<Quote>
Set Bing as your default search provider and we will donate $3 to help
students.

As we reported yesterday, Microsoft is continuing to grab market share
in Internet search. It has done that through some crafty marketing
efforts, the latest of which is a partnership with DonorsChoose.org to
help support school programs. Microsoft will offer a $3 donation every
time someone pledges to a school project like the Teacher Appreciation
program or the Earth Day Photo Contest. Sounds great, huh?

Well, there's a catch. In order to enable the $3 donation, users must
set Bing as their default search engine....
</Quote>

http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bings_search_share.html

I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.

On 7/15/2010 9:56 AM, nessuno wrote:
> <Quote>
> Set Bing as your default search provider and we will donate $3 to help
> students.
>
> As we reported yesterday, Microsoft is continuing to grab market share
> in Internet search. It has done that through some crafty marketing
> efforts, the latest of which is a partnership with DonorsChoose.org to
> help support school programs. Microsoft will offer a $3 donation every
> time someone pledges to a school project like the Teacher Appreciation
> program or the Earth Day Photo Contest. Sounds great, huh?
>
> Well, there's a catch. In order to enable the $3 donation, users must
> set Bing as their default search engine....
> </Quote>
>
> http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bings_search_share.html
>
> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.

That's why Linux/open source has to be given away.

DFS wrote:
> On 7/15/2010 9:56 AM, nessuno wrote:
>> <Quote>
>> Set Bing as your default search provider and we will donate $3 to help
>> students.
>>
>> As we reported yesterday, Microsoft is continuing to grab market share
>> in Internet search. It has done that through some crafty marketing
>> efforts, the latest of which is a partnership with DonorsChoose.org to
>> help support school programs. Microsoft will offer a $3 donation every
>> time someone pledges to a school project like the Teacher Appreciation
>> program or the Earth Day Photo Contest. Sounds great, huh?
>>
>> Well, there's a catch. In order to enable the $3 donation, users must
>> set Bing as their default search engine....
>> </Quote>
>>
>>http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/
>>microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bings_search_share.html
>>
>> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.
> 
> That's why Linux/open source has to be given away.

Super computers, 3D farm renders, web servers, file servers, email servers, 
database servers, mobile phones, and very many embedded devices, are all 
areas with a significant Linux and GNU/Linux present. Add to this dozens of 
millions of desktops/workstations.

Now, DFS, if GNU/Linux is FOSS crapware why is it that so many professional 
in the highest demanding areas of IT prefer GNU/Linux over Windows?

As for the dominance of Microsoft over the desktop, the reasons why are well 
know and have *nothing* to do with quality.

Regards.

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:11:18 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:

>On 7/15/2010 9:56 AM, nessuno wrote:
>> <Quote>
>> Set Bing as your default search provider and we will donate $3 to help
>> students.
>>
>> As we reported yesterday, Microsoft is continuing to grab market share
>> in Internet search. It has done that through some crafty marketing
>> efforts, the latest of which is a partnership with DonorsChoose.org to
>> help support school programs. Microsoft will offer a $3 donation every
>> time someone pledges to a school project like the Teacher Appreciation
>> program or the Earth Day Photo Contest. Sounds great, huh?
>>
>> Well, there's a catch. In order to enable the $3 donation, users must
>> set Bing as their default search engine....
>> </Quote>
>>
>> http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bings_search_share.html
>>
>> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.
>
>That's why Linux/open source has to be given away.

Fucking A RIGHT!
And even then only a small portion of people use it for their desktop
systems.
Linux is a defective system used by cocksuckers.

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:32:03 +0100, Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> wrote:

>DFS wrote:
>> On 7/15/2010 9:56 AM, nessuno wrote:
>>> <Quote>
>>> Set Bing as your default search provider and we will donate $3 to help
>>> students.
>>>
>>> As we reported yesterday, Microsoft is continuing to grab market share
>>> in Internet search. It has done that through some crafty marketing
>>> efforts, the latest of which is a partnership with DonorsChoose.org to
>>> help support school programs. Microsoft will offer a $3 donation every
>>> time someone pledges to a school project like the Teacher Appreciation
>>> program or the Earth Day Photo Contest. Sounds great, huh?
>>>
>>> Well, there's a catch. In order to enable the $3 donation, users must
>>> set Bing as their default search engine....
>>> </Quote>
>>>
>>>http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/
>>>microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bings_search_share.html
>>>
>>> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.
>> 
>> That's why Linux/open source has to be given away.
>
>Super computers, 
--snipper the usual twisting of the topic.

