heatsink assembly from
> : the processor, clean both surfaces with an alcohol wipe and apply a film
> : of heatsink compound.
> :
> : Get back to me if that doesn't work.
> :
> : Graeme
> 
> Hello Graeme
> 
> Will try your suggestion re heatsink assembly. I am certain the fan is
> operating - I can hear the fan cut in when the laptop has warmed up.
> 
> Pardon my ignorance but where would I source the heatsink compound.
> 
> Regards
> Echy
> 
> 
Try Tandy, Dick Smith, or Jaycar (if they are in Vic).

The main thing is to ensure that the heatsink is making very good 
contact with the processor. I have sometimes not bothered to renew the 
heatsink compound on a Pentium after removing the heatsink for repairs 
but its best practice. So if the fan is working I dont think heatsink 
compound on its own will be the solution (well maybe). Its more likely 
that the heatsink is somehow not snuggly aligned onto the processor.
Also check that RAM is correctly seated, perhaps dismantle and 
refit/reconnect anything that you may have previously removed and that 
may not be correctly seated.

Also remember when you are working inside your laptop to make sure you 
take precautions against static damage. Dont overhandle components. 
Touch a grounded object such as the metal case of a PC that is plugged 
in to the mains.

primatech wrote:
:: Echuca wrote:
::: "primatech" <graeme@NOSPAMprimatechnologies.com.au> wrote in message
::: news:D5Bqd.52054$K7.399@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
:::: Echuca wrote:
::::: Hello
:::::
::::: Have just solved a problem I had with a password error (thanks to
::::: a posting reply from Graeme - primatech), but may have
::::: accidentally created another.
:::::
::::: I am getting a red temperature warning icon after using my Compaq
::::: notebook for about 10 minutes. The notebook thens shuts down &
::::: has to be rebooted. When I had the computer apart to fix previous
::::: problem I cleaned the fan. It is working fine. I can hear a feint
::::: hum which sounds healthy & feel the breeze from the fan vent.
:::::
::::: Wondering if anyone (maybe Graeme again) has any ideas as to what
::::: I may have "messed up" whilst the computer was in pieces. The are
::::: no noises, rattles etc. & all programs work fine until the
::::: temperature warning causes the shutdown. Believe I was very
::::: careful to follow the directions in Compaq tech. manual when
::::: dismantling & reassembling.
:::::
::::: Brief spec. is:-
:::::
::::: Compaq Armada 7400 (Series6366/T14/10.0/V/M/1), 192Mb RAM,
::::: Pentium 2, 9.0 gig hard disk space left, Windows 98 (not 98SE).
:::::
::::: Thanks in advance for any help.
:::::
::::: Echy
:::::
::::: Regards from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
::::: http://www.visitvictoria.com/
:::::
:::: Hi,
::::
:::: Glad that I could help.
::::
:::: Here goes with this one...
:::: The first thing I would do is dismantle and check the fan
:::: connection. Make sure that it is plugged in to the system board
:::: and that the fan power cable isn't damaged or pinched, also make
:::: sure there is nothing fouling the fan itself.
::::
:::: You say that you can feel the breeze from the vent which sounds
:::: like the fan is working. But I would double check You should hear
:::: the fan cut in when the laptop has warmed up.
::::
:::: If the fan is working OK then I would remove the heatsink assembly
:::: from the processor, clean both surfaces with an alcohol wipe and
:::: apply a film of heatsink compound.
::::
:::: Get back to me if that doesn't work.
::::
:::: Graeme
:::
::: Hello Graeme
:::
::: Will try your suggestion re heatsink assembly. I am certain the fan
::: is operating - I can hear the fan cut in when the laptop has warmed
::: up.
:::
::: Pardon my ignorance but where would I source the heatsink compound.
:::
::: Regards
::: Echy
:::
:::
:: Try Tandy, Dick Smith, or Jaycar (if they are in Vic).
::
:: The main thing is to ensure that the heatsink is making very good
:: contact with the processor. I have sometimes not bothered to renew
:: the heatsink compound on a Pentium after removing the heatsink for
:: repairs but its best practice. So if the fan is working I dont think
:: heatsink compound on its own will be the solution (well maybe). Its
:: more likely that the heatsink is somehow not snuggly aligned onto
:: the processor. Also check that RAM is correctly seated, perhaps
:: dismantle and refit/reconnect anything that you may have previously
:: removed and that may not be correctly seated.
::
:: Also remember when you are working inside your laptop to make sure
:: you take precautions against static damage. Dont overhandle
:: components. Touch a grounded object such as the metal case of a PC
:: that is plugged in to the mains.

Hello again

 I dismantled and re-did everything and the problem has gone! The computer
has been running perfectly for several hours now. I think that the heatsink
alignment *was* the problem. Just an unsophisticated observation but the
heatsink assembly seems to me to be a very flimsy, rough sort of "device" to
me, compared to the other parts of the computer.

