I am trying to use Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 with my midi keyboard. I just
purchased a new sound card (cheap) and hooked up the OUTPUT from the
MIDI to the input on the audio card.

The audio card is the Vibra128 and I have installed all the software
with it.  The sound seems to work fine with regular music.

Do I need to install soundfonts or something to get this to work?
When I start up Cakewalk, there is a little keyboard like icon in the
bottom right corner, but the lights never vary as I play the keyboard
making me believe it is not receiving the signal.  Maybe faulty sound
card?  How could I check?

Thanks

"David De" <daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191445378.173567.222340@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
> I am trying to use Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 with my midi keyboard. I just
> purchased a new sound card (cheap) and hooked up the OUTPUT from the
> MIDI to the input on the audio card.
>
> The audio card is the Vibra128 and I have installed all the software
> with it.  The sound seems to work fine with regular music.
>
> Do I need to install soundfonts or something to get this to work?
> When I start up Cakewalk, there is a little keyboard like icon in the
> bottom right corner, but the lights never vary as I play the keyboard
> making me believe it is not receiving the signal.  Maybe faulty sound
> card?  How could I check?
>
> Thanks
>

You don't specify which Windows operating system is in use, so I'm going to
list the troubleshooting steps I would use on my old Windows 98SE system
that I still use for MIDI, and those instructions should be easily adaptable
for other newer Windows versions (e.g., Windows XP).

And, since you already specify that Cakewalk can play MIDI, I'm going to
just list troubleshooting for the MIDI input problem.

A. First check the following keyboard to PC connection...

    Are you using the 15-pin joystick to MIDI adaptor for the joystick port?
(If not, then MIDI Input is via USB, and if so then skip to B below.)

            * Verify that the appropriate joystick port driver (e.g,
Gameport Joystick) is installed in the Device Manager
                - The joystick port driver should have been automatically
installed if the soundcard was installed successfully.

            * Verify that 5-pin DIN cable connector labelled MIDI IN is
connected to the MIDI OUT connector of the keyboard.

B. Now, verify the following in Cakewalk Pro Audio 9...

    1. Tools | Options | MIDI Devices

        * In the Input Ports pane (left side), is there any External MIDI
device listed?

            Yes...

                Cakewalk is at least seeing your external MIDI port, so
proceed to step 2 below.

            No...

                Without an External MIDI device in the Input Port, Cakewalk
cannot receive MIDI Input from any external device. You'll now probably have
to troubleshoot why the soundcard isn't including an external MIDI device
that Cakewalk can detect.

    2. When recording MIDI to a track, do the following minimum settings to
ensure that the track is

        * The track to record MIDI is selected.
        * Source is set to MIDI.
        * The "R" button is selected (in the M S R group of buttons for the
track), the "M" button is not selected.
        * "ARM" appears in red at the bottom near the Disk Space and CPU
indicators.
        * A channel is assigned to the selected track.
        * A patch is assigned to the selected track.

3. Click the Record button or press R on the keyboard, start playing and the
MIDI notes should record as they are played.

Those are generic steps that should help at least start troubleshooting the
problem. The only significant difference is that my soundcard is a Turtle
Beach Santa Cruz, so the Joystick port driver appears as "Santa Cruz
Joystick" and the external MIDI device appears as "Santa Cruz External
MIDI".

(The standard disclaimer applies that I am not responsible for any equipment
damage or personal injury as the result of following these instructions, but
I have also tested these instructions using my own computer and MIDI setup
since I also use Cakewalk Pro Audio 9, and everything works perfectly for
both MIDI output and MIDI input.)

> You don't specify which Windows operating system is in use, so I'm going to
> list the troubleshooting steps I would use on my old Windows 98SE system
> that I still use for MIDI, and those instructions should be easily adaptable
> for other newer Windows versions (e.g., Windows XP).

Sorry, it is XP.

> And, since you already specify that Cakewalk can play MIDI, I'm going to
> just list troubleshooting for the MIDI input problem.
>
> A. First check the following keyboard to PC connection...
>
>     Are you using the 15-pin joystick to MIDI adaptor for the joystick port?
> (If not, then MIDI Input is via USB, and if so then skip to B below.)

15 pin adapter on the audio card.

>             * Verify that the appropriate joystick port driver (e.g,
> Gameport Joystick) is installed in the Device Manager
>                 - The joystick port driver should have been automatically
> installed if the soundcard was installed successfully.

Under my DEVICE PANEL, Sound Video Game Controllers, r-click on the
Vibra 128, properties - it list the Vibra 128 as the Midi source.


>             * Verify that 5-pin DIN cable connector labelled MIDI IN is
> connected to the MIDI OUT connector of the keyboard.

It is.

> B. Now, verify the following in Cakewalk Pro Audio 9...
>
>     1. Tools | Options | MIDI Devices
>
>         * In the Input Ports pane (left side), is there any External MIDI
> device listed?

On the INPUT SIDE - there  is only choice, the : Creative Vibra
External Midi

On the OUTPUT SIDE - there is :
1)  MS Midi Mapper
2) MS GS Wavetable SW Sythn
3) Creative Vibra 128 Midi

If I select the OUTPUT as the Midi Mapper, it tells me that I HAVEN'T
selected any Midi ports.
If I select the OUTPUT as the MS GS Wavetable SW Sythn, it accepts it
If I select the OUTPUT as the Creative Vibrar 128 midi , it accepts it

>     2. When recording MIDI to a track, do the following minimum settings to
> ensure that the track is
>
>         * The track to record MIDI is selected.

Which type of Midi?  I have MIDI OMNI, MIDI CHANNEL 1,2,3,4, etc.

>         * Source is set to MIDI.

>         * The "R" button is selected (in the M S R group of buttons for the
> track), the "M" button is not selected.
>         * "ARM" appears in red at the bottom near the Disk Space and CPU
> indicators.
>         * A channel is assigned to the selected track.
>         * A patch is assigned to the selected track.

I have it set to Channel 1 and the patch is set to Electric Grand
Piano.

> 3. Click the Record button or press R on the keyboard, start playing and the
> MIDI notes should record as they are played.

Nothing appears as I play.

So what next?  What else should I try?
ALso, there is NO sound coming from the Computer speakers while I am
playing.  It comes from the Keyboard speakers, but no where else.