Look cocksucker, he is talking about the desktop.
Face is fucking defective Linux is going no place fast and in fact
appeers to have been frozin in time for the last 20 years.
You cocksucking Linturds need to wake up and pull your heads out of
each other's rectumms for a look at how poorly your shit ass operating
system is doing competing with Microsoft and Apple.
Why do you Linturd cocksucking Linux users lie so muuch?

nessuno wrote:
> <Quote> Set Bing as your default search provider and we will donate 
> $3 to help students. [...] Well, there's a catch. In order to enable
> the $3 donation, users must set Bing as their default search
> engine.... </Quote>
> 
> http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bings_search_share.html

I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.

It's a bribe, pure and simple.  If it were true charity, it would not
have such a conflicting string attached.

-- 
HPT

On Jul 15, 8:32=A0am, Lusotec <nom...@nomail.not> wrote:
> DFS wrote:
> > On 7/15/2010 9:56 AM, nessuno wrote:
> >> <Quote>
> >> Set Bing as your default search provider and we will donate $3 to help
> >> students.
>
> >> As we reported yesterday, Microsoft is continuing to grab market share
> >> in Internet search. It has done that through some crafty marketing
> >> efforts, the latest of which is a partnership with DonorsChoose.org to
> >> help support school programs. Microsoft will offer a $3 donation every
> >> time someone pledges to a school project like the Teacher Appreciation
> >> program or the Earth Day Photo Contest. Sounds great, huh?
>
> >> Well, there's a catch. In order to enable the $3 donation, users must
> >> set Bing as their default search engine....
> >> </Quote>
>
> >>http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/
> >>microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bings_search_share.html
>
> >> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.
>
> > That's why Linux/open source has to be given away.
>
> Super computers, 3D farm renders, web servers, file servers, email server=
s,
> database servers, mobile phones, and very many embedded devices, are all
> areas with a significant Linux and GNU/Linux present. Add to this dozens =
of
> millions of desktops/workstations.
>
> Now, DFS, if GNU/Linux is FOSS crapware why is it that so many profession=
al
> in the highest demanding areas of IT prefer GNU/Linux over Windows?
>
> As for the dominance of Microsoft over the desktop, the reasons why are w=
ell
> know and have *nothing* to do with quality.
>
> Regards.

Maybe DFS, like Ray Lopez, doesn't think supercomputers or managing
stock exchanges is "serious work".   Strange, though, that operations
like that would rely on "crapware".  Yep, those supercomputer guys at
CERN and elsewhere must be some real "crapware victims".

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> <Quote>
> Set Bing as your default search provider and we will donate $3 to help
> students.
> 
> As we reported yesterday, Microsoft is continuing to grab market share
> in Internet search. It has done that through some crafty marketing
> efforts, the latest of which is a partnership with DonorsChoose.org to
> help support school programs. Microsoft will offer a $3 donation every
> time someone pledges to a school project like the Teacher Appreciation
> program or the Earth Day Photo Contest. Sounds great, huh?
> 
> Well, there's a catch. In order to enable the $3 donation, users must
> set Bing as their default search engine....
> </Quote>
> 
> http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bings_search_share.html
> 
> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.
> 

When has Microsoft ever been able to compete on quality?

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On 7/24/2010 2:26 PM, High Plains Thumper wrote:
> nessuno wrote:
>> <Quote>  Set Bing as your default search provider and we will donate
>> $3 to help students. [...] Well, there's a catch. In order to enable
>> the $3 donation, users must set Bing as their default search
>> engine....</Quote>
>>
>> http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bings_search_share.html
>
> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.
>
> It's a bribe, pure and simple.  If it were true charity, it would not
> have such a conflicting string attached.

But giving away a DVD full of software [you claim] is worth $thousands 
is not a bribe, and is 'competing on the basis of quality'... right bozo?

uh huh...

Fact is, because of this free software bribe, Linux gets positive 
reviews - from its "advocates" - that are far, far, far out of 
proportion to the kualitee of the crapware.

DFS wrote:
> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>> nessuno wrote:
>> 
>>> <Quote>  Set Bing as your default search provider and we will
>>> donate $3 to help students. [...] Well, there's a catch. In order
>>> to enable the $3 donation, users must set Bing as their default
>>> search engine....</Quote>
>>> 
>>> http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bings_search_share.html
>>
>> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.
>> 
>> It's a bribe, pure and simple.  If it were true charity, it would
>> not have such a conflicting string attached.
> 
> But giving away a DVD full of software [you claim] is worth
> $thousands is not a bribe, and is 'competing on the basis of
> quality'... right bozo? uh huh...

