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[News] [Linux] Is Linux Ahead of All Other Operating Systems?

Color Theory - Linux and Personal Preferences

,----[ Quote ]
| What is confusion is also power. Linux runs in more languages,
| on more platforms, in more ways, than any other OS on the planet.
| It is developed world wide by a huge group of very passionate
| people. It can be made to match the ideals and goals of whomever
| for whatever. If you need simple, easy: it's there! See Xandros or
| Linspire: there are no operating systems easier to install than
| those. None.  Not OS.X even. Note that these both chose KDE for
| the user interface too.
`----

http://talk.bmc.com/blogs/blog-carl/steve-carl/color-theory-linux-personal-prefs

Nice related writeup here:

There is no Bazaar

,----[ Quote ]
| Hell, it never existed in the first place! It's a nice fantasy, a
| pleasant delusion that makes the rest of the Kool-Aid go down, but
| it's total bullshit. There has never been a single successful
| software project built on the model of the Bazaar, not a single one.
`----

http://reddun.blogspot.com/2004/08/there-is-no-bizarre.html
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 13:12:29 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:

>Color Theory - Linux and Personal Preferences
>
>,----[ Quote ]
>| What is confusion is also power. Linux runs in more languages,
>| on more platforms, in more ways, than any other OS on the planet.
>| It is developed world wide by a huge group of very passionate
>| people. It can be made to match the ideals and goals of whomever
>| for whatever. If you need simple, easy: it's there! See Xandros or
>| Linspire: there are no operating systems easier to install than
>| those. None.  Not OS.X even. Note that these both chose KDE for
>| the user interface too.
>`----
>
>http://talk.bmc.com/blogs/blog-carl/steve-carl/color-theory-linux-personal-prefs
>
"I do think it is more about preference than anything technical
anymore."

Yes. Exactly....and give Linux development another year of
development...maybe then people will prefer LInux. 

0
5/23/2007 4:36:46 PM
On Wed, 23 May 2007 09:36:46 -0700, John Locke
<johnlocke98513@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 23 May 2007 13:12:29 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
><newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>
>>Color Theory - Linux and Personal Preferences
>>
>>,----[ Quote ]
>>| What is confusion is also power. Linux runs in more languages,
>>| on more platforms, in more ways, than any other OS on the planet.
>>| It is developed world wide by a huge group of very passionate
>>| people. It can be made to match the ideals and goals of whomever
>>| for whatever. If you need simple, easy: it's there! See Xandros or
>>| Linspire: there are no operating systems easier to install than
>>| those. None.  Not OS.X even. Note that these both chose KDE for
>>| the user interface too.
>>`----
>>
>>http://talk.bmc.com/blogs/blog-carl/steve-carl/color-theory-linux-personal-prefs
>>
>"I do think it is more about preference than anything technical
>anymore."
>
>Yes. Exactly....and give Linux development another year of
>development...maybe then people will prefer LInux. 

Oh, so 2008 will be the year of Linux? Like 2007? 2006? 2005? 2004?
2003? 2002? 2001? 2000? 1999? 1998? 1997? 1996? 1995? 1994? 1993?

Can't wait ;-)

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otto901 (493)
5/23/2007 10:03:45 PM
After takin' a swig o' grog, OK belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> Oh, so 2008 will be the year of Linux? Like 2007? 2006? 2005? 2004?
> 2003? 2002? 2001? 2000? 1999? 1998? 1997? 1996? 1995? 1994? 1993?

Linux is like a tumor growing inside your brain.  By the time you notice
it....

-- 
   "It turns out Luddites don't know how to use software properly,
   so you should look into that." -- Bill Gates, FOCUS interview
   http://www.cantrip.org/nobugs.html
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linonut1 (1515)
5/23/2007 11:09:07 PM
In article <nQ35i.493$dy1.250@bigfe9>, linonut@bellsouth.net says...
> After takin' a swig o' grog, OK belched out this bit o' wisdom:
> 
> > Oh, so 2008 will be the year of Linux? Like 2007? 2006? 2005? 2004?
> > 2003? 2002? 2001? 2000? 1999? 1998? 1997? 1996? 1995? 1994? 1993?
> 
> Linux is like a tumor growing inside your brain.  By the time you notice
> it....
> 
> 

OK, everyone get that?  Linonut just declared that Linux is a type of 
cancer.  ;^)
-- 
"There are 10 kinds of people in the world:
those that understand binary and those that don't." - Unknown
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gregc1 (100)
5/23/2007 11:18:59 PM
Verily I say unto thee, that Roy Schestowitz spake thusly:

> Nice related writeup here:
> 
> There is no Bazaar

> http://reddun.blogspot.com/2004/08/there-is-no-bizarre.html

I don't see much "nice" about that rant, in fact it presents a largely
false dichotomy that uses the kernel as a Staw Man and conveniently
ignores the larger part of the FOSS community.

Or as the first respondent put it, the blogger has "largly(sic) missed
the beneficial dynamics of FOSS."

-- 
K.
http://slated.org

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| The Lumberjack Of Bulk Rock City, And His Never Slacking Stribe In
| Exploiting The So Far Undiscovered Areas Of The Intention To Bodily
| Intercourse From The Opposite Species Of His Kind, During Intake Of
| All The Mental Condition That Could Be Derived From Fermentation.ogg"
`----

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spam95 (5695)
5/24/2007 1:22:45 AM
On 2007-05-23, Greg Cox <gregc@REMOVE_THIS_magivark.com> claimed:
> In article <nQ35i.493$dy1.250@bigfe9>, linonut@bellsouth.net says...
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, OK belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>> 
>> > Oh, so 2008 will be the year of Linux? Like 2007? 2006? 2005? 2004?
>> > 2003? 2002? 2001? 2000? 1999? 1998? 1997? 1996? 1995? 1994? 1993?
>> 
>> Linux is like a tumor growing inside your brain.  By the time you notice
>> it....
>> 
>> 
>
> OK, everyone get that?  Linonut just declared that Linux is a type of 
> cancer.  ;^)

So long as he doesn't start trying to "F%#KING KILL GOOGLE!" or start
throwing chairs.......

-- 
VISTA: Virtually Impossible System To Access
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fardblossom (4529)
5/24/2007 1:26:07 AM
__/ [ AB ] on Thursday 24 May 2007 02:26 \__

> On 2007-05-23, Greg Cox <gregc@REMOVE_THIS_magivark.com> claimed:
>> In article <nQ35i.493$dy1.250@bigfe9>, linonut@bellsouth.net says...
>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, OK belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>> 
>>> > Oh, so 2008 will be the year of Linux? Like 2007? 2006? 2005? 2004?
>>> > 2003? 2002? 2001? 2000? 1999? 1998? 1997? 1996? 1995? 1994? 1993?
>>> 
>>> Linux is like a tumor growing inside your brain.  By the time you notice
>>> it....
>>> 
>>> 
>>
>> OK, everyone get that?  Linonut just declared that Linux is a type of
>> cancer.  ;^)
> 
> So long as he doesn't start trying to "F%#KING KILL GOOGLE!" or start
> throwing chairs.......

In case you haven't seen this yet:

http://schestowitz.com/Amusement/images/ballmer-office.png

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newsgroups3 (79677)
5/24/2007 2:56:24 AM
Verily I say unto thee, that Greg Cox spake thusly:
> In article <nQ35i.493$dy1.250@bigfe9>, linonut@bellsouth.net says...
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, OK belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>
>>> Oh, so 2008 will be the year of Linux? Like 2007? 2006? 2005? 2004?
>>> 2003? 2002? 2001? 2000? 1999? 1998? 1997? 1996? 1995? 1994? 1993?
>> Linux is like a tumor growing inside your brain.  By the time you notice
>> it....
>>
>>
> 
> OK, everyone get that?  Linonut just declared that Linux is a type of 
> cancer.  ;^)

*MEDIC!*

-- 
K.
http://slated.org

,----
| Amarok Now Playing: "/mnt/sky/The Sad But True Story Of Ray Mingus,
| The Lumberjack Of Bulk Rock City, And His Never Slacking Stribe In
| Exploiting The So Far Undiscovered Areas Of The Intention To Bodily
| Intercourse From The Opposite Species Of His Kind, During Intake Of
| All The Mental Condition That Could Be Derived From Fermentation.ogg"
`----

Fedora Core release 5 (Bordeaux) on sky, running kernel 2.6.20-1.2312.fc5
 04:11:00 up 37 days,  1:43,  2 users,  load average: 0.75, 0.40, 0.31
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spam95 (5695)
5/24/2007 3:12:28 AM
Linonut wrote:
> After takin' a swig o' grog, OK belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Oh, so 2008 will be the year of Linux? Like 2007? 2006? 2005? 2004?
>> 2003? 2002? 2001? 2000? 1999? 1998? 1997? 1996? 1995? 1994? 1993?
>
> Linux is like a tumor growing inside your brain.  By the time you
> notice it....

....your screen is covered in puke and piss... I mean Gnome and slrn.



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nospam11 (18349)
5/24/2007 5:26:53 AM
On 2007-05-24, Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> claimed:
> __/ [ AB ] on Thursday 24 May 2007 02:26 \__
>
>> On 2007-05-23, Greg Cox <gregc@REMOVE_THIS_magivark.com> claimed:
>>> In article <nQ35i.493$dy1.250@bigfe9>, linonut@bellsouth.net says...
>>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, OK belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>>> 
>>>> > Oh, so 2008 will be the year of Linux? Like 2007? 2006? 2005? 2004?
>>>> > 2003? 2002? 2001? 2000? 1999? 1998? 1997? 1996? 1995? 1994? 1993?
>>>> 
>>>> Linux is like a tumor growing inside your brain.  By the time you notice
>>>> it....
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>
>>> OK, everyone get that?  Linonut just declared that Linux is a type of
>>> cancer.  ;^)
>> 
>> So long as he doesn't start trying to "F%#KING KILL GOOGLE!" or start
>> throwing chairs.......
>
> In case you haven't seen this yet:
>
> http://schestowitz.com/Amusement/images/ballmer-office.png

I'm guessing those framed things he has sitting there are of Morticia,
Lurch, Wednesday and the rest.

One of Fester's most-used lines: "I'll shoot 'em in the back." Seems to
sum things up for the modern-day Fester as well.

-- 
Frontpage: Better than sticking a red hot poker in your eye.
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fardblossom (4529)
5/24/2007 9:10:37 AM
On Thu, 24 May 2007 03:56:24 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> __/ [ AB ] on Thursday 24 May 2007 02:26 \__
> 
>> On 2007-05-23, Greg Cox <gregc@REMOVE_THIS_magivark.com> claimed:
>>> In article <nQ35i.493$dy1.250@bigfe9>, linonut@bellsouth.net says...
>>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, OK belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>>> 
>>>> > Oh, so 2008 will be the year of Linux? Like 2007? 2006? 2005? 2004?
>>>> > 2003? 2002? 2001? 2000? 1999? 1998? 1997? 1996? 1995? 1994? 1993?
>>>> 
>>>> Linux is like a tumor growing inside your brain.  By the time you
>>>> notice it....
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> OK, everyone get that?  Linonut just declared that Linux is a type of
>>> cancer.  ;^)
>> 
>> So long as he doesn't start trying to "F%#KING KILL GOOGLE!" or start
>> throwing chairs.......
> 
> In case you haven't seen this yet:
> 
> http://schestowitz.com/Amusement/images/ballmer-office.png