"David De" <daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191527281.113449.261410@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > You don't specify which Windows operating system is in use, so I'm going
to
> > list the troubleshooting steps I would use on my old Windows 98SE system
> > that I still use for MIDI, and those instructions should be easily
adaptable
> > for other newer Windows versions (e.g., Windows XP).
>
> Sorry, it is XP.
>
> > And, since you already specify that Cakewalk can play MIDI, I'm going to
> > just list troubleshooting for the MIDI input problem.
> >
> > A. First check the following keyboard to PC connection...
> >
> >     Are you using the 15-pin joystick to MIDI adaptor for the joystick
port?
> > (If not, then MIDI Input is via USB, and if so then skip to B below.)
>
> 15 pin adapter on the audio card.
>
> >             * Verify that the appropriate joystick port driver (e.g,
> > Gameport Joystick) is installed in the Device Manager
> >                 - The joystick port driver should have been
automatically
> > installed if the soundcard was installed successfully.
>
> Under my DEVICE PANEL, Sound Video Game Controllers, r-click on the
> Vibra 128, properties - it list the Vibra 128 as the Midi source.
>
>
> >             * Verify that 5-pin DIN cable connector labelled MIDI IN is
> > connected to the MIDI OUT connector of the keyboard.
>
> It is.
>
So that much checks out. (I guess the newer soundcards don't use a separate
joystick port driver anymore, since MS-DOS is now just a command prompt
window, rather than an underlying part of the OS.)

> > B. Now, verify the following in Cakewalk Pro Audio 9...
> >
> >     1. Tools | Options | MIDI Devices
> >
> >         * In the Input Ports pane (left side), is there any External
MIDI
> > device listed?
>
> On the INPUT SIDE - there  is only choice, the : Creative Vibra
> External Midi
>
It's there, but is it also highlighted? I forgot to specify that it needed
to also be highlighted. (If it is not highlighted, actually click on it to
highlight it, so Cakewalk sees it as a selected available device.)

> On the OUTPUT SIDE - there is :
> 1)  MS Midi Mapper
> 2) MS GS Wavetable SW Sythn
> 3) Creative Vibra 128 Midi
>
> If I select the OUTPUT as the Midi Mapper, it tells me that I HAVEN'T
> selected any Midi ports.
> If I select the OUTPUT as the MS GS Wavetable SW Sythn, it accepts it
> If I select the OUTPUT as the Creative Vibrar 128 midi , it accepts it
>
Both the Creative Vibra128 MIDI or MS GS Wavetable SW Synth are good
selections, it's just probably a difference in synth sounds (Creative's
sounds vs. Roland's sounds licensed to Microsoft).

> >     2. When recording MIDI to a track, do the following minimum settings
to
> > ensure that the track is
> >
> >         * The track to record MIDI is selected.
>
> Which type of Midi?  I have MIDI OMNI, MIDI CHANNEL 1,2,3,4, etc.
>
Try MIDI Omni. If that doesn't work, then try matching the channel that is
selected in the Chn column (e.g., if Chn is 2, select MIDI Channel 2). For
my setup, MIDI Omni works without issue, for the selected track that is
being recorded.

> >         * Source is set to MIDI.
>
> >         * The "R" button is selected (in the M S R group of buttons for
the
> > track), the "M" button is not selected.
> >         * "ARM" appears in red at the bottom near the Disk Space and CPU
> > indicators.
> >         * A channel is assigned to the selected track.
> >         * A patch is assigned to the selected track.
>
> I have it set to Channel 1 and the patch is set to Electric Grand
> Piano.
>
> > 3. Click the Record button or press R on the keyboard, start playing and
the
> > MIDI notes should record as they are played.
>
> Nothing appears as I play.
>
Switch to Staff View or Piano Roll view when recording MIDI (when it starts
working). The notes should then appear shortly after they are played.

> So what next?  What else should I try?
> ALso, there is NO sound coming from the Computer speakers while I am
> playing.  It comes from the Keyboard speakers, but no where else.

The keyboard speakers will always play unless the volume is turned all the
way down or the Local Echo function of the keyboard is disabled (in either
case, pressing keys then emits no sound from the keyboard speakers, and the
keyboard acts as only a MIDI controller sending MIDI to the soundcard and
Cakewalk software).

> > Which type of Midi?  I have MIDI OMNI, MIDI CHANNEL 1,2,3,4, etc.
>
> Try MIDI Omni. If that doesn't work, then try matching the channel that is
> selected in the Chn column (e.g., if Chn is 2, select MIDI Channel 2). For
> my setup, MIDI Omni works without issue, for the selected track that is
> being recorded.

It is still not working.  I am trying a variation of different
settings on the program as well as taking the Midi in/out of my
keyboard and switching it around to see what happens.  Note : My
little keyboard in the bottom right hand corner with play with the
Metronome (right lights), but the little lights on the left hands side
never flash, even when I am playing the keyboard.

> Switch to Staff View or Piano Roll view when recording MIDI (when it starts
> working). The notes should then appear shortly after they are played.

Nothing is appearing.
This is taking so much of my time and I am not getting any results.  I
just don't get it.  I don't know what to do from here...

> The keyboard speakers will always play unless the volume is turned all the
> way down or the Local Echo function of the keyboard is disabled (in either
> case, pressing keys then emits no sound from the keyboard speakers, and the
> keyboard acts as only a MIDI controller sending MIDI to the soundcard and
> Cakewalk software).

Another thing, when I run Cakewalk, I cannot play the MIDI TEST FILE,
but as soon as I shut CAKEWALK down, the Midi test file plays.  So
Cakewalk is accessing something...

On Oct 4, 7:44 pm, David De <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > Which type of Midi?  I have MIDI OMNI, MIDI CHANNEL 1,2,3,4, etc.
>
> > Try MIDI Omni. If that doesn't work, then try matching the channel that is
> > selected in the Chn column (e.g., if Chn is 2, select MIDI Channel 2). For
> > my setup, MIDI Omni works without issue, for the selected track that is
> > being recorded.
>
> It is still not working.  I am trying a variation of different
> settings on the program as well as taking the Midi in/out of my
> keyboard and switching it around to see what happens.  Note : My
> little keyboard in the bottom right hand corner with play with the
> Metronome (right lights), but the little lights on the left hands side
> never flash, even when I am playing the keyboard.
>
> > Switch to Staff View or Piano Roll view when recording MIDI (when it starts
> > working). The notes should then appear shortly after they are played.
>
> Nothing is appearing.
> This is taking so much of my time and I am not getting any results.  I
> just don't get it.  I don't know what to do from here...
>
> > The keyboard speakers will always play unless the volume is turned all the
> > way down or the Local Echo function of the keyboard is disabled (in either
> > case, pressing keys then emits no sound from the keyboard speakers, and the
> > keyboard acts as only a MIDI controller sending MIDI to the soundcard and
> > Cakewalk software).

"David De" <daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191541475.578403.200820@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> > > Which type of Midi?  I have MIDI OMNI, MIDI CHANNEL 1,2,3,4, etc.
> >
> > Try MIDI Omni. If that doesn't work, then try matching the channel that
is
> > selected in the Chn column (e.g., if Chn is 2, select MIDI Channel 2).
For
> > my setup, MIDI Omni works without issue, for the selected track that is
> > being recorded.
>
> It is still not working.  I am trying a variation of different
> settings on the program as well as taking the Midi in/out of my
> keyboard and switching it around to see what happens.  Note : My
> little keyboard in the bottom right hand corner with play with the
> Metronome (right lights), but the little lights on the left hands side
> never flash, even when I am playing the keyboard.
>
> > Switch to Staff View or Piano Roll view when recording MIDI (when it
starts
> > working). The notes should then appear shortly after they are played.
>
> Nothing is appearing.
> This is taking so much of my time and I am not getting any results.  I
> just don't get it.  I don't know what to do from here...
>
> > The keyboard speakers will always play unless the volume is turned all
the
> > way down or the Local Echo function of the keyboard is disabled (in
either
> > case, pressing keys then emits no sound from the keyboard speakers, and
the
> > keyboard acts as only a MIDI controller sending MIDI to the soundcard
and
> > Cakewalk software).
>
>

I'm almost out of ideas at this point, but I can only think of one other
thing that may need to be checked as far as the lack of MIDI input to
Cakewalk.

The last thing I would suggest checking is to verify that your keyboard is
actually sending MIDI Out data. For some devices, a MIDI communication mode
apparently may not be enabled by default, and a so certain mode has to be
enabled before the device will send MIDI Out data (which is usually
mentioned in the manual and is not immediately obvious just from the
keyboard's operation buttons alone).

Beyond that, and assuming that everything is installed correctly, I am
unfortunately out of any other ideas as to why the MIDI input to Cakewalk is
not working.

I did turn it general MIDI to on earlier and that didn't change
anything.  I did notice something though - I am getting a Multimedia
controller error (yellow exclamation mark) in my device manager.  I
don't know where it is coming from because the video card is
recognized and the drivers are installed.  I wonder if that is what is
making it not work?


>
> I'm almost out of ideas at this point, but I can only think of one other
> thing that may need to be checked as far as the lack of MIDI input to
> Cakewalk.
>
> The last thing I would suggest checking is to verify that your keyboard is
> actually sending MIDI Out data. For some devices, a MIDI communication mode
> apparently may not be enabled by default, and a so certain mode has to be
> enabled before the device will send MIDI Out data (which is usually
> mentioned in the manual and is not immediately obvious just from the
> keyboard's operation buttons alone).
>
> Beyond that, and assuming that everything is installed correctly, I am
> unfortunately out of any other ideas as to why the MIDI input to Cakewalk is
> not working.

The error in the Device Panel was the onboard audio was switched on in
the Bios, but it still did NOT fix my midi problem.  So, now it comes
down whether the cable is broken, the physical midi card is the
culprit or it is the keyboard.

Going to try this on a second computer, which I am reluctant to do
because that means more temporary drivers for the video card and more
issues in the future...

On Oct 5, 9:26 am, David De <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I did turn it general MIDI to on earlier and that didn't change
> anything.  I did notice something though - I am getting a Multimedia
> controller error (yellow exclamation mark) in my device manager.  I
> don't know where it is coming from because the video card is
> recognized and the drivers are installed.  I wonder if that is what is
> making it not work?

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:02:58 -0700, David De
<daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote stuff
and I replied:

Just a thought. It sounds as if you have eliminiated CW as the
problem, or at least worked through setting it up properly.

Get MIDIOx (Every MIDIist should have it anyway <G>), and see if it
shows any input via MIDI. It's another alternative. You still need to
set up MIDI inputs, and choose the Vibra 128 MIDI. MIDIOx will
actually show the notes as you play them.

>I am trying to use Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 with my midi keyboard. I just
>purchased a new sound card (cheap) and hooked up the OUTPUT from the
>MIDI to the input on the audio card.
>
>The audio card is the Vibra128 and I have installed all the software
>with it.  The sound seems to work fine with regular music.
>
>Do I need to install soundfonts or something to get this to work?
>When I start up Cakewalk, there is a little keyboard like icon in the
>bottom right corner, but the lights never vary as I play the keyboard
>making me believe it is not receiving the signal.  Maybe faulty sound
>card?  How could I check?
>
>Thanks

Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

On Oct 5, 8:36 pm, OldNick <nsremova...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:02:58 -0700, David De
> <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com> wrote stuff
> and I replied:
>
> Just a thought. It sounds as if you have eliminiated CW as the
> problem, or at least worked through setting it up properly.

What is CW?

> Get MIDIOx (Every MIDIist should have it anyway <G>), and see if it
> shows any input via MIDI. It's another alternative. You still need to
> set up MIDI inputs, and choose the Vibra 128 MIDI. MIDIOx will
> actually show the notes as you play them.

Excellent, I have downloaded the MIDIOx program.  What should I be
looking for to tell what is working and what is not?  Is there a test
with the program to see if it is receiving data from the music
keyboard?

Interesting things have happened that lead me to believe I am
hopefully on the right track:

1) When I use MIDIOx, the first thing I do is go to options and
connect to my inputs and outputs - if I selected the Output of MIDI
MAPPER, it says it is already in use.  That means it might be
conflicting maybe?