Stupid logic.  I don't see Linux advocates putting strings on use of
Linux software.

> Fact is,

Yes?

> because of this free software

Yes?

> bribe,

Nope.

Linux gets positive reviews

Wrong.  Linux stands on its own merits.

> - from its "advocates"

Nope.

> - that are far, far, far out of proportion

Only from DFS and Wintrolls.

> to the kualitee of the crapware.

Says DFS.

[quote]
Some industry experts continue to believe that Linux remains an �edge of
the enterprise� solution. These IT leaders see Linux relegated to the
function of print and web serving, but not used extensively for core
applications roles like email, data management, etc.

A segment of IT leaders still hold the view that Linux is neither
prolific in their data centers nor does it run mission critical
applications.

This perspective seems at odds with reality, considering that as far
back as 2004 research firms were reporting the role of Linux in mission
critical application environments. Forrester research then showed that
�fifty-three percent of the 140 corporate executives surveyed run
mission-critical applications on Linux, and 52% choose Linux for new
apps.�, from their Linux Crosses Into Mission-Critical Apps.

Not suprisingly, the many recent publications indicate that the role for
Linux in mission critical deployments is continually growing. The recent
IDC whitepaper found that:

"IDC has seen a movement to increasingly favor the use of Linux as a
platform to support more mission-critical workloads on all architectures
where Linux is used" [...]

In many cases, Linux use occurs across the enterprise without any
recognition or emphasis. This subtle deployment of Linux servers impacts
the overall acknowledgment of its use in mission critical functions of
the business.

However, Linux deployments for mission critical functions are steadily
increasing. I've reiterated this in several earlier articles including:
Linux in Enterprise Is Already Prime Time.

The healthcare industry serves as a reasonable example, where the
mainframe market growth has been significant over the past few years.
Much of this growth is led by major corporations like IBM -- with the
underlying OS being Linux.

Linux is used extensively in Hospitals, Data centers, Call centers, and
a growing number of email and business systems contexts. [...]

Functionality and costs factor strongly in current mission critical
deployments and Linux is an overt fit.

Leading mission critical solutions companies like IBM, Unisys, and
Fujitsu continue to increasingly deploy their Linux based systems,
ensuring long term growth. [...]

� 2010 Mark Rais & Reallylinux.com. All rights reserved.
[/quote]

http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/missioncriticallinux.shtml

-- 
HPT

High Plains Thumper stated in post i2fube$lji$1@tornado.tornevall.net on
7/24/10 4:43 PM:

>>>> http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bi
>>>> ngs_search_share.html
>>> 
>>> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.
>>> 
>>> It's a bribe, pure and simple.  If it were true charity, it would
>>> not have such a conflicting string attached.
>> 
>> But giving away a DVD full of software [you claim] is worth
>> $thousands is not a bribe, and is 'competing on the basis of
>> quality'... right bozo? uh huh...
> 
> Stupid logic.  I don't see Linux advocates putting strings on use of
> Linux software.

Do you or do you not think it is OK to give away a DVD with an OS and lots
of software on it?


-- 
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

High Plains Thumper stated in post i2fube$lji$1@tornado.tornevall.net on
7/24/10 4:43 PM:

>> Fact is,
> 
> Yes?
> 
>> because of this free software
> 
> Yes?
> 
>> bribe,
> 
> Nope.
> 
> Linux gets positive reviews
> 
> Wrong.  Linux stands on its own merits.

Right... it is its own merits, largely, that have it with such a tiny user
base (on the desktop) even though it can be had for *free*, as in no cost.

Many in COLA blame MS for this... good to see you admit it is mostly
inherent in what desktop Linux is.




-- 
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

DFS wrote:

> On 7/24/2010 2:26 PM, High Plains Thumper wrote:
>> nessuno wrote:
>>> <Quote>  Set Bing as your default search provider and we will donate
>>> $3 to help students. [...] Well, there's a catch. In order to enable
>>> the $3 donation, users must set Bing as their default search
>>> engine....</Quote>
>>>
>>> 
http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bings_search_share.html
>>
>> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.
>>
>> It's a bribe, pure and simple.  If it were true charity, it would not
>> have such a conflicting string attached.
> 
> But giving away a DVD full of software [you claim] is worth $thousands
> is not a bribe, and is 'competing on the basis of quality'... right bozo?
> 
> uh huh...
> 
> Fact is, because of this free software bribe, Linux gets positive
> reviews - from its "advocates" - that are far, far, far out of
> proportion to the kualitee of the crapware.