From the stack of chairs, it appears that Fester is putting his entry in 
online for the World Chair Throwing Championships to be held in Room 13, 
1 Microsoft Way, Redmond, Wa. ;-)
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wp4690 (542)
5/24/2007 9:24:32 AM
After takin' a swig o' grog, Greg Cox belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> In article <nQ35i.493$dy1.250@bigfe9>, linonut@bellsouth.net says...
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, OK belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>> 
>> > Oh, so 2008 will be the year of Linux? Like 2007? 2006? 2005? 2004?
>> > 2003? 2002? 2001? 2000? 1999? 1998? 1997? 1996? 1995? 1994? 1993?
>> 
>> Linux is like a tumor growing inside your brain.  By the time you notice
>> it....
>
> OK, everyone get that?  Linonut just declared that Linux is a type of 
> cancer.  ;^)

Indeed.  But it is benign.

Nay!  Helpful!  Healthful!

-- 
   "Developers!  Developers!  Developers!"  -- Steve Ballmer, CEO Microsoft
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linonut1 (1515)
5/24/2007 11:35:23 AM
After takin' a swig o' grog, DFS belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> Linonut wrote:
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, OK belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>
>>> Oh, so 2008 will be the year of Linux? Like 2007? 2006? 2005? 2004?
>>> 2003? 2002? 2001? 2000? 1999? 1998? 1997? 1996? 1995? 1994? 1993?
>>
>> Linux is like a tumor growing inside your brain.  By the time you
>> notice it....
>
> ...your screen is covered in puke and piss... I mean Gnome and slrn.

I love console apps.  I can connect to home, fire up a screen session
(or two), start a jigdo download, detach from it, reattach every now and
then to check on progress, or wait until I get home and reattach to use
what I downloaded.

I'm not sure if there is a similar product/function for Windows.  I'm
not even sure if there is one for X Windows.  (Maybe Timmy can post a
couple hundred URLs to help me out.)  Are there detachable/attachable
GUI sessions out there?

And I can use slrn and mutt to check things out without getting boosted
by the IT police, and without firing up a GUI-over-ethernet.

Unfortunately, I think IT has blocked me from shelling back to work from
home though the SSH tunnel.  Dang.

-- 
   "Take her in for regrooving." -- The Firesign Theatre
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linonut1 (1515)
5/24/2007 11:41:06 AM
So anyway, it was like, 13:41 CEST May 24 2007, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
Linonut was all like, "Dude,

> [..] Are there detachable/attachable GUI sessions out there?

VNC springs to mind as the obvious option here. There's the terminal
server thing too for microsoftian circumstances, which keeps a
detached session going for some configurable amount of time.

For my part tho, I just run whatever graphical stuff I might briefly
need access to through the ssh tunnel I routinely have open, since
having access to an entire desktop (not to mention the whole bandwidth
thing) would be slightly overkill.

One can't to my knowledge run single graphical applications if one
wants to remotely connect to an ms windows system.

-- 
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spam7 (1369)
5/24/2007 12:29:46 PM
AB wrote:

>One of Fester's most-used lines: "I'll shoot 'em in the back." Seems to
>sum things up for the modern-day Fester as well.

8)  

That's a pretty good analogy for the M$ business model...

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chrisv (22840)
5/24/2007 1:22:28 PM
After takin' a swig o' grog, Johan Lindquist belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> Linonut was all like, "Dude,
>
>> [..] Are there detachable/attachable GUI sessions out there?
>
> VNC springs to mind as the obvious option here. There's the terminal
> server thing too for microsoftian circumstances, which keeps a
> detached session going for some configurable amount of time.

I guess that is kind of the same thing.  The reason I haven't used it
much is the extra bandwidth and I haven't been arsed to set up an SSH
tunnel for it.

And that all would apply to Windows, too.

-- 
   I'd rather have a bottle in front of me
   than a frontal lobotomy.
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linonut1 (1515)
5/24/2007 3:54:13 PM
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