I greatly appreciate your help Graeme. I am sure this would have cost quite
a bit has I taken it to Compaq or a similar service place - and the old
budget is very tight at the moment!

Again, many thanks. This is an excellent example of one of the best parts of
newsgroups - "users willingly helping users". It's been an interesting
learning experience too.

Regards
Echy
P.S. Jarcar *is* in Melbourne.

Echuca wrote:
> primatech wrote:
> :: Echuca wrote:
> ::: "primatech" <graeme@NOSPAMprimatechnologies.com.au> wrote in message
> ::: news:D5Bqd.52054$K7.399@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> :::: Echuca wrote:
> ::::: Hello
> :::::
> ::::: Have just solved a problem I had with a password error (thanks to
> ::::: a posting reply from Graeme - primatech), but may have
> ::::: accidentally created another.
> :::::
> ::::: I am getting a red temperature warning icon after using my Compaq
> ::::: notebook for about 10 minutes. The notebook thens shuts down &
> ::::: has to be rebooted. When I had the computer apart to fix previous
> ::::: problem I cleaned the fan. It is working fine. I can hear a feint
> ::::: hum which sounds healthy & feel the breeze from the fan vent.
> :::::
> ::::: Wondering if anyone (maybe Graeme again) has any ideas as to what
> ::::: I may have "messed up" whilst the computer was in pieces. The are
> ::::: no noises, rattles etc. & all programs work fine until the
> ::::: temperature warning causes the shutdown. Believe I was very
> ::::: careful to follow the directions in Compaq tech. manual when
> ::::: dismantling & reassembling.
> :::::
> ::::: Brief spec. is:-
> :::::
> ::::: Compaq Armada 7400 (Series6366/T14/10.0/V/M/1), 192Mb RAM,
> ::::: Pentium 2, 9.0 gig hard disk space left, Windows 98 (not 98SE).
> :::::
> ::::: Thanks in advance for any help.
> :::::
> ::::: Echy
> :::::
> ::::: Regards from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
> ::::: http://www.visitvictoria.com/
> :::::
> :::: Hi,
> ::::
> :::: Glad that I could help.
> ::::
> :::: Here goes with this one...
> :::: The first thing I would do is dismantle and check the fan
> :::: connection. Make sure that it is plugged in to the system board
> :::: and that the fan power cable isn't damaged or pinched, also make
> :::: sure there is nothing fouling the fan itself.
> ::::
> :::: You say that you can feel the breeze from the vent which sounds
> :::: like the fan is working. But I would double check You should hear
> :::: the fan cut in when the laptop has warmed up.
> ::::
> :::: If the fan is working OK then I would remove the heatsink assembly
> :::: from the processor, clean both surfaces with an alcohol wipe and
> :::: apply a film of heatsink compound.
> ::::
> :::: Get back to me if that doesn't work.
> ::::
> :::: Graeme
> :::
> ::: Hello Graeme
> :::
> ::: Will try your suggestion re heatsink assembly. I am certain the fan
> ::: is operating - I can hear the fan cut in when the laptop has warmed
> ::: up.
> :::
> ::: Pardon my ignorance but where would I source the heatsink compound.
> :::
> ::: Regards
> ::: Echy
> :::
> :::
> :: Try Tandy, Dick Smith, or Jaycar (if they are in Vic).
> ::
> :: The main thing is to ensure that the heatsink is making very good
> :: contact with the processor. I have sometimes not bothered to renew
> :: the heatsink compound on a Pentium after removing the heatsink for
> :: repairs but its best practice. So if the fan is working I dont think
> :: heatsink compound on its own will be the solution (well maybe). Its
> :: more likely that the heatsink is somehow not snuggly aligned onto
> :: the processor. Also check that RAM is correctly seated, perhaps
> :: dismantle and refit/reconnect anything that you may have previously
> :: removed and that may not be correctly seated.
> ::
> :: Also remember when you are working inside your laptop to make sure
> :: you take precautions against static damage. Dont overhandle
> :: components. Touch a grounded object such as the metal case of a PC
> :: that is plugged in to the mains.
> 
> Hello again
> 
>  I dismantled and re-did everything and the problem has gone! The computer
> has been running perfectly for several hours now. I think that the heatsink
> alignment *was* the problem. Just an unsophisticated observation but the
> heatsink assembly seems to me to be a very flimsy, rough sort of "device" to
> me, compared to the other parts of the computer.
> 
> I greatly appreciate your help Graeme. I am sure this would have cost quite
> a bit has I taken it to Compaq or a similar service place - and the old
> budget is very tight at the moment!
> 
> Again, many thanks. This is an excellent example of one of the best parts of
> newsgroups - "users willingly helping users". It's been an interesting
> learning experience too.
> 
> Regards
> Echy
> P.S. Jarcar *is* in Melbourne.
> 
> 
Glad to help...just pass your Queensland friends my way for repairs :-)

I pick up quite a bit from monitoring the newsgroup so to pay my dues 
and pass some back is the way it works.

Graeme