2) You know when you see something in a new light and wondered how you
could be so silly, like when I saw CW and realised it meant Cakewalk,
but for the longest time I couldn't think of any acronym the CW stood
for?

So if my Midi Mapper is being used, how can I stop it so I can use it
with the MIDIOxs?

Thanks


On Oct 5, 11:41 pm, David De <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Oct 5, 8:36 pm, OldNick <nsremova...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:02:58 -0700, David De
> > <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com> wrote stuff
> > and I replied:
>
> > Just a thought. It sounds as if you have eliminiated CW as the
> > problem, or at least worked through setting it up properly.
>
> What is CW?
>
> > Get MIDIOx (Every MIDIist should have it anyway <G>), and see if it
> > shows any input via MIDI. It's another alternative. You still need to
> > set up MIDI inputs, and choose the Vibra 128 MIDI. MIDIOx will
> > actually show the notes as you play them.
>
> Excellent, I have downloaded the MIDIOx program.  What should I be
> looking for to tell what is working and what is not?  Is there a test
> with the program to see if it is receiving data from the music
> keyboard?

Well, that was a non-starter.  The reason it was saying it was in use
was because I had selected more than one output.
Using Midiox, I can use the computer keyboard and it works - my output
panel shows it working, but alas, using my musical keyboard does
nothing.

I am not sure where to go from here.


On Oct 6, 10:47 am, David De <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Interesting things have happened that lead me to believe I am
> hopefully on the right track:
>
> 1) When I use MIDIOx, the first thing I do is go to options and
> connect to my inputs and outputs - if I selected the Output of MIDI
> MAPPER, it says it is already in use.  That means it might be
> conflicting maybe?
>
> 2) You know when you see something in a new light and wondered how you
> could be so silly, like when I saw CW and realised it meant Cakewalk,
> but for the longest time I couldn't think of any acronym the CW stood
> for?
>
> So if my Midi Mapper is being used, how can I stop it so I can use it
> with the MIDIOxs?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Oct 5, 11:41 pm, David De <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 5, 8:36 pm, OldNick <nsremova...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> > > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:02:58 -0700, David De
> > > <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com> wrote stuff
> > > and I replied:
>
> > > Just a thought. It sounds as if you have eliminiated CW as the
> > > problem, or at least worked through setting it up properly.
>
> > What is CW?
>
> > > Get MIDIOx (Every MIDIist should have it anyway <G>), and see if it
> > > shows any input via MIDI. It's another alternative. You still need to
> > > set up MIDI inputs, and choose the Vibra 128 MIDI. MIDIOx will
> > > actually show the notes as you play them.
>
> > Excellent, I have downloaded the MIDIOx program.  What should I be
> > looking for to tell what is working and what is not?  Is there a test
> > with the program to see if it is receiving data from the music
> > keyboard?

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 09:05:16 -0700, David De
<daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote stuff
and I replied:

Don.t worry about outputs at all. You are only interested in the input
at present.

So in MIDI Ox you are selecting an input of your soundcard's MIDI
port?

ANd when you play the keyboard, nothing happens? MIDI OX has both
Input and outpout monitor screens.

>Well, that was a non-starter.  The reason it was saying it was in use
>was because I had selected more than one output.
>Using Midiox, I can use the computer keyboard and it works - my output
>panel shows it working, but alas, using my musical keyboard does
>nothing.
>
>I am not sure where to go from here.
>
>
>On Oct 6, 10:47 am, David De <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> Interesting things have happened that lead me to believe I am
>> hopefully on the right track:
>>
>> 1) When I use MIDIOx, the first thing I do is go to options and
>> connect to my inputs and outputs - if I selected the Output of MIDI
>> MAPPER, it says it is already in use.  That means it might be
>> conflicting maybe?
>>
>> 2) You know when you see something in a new light and wondered how you
>> could be so silly, like when I saw CW and realised it meant Cakewalk,
>> but for the longest time I couldn't think of any acronym the CW stood
>> for?
>>
>> So if my Midi Mapper is being used, how can I stop it so I can use it
>> with the MIDIOxs?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Oct 5, 11:41 pm, David De <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Oct 5, 8:36 pm, OldNick <nsremova...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:02:58 -0700, David De
>> > > <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com> wrote stuff
>> > > and I replied:
>>
>> > > Just a thought. It sounds as if you have eliminiated CW as the
>> > > problem, or at least worked through setting it up properly.
>>
>> > What is CW?
>>
>> > > Get MIDIOx (Every MIDIist should have it anyway <G>), and see if it
>> > > shows any input via MIDI. It's another alternative. You still need to
>> > > set up MIDI inputs, and choose the Vibra 128 MIDI. MIDIOx will
>> > > actually show the notes as you play them.
>>
>> > Excellent, I have downloaded the MIDIOx program.  What should I be
>> > looking for to tell what is working and what is not?  Is there a test
>> > with the program to see if it is receiving data from the music
>> > keyboard?
>
>
>

Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 09:05:16 -0700, David De
<daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote stuff
and I replied:

BUM! Wrong button.

Don't worry about outputs at all. You are only interested in the input
at present. MIDI Mapper is an output only thing IIRC. it decides what
will play MIDIs on your machine already.

So in MIDI Ox you are selecting an input of your soundcard's MIDI
port? (Options / MIDI Devices, and highlight that port.)

And when you play the keyboard, nothing happens? MIDI OX has both
Input and Output monitor screens. Make sure the Input one is showing.
Window Menu / Monitor - Input

MIDI Ox should then show a data stream if you play the keyboard. IT
does not worry about Channels etc, it just displays all data.

If that shows no input, then it looks like hardware somewhere. Some of
the Game Port -> MIDI cables can be dodgy.

Or as was suggested there is some settiing on your Kbrd to send MIDI.
>Well, that was a non-starter.  The reason it was saying it was in use
>was because I had selected more than one output.
>Using Midiox, I can use the computer keyboard and it works - my output
>panel shows it working, but alas, using my musical keyboard does
>nothing.
>
>I am not sure where to go from here.
>
>
>On Oct 6, 10:47 am, David De <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> Interesting things have happened that lead me to believe I am
>> hopefully on the right track:
>>
>> 1) When I use MIDIOx, the first thing I do is go to options and
>> connect to my inputs and outputs - if I selected the Output of MIDI
>> MAPPER, it says it is already in use.  That means it might be
>> conflicting maybe?
>>
>> 2) You know when you see something in a new light and wondered how you
>> could be so silly, like when I saw CW and realised it meant Cakewalk,
>> but for the longest time I couldn't think of any acronym the CW stood
>> for?
>>
>> So if my Midi Mapper is being used, how can I stop it so I can use it
>> with the MIDIOxs?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Oct 5, 11:41 pm, David De <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Oct 5, 8:36 pm, OldNick <nsremova...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:02:58 -0700, David De
>> > > <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com> wrote stuff
>> > > and I replied:
>>
>> > > Just a thought. It sounds as if you have eliminiated CW as the
>> > > problem, or at least worked through setting it up properly.
>>
>> > What is CW?
>>
>> > > Get MIDIOx (Every MIDIist should have it anyway <G>), and see if it
>> > > shows any input via MIDI. It's another alternative. You still need to
>> > > set up MIDI inputs, and choose the Vibra 128 MIDI. MIDIOx will
>> > > actually show the notes as you play them.
>>
>> > Excellent, I have downloaded the MIDIOx program.  What should I be
>> > looking for to tell what is working and what is not?  Is there a test
>> > with the program to see if it is receiving data from the music
>> > keyboard?
>
>
>

Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

On Oct 6, 5:58 pm, OldNick <nsremova...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 09:05:16 -0700, David De
> <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com> wrote stuff
> and I replied:
>
> BUM! Wrong button.

I am just happy you keep replying and help me out!
>
> Don't worry about outputs at all. You are only interested in the input
> at present. MIDI Mapper is an output only thing IIRC. it decides what
> will play MIDIs on your machine already.

Using Midiox
The midi input is : Creative SBPCI External Midi
it is the only option for me when Midiox starts up.

> So in MIDI Ox you are selecting an input of your soundcard's MIDI
> port? (Options / MIDI Devices, and highlight that port.)


> And when you play the keyboard, nothing happens? MIDI OX has both
> Input and Output monitor screens. Make sure the Input one is showing.
> Window Menu / Monitor - Input
> MIDI Ox should then show a data stream if you play the keyboard. IT
> does not worry about Channels etc, it just displays all data.

Yes, there is no stream, nothing happens when I play.
>
> If that shows no input, then it looks like hardware somewhere. Some of
> the Game Port -> MIDI cables can be dodgy.

That what I think, but I am not sure how to figure out if it is the
Card or the Piano!

> Or as was suggested there is some settiing on your Kbrd to send MIDI.

I have turned on the General Midi setting on the piano and have it
tuned to Channel 1, unfortunately, it is not helping.

"David De" <daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191710157.814932.151650@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

What happens if you reverse the MIDI cables connected to your keyboard?
I know you said you had MIDI Out from the keyboard connected to the MIDI In
end of the cable but humour me - try reversing the connections.

In your Audio Settings on the Computer (MIDI Mapper) - What device is
selected for MIDI output?
(I know Nick said it's not relevant to the input problem but we might as
well get everything right while we're at it)!

Have you tried sending the output from a MIDI file back to the keyboard for
playback?

Everything's worth a try.

On Oct 6, 9:25 pm, "Barry Graham" <btgra...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> "David De" <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1191710157.814932.151650@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> What happens if you reverse the MIDI cables connected to your keyboard?
> I know you said you had MIDI Out from the keyboard connected to the MIDI In
> end of the cable but humour me - try reversing the connections.

I did try reversing the connections back and forth and in every which
way possible.

> In your Audio Settings on the Computer (MIDI Mapper) - What device is
> selected for MIDI output?

Creative SBPCI external midi in my control panel settings.

> (I know Nick said it's not relevant to the input problem but we might as
> well get everything right while we're at it)!

> Have you tried sending the output from a MIDI file back to the keyboard for
> playback?

That a good idea, how do I do that?

"David De" <daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191728203.047413.3150@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...

> > In your Audio Settings on the Computer (MIDI Mapper) - What device is
> > selected for MIDI output?
>
> Creative SBPCI external midi in my control panel settings.

I'm not sure I remember if you told us your operating system (Win98, XP,
Vista)?
What are the other MIDI Out (playback) options (if any).
External MIDI sounds like you are sending to an external device like your
keyboard via MIDI Out.
Is there an option that uses your soundcard for playback?

> > Have you tried sending the output from a MIDI file back to the keyboard
for
> > playback?
>
> That a good idea, how do I do that?

Select External MIDI for output - set up your keyboard to accept MIDI In -
(your manual).
Find a MIDI file on your system and play it (click on it).
If the MIDI Mapper is set to send to an external device and your keyboard is
set to receive you should hear the playback through the keyboard speakers.

I'm a bit surprised that your USB software doesn't appear as an ooutput
device - is it listed among your drivers?

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:35:57 -0700, David De
<daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote stuff
and I replied:


>I am just happy you keep replying and help me out!

I know the value of moral support.. Been there done that.

>Using Midiox
>The midi input is : Creative SBPCI External Midi
>it is the only option for me when Midiox starts up.

Sounds right.

>Yes, there is no stream, nothing happens when I play.

OK. We have elimiinated CW as the possible culprit.

>That what I think, but I am not sure how to figure out if it is the
>Card or the Piano!

or cable...it's the easiest to try, and they are often not good. 

>
>> Or as was suggested there is some settiing on your Kbrd to send MIDI.
>
>I have turned on the General Midi setting on the piano and have it
>tuned to Channel 1, unfortunately, it is not helping.

You may need to look for a setting that has Send (Transmit etc)  MIDI
On/Off in your piano's menus. General MIDI is simply an implementation
of Patches (sounds) that makes Patch 1 Piano, Patch X = trombone etc.
It's nothing to do with the MIDI signals thenselves. being sent.
Tuning to Channel one may be to do with receiving MIDI, not sending.

Do you have a manual for the Kbrd? You may be able to download it from
the web.

Other things to try

Keyboard / setup
- Do you have access to any other MIDI gear; anything that takes MIDI
in and puts noise out? 
	- Try connecting using "proper" MIDI cables, and see if you can
make the other gear respond, using the other gear's audio out to
listen.
Cable
- get hold of another Game-MIDI adaptor
Card /Drivers
- have to downloaded the latest drivers? Are you sure you have XP
drivers?
- reinstall the drivers for your card (and yes there could be a clash
with other gear)
	- move the card to another slot and try again
!! Do you have an onboard audio card that has a game port? That MAY
have MIDI capabilities. Remove the Furtive (Creative) card and see if
you can locate a MIDI /game port on the MoBo card. Try that.
MIDI setup generally
- can you use the piano to play MIDI files? Plug the amp's input to
the Line out on your piano, leave MIDI connected: both cables. Use
Cakewalk to play a MIDI via the Creative MIDI out port (or play a MIDI
song using MIDIOX; that's simpler) . Does that work? I don't _think_
you have tried that.
Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

Ok, I am going back to the basics on this.  First off, I don't have a
joystick port or other midi input on the motherboard (on either
computer - I have two systems, but I am very reluctant to try out the
audio card on another system in case it is causing a bottleneck of
some sort with the audio and also all the extra drivers that will
inevitably be forever cluttering up windows).  I am running under XP.
Here is what I have discovered.
1)  When I go to control panel > Sound Devices > Audio > Midi -
I have three selections :
(a) Creative SDPCI MIDI
(b) Creative SBPCI Synth
(c) MS GS Wavetable SW Synth

If I select (a), and I run the Midi test file (a sound file I got from
the internet).  There is no sound coming from my computer speakers.
If I select (b) or (c), the midi test file sound is fine and I can
hear it.

Now, knowing one tidbit of information, does it change anything?



Using MidioX - If I click the button to make the the computer keyboard
into a musical keyboard, the lights flash and the MidiOX inputs and
outputs work.

> You may need to look for a setting that has Send (Transmit etc)  MIDI
> On/Off in your piano's menus. General MIDI is simply an implementation
> of Patches (sounds) that makes Patch 1 Piano, Patch X = trombone etc.
> It's nothing to do with the MIDI signals thenselves. being sent.
> Tuning to Channel one may be to do with receiving MIDI, not sending.

I have read the instructions and it says there is a general Midi OFF/
ON toggle.  I have tried with both and still nothing has changed.

> Do you have a manual for the Kbrd? You may be able to download it from
> the web.

I have it and fortunately it is in pristine conditions, unfortunately,
it only has about 2 pages on midi input and output.  One of them being
set the patch (which I have) and the other being General midi OFF/ON,
which I have also tried.

> Other things to try
>
> Keyboard / setup
> - Do you have access to any other MIDI gear; anything that takes MIDI
> in and puts noise out?

I believe to my best recollection, the concertmate is the only thing I
have.

>         - Try connecting using "proper" MIDI cables, and see if you can
> make the other gear respond, using the other gear's audio out to
> listen.
> Cable
> - get hold of another Game-MIDI adaptor
> Card /Drivers
> - have to downloaded the latest drivers? Are you sure you have XP
> drivers?
> - reinstall the drivers for your card (and yes there could be a clash
> with other gear)

The challenge is that this card is older and the newest drivers I
found were from 2001.

>         - move the card to another slot and try again

Ok, I will try that.

> !! Do you have an onboard audio card that has a game port? That MAY
> have MIDI capabilities. Remove the Furtive (Creative) card and see if
> you can locate a MIDI /game port on the MoBo card. Try that.

This motherboard is the P5P800SE and does NOT have the joystick or
midi input.

> MIDI setup generally
> - can you use the piano to play MIDI files? Plug the amp's input to
> the Line out on your piano, leave MIDI connected: both cables. Use
> Cakewalk to play a MIDI via the Creative MIDI out port (or play a MIDI
> song using MIDIOX; that's simpler) . Does that work? I don't _think_
> you have tried that.

Ok, what do you mean by amp's input?  Do you mean the audio card Line
in (1/8 stereo) to the Line in (1/8 stereo) of the Concertmate?

This is also interesting, according to my manual and this :
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17558&vpn=P5P800SE&manufacture=ASUS#Specifications
It says the motherboard has a midi out - I have looked and don't see
it as an external input.  I guess it must be an internal connector -
not sure how to use that though...any thoughts with this information?

Again, much appreciated!



> Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

Is the sound card seated properly in its slot?  Moving a PC may flex the 
motherboard enough to half-unplug some cards.  Try another slot?  Is the 
"shell" side of the midi port adaptor cable plugged in all the way?  The 
wrong way?  When it's in, tighten those screws so it stays there.

Seems like something is wrong at a basic level.

----M.B.


"David De" <daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1191445378.173567.222340@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>I am trying to use Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 with my midi keyboard. I just
> purchased a new sound card (cheap) and hooked up the OUTPUT from the
> MIDI to the input on the audio card.
>
> The audio card is the Vibra128 and I have installed all the software
> with it.  The sound seems to work fine with regular music.
>
> Do I need to install soundfonts or something to get this to work?
> When I start up Cakewalk, there is a little keyboard like icon in the
> bottom right corner, but the lights never vary as I play the keyboard
> making me believe it is not receiving the signal.  Maybe faulty sound
> card?  How could I check?
>
> Thanks
> 

I have tried it in three slots, all the same result.  It is locked in
and the midi 15 pin connector is tightened as well.  I agree,
something is happening at the basic level, but what?

On Oct 7, 1:44 pm, "Mark" <bone...@rogers.com> wrote:
> Is the sound card seated properly in its slot?  Moving a PC may flex the
> motherboard enough to half-unplug some cards.  Try another slot?  Is the
> "shell" side of the midi port adaptor cable plugged in all the way?  The
> wrong way?  When it's in, tighten those screws so it stays there.
>
> Seems like something is wrong at a basic level.
>
> ----M.B.
>

Break-throughs always come at a price, huh?  I managed to get an older
computer up and running that was sitting in storage running on Win98
(runs like molasses).  This computer is about 7 years old but has a
midi out.  I tried MidiOX and hooked my keyboard up to it - I turned
on the input and hit the keys on the concertmate 1500, immediately it
started showing the musical keys.  The cable, the concertmate all
work.  Now, it is either the sound card or a conflict with the
motherboard.  I am thinking it is a conflict.  I don't really want to
re-format the hard drive for this, but I might spend some money and
get a midi/joystick card that works with the internal motherboard midi
pins.  I feel though something is impeding the transfer of
information.  How to figure this out, I am not sure.  I have
uninstalled all of the drivers and soundcard information (I believe)
from the computer and rebooted.  The card is found again and it starts
all over, but still no joy.  I might go into Safe Mode and see if
there is something there that I missed.  Any other advise to get this
working?
>
> > Is the sound card seated properly in its slot?  Moving a PC may flex the
> > motherboard enough to half-unplug some cards.  Try another slot?  Is the
> > "shell" side of the midi port adaptor cable plugged in all the way?  The
> > wrong way?  When it's in, tighten those screws so it stays there.
>
> > Seems like something is wrong at a basic level.
>
> > ----M.B.

Quick question : I am deleting all the files for the Soundblaster and
the Creative Vibra - BUT should I go into the Device Manager and
delete the files that are associated with media control devices : in
the MEDIA DEVICE CONTROL PROPERTIES - they look like a bunch of .dll -
MSIwave.dll , MCIseq.dll etc.

"David De" <daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191790335.762593.307310@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> Quick question : I am deleting all the files for the Soundblaster and
> the Creative Vibra - BUT should I go into the Device Manager and
> delete the files that are associated with media control devices : in
> the MEDIA DEVICE CONTROL PROPERTIES - they look like a bunch of .dll -
> MSIwave.dll , MCIseq.dll etc.
>
>

No, don't delete those dll file unless you are absolutely sure that no other
windows program needs them. For example, some of those might also be used by
Cakewalk. At the worse, those files will just use up a small amount of hard
disk space.

To rule out a conflict with the motherboard, you have to completely disable
any onboard sound if you are going to use the Vibra128 as your primary
soundcard. It's very rare that a system can use two soundcards
simultaneously without a resource conflict.

Check your motherboard manual, if you have it.

For some boards, the disabling the onboard sound is as simple as a BIOS
option. For other boards, removing or changing a jumper on the board may be
necessary.

If that still fails, then check any support pages on Creative's website to
see if the soundcard needs a joystick port driver in order to establish MIDI
communication. (As another test, does a joystick itself actually get
detected by the system if it is plugged in to the joystick port--even
without using the 15-pin joystick-to-MIDI cable? Plug in a joystick or
joypad, go into the Game Controllers control panel and just try calibration.
If that doesn't work, then a joystick driver is definitely required for
both.)

"David De" <daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191787337.380552.181540@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Break-throughs always come at a price, huh?  I managed to get an older
> computer up and running that was sitting in storage running on Win98
> (runs like molasses).  This computer is about 7 years old but has a
> midi out.  I tried MidiOX and hooked my keyboard up to it - I turned
> on the input and hit the keys on the concertmate 1500, immediately it
> started showing the musical keys.  The cable, the concertmate all
> work.  Now, it is either the sound card or a conflict with the
> motherboard.  I am thinking it is a conflict.  I don't really want to
> re-format the hard drive for this, but I might spend some money and
> get a midi/joystick card that works with the internal motherboard midi
> pins.  I feel though something is impeding the transfer of
> information.  How to figure this out, I am not sure.  I have
> uninstalled all of the drivers and soundcard information (I believe)
> from the computer and rebooted.  The card is found again and it starts
> all over, but still no joy.  I might go into Safe Mode and see if
> there is something there that I missed.  Any other advise to get this
> working?
> >
> > > Is the sound card seated properly in its slot?  Moving a PC may flex
the
> > > motherboard enough to half-unplug some cards.  Try another slot?  Is
the
> > > "shell" side of the midi port adaptor cable plugged in all the way?
The
> > > wrong way?  When it's in, tighten those screws so it stays there.
> >
> > > Seems like something is wrong at a basic level.
> >
> > > ----M.B.
>
>

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:57:32 -0700, David De
<daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote stuff
and I replied:

>Ok, I am going back to the basics on this.  First off, I don't have a
>joystick port or other midi input on the motherboard (on either
>computer - I have two systems, but I am very reluctant to try out the
>audio card on another system in case it is causing a bottleneck of
>some sort with the audio and also all the extra drivers that will
>inevitably be forever cluttering up windows).  I am running under XP.
>Here is what I have discovered.
>1)  When I go to control panel > Sound Devices > Audio > Midi -
>I have three selections :
>(a) Creative SDPCI MIDI
>(b) Creative SBPCI Synth
>(c) MS GS Wavetable SW Synth
>
>If I select (a), and I run the Midi test file (a sound file I got from
>the internet).  There is no sound coming from my computer speakers.
>If I select (b) or (c), the midi test file sound is fine and I can
>hear it.

>
>Now, knowing one tidbit of information, does it change anything?

That makes sense; the MIDI out is to control your keyboard, and make
_it_ make sounds when you play a midi file on your PC. But it has
nothing to do with the current problem. We are looking at MIDI IN.>
>
>
>Using MidioX - If I click the button to make the the computer keyboard
>into a musical keyboard, the lights flash and the MidiOX inputs and
>outputs work.

OK. Fine. Still sounds like the card or the cable.


>I have read the instructions and it says there is a general Midi OFF/
>ON toggle.  I have tried with both and still nothing has changed.

Again. General MIDI is a MIDI standard, not a transmit setting, unless
either the Kbrd maker or I is/ am wrong.

>I have it and fortunately it is in pristine conditions, unfortunately,
>it only has about 2 pages on midi input and output.  One of them being
>set the patch (which I have) and the other being General midi OFF/ON,
>which I have also tried.
>
>> Other things to try

>I believe to my best recollection, the concertmate is the only thing I
>have.

>The challenge is that this card is older and the newest drivers I
>found were from 2001.

Well that does not look too good. Seriously, with all the time and
angst involved,  you can get an audio card for $20-30, up to date.
Just make sure it has a MIDI-capable game port.
>
>>         - move the card to another slot and try again
>
>Ok, I will try that.

>This motherboard is the P5P800SE and does NOT have the joystick or
>midi input.

Drat.

>Ok, what do you mean by amp's input?  Do you mean the audio card Line
>in (1/8 stereo) to the Line in (1/8 stereo) of the Concertmate?

Your speakers are most likely powered speakers, from your PC? Either
that or you use an amplifier to play music from your PC. They plug
into the PC's soundcard socket (stereo 3.5mm) . Plug them into the
Kbrd's Line Out instead, then try to play MIDI from the PC, but using
the Kbrd as the synth, not the stuff in the PC. I know this is output,
and I have been saying ignore that for now, but we may as well check
the MIDI Out as well as the MIDI In of the card.

>
>This is also interesting, according to my manual and this :
>http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17558&vpn=P5P800SE&manufacture=ASUS#Specifications
>It says the motherboard has a midi out - I have looked and don't see
>it as an external input.  I guess it must be an internal connector -
>not sure how to use that though...any thoughts with this information?

Try asking on the froum that the above URL mentions, I guess.
>
>Again, much appreciated!
>
>
>
>> Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain
>

Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

On Oct 7, 5:15 pm, "Daniel W. Rouse Jr." <dwrous...@nethere.comNOSPAM>
wrote:
> For some boards, the disabling the onboard sound is as simple as a BIOS
> option. For other boards, removing or changing a jumper on the board may be
> necessary.

It has already been done. I have disabled it in the BIOS.

> If that still fails, then check any support pages on Creative's website to
> see if the soundcard needs a joystick port driver in order to establish MIDI
> communication. (As another test, does a joystick itself actually get
> detected by the system if it is plugged in to the joystick port--even
> without using the 15-pin joystick-to-MIDI cable? Plug in a joystick or
> joypad, go into the Game Controllers control panel and just try calibration.
> If that doesn't work, then a joystick driver is definitely required for
> both.)

I don't have a joystick.  I don't play video games, so I can't really
do much there for testing.  Besides there is only one input on the
soundcard - the 15 pin (and the 4 audio inputs)

After all that, maybe it would save your sanity to invest in a 1x1 USB midi 
adaptor (edirol or m-audio or whatever).  Keep the soundblaster in there, 
but use the 1x1 for midi.


"David De" <daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1191787337.380552.181540@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Break-throughs always come at a price, huh?  I managed to get an older
> computer up and running that was sitting in storage running on Win98
> (runs like molasses).  This computer is about 7 years old but has a
> midi out.  I tried MidiOX and hooked my keyboard up to it - I turned
> on the input and hit the keys on the concertmate 1500, immediately it
> started showing the musical keys.  The cable, the concertmate all
> work.  Now, it is either the sound card or a conflict with the
> motherboard.  I am thinking it is a conflict.  I don't really want to
> re-format the hard drive for this, but I might spend some money and
> get a midi/joystick card that works with the internal motherboard midi
> pins.  I feel though something is impeding the transfer of
> information.  How to figure this out, I am not sure.  I have
> uninstalled all of the drivers and soundcard information (I believe)
> from the computer and rebooted.  The card is found again and it starts
> all over, but still no joy.  I might go into Safe Mode and see if
> there is something there that I missed.  Any other advise to get this
> working?
>>
>> > Is the sound card seated properly in its slot?  Moving a PC may flex 
>> > the
>> > motherboard enough to half-unplug some cards.  Try another slot?  Is 
>> > the
>> > "shell" side of the midi port adaptor cable plugged in all the way? 
>> > The
>> > wrong way?  When it's in, tighten those screws so it stays there.
>>
>> > Seems like something is wrong at a basic level.
>>
>> > ----M.B.
>
> 

Well, I gave up on the Audio card and went and purchased an adapter
for the internal midi on my Asus motherboard.  Works great.  I wish I
had done this 1 week ago...
The funny thing is if I had read the manual in the first place, I
wouldn't have purchased the adapter instead of the sound card.  Live
and learn.

Thank for everyone's help.

On Oct 8, 11:41 pm, "Mark" <bone...@rogers.com> wrote:
> After all that, maybe it would save your sanity to invest in a 1x1 USB midi
> adaptor (edirol or m-audio or whatever).  Keep the soundblaster in there,
> but use the 1x1 for midi.
>
> "David De" <daviddelaneyfilmdirec...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1191787337.380552.181540@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Break-throughs always come at a price, huh?  I managed to get an older
> > computer up and running that was sitting in storage running on Win98
> > (runs like molasses).  This computer is about 7 years old but has a
> > midi out.  I tried MidiOX and hooked my keyboard up to it - I turned
> > on the input and hit the keys on the concertmate 1500, immediately it
> > started showing the musical keys.  The cable, the concertmate all
> > work.  Now, it is either the sound card or a conflict with the
> > motherboard.  I am thinking it is a conflict.  I don't really want to
> > re-format the hard drive for this, but I might spend some money and
> > get a midi/joystick card that works with the internal motherboard midi
> > pins.  I feel though something is impeding the transfer of
> > information.  How to figure this out, I am not sure.  I have
> > uninstalled all of the drivers and soundcard information (I believe)
> > from the computer and rebooted.  The card is found again and it starts
> > all over, but still no joy.  I might go into Safe Mode and see if
> > there is something there that I missed.  Any other advise to get this
> > working?
>
> >> > Is the sound card seated properly in its slot?  Moving a PC may flex
> >> > the
> >> > motherboard enough to half-unplug some cards.  Try another slot?  Is
> >> > the
> >> > "shell" side of the midi port adaptor cable plugged in all the way?
> >> > The
> >> > wrong way?  When it's in, tighten those screws so it stays there.
>
> >> > Seems like something is wrong at a basic level.
>
> >> > ----M.B.

On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:33:04 -0700, David De
<daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote stuff
and I replied:

Yaaay! <G>

SOmetimes ya just gotta make the chop....

>Well, I gave up on the Audio card and went and purchased an adapter
>for the internal midi on my Asus motherboard.  Works great.  I wish I
>had done this 1 week ago...
>The funny thing is if I had read the manual in the first place, I
>wouldn't have purchased the adapter instead of the sound card.  Live
>and learn.
>
>Thank for everyone's help.
>

Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:02:58 -0700, David De
<daviddelaneyfilmdirector@gmail.com> wrote stuff
and I replied:

yo'all part o the community? Join in. Keep th'input coming. Le's hear
it from ya!

Yay!
Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain