Running 7.109   All of a sudden the Spell check isnt working.  it
finds a word and Eudora freezes up,  have to use windows to close it
I reinstall and the problem remains.
I have another copy on another drive and it seems to work okay.

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:46:38 -0600, John Johnson wrote:

> Running 7.109   All of a sudden the Spell check isn't working.

There's usually an actual cause for everything,
such as something that occurred shortly before.

Any ideas at that end?

> it finds a word and Eudora freezes up,
> have to use windows to close it
> I reinstall and the problem remains.
> I have another copy on another drive and it seems to work okay.

Try copying file "UserJunkDB.txt" from that system to yours.

But first, Jim H might like to know,
what are the first ten lines from that file
on your currently freezing system?

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:09:13 -0600, I mis-wrote:

> Try copying file "UserJunkDB.txt" from that system to yours.

Oops, I meant "uchange.tlx" and "uignore.tlx"
(or any other *.tlx, if I forgot one)

The first few lines of each file, from the "bad" system,
may still be of interest.

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:25:55 -0600, "John H Meyers"
<jhmeyers@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:09:13 -0600, I mis-wrote:
>
>> Try copying file "UserJunkDB.txt" from that system to yours.
>
>Oops, I meant "uchange.tlx" and "uignore.tlx"
>(or any other *.tlx, if I forgot one)
>
>The first few lines of each file, from the "bad" system,
>may still be of interest.

Thanks
This files seem to be the same in both Eudoras
Do not remember anything different.  Was working fine a few days ago
and yesterday it just doesnt work
It highlights the mispelled word but does nothing.  Pressing enter not
unfreezes it but the word remains mispelled.

uchange
#LID 0009 0 0


uignore
#LID 1033 1 7
com
e-mailmm
eudora
org
pacbell
qualcomm
yahoogroups

usuggest
#LID 0009 2 0

american.tlx
#LID 1033 1 1018
April
August
December
February
Friday
I
I'd

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:29:33 -0600, John Johnson wrote:

> It highlights the mispelled word but does nothing.
> Pressing enter not unfreezes it but the word remains mispelled.

I don't understand what you just wrote.

Are you in "sponsored" or "paid" mode?

Are you using "check spelling automatically as you type,"
or "Edit" > "Check Spelling"?

What exact actions do you perform?
(right-click on "redlined" word, or click a specific button, etc.)
and then what results?

[below are files you posted]

uchange
#LID 0009 0 0

uignore
#LID 1033 1 7
com
e-mailmm
eudora
org
pacbell
qualcomm
yahoogroups

usuggest
#LID 0009 2 0

american.tlx
#LID 1033 1 1018
April
August
December
[...]

[End of posted files]


Meaning of header: #LID 1033 1 7

#LID 1033 is the language ID for language dictionaries
  (E.g. 1033=3DAmerican, 2057=3DBritish)
1 is a lexicon type number (0=3Dauto_change,1=3Dignore,2=3Dsuggest,3=3De=
xclude)
7 is the number of entries (word lines) in the file
  (lines in types 0 and 2 are "change_this:to_this")

My own "uignore" says "#LID 0009" rather than "#LID 1033"

Katrina also suggests "#LID 0009" for the _user_ files,
though I do not know whether this is necessary
(do you know how your "uignore" became "#LID 1033"?)
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows/msg/c0d95ce64=
0aba5ea

"Foreign Dictionaries (Windows Eudora)"
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1426hq.html

For the curious -- geek info from Wintertree Software
http://www.wintertree-software.com/support/ssce/converting4xtlxfiles.htm=
l

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:38:17 -0600, "John H Meyers"
<jhmeyers@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:29:33 -0600, John Johnson wrote:
>
>> It highlights the mispelled word but does nothing.
>> Pressing enter not unfreezes it but the word remains mispelled.
>
>I don't understand what you just wrote.
>
>Are you in "sponsored" or "paid" mode?

Paid mode, been using Eudora for many years

When I click on spell check, it will find the mispelled word highlight
it, but thats all,  it will not correct it  Misspelled words will be
underlined as I type them in. .  But no changes are made either way.
Any pressing of the mouse yields a beep but no action.  Pressing enter
that gets me back to normal.