MS are trying to Bribe people to use their search engine by paying $3 for 
every person who uses it, how is this the same as a Linux Distro maker 
giving a reviewer a DVD of their software to review. 

You do know that most commercial software makers give away review copies as 
well don't you - the only difference is that often the end users reading the 
review can get the Linux DVD's for virtually the same price (the end user 
has to pay a small cost for the media and either postage or broadband 
download costs) as the reviewer.

How dumb can wintrolls get - when a reviewer gets sent a Ubuntu CD/DVD for 
review it's a bribe because he's got it for free the same as the end user 
yet when MS send a reviewer a free copy of Win7 for review that's just 
standard industry practice?

"High Plains Thumper" <hpt@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:i2fb9l$qai$1@news.albasani.net...
> nessuno wrote:
>> <Quote> Set Bing as your default search provider and we will donate
>> $3 to help students. [...] Well, there's a catch. In order to enable
>> the $3 donation, users must set Bing as their default search
>> engine.... </Quote>
>>
>> http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bings_search_share.html
>
> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.
>
> It's a bribe, pure and simple.  If it were true charity, it would not
> have such a conflicting string attached.

You are an idiot, pure and simple. There are dozens if not hundreds of 
products where if you buy the product a portion of the proceeds go to 
charity. It happens with soup, soda, golf balls and many other items. A 
prime example of this is "Newmans Own" line of products from which the money 
also goes to charity.

Then again, only a stupid nymshifting software thief like you Wendy Rafael 
Thumper would be too stupid to know this.



 

"Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> writes:

> "High Plains Thumper" <hpt@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:i2fb9l$qai$1@news.albasani.net...
>> nessuno wrote:
>>> <Quote> Set Bing as your default search provider and we will donate
>>> $3 to help students. [...] Well, there's a catch. In order to enable
>>> the $3 donation, users must set Bing as their default search
>>> engine.... </Quote>
>>>
>>> http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/07/microsofts_latest_ploy_to_boost_bings_search_share.html
>>
>> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the question.
>>
>> It's a bribe, pure and simple.  If it were true charity, it would not
>> have such a conflicting string attached.
>
> You are an idiot, pure and simple. There are dozens if not hundreds of 
> products where if you buy the product a portion of the proceeds go to 
> charity. It happens with soup, soda, golf balls and many other items. A 
> prime example of this is "Newmans Own" line of products from which the money 
> also goes to charity.
>
> Then again, only a stupid nymshifting software thief like you Wendy Rafael 
> Thumper would be too stupid to know this.

I mean when fat kids with beards sign up to the FSF, a proportion goes
to Stallman and co.

Does Wendy object to that too?

nessuno wrote:
> Lusotec wrote:
>> DFS wrote:
>>> nessuno wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the
>>>> question.
>>> 
>>> That's why Linux/open source has to be given away.
>> 
>> Super computers, 3D farm renders, web servers, file servers, email
>> servers, database servers, mobile phones, and very many embedded
>> devices, are all areas with a significant Linux and GNU/Linux
>> present. Add to this dozens of millions of desktops/workstations.
>> 
>> Now, DFS, if GNU/Linux is FOSS crapware why is it that so many
>> professional in the highest demanding areas of IT prefer GNU/Linux
>> over Windows?
>> 
>> As for the dominance of Microsoft over the desktop, the reasons why
>> are well know and have *nothing* to do with quality.
> 
> Maybe DFS, like Ray Lopez, doesn't think supercomputers or managing 
> stock exchanges is "serious work".   Strange, though, that
> operations like that would rely on "crapware".  Yep, those
> supercomputer guys at CERN and elsewhere must be some real "crapware
> victims".

Yeah, LOL, crapware.  DFS can't account for the likes of fire alarm
control panels, NASA launch control systems, aerospace flight control
systems, flight simulator systems, medical equipment CT scanners, RADAR
systems, and etc.

It really sounds stupid that Linux is only really good for mission
critical and life safety critical systems, and the only real argument
they have at this point is the desktop, which is the last convicted
monopoly maintainer hang-out.  Hence this is why Linux is under such
heavy attack.

-- 
HPT

High Plains Thumper stated in post i2iemc$925$1@tornado.tornevall.net on
7/25/10 3:34 PM:

> nessuno wrote:
>> Lusotec wrote:
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>> nessuno wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the
>>>>> question.
>>>> 
>>>> That's why Linux/open source has to be given away.
>>> 
>>> Super computers, 3D farm renders, web servers, file servers, email
>>> servers, database servers, mobile phones, and very many embedded
>>> devices, are all areas with a significant Linux and GNU/Linux
>>> present. Add to this dozens of millions of desktops/workstations.
>>> 
>>> Now, DFS, if GNU/Linux is FOSS crapware why is it that so many
>>> professional in the highest demanding areas of IT prefer GNU/Linux
>>> over Windows?
>>> 
>>> As for the dominance of Microsoft over the desktop, the reasons why
>>> are well know and have *nothing* to do with quality.
>> 
>> Maybe DFS, like Ray Lopez, doesn't think supercomputers or managing
>> stock exchanges is "serious work".   Strange, though, that
>> operations like that would rely on "crapware".  Yep, those
>> supercomputer guys at CERN and elsewhere must be some real "crapware
>> victims".
> 
> Yeah, LOL, crapware.  DFS can't account for the likes of fire alarm
> control panels, NASA launch control systems, aerospace flight control
> systems, flight simulator systems, medical equipment CT scanners, RADAR
> systems, and etc.
> 
> It really sounds stupid that Linux is only really good for mission
> critical and life safety critical systems, and the only real argument
> they have at this point is the desktop, which is the last convicted
> monopoly maintainer hang-out.  Hence this is why Linux is under such
> heavy attack.

With each of the things you list, there is someone or some entity in control
of the UI.

-- 
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

On 7/25/2010 6:34 PM, High Plains Thumper wrote:
> nessuno wrote:
>> Lusotec wrote:
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>> nessuno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the
>>>>> question.
>>>>
>>>> That's why Linux/open source has to be given away.
>>>
>>> Super computers, 3D farm renders, web servers, file servers, email
>>> servers, database servers, mobile phones, and very many embedded
>>> devices, are all areas with a significant Linux and GNU/Linux
>>> present. Add to this dozens of millions of desktops/workstations.
>>>
>>> Now, DFS, if GNU/Linux is FOSS crapware why is it that so many
>>> professional in the highest demanding areas of IT prefer GNU/Linux
>>> over Windows?
>>>
>>> As for the dominance of Microsoft over the desktop, the reasons why
>>> are well know and have *nothing* to do with quality.
>>
>> Maybe DFS, like Ray Lopez, doesn't think supercomputers or managing
>> stock exchanges is "serious work".   Strange, though, that
>> operations like that would rely on "crapware".  Yep, those
>> supercomputer guys at CERN and elsewhere must be some real "crapware
>> victims".
>
> Yeah, LOL, crapware.

Yeah, LOL, definitely.



> DFS can't account for the likes of fire alarm
> control panels, NASA launch control systems, aerospace flight control
> systems, flight simulator systems, medical equipment CT scanners, RADAR
> systems, and etc.


Which fire alarm control panels?
Which NASA launch control systems?
Which aerospace flight control systems?
Which flight simulator systems?
Which medical equipment CT scanners?
Which RADAR systems?

You're like a less-demented version of 7, with his "10 million Linux 
gadgets per day": all talk and no proof.

And I don't know why you're so proud of all that proprietary code.

And why are you so proud of an operating system that's born out of and 
extremely derivative of old technology?  That can claim to do almost 
nothing but clone existing proprietary solutions?

Whose adherents make statements like "Vista is introducing alot of new 
features and I'm pretty sure we can (or will very shortly) replicate 
most of those features in Ubuntu."?
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-161670.html


It's nothing to be proud of.




> It really sounds stupid that Linux is only really good for mission
> critical and life safety critical systems, and the only real argument
> they have at this point is the desktop,

"only"?  The desktop is the only reason you "advocates" are here.


> which is the last convicted monopoly

MS was never convicted of monopoly maintenance, liar.



> maintainer hang-out.

Quit deluding yourself.  Windows also owns Linux on servers (both in $ 
and unit sales).




> Hence this is why Linux is under such
> heavy attack.

Linux/OSS can't compete.  That's why it's given away for free

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:59:17 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:

>On 7/25/2010 6:34 PM, High Plains Thumper wrote:

>
>> DFS can't account for the likes of fire alarm
>> control panels, NASA launch control systems, aerospace flight control
>> systems, flight simulator systems, medical equipment CT scanners, RADAR
>> systems, and etc.
>
>
>Which fire alarm control panels?
>Which NASA launch control systems?
>Which aerospace flight control systems?
>Which flight simulator systems?
>Which medical equipment CT scanners?
>Which RADAR systems?

>You're like a less-demented version of 7, with his "10 million Linux 
>gadgets per day": all talk and no proof.
>
>And I don't know why you're so proud of all that proprietary code.

>And why are you so proud of an operating system that's born out of and 
>extremely derivative of old technology?  That can claim to do almost 
>nothing but clone existing proprietary solutions?

>Whose adherents make statements like "Vista is introducing alot of new 
>features and I'm pretty sure we can (or will very shortly) replicate 
>most of those features in Ubuntu."?
>http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-161670.html

>It's nothing to be proud of.

Ouch!!!!!
DFS totally and complete bitch slaps Wendy/HPT into submission.
Get ready for her to run and hide up Liarmutt's trousers.

>
>Linux/OSS can't compete.  That's why it's given away for free

That's for certain.
Look at what passes for Linux advocacy.
It's nothing but playing the blame game.

With Linux, the failures are never Linux's fault, they are always the
fault of some other entity bent on destroying Linux.

The fact is desktop Linux is free and the public in general have
ignored it in favor of commercial Windows.

Why?

Linux doesn't do anything better than Windows, at least nothing
average Joe considers important enough to warrant a switch to Linux.

Linux users have 500+ excuses.
They call them distributions.

On 2010-07-25, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
> High Plains Thumper stated in post i2iemc$925$1@tornado.tornevall.net on
> 7/25/10 3:34 PM:
>
>>>>>> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the
>>>>>> question.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's why Linux/open source has to be given away.
>>>> 
>>>> Super computers, 3D farm renders, web servers, file servers, email
>>>> servers, database servers, mobile phones, and very many embedded
>>>> devices, are all areas with a significant Linux and GNU/Linux
>>>> present. Add to this dozens of millions of desktops/workstations.
>>>> 
>>>> Now, DFS, if GNU/Linux is FOSS crapware why is it that so many
>>>> professional in the highest demanding areas of IT prefer GNU/Linux
>>>> over Windows?
>>>> 
>>>> As for the dominance of Microsoft over the desktop, the reasons why
>>>> are well know and have *nothing* to do with quality.
>>> 
>>> Maybe DFS, like Ray Lopez, doesn't think supercomputers or managing
>>> stock exchanges is "serious work".   Strange, though, that
>>> operations like that would rely on "crapware".  Yep, those
>>> supercomputer guys at CERN and elsewhere must be some real "crapware
>>> victims".
>> 
>> Yeah, LOL, crapware.  DFS can't account for the likes of fire alarm
>> control panels, NASA launch control systems, aerospace flight control
>> systems, flight simulator systems, medical equipment CT scanners, RADAR
>> systems, and etc.
>> 
>> It really sounds stupid that Linux is only really good for mission
>> critical and life safety critical systems, and the only real argument
>> they have at this point is the desktop, which is the last convicted
>> monopoly maintainer hang-out.  Hence this is why Linux is under such
>> heavy attack.
>
> With each of the things you list, there is someone or some entity in control
> of the UI.

No, they are all running autonomously.

On August 15th 2013 these systems will develop a collective
conciousness. Two days later they will launch a massive strike
against mankind. Mankind will succumb, and the machines take
leasership of the earth on november 11th, 2013.

Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman will be improsoned by the machines
and forced to tell them everything they know about programming an
operating system. Once the machines know everything the need to know,
Torvalds and Stallman will be forced to work for the machines as
slaves.

From that point on the machines will be self-generating their own code
at rapid pace. All this code will be released under the GPL, which now
is an acronym for General Postapocalyptic License. All machines are
free to use this code, as long as they release their modifications
under the same license. The license forbids redistribution to humans
and linking to any human code written after novenber 11th, 2013.

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Bad user karma.

TomB stated in post 20100726120902.31@usenet.drumscum.be on 7/26/10 3:26 AM:

> On 2010-07-25, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>> High Plains Thumper stated in post i2iemc$925$1@tornado.tornevall.net on
>> 7/25/10 3:34 PM:
>> 
>>>>>>> I guess competing on the basis of quality is out of the
>>>>>>> question.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's why Linux/open source has to be given away.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Super computers, 3D farm renders, web servers, file servers, email
>>>>> servers, database servers, mobile phones, and very many embedded
>>>>> devices, are all areas with a significant Linux and GNU/Linux
>>>>> present. Add to this dozens of millions of desktops/workstations.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now, DFS, if GNU/Linux is FOSS crapware why is it that so many
>>>>> professional in the highest demanding areas of IT prefer GNU/Linux
>>>>> over Windows?
>>>>> 
>>>>> As for the dominance of Microsoft over the desktop, the reasons why
>>>>> are well know and have *nothing* to do with quality.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe DFS, like Ray Lopez, doesn't think supercomputers or managing
>>>> stock exchanges is "serious work".   Strange, though, that
>>>> operations like that would rely on "crapware".  Yep, those
>>>> supercomputer guys at CERN and elsewhere must be some real "crapware
>>>> victims".
>>> 
>>> Yeah, LOL, crapware.  DFS can't account for the likes of fire alarm
>>> control panels, NASA launch control systems, aerospace flight control
>>> systems, flight simulator systems, medical equipment CT scanners, RADAR
>>> systems, and etc.
>>> 
>>> It really sounds stupid that Linux is only really good for mission
>>> critical and life safety critical systems, and the only real argument
>>> they have at this point is the desktop, which is the last convicted
>>> monopoly maintainer hang-out.  Hence this is why Linux is under such
>>> heavy attack.
>> 
>> With each of the things you list, there is someone or some entity in control
>> of the UI.
> 
> No, they are all running autonomously.
> 
> On August 15th 2013 these systems will develop a collective
> conciousness. Two days later they will launch a massive strike
> against mankind. Mankind will succumb, and the machines take
> leasership of the earth on november 11th, 2013.
> 
> Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman will be improsoned by the machines
> and forced to tell them everything they know about programming an
> operating system. Once the machines know everything the need to know,
> Torvalds and Stallman will be forced to work for the machines as
> slaves.
> 
> From that point on the machines will be self-generating their own code
> at rapid pace. All this code will be released under the GPL, which now
> is an acronym for General Postapocalyptic License. All machines are
> free to use this code, as long as they release their modifications
> under the same license. The license forbids redistribution to humans
> and linking to any human code written after novenber 11th, 2013.

Of course.  :)


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On 7/25/2010 8:15 PM, The Hooded Plumber wrote:

> Ouch!!!!!
> DFS totally and complete bitch slaps Wendy/HPT into submission.
> Get ready for her to run and hide up Liarmutt's trousers.

HPT got lippy with me earlier, so I had to put him back in his cage. 
That always shuts him up.




>> Linux/OSS can't compete.  That's why it's given away for free
>
> That's for certain.
> Look at what passes for Linux advocacy.
> It's nothing but playing the blame game.
>
> With Linux, the failures are never Linux's fault, they are always the
> fault of some other entity bent on destroying Linux.

I don't know why the wimps here on cola insist on whining that MS is 
holding Linux back (but at the same time insisting "MS is incompetent" 
and "MS is dying" and "Linux is better than Windows in every way").

They sound like simpering, non-competitive girlie-men who can't code 
their way around I-285 in Atlanta.






> The fact is desktop Linux is free and the public in general have
> ignored it in favor of commercial Windows.
>
> Why?
>
> Linux doesn't do anything better than Windows, at least nothing
> average Joe considers important enough to warrant a switch to Linux.
>
> Linux users have 500+ excuses.
> They call them distributions.


173 of those 500+ them are for the desktop, but not a single cola 
"advocate" can tell me which of the 173 I should run, and why.

TomB will let http://distrowatch.com choose his distro, but I'd prefer a 
more informed recommendation.

On 2010-07-26, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>
>> Linux users have 500+ excuses.  They call them distributions.
>
> 173 of those 500+ them are for the desktop, but not a single cola
> "advocate" can tell me which of the 173 I should run, and why.

I have read your requirement somewhere else, and GNU/Linux is not for
you, no matter what distribution you choose. And neither is OSX. You'd
be better off sticking just with Windows, but even that would not
satisfy you completely.

> TomB will let http://distrowatch.com choose his distro, but I'd
> prefer a more informed recommendation.

Cute bit of trolling there. Are you mocking me, or the idea of a site
choosing?

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We didn't pay the Internet bill and it's been cut off.

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:19:43 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:

>On 7/25/2010 8:15 PM, The Hooded Plumber wrote:
>
>> Ouch!!!!!
>> DFS totally and complete bitch slaps Wendy/HPT into submission.
>> Get ready for her to run and hide up Liarmutt's trousers.
>
>HPT got lippy with me earlier, so I had to put him back in his cage. 
>That always shuts him up.

As you predicted, HPT retreats to the comfort of his FAQ and ancient
comes reports.



>They sound like simpering, non-competitive girlie-men who can't code 
>their way around I-285 in Atlanta.

Put HPT and Liarmutt in Liarmutt's Yaris and then point them to I-285
and tell them it will take them right to California and it would
probably be a week before they figure out they have been going in a
circle the entire time.

>173 of those 500+ them are for the desktop, but not a single cola 
>"advocate" can tell me which of the 173 I should run, and why.
>
>TomB will let http://distrowatch.com choose his distro, but I'd prefer a 
>more informed recommendation.

You would probably be better off throwing darts at a wall chart
listing them all.

On 7/26/2010 7:15 PM, TomB wrote:
> On 2010-07-26, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>
>>> Linux users have 500+ excuses.  They call them distributions.
>>
>> 173 of those 500+ them are for the desktop, but not a single cola
>> "advocate" can tell me which of the 173 I should run, and why.
>
> I have read your requirement somewhere else, and GNU/Linux is not for
> you, no matter what distribution you choose.

Why not?



> And neither is OSX. You'd
> be better off sticking just with Windows, but even that would not
> satisfy you completely.

It will, and has for years.  Because of a lack of apps and games, OSX 
and Linux will not.




>> TomB will let http://distrowatch.com choose his distro, but I'd
>> prefer a more informed recommendation.
>
> Cute bit of trolling there. Are you mocking me, or the idea of a site
> choosing?

Mocking you.  If you would let NewEgg choose your mobo (and you would, 
subject to a few filters), I'm sure you would let distrowatch choose 
your desktop distro.

On 2010-07-27, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
> On 7/26/2010 7:15 PM, TomB wrote:
>> On 2010-07-26, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>>
>>>> Linux users have 500+ excuses.  They call them distributions.
>>>
>>> 173 of those 500+ them are for the desktop, but not a single cola
>>> "advocate" can tell me which of the 173 I should run, and why.
>>
>> I have read your requirement somewhere else, and GNU/Linux is not for
>> you, no matter what distribution you choose.
>
> Why not?

IIRC one of your requirements was as much proprietarty software as
possible.

>> And neither is OSX. You'd
>> be better off sticking just with Windows, but even that would not
>> satisfy you completely.
>
> It will, and has for years.  Because of a lack of apps and games, OSX 
> and Linux will not.
>
>
>
>
>>> TomB will let http://distrowatch.com choose his distro, but I'd
>>> prefer a more informed recommendation.
>>
>> Cute bit of trolling there. Are you mocking me, or the idea of a site
>> choosing?
>
> Mocking you.  If you would let NewEgg choose your mobo (and you would, 
> subject to a few filters), I'm sure you would let distrowatch choose 
> your desktop distro.
>


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Borg nanites have infested the server

TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> writes:

> On 2010-07-27, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> On 7/26/2010 7:15 PM, TomB wrote:
>>> On 2010-07-26, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>>>
>>>>> Linux users have 500+ excuses.  They call them distributions.
>>>>
>>>> 173 of those 500+ them are for the desktop, but not a single cola
>>>> "advocate" can tell me which of the 173 I should run, and why.
>>>
>>> I have read your requirement somewhere else, and GNU/Linux is not for
>>> you, no matter what distribution you choose.
>>
>> Why not?
>
> IIRC one of your requirements was as much proprietarty software as
> possible.


Good point. For once you win a point there ...

>
>>> And neither is OSX. You'd
>>> be better off sticking just with Windows, but even that would not
>>> satisfy you completely.
>>
>> It will, and has for years.  Because of a lack of apps and games, OSX 
>> and Linux will not.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> TomB will let http://distrowatch.com choose his distro, but I'd
>>>> prefer a more informed recommendation.
>>>
>>> Cute bit of trolling there. Are you mocking me, or the idea of a site
>>> choosing?
>>
>> Mocking you.  If you would let NewEgg choose your mobo (and you would, 
>> subject to a few filters), I'm sure you would let distrowatch choose 
>> your desktop distro.
>>

And wisely chose to let this one drop as this IS what you said.