Syncing multiple MIDI Devices and Live MIDI Drum Looping

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I have been considering a number of different setups for a one-man-band act 
and I wanted to explore an option of using Roland Handsonic 10, which seemed 
interesting to me because of its excellent interface/pads --it is most 
instrument-like of all compact triggers I have seen --, and because of its 
excellent sound pallete, and using BOSS RC-50 for guitar/bass looping.



What I don't know is what device would be a suitable sequencer (one that 
would allow uninterrupted, "on the fly", construction of loops), and how 
this sequencer could be setup to be able to record and trigger sequences 
from Handsonic while at the same behaving as a master MIDI clock for Boss 
RC-50.



One option that was suggested to me in one of the earlier postings was to 
use an inexpensive sequencer such as Alesis SR-16, but I am not sure what 
kind of MIDI interface would one use to connect Alesis to Handsonic 10 and 
record and play data from Handsonic, while having Alesis SR-16 connected to 
Boss RC-50, where Alesis SR-16 would provide master MIDI clock information.



In other words, I need to interconnect three MIDI devices and use them for 
the following functions while having them all synced



1)     Handsonic 10 (MIDI triggering � MIDI OUT � Alesis SR-16 records 
sequence

2)     Handsonic 10 (Sound generator) � MIDI IN � Alesis SR -16 plays 
recorded sequence back and HAndsonic generates sound

3)     Alesis SR-16 �  MIDI Master clock info � Boss RC-50



Alesis SR-16 sends master MIDI Clock information.



Could anyone recommend a MIDI interface that would be suitable for such 
setup?



I would appreciate recommendations on suitable sequencers for live, 
uninterrupted, MIDI drum looping, where one can easily shift from recording 
to playing mode, without stopping performance.



Thanks,

Rale


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Reply Rale 2/9/2006 2:02:43 AM

The obvious answer to me is a laptop computer running Ableton Live which 
is the only sequencer I know of capable of dealing with loops on the 
fly.

Incidentally, the Alesis SR-16 is a drum machine, not a full blown 
sequencer, and as far as I'm aware is incapable of recording incoming
MIDI data.

It's certainly not capable of recording loops on the fly as you have to 
deal with the song position pointer stuff manually, although it is 
possible to record short patterns in that way.

Having said that, I'm not in possession of a complete MIDI 
implementation chart for it - Alesis seem to be incredibly bad at 
providing decent MIDI documentation for their modules!

Hope this helps :)
Michael

Followups set to alt.music.midi

In message <7pxGf.642$iD.95@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>, Rale 
<rale_m@excite.com> writes
>
>
>I have been considering a number of different setups for a one-man-band act
>and I wanted to explore an option of using Roland Handsonic 10, which seemed
>interesting to me because of its excellent interface/pads --it is most
>instrument-like of all compact triggers I have seen --, and because of its
>excellent sound pallete, and using BOSS RC-50 for guitar/bass looping.
>
>
>
>What I don't know is what device would be a suitable sequencer (one that
>would allow uninterrupted, "on the fly", construction of loops), and how
>this sequencer could be setup to be able to record and trigger sequences
>from Handsonic while at the same behaving as a master MIDI clock for Boss
>RC-50.
>
>
>
>One option that was suggested to me in one of the earlier postings was to
>use an inexpensive sequencer such as Alesis SR-16, but I am not sure what
>kind of MIDI interface would one use to connect Alesis to Handsonic 10 and
>record and play data from Handsonic, while having Alesis SR-16 connected to
>Boss RC-50, where Alesis SR-16 would provide master MIDI clock information.
>
>
>
>In other words, I need to interconnect three MIDI devices and use them for
>the following functions while having them all synced
>
>
>
>1)     Handsonic 10 (MIDI triggering � MIDI OUT � Alesis SR-16 records
>sequence
>
>2)     Handsonic 10 (Sound generator) � MIDI IN � Alesis SR -16 plays
>recorded sequence back and HAndsonic generates sound
>
>3)     Alesis SR-16 �  MIDI Master clock info � Boss RC-50
>
>
>
>Alesis SR-16 sends master MIDI Clock information.
>
>
>
>Could anyone recommend a MIDI interface that would be suitable for such
>setup?
>
>
>
>I would appreciate recommendations on suitable sequencers for live,
>uninterrupted, MIDI drum looping, where one can easily shift from recording
>to playing mode, without stopping performance.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rale
>
>

-- 
Bye. Michael (8-#
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Reply Michael 2/9/2006 12:24:03 PM


Rale wrote:

> Could anyone recommend a MIDI interface that would be suitable for such 
> setup?

  Long story short, possibly the half-rack MOTU MicroLite. Its cheap, 
runs Mac or PC and carries up to 80 MIDI channels. 5 ins, 5 outs.

  > I would appreciate recommendations on suitable sequencers for live,
> uninterrupted, MIDI drum looping, where one can easily shift from recording 
> to playing mode, without stopping performance.

  The conventional wisdom these days is leaning towards Ableton Live, 
but Tracktion is also good and far cheaper. Reason would be good, but 
its locked into its own internal synths. You're looking at a ton of MIDI 
spaghetti and a laptop to do that live, so consider an effects box with 
a long delay/sample memory, including more guitar-focused items like 
Boomerang. It depends on your playing style and exactly how you want to 
use the recording aspect. Maybe a looper with 2 or 3 minutes in it would 
make a difference in how you structure things.

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Reply HellPope 2/9/2006 5:01:30 PM

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