>
>Are you using "check spelling automatically as you type,"
>or "Edit" > "Check Spelling"?
>
>What exact actions do you perform?
>(right-click on "redlined" word, or click a specific button, etc.)
>and then what results?
>
>[below are files you posted]
>
>uchange
>#LID 0009 0 0
>
>uignore
>#LID 1033 1 7
>com
>e-mailmm
>eudora
>org
>pacbell
>qualcomm
>yahoogroups
>
>usuggest
>#LID 0009 2 0
>
>american.tlx
>#LID 1033 1 1018
>April
>August
>December
>[...]
>
>[End of posted files]
>
>
>Meaning of header: #LID 1033 1 7
>
>#LID 1033 is the language ID for language dictionaries
>  (E.g. 1033=American, 2057=British)
>1 is a lexicon type number (0=auto_change,1=ignore,2=suggest,3=exclude)
>7 is the number of entries (word lines) in the file
>  (lines in types 0 and 2 are "change_this:to_this")
>
>My own "uignore" says "#LID 0009" rather than "#LID 1033"
>
>Katrina also suggests "#LID 0009" for the _user_ files,
>though I do not know whether this is necessary
>(do you know how your "uignore" became "#LID 1033"?)
>http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows/msg/c0d95ce640aba5ea
>
>"Foreign Dictionaries (Windows Eudora)"
>http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1426hq.html
>
>For the curious -- geek info from Wintertree Software
>http://www.wintertree-software.com/support/ssce/converting4xtlxfiles.html

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:32:02 -0600, John Johnson wrote:

> Paid mode, been using Eudora for many years
>
> When I click on spell check, it will find the mispelled word highlight
> it, but that's all,  it will not correct it  Misspelled words will be
> underlined as I type them in. .  But no changes are made either way.
> Any pressing of the mouse yields a beep but no action.  Pressing enter
> that gets me back to normal.

Does "gets me back to normal" mean that it starts working properly?

If, while Eudora is closed, you move all your u*.tlx files
to another place for safekeeping, does the problem go away?
(if not, close Eudora again and move your files back).

Have you ever manually added or changed any spelling dictionaries?

Re-running the Eudora installer is one way to replace
the original dictionaries (although it will not remove
any extras that may have been added).

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By the way, what value do you see when you
hold down [Alt] on keyboard while clicking on the following,
when it is in the body of a Eudora message:

<X-Eudora-Option:MainLexFiles>

The default value here is: american.tlx,american.clx

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:06:35 -0600, "John H Meyers"
<jhmeyers@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:32:02 -0600, John Johnson wrote:
>
>> Paid mode, been using Eudora for many years
>>
>> When I click on spell check, it will find the mispelled word highlight
>> it, but that's all,  it will not correct it  Misspelled words will be
>> underlined as I type them in. .  But no changes are made either way.
>> Any pressing of the mouse yields a beep but no action.  Pressing enter
>> that gets me back to normal.
>
>Does "gets me back to normal" mean that it starts working properly?
Yes
The mouse doesnt work but the enter key does?

>
>If, while Eudora is closed, you move all your u*.tlx files
>to another place for safekeeping, does the problem go away?
>(if not, close Eudora again and move your files back).

NO
>
>Have you ever manually added or changed any spelling dictionaries?
>
NO
>Re-running the Eudora installer is one way to replace
>the original dictionaries (although it will not remove
>any extras that may have been added).
Did reinstalling  made  no difference. 
There must be another corrupted file,   either in Eudora directory or
somewhere in Windows.  Not sure if reinstalling overwrites everything

Like I said the other copy on another USB drive works fine.

Also thanks for the help

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:12:30 -0600, "John H Meyers"
<jhmeyers@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>By the way, what value do you see when you
>hold down [Alt] on keyboard while clicking on the following,
>when it is in the body of a Eudora message:
>
><X-Eudora-Option:MainLexFiles>

nothing happens.
>
>The default value here is: american.tlx,american.clx

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:05:11 -0600, John Johnson wrote:

>> By the way, what value do you see when you
>> hold down [Alt] on keyboard while clicking on the following,
>> when it is in the body of a Eudora message:
>> <X-Eudora-Option:MainLexFiles>

>  nothing happens.

Then Eudora isn't functioning at all :)

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:20:28 -0600, "John H Meyers"
<jhmeyers@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:05:11 -0600, John Johnson wrote:
>
>>> By the way, what value do you see when you
>>> hold down [Alt] on keyboard while clicking on the following,
>>> when it is in the body of a Eudora message:
>>> <X-Eudora-Option:MainLexFiles>
>
>>  nothing happens.
>
>Then Eudora isn't functioning at all :)
Didnt notice
Under neath Eudora,  I get a box about changing opitons but they are
all the same.  american.tlx, american.clx

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:46:21 -0600, for John Johnson:

Well, I can't picture what the problem is,
but if it's that the window is off-screen,
in which the "suggestions" and buttons should appear,
then "Tools" > "Reset Tools" will reset all window positions.

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:00:31 -0600, "John H Meyers"
<jhmeyers@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:46:21 -0600, for John Johnson:
>
>Well, I can't picture what the problem is,
>but if it's that the window is off-screen,
>in which the "suggestions" and buttons should appear,
>then "Tools" > "Reset Tools" will reset all window positions.

'When I reset tools, the spell check icon goes away

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:24:21 -0600, John Johnson wrote:

> When I reset tools, the spell check icon goes away

If you mean a toolbar button, yes, the toolbar is reset,
so just "customize" it (add any buttons) again.

Meanwhile, the standard menu item (and keyboard shortcut)
never go away:

"Edit" > "Check Spelling" (Ctrl+6)

If "Check spelling Automatically as you type" is enabled,
this also continues, all the time, which somewhat elminates
the need to perform the spell check manually.

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BTW, in case you wondered, we are one and the same:
"Old Eudora User" and "NotesTracker" that is.
(FWIW, the latter is an SDK I developed for Lotus Notes).

Well, you could have knocked me over with a feather!

Guess what, John (Meyers)? After several days of tearing my hair out,
wondering why on earth why the spell checker was locking up for no
apparent reason, today when I tried it everything was back to normal.

I have no idea what went wrong, and even less idea why things have
righted themselves. There must be a reason for the failure (and the
recovery), but your guess is as good as mine. Thanks for offering your
opinions and advice, anyway, John.

BTW, one of your points was about where I have my Eudora data folder.
In fact, I've always the Eudora program folder on my D: drive, with
the Eudora data folder as a sub-folder of that. This has worked well
for me over the years, since I've been able to re-install various
versions of Windows on the C: drive (and other versions of Windows in
dual-boot mode on other drives too) and have been able to get them all
to work with that same location of of Eudora (even when the occasional
catastrophic disk problem has caused the C: drive to be lost).

One of the reasons I like Eudora is that it's relatively easy to
understand the program elements and to manage/reinstall individual
data folders, unlike the monolithic PST files used by Outlook for
example. Actually, I was using Eudora for a couple of years before
Windows 95 and Outlook appeared on the scene, and after testing
Outlook have always given it a wide berth. One shortcoming, though, is
that there's a huge range of third-party apps that have been designed
to interface with Outlook, that always ere unavailable for Eudora
(even before Qualcomm recommitted further development).

But luckily the X1 search (for Paid mode) added late in its life
turned Eudora into an extremely competent productivity tool, and I'm
quite happy to keep living with it... Despite the very occasional
inscrutable bouts of behavior like this bizarre spell checker problem,
which suddenly reared its ugly head and then just as suddenly went
away (at least, I hope that it has gone away).

One day, Penelope or Eudora 8 or some other e-mail suite might entice
me away from Eudora 7 -- but I'm in nor rush to switch due to the
uncertainly about whether they're as functional. Enough said, for the
moment.

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:43:43 -0600, NotesTracker wrote:

> Guess what, after several days of tearing my hair out,
> wondering why on earth why the spell checker was locking up for no
> apparent reason, today when I tried it everything was back to normal.

The same as said "John Johnson," in the last post on November 14, 2009,
just before your problem began (whom you quoted, in your first post).

So it's evidently just a "cold spell" being passed around -- others can get
a shot of C2H5OH vaccine, and may be protected for the duration of Winter :)

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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:41:48 -0600, "John H Meyers"
<jhmeyers@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:43:43 -0600, NotesTracker wrote:
>
>> Guess what, after several days of tearing my hair out,
>> wondering why on earth why the spell checker was locking up for no
>> apparent reason, today when I tried it everything was back to normal.
>
>The same as said "John Johnson," in the last post on November 14, 2009,
>just before your problem began (whom you quoted, in your first post).
>
>So it's evidently just a "cold spell" being passed around -- others can get
>a shot of C2H5OH vaccine, and may be protected for the duration of Winter :)

Most days I take a  dose of it at both lunch and dinner and haven't
had a cold in years.
--
Ajo Wissink

On Nov 30, 7:41=A0pm, "John H Meyers" <jhmey...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
> So it's evidently just a "cold spell" being passed around -- others can g=
et
> a shot of C2H5OH vaccine, and may be protected for the duration of Winter=
 :)
>
Well, JHM, the "cold spell" has just settled in again!
After a week or so of normal behavior, the dreaded Eudora spell
checker
syndrome has returned again, out of the blue just like last time.

AFAIK nothing that I've done is untoward that should
cause this to happen again. ... Obscure, inscrutable, puzzling,

Are you "John Johnson" too? (that was the first post of this thread).

According to some of the previous responses,
put the mail on a USB drive and it should be fine :)

Want to try turning off any anti-virus (or similar) package,
for long enough to see whether it makes any difference?

Have you run any spyware checkers too?

Otherwise try turning off Windows :)

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John / Notestracker,
you are not alone. The same thing just happened to me. out of the blue, Eudora started freezing during spell check. 
Since then, did something happen that helped you identifying what caused the problem?

Is (RAM) memory full?

When "Commit charge" exceeds "Physical memory" in my computer,
then _everything_ freezes (while vigorous page swapping occurs)

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