http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled

"The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All 
applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and 
the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be 
supported."

"All user data will be stored in the cloud, with the operating system 
only using local flash memory for caching data such as settings. 'If I 
lose my Chrome OS machine, I should be able to buy a new one, log in, 
and within a few seconds get all my applications back,' Pichai claimed."

"Google said consumers won't be able to download the operating system - 
it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's 
specifications. Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said 
it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutions."

Interesting. Can't see it being any threat to winders in this scenario. 
They may build themselves an ecosystem up for gadget nerds but most of 
the mainstream will always want the flexibility of a general purpose 
machine with local data control.

Phil Da Lick! wrote:
> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled
> 
> "The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All 
> applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and 
> the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be 
> supported."
> 
> "All user data will be stored in the cloud, with the operating system 
> only using local flash memory for caching data such as settings. 'If I 
> lose my Chrome OS machine, I should be able to buy a new one, log in, 
> and within a few seconds get all my applications back,' Pichai claimed."
> 
> "Google said consumers won't be able to download the operating system - 
> it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's 
> specifications. Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said 
> it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutions."
> 
> Interesting. Can't see it being any threat to winders in this scenario. 
> They may build themselves an ecosystem up for gadget nerds but most of 
> the mainstream will always want the flexibility of a general purpose 
> machine with local data control.


Yeah, let the whole sale slaughter begin.


http://www.cio.com/article/506136/Targeted_Attacks_Possible_in_the_Cloud_Researchers_Warn


<copied>

The attack described in the report was conducted against Amazon's 
Elastic Computer Cloud (EC2) service. But the vulnerabilities that 
enable it are generic and would likely affect other cloud providers, 
said Eran Tromer, a post-doctoral researcher at MIT's Computer Science 
and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory and one of the authors of the 
report. The report is scheduled to be presented at the Association for 
Computing Machinery (ACM) Conference on Computer and Communications 
Security next month.

Phil Da Lick! wrote:

> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled
> 
> "The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All
> applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and
> the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be
> supported."
> 
> "All user data will be stored in the cloud, with the operating system
> only using local flash memory for caching data such as settings. 'If I
> lose my Chrome OS machine, I should be able to buy a new one, log in,
> and within a few seconds get all my applications back,' Pichai claimed."
> 
> "Google said consumers won't be able to download the operating system -
> it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's
> specifications. Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said
> it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display
> resolutions."
> 
> Interesting. Can't see it being any threat to winders in this scenario.
> They may build themselves an ecosystem up for gadget nerds but most of
> the mainstream will always want the flexibility of a general purpose
> machine with local data control.


I agree. Control freaks and retards have tried to masterfully own their 
client's data before and have failed. Google will be no exception.
Banning hard disks is the route to hell for Google paved with ill 
intentions.

On 09-11-19 4:15 PM, in article
fkkNm.6821$Ym4.2324@text.news.virginmedia.com, "7"
<website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:

> Phil Da Lick! wrote:
> 
>> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled
>> 
>> "The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All
>> applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and
>> the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be
>> supported."
>> 
>> "All user data will be stored in the cloud, with the operating system
>> only using local flash memory for caching data such as settings. 'If I
>> lose my Chrome OS machine, I should be able to buy a new one, log in,
>> and within a few seconds get all my applications back,' Pichai claimed."
>> 
>> "Google said consumers won't be able to download the operating system -
>> it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's
>> specifications. Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said
>> it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display
>> resolutions."
>> 
>> Interesting. Can't see it being any threat to winders in this scenario.
>> They may build themselves an ecosystem up for gadget nerds but most of
>> the mainstream will always want the flexibility of a general purpose
>> machine with local data control.
> 
> 
> I agree. Control freaks and retards have tried to masterfully own their
> client's data before and have failed. Google will be no exception.
> Banning hard disks is the route to hell for Google paved with ill
> intentions.
> 

So is this what all the the ARM Smartbooks we keep hearing about will
deliver?  A thin client device?  Lets also not forget to be critical of
Google for their screen size and resolution specs just like the Advocates
were all over MS for their Netbook specs.

On 2009-11-19, Phil Da Lick! wrote:
> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled
>
> "The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All 
> applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and 
> the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be 
> supported."

Why no HDD? Is this because they want to prevent the user downloading
"unapproved" material?

-- 
Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

Gregory Shearman wrote:

> On 2009-11-19, Phil Da Lick! wrote:
>> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled

>> "The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All 
>> applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and 
>> the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be 
>> supported."

> Why no HDD? Is this because they want to prevent the user downloading
> "unapproved" material?

Google: muwahahahahaha... all your data are belong to us.

Yes, really. Possession is 9/10 of the law.

-- 
Black Dragon

More people died at Chappaquidick than at 3-mile island.

Black Dragon wrote:
> Gregory Shearman wrote:
> 
>> On 2009-11-19, Phil Da Lick! wrote:
>>> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled
> 
>>> "The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All 
>>> applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and 
>>> the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be 
>>> supported."
> 
>> Why no HDD? Is this because they want to prevent the user downloading
>> "unapproved" material?
> 
> Google: muwahahahahaha... all your data are belong to us.
> 
> Yes, really. Possession is 9/10 of the law.
> 

They've certainly shot themselves in the foot there. M$ has no need to 
fear anything like this.

Black Dragon pulled this Usenet boner:

> Gregory Shearman wrote:
>
>> On 2009-11-19, Phil Da Lick! wrote:
>>> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled
>
>>> "The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All 
>>> applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and 
>>> the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be 
>>> supported."
>
>> Why no HDD? Is this because they want to prevent the user downloading
>> "unapproved" material?
>
> Google: muwahahahahaha... all your data are belong to us.
>
> Yes, really. Possession is 9/10 of the law.

Reminds me of Bob Dole's joke about Ford, Carter, and Nixon:

   Ford:    Hear no evil

   Carter:  Speak no evil

   Nixon:   Evil

-- 
A banker is a fellow who lends you his umbrella when the sun is shining
and wants it back the minute it begins to rain.
		-- Mark Twain

Phil Da Lick! <phil_the_lick@SPAMMERSKISSMYARSE.hotmail.com> said on 2009-11-19:
> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled
>
> "The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All 
> applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and 
> the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be 
> supported."

Chrome OS is going to create a buzz. How well it will work, only time
will tell. The cloud is a great concept but there are distinct issues
with it, even when considering the use of docs.google.com. I have
witnessed users' frustration with connectivity issues when working on
a spreadsheet. Users with applications on their desktop could probably
install something or reinstall their office suite to get back to
normal in case something broke but if the network connectivity is
down, that wouldn't be too good. So, I am a bit skeptical right now.
Google does want to promote its products in multiple ways. They have
successfully promoted docs, gmail, picasa, maps, earth, wave and lot many
products in such short time. They might, one day, dictate the
trends of hardware and software.

On 09-11-20 5:23 PM, in article he7btf$tli$4@news.eternal-september.org,
"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote:

> Phil Da Lick! <phil_the_lick@SPAMMERSKISSMYARSE.hotmail.com> said on
> 2009-11-19:
>> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled
>> 
>> "The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All
>> applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and
>> the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be
>> supported."
> 
> Chrome OS is going to create a buzz. How well it will work, only time
> will tell. The cloud is a great concept but there are distinct issues
> with it, even when considering the use of docs.google.com. I have
> witnessed users' frustration with connectivity issues when working on
> a spreadsheet. Users with applications on their desktop could probably
> install something or reinstall their office suite to get back to
> normal in case something broke but if the network connectivity is
> down, that wouldn't be too good. So, I am a bit skeptical right now.
> Google does want to promote its products in multiple ways. They have
> successfully promoted docs, gmail, picasa, maps, earth, wave and lot many
> products in such short time. They might, one day, dictate the
> trends of hardware and software.
> 

What would the benefit of Chrome OS be over say one of the Linux bios
equipped laptops with hyperspace or splashtop that give you the option to
boot in seconds in to a Linux OS or do a normal boot in to Windows?  It
seems to me they would offer everything the Chrome OS brings plus the
advantage of having a full blown OS when wanted.    

"Phil Da Lick!" <phil_the_lick@SPAMMERSKISSMYARSE.hotmail.com> writes:

>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled

>"The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All 
>applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and 
>the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be 
>supported."

>"All user data will be stored in the cloud, with the operating system 
>only using local flash memory for caching data such as settings. 'If I 
>lose my Chrome OS machine, I should be able to buy a new one, log in, 
>and within a few seconds get all my applications back,' Pichai claimed."

>"Google said consumers won't be able to download the operating system - 
>it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's 
>specifications. Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said 
>it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutions."

>Interesting. Can't see it being any threat to winders in this scenario. 
>They may build themselves an ecosystem up for gadget nerds but most of 
>the mainstream will always want the flexibility of a general purpose 
>machine with local data control.


Talk about a disaster waiting to happen. I can't think of a worse idea for
widespread adoption than cloud computing. 


-- 
Hug your sweetie today.

*R* *H*

Rockinghorse Winner pulled this Usenet boner:

> "Phil Da Lick!" <phil_the_lick@SPAMMERSKISSMYARSE.hotmail.com> writes:
>
>>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled
>
>>"The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All 
>>applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and 
>>the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be 
>>supported."
>
>>"All user data will be stored in the cloud, with the operating system 
>>only using local flash memory for caching data such as settings. 'If I 
>>lose my Chrome OS machine, I should be able to buy a new one, log in, 
>>and within a few seconds get all my applications back,' Pichai claimed."
>
>>"Google said consumers won't be able to download the operating system - 
>>it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's 
>>specifications. Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said 
>>it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutions."
>
>>Interesting. Can't see it being any threat to winders in this scenario. 
>>They may build themselves an ecosystem up for gadget nerds but most of 
>>the mainstream will always want the flexibility of a general purpose 
>>machine with local data control.
>
> Talk about a disaster waiting to happen. I can't think of a worse idea for
> widespread adoption than cloud computing. 

Well, I suspect there is already a bridge to cloud computing, called the
iPhone or Blackberry.

-- 
	A man was reading The Canterbury Tales one Saturday morning, when his
wife asked "What have you got there?"  Replied he, "Just my cup and Chaucer."

Megabyte <Megabyte.NoSPAM@sent.com> said on 2009-11-21:
>
> What would the benefit of Chrome OS be over say one of the Linux bios
> equipped laptops with hyperspace or splashtop that give you the option to
> boot in seconds in to a Linux OS or do a normal boot in to Windows?  It
> seems to me they would offer everything the Chrome OS brings plus the
> advantage of having a full blown OS when wanted.    
>

That's a good comment. Yes, Slashtop already provides instant ON and
OFF feature. I assume that the computer has a disk in it whereas
Chrome OS will probably eliminate the need for a hard disk resulting
in a lighter, less power hungry computer. Chrome OS may end up forcing
users to forget about a full blown OS - if their needs are limited to
browsing the Internet or working on the cloud only. But your point is
still valid - why not buy a computer with a full OS and optional
instant ON/OFF capability? That way, a user has the choice to remain
on the local OS/filesystem.

Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> writes:

>Rockinghorse Winner pulled this Usenet boner:

>> "Phil Da Lick!" <phil_the_lick@SPAMMERSKISSMYARSE.hotmail.com> writes:
>>
>>>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled
>>
>>>"The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All 
>>>applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and 
>>>the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be 
>>>supported."
>>
>>>"All user data will be stored in the cloud, with the operating system 
>>>only using local flash memory for caching data such as settings. 'If I 
>>>lose my Chrome OS machine, I should be able to buy a new one, log in, 
>>>and within a few seconds get all my applications back,' Pichai claimed."
>>
>>>"Google said consumers won't be able to download the operating system - 
>>>it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's 
>>>specifications. Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said 
>>>it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutions."
>>
>>>Interesting. Can't see it being any threat to winders in this scenario. 
>>>They may build themselves an ecosystem up for gadget nerds but most of 
>>>the mainstream will always want the flexibility of a general purpose 
>>>machine with local data control.
>>
>> Talk about a disaster waiting to happen. I can't think of a worse idea for
>> widespread adoption than cloud computing. 

>Well, I suspect there is already a bridge to cloud computing, called the
>iPhone or Blackberry.

>-- 
>	A man was reading The Canterbury Tales one Saturday morning, when his
>wife asked "What have you got there?"  Replied he, "Just my cup and Chaucer."

Wasn't the whole raison d'etre of the internet to have a *decentralized*,
distributed network, so that failure of one part would have limited effects
on the other sections of the network? Seems like we are regressing back to
the days of Ma Bell, central stations, etc, rather than fulfilling the
promise of Arapnet. Cloud computing is the answer to what exactly?

-- 
Hug your sweetie today.

*R* *H*

Rockinghorse Winner pulled this Usenet boner:

> Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> writes:
>
> Wasn't the whole raison d'etre of the internet to have a *decentralized*,
> distributed network, so that failure of one part would have limited effects
> on the other sections of the network? Seems like we are regressing back to
> the days of Ma Bell, central stations, etc, rather than fulfilling the
> promise of Arapnet. Cloud computing is the answer to what exactly?

Microsoft.

   :-D

-- 
You are scrupulously honest, frank, and straightforward.  Therefore you
have few friends.

In article <iPCdnWV3OvdM3pXW4p2dnAA@giganews.com>,
 Rockinghorse Winner <rwinner@8600.com> wrote:

> Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> writes:
> 
> >Rockinghorse Winner pulled this Usenet boner:
> 
> >> "Phil Da Lick!" <phil_the_lick@SPAMMERSKISSMYARSE.hotmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >>>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled
> >>
> >>>"The Chrome OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All 
> >>>applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and 
> >>>the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be 
> >>>supported."
> >>
> >>>"All user data will be stored in the cloud, with the operating system 
> >>>only using local flash memory for caching data such as settings. 'If I 
> >>>lose my Chrome OS machine, I should be able to buy a new one, log in, 
> >>>and within a few seconds get all my applications back,' Pichai claimed."
> >>
> >>>"Google said consumers won't be able to download the operating system - 
> >>>it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's 
> >>>specifications. Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said 
> >>>it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutions."
> >>
> >>>Interesting. Can't see it being any threat to winders in this scenario. 
> >>>They may build themselves an ecosystem up for gadget nerds but most of 
> >>>the mainstream will always want the flexibility of a general purpose 
> >>>machine with local data control.
> >>
> >> Talk about a disaster waiting to happen. I can't think of a worse idea for
> >> widespread adoption than cloud computing. 
> 
> >Well, I suspect there is already a bridge to cloud computing, called the
> >iPhone or Blackberry.
> 
> >-- 
> >	A man was reading The Canterbury Tales one Saturday morning, when his
> >wife asked "What have you got there?"  Replied he, "Just my cup and Chaucer."
> 
> Wasn't the whole raison d'etre of the internet to have a *decentralized*,
> distributed network, so that failure of one part would have limited effects
> on the other sections of the network? Seems like we are regressing back to
> the days of Ma Bell, central stations, etc, rather than fulfilling the
> promise of Arapnet. Cloud computing is the answer to what exactly?

Cloud computing basically addresses two major issues:

1) Users who can't or don't want to maintain their own systems.

2) Convenient access to data from multiple devices and/or for multiple 
people in different locations.

-- 
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes