Put a # symbol in front of the last line in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"

#options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N

and reboot.


#1271 at
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic+freeze&page=128



wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention music 
production)... some day.

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:

> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
> 
> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
> 
> and reboot.
> 
> 
> #1271 at
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic+freeze&page=128
> 
> 
> 
> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention music 
> production)... some day.

Yea.
I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to
figure out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to
get the session rolling.

These Linux amateurs have no clue.
None at all.


-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Kreplach Productions
1/21/2010 10:50:56 AM

On 2010-01-21, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>
> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N

Comment out an option that most likely is perfectly sane on most
implementations of hda intel. Makes perfect sense.

> and reboot.

No, do

# /etc/init.d/alsa-base restart

What's the deal with Ubuntu and rebooting?

-- 
She fits me like a flesh tuxedo
I want to sink her with my pink torpedo
	~ David St.-Hubbins

On 21 Jan 2010 18:06:17 GMT, TomB wrote:


> What's the deal with Ubuntu and rebooting?

It's unstable.
Read the forums.


-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Kreplach Productions
1/21/2010 1:08:34 PM

On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>> 
>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>> 
>> and reboot.
>> 
>> 
>> #1271 at
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic+freeze&page=128
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention music 
>> production)... some day.
>
> Yea.
> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to
> figure out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to
> get the session rolling.

    Let's see...

    You've got "etc" which is root storage location for system configuration.

    Then you've got "modprobe.d" which obviously deals with modules/drivers.

    Then you've got a file with the name of the most common sound driver layer.

    Compared to the Windows registry, this is probably downright user friendly.

>
> These Linux amateurs have no clue.
> None at all.

    

-- 
                                                                      |||
     In a free market, the herd should be irrelevant.                / | \

On 2010-01-21, TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 2010-01-21, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>
>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>
> Comment out an option that most likely is perfectly sane on most
> implementations of hda intel. Makes perfect sense.

....in a location you might find by yourself by poking through /etc with
a file manager or a bash terminal. This location is actually quite intuitive.
It requires some knowledge of the relevant jargon but it is at least still
somewhat self documenting.

>
>> and reboot.
>
> No, do
>
> # /etc/init.d/alsa-base restart
>
> What's the deal with Ubuntu and rebooting?
>


-- 
                                                                      |||
     In a free market, the herd should be irrelevant.                / | \

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:19:33 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:

> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>> 
>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>> 
>>> and reboot.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> #1271 at
>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic+freeze&page=128
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention music 
>>> production)... some day.
>>
>> Yea.
>> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to
>> figure out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to
>> get the session rolling.
> 
>     Let's see...
> 
>     You've got "etc" which is root storage location for system configuration.

You just lost the client.................

Like I said, you Linux nuts really have no clue.


-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Kreplach Productions
1/21/2010 2:35:33 PM

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:36:01 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:19:33 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> 
>> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>> 
>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>> 
>>>> and reboot.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> #1271 at
>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic
+freeze&page=128
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention
>>>> music production)... some day.
>>>
>>> Yea.
>>> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to figure
>>> out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to get the
>>> session rolling.
>> 
>>     Let's see...
>> 
>>     You've got "etc" which is root storage location for system
>>     configuration.
> 
> You just lost the client.................

Let's say that is true... why do you care?

> 
> Like I said, you Linux nuts really have no clue.

.... and, again, why do you care?

-- 
Rick

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:21:48 -0600, Rick wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:36:01 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:19:33 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>> 
>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>> 
>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> #1271 at
>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic
> +freeze&page=128
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention
>>>>> music production)... some day.
>>>>
>>>> Yea.
>>>> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to figure
>>>> out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to get the
>>>> session rolling.
>>> 
>>>     Let's see...
>>> 
>>>     You've got "etc" which is root storage location for system
>>>     configuration.
>> 
>> You just lost the client.................
> 
> Let's say that is true... why do you care?

Because that client is a paying client who will now take his
business elsewhere and the damage from word of mouth will hurt my
business even more in the long term.
 

>> 
>> Like I said, you Linux nuts really have no clue.
> 
> ... and, again, why do you care?

I don't.
It's a discussion.
I'm discussing.


-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Kreplach Productions
1/21/2010 5:41:21 PM

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:42:52 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:21:48 -0600, Rick wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:36:01 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:19:33 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> #1271 at
>>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic
>> +freeze&page=128
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention
>>>>>> music production)... some day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yea.
>>>>> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to
>>>>> figure out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to get
>>>>> the session rolling.
>>>> 
>>>>     Let's see...
>>>> 
>>>>     You've got "etc" which is root storage location for system
>>>>     configuration.
>>> 
>>> You just lost the client.................
>> 
>> Let's say that is true... why do you care?
> 
> Because that client is a paying client who will now take his business
> elsewhere and the damage from word of mouth will hurt my business even
> more in the long term.

How is someone else losing business going to hurt your business?

>  
>  
> 
>>> Like I said, you Linux nuts really have no clue.
>> 
>> ... and, again, why do you care?
> 
> I don't.

Above you said you do.

> It's a discussion.
> I'm discussing.

Why do you discuss things you don't care about?

-- 
Rick

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:49:07 -0600, Rick wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:42:52 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:21:48 -0600, Rick wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:36:01 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:19:33 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> #1271 at
>>>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic
>>> +freeze&page=128
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention
>>>>>>> music production)... some day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yea.
>>>>>> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to
>>>>>> figure out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to get
>>>>>> the session rolling.
>>>>> 
>>>>>     Let's see...
>>>>> 
>>>>>     You've got "etc" which is root storage location for system
>>>>>     configuration.
>>>> 
>>>> You just lost the client.................
>>> 
>>> Let's say that is true... why do you care?
>> 
>> Because that client is a paying client who will now take his business
>> elsewhere and the damage from word of mouth will hurt my business even
>> more in the long term.
> 
> How is someone else losing business going to hurt your business?
> 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>>> Like I said, you Linux nuts really have no clue.
>>> 
>>> ... and, again, why do you care?
>> 
>> I don't.
> 
> Above you said you do.
> 
>> It's a discussion.
>> I'm discussing.
> 
> Why do you discuss things you don't care about?

God you're thick.
It's a hypothetical.....

IOW  if that problem creeps up during a session, the above will
happen.

-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Kreplach Productions
1/21/2010 5:51:27 PM

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:52:17 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:49:07 -0600, Rick wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:42:52 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:21:48 -0600, Rick wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:36:01 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:19:33 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>>>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> #1271 at
>>>>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic
>>>> +freeze&page=128
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention
>>>>>>>> music production)... some day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yea.
>>>>>>> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to
>>>>>>> figure out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to
>>>>>>> get the session rolling.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     Let's see...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     You've got "etc" which is root storage location for system
>>>>>>     configuration.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You just lost the client.................
>>>> 
>>>> Let's say that is true... why do you care?
>>> 
>>> Because that client is a paying client who will now take his business
>>> elsewhere and the damage from word of mouth will hurt my business even
>>> more in the long term.
>> 
>> How is someone else losing business going to hurt your business?
>> 
>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>>> Like I said, you Linux nuts really have no clue.
>>>> 
>>>> ... and, again, why do you care?
>>> 
>>> I don't.
>> 
>> Above you said you do.
>> 
>>> It's a discussion.
>>> I'm discussing.
>> 
>> Why do you discuss things you don't care about?
> 
> God you're thick.
> It's a hypothetical.....
> 
> IOW  if that problem creeps up during a session, the above will happen.

Yes? So? No skin off your nose.

-- 
Rick

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:54:00 -0600, Rick wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:52:17 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:49:07 -0600, Rick wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:42:52 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:21:48 -0600, Rick wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:36:01 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:19:33 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>>>>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #1271 at
>>>>>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic
>>>>> +freeze&page=128
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention
>>>>>>>>> music production)... some day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yea.
>>>>>>>> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to
>>>>>>>> figure out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to
>>>>>>>> get the session rolling.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     Let's see...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     You've got "etc" which is root storage location for system
>>>>>>>     configuration.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You just lost the client.................
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let's say that is true... why do you care?
>>>> 
>>>> Because that client is a paying client who will now take his business
>>>> elsewhere and the damage from word of mouth will hurt my business even
>>>> more in the long term.
>>> 
>>> How is someone else losing business going to hurt your business?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>>> Like I said, you Linux nuts really have no clue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ... and, again, why do you care?
>>>> 
>>>> I don't.
>>> 
>>> Above you said you do.
>>> 
>>>> It's a discussion.
>>>> I'm discussing.
>>> 
>>> Why do you discuss things you don't care about?
>> 
>> God you're thick.
>> It's a hypothetical.....
>> 
>> IOW  if that problem creeps up during a session, the above will happen.
> 
> Yes? So? No skin off your nose.

Sigh...stop wasting my time..
Back in the bozo bin with you.


-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Kreplach Productions
1/21/2010 5:55:30 PM

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:56:05 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:54:00 -0600, Rick wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:52:17 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:49:07 -0600, Rick wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:42:52 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:21:48 -0600, Rick wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:36:01 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:19:33 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>>>>>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> #1271 at
>>>>>>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
t=1305924&highlight=Karmic
>>>>>> +freeze&page=128
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to
>>>>>>>>>> mention music production)... some day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yea.
>>>>>>>>> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to
>>>>>>>>> figure out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to
>>>>>>>>> get the session rolling.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     Let's see...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     You've got "etc" which is root storage location for system
>>>>>>>>     configuration.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You just lost the client.................
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Let's say that is true... why do you care?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Because that client is a paying client who will now take his
>>>>> business elsewhere and the damage from word of mouth will hurt my
>>>>> business even more in the long term.
>>>> 
>>>> How is someone else losing business going to hurt your business?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Like I said, you Linux nuts really have no clue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ... and, again, why do you care?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't.
>>>> 
>>>> Above you said you do.
>>>> 
>>>>> It's a discussion.
>>>>> I'm discussing.
>>>> 
>>>> Why do you discuss things you don't care about?
>>> 
>>> God you're thick.
>>> It's a hypothetical.....
>>> 
>>> IOW  if that problem creeps up during a session, the above will
>>> happen.
>> 
>> Yes? So? No skin off your nose.
> 
> Sigh...stop wasting my time..
> Back in the bozo bin with you.

ahhhhh.. aha hHAh ahahHHAh aHAH ahaha HHA ha...

flatfish just can't take it... it has no reason to be here, and runs away 
when that is pointed out.

-- 
Rick

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:21:23 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:

> On 2010-01-21, TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2010-01-21, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>
>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>
>> Comment out an option that most likely is perfectly sane on most
>> implementations of hda intel. Makes perfect sense.
> 
> ...in a location you might find by yourself by poking through /etc with
> a file manager or a bash terminal. This location is actually quite intuitive.
> It requires some knowledge of the relevant jargon but it is at least still
> somewhat self documenting.
> 
>>
>>> and reboot.
>>
>> No, do
>>
>> # /etc/init.d/alsa-base restart
>>
>> What's the deal with Ubuntu and rebooting?

<Shrug> Dunno, but it's not necessary. Maybe the OP just decided to do it.

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:33:21 +0000, William Poaster wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:21:23 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> 
>> On 2010-01-21, TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2010-01-21, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>
>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>
>>> Comment out an option that most likely is perfectly sane on most
>>> implementations of hda intel. Makes perfect sense.
>> 
>> ...in a location you might find by yourself by poking through /etc with
>> a file manager or a bash terminal. This location is actually quite
>> intuitive. It requires some knowledge of the relevant jargon but it is
>> at least still somewhat self documenting.
>> 
>> 
>>>> and reboot.
>>>
>>> No, do
>>>
>>> # /etc/init.d/alsa-base restart
>>>
>>> What's the deal with Ubuntu and rebooting?
> 
> <Shrug> Dunno, but it's not necessary. Maybe the OP just decided to do
> it.

Maybe it's me, but I've seen a lot of restarts suggested after Ubuntu 
updates.

-- 
Rick

Rick wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:33:21 +0000, William Poaster wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:21:23 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2010-01-21, TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2010-01-21, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>>
>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>
>>>> Comment out an option that most likely is perfectly sane on most
>>>> implementations of hda intel. Makes perfect sense.
>>> 
>>> ...in a location you might find by yourself by poking through /etc
>>> with a file manager or a bash terminal. This location is actually
>>> quite intuitive. It requires some knowledge of the relevant jargon but
>>> it is at least still somewhat self documenting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>
>>>> No, do
>>>>
>>>> # /etc/init.d/alsa-base restart
>>>>
>>>> What's the deal with Ubuntu and rebooting?
>> 
>> <Shrug> Dunno, but it's not necessary. Maybe the OP just decided to do
>> it.
> 
> Maybe it's me, but I've seen a lot of restarts suggested after Ubuntu
> updates.
> 

Maybe that is part of Ubuntu's primary audience: windows converts
-- 
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend: and inside a dog,
it's too dark to read."                -- Groucho Marx

Rick wrote:

> Why do you discuss things you don't care about?

Same reason we all do, (p)Rick: to smack down the lies of cola idiots.

On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:55:57 +0100, Peter K�hlmann wrote:

> Rick wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:33:21 +0000, William Poaster wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:21:23 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2010-01-21, TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2010-01-21, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>>
>>>>> Comment out an option that most likely is perfectly sane on most
>>>>> implementations of hda intel. Makes perfect sense.
>>>> 
>>>> ...in a location you might find by yourself by poking through /etc
>>>> with a file manager or a bash terminal. This location is actually
>>>> quite intuitive. It requires some knowledge of the relevant jargon but
>>>> it is at least still somewhat self documenting.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, do
>>>>>
>>>>> # /etc/init.d/alsa-base restart
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the deal with Ubuntu and rebooting?
>>> 
>>> <Shrug> Dunno, but it's not necessary. Maybe the OP just decided to do
>>> it.
>> 
>> Maybe it's me, but I've seen a lot of restarts suggested after Ubuntu
>> updates.
>> 
> 
> Maybe that is part of Ubuntu's primary audience: windows converts

That depends upon whether it's the user rebooting Ubuntu on
purpose or it's Ubuntu rebooting itself due to instability
problems.


-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Kreplach Productions
1/21/2010 7:00:55 PM

On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:55:57 +0100, Peter K�hlmann wrote:

> Rick wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:33:21 +0000, William Poaster wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:21:23 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2010-01-21, TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2010-01-21, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>>
>>>>> Comment out an option that most likely is perfectly sane on most
>>>>> implementations of hda intel. Makes perfect sense.
>>>> 
>>>> ...in a location you might find by yourself by poking through /etc
>>>> with a file manager or a bash terminal. This location is actually
>>>> quite intuitive. It requires some knowledge of the relevant jargon but
>>>> it is at least still somewhat self documenting.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, do
>>>>>
>>>>> # /etc/init.d/alsa-base restart
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the deal with Ubuntu and rebooting?
>>> 
>>> <Shrug> Dunno, but it's not necessary. Maybe the OP just decided to do
>>> it.
>> 
>> Maybe it's me, but I've seen a lot of restarts suggested after Ubuntu
>> updates.
>> 
> 
> Maybe that is part of Ubuntu's primary audience: windows converts

Quite possibly, but as I said, it isn't necessary. For example, the
"Hardware Drivers" app tells you to reboot after its installed the nVIDIA
drivers. All I do is log out, 'restart x-server' from the menu & log back
in. 

-- 
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NVidia drivers using a set version of the compiler, for example, when
changing kernels.
Hadron Quark: Message-ID: <c9rks4-gc7.ln1@news.individual.net>  

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>
>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>
>> and reboot.
>>
>>
>> #1271 at
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic+freeze&page=128
>>
>>
>>
>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention
>> music production)... some day.
>
> Yea.
> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to
> figure out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to
> get the session rolling.
>
> These Linux amateurs have no clue.
> None at all.

JED and Ballard do.  They know everything.

On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:55:57 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> Rick wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:33:21 +0000, William Poaster wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:21:23 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2010-01-21, TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2010-01-21, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>>
>>>>> Comment out an option that most likely is perfectly sane on most
>>>>> implementations of hda intel. Makes perfect sense.
>>>> 
>>>> ...in a location you might find by yourself by poking through /etc
>>>> with a file manager or a bash terminal. This location is actually
>>>> quite intuitive. It requires some knowledge of the relevant jargon
>>>> but it is at least still somewhat self documenting.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, do
>>>>>
>>>>> # /etc/init.d/alsa-base restart
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the deal with Ubuntu and rebooting?
>>> 
>>> <Shrug> Dunno, but it's not necessary. Maybe the OP just decided to do
>>> it.
>> 
>> Maybe it's me, but I've seen a lot of restarts suggested after Ubuntu
>> updates.
>> 
>> 
> Maybe that is part of Ubuntu's primary audience: windows converts

.... could be ...

:-)

-- 
Rick

Peter K�hlmann wrote:

> Maybe that is part of Ubuntu's primary audience: windows converts


Virtually all Linux users are Windows converts.


50% of all Linux sheeple run Ubuntu
http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:17:45 -0500, DFS wrote:

> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> 
>> Maybe that is part of Ubuntu's primary audience: windows converts
> 
> 
> Virtually all Linux users are Windows converts.

... did you expect them to be PDP converts?

> 
> 
> 50% of all Linux sheeple run Ubuntu
> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/
SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm


What % of the -sheeple- run Windows 7, Vista or XP?


-- 
Rick

William Poaster wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:55:57 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> 
>> Rick wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:33:21 +0000, William Poaster wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:21:23 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2010-01-21, TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2010-01-21, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comment out an option that most likely is perfectly sane on most
>>>>>> implementations of hda intel. Makes perfect sense.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ...in a location you might find by yourself by poking through /etc
>>>>> with a file manager or a bash terminal. This location is actually
>>>>> quite intuitive. It requires some knowledge of the relevant jargon
>>>>> but it is at least still somewhat self documenting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, do
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # /etc/init.d/alsa-base restart
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the deal with Ubuntu and rebooting?
>>>> 
>>>> <Shrug> Dunno, but it's not necessary. Maybe the OP just decided to
>>>> do it.
>>> 
>>> Maybe it's me, but I've seen a lot of restarts suggested after Ubuntu
>>> updates.
>>> 
>> 
>> Maybe that is part of Ubuntu's primary audience: windows converts
> 
> Quite possibly, but as I said, it isn't necessary. For example, the
> "Hardware Drivers" app tells you to reboot after its installed the
> nVIDIA drivers. All I do is log out, 'restart x-server' from the menu &
> log back in.
> 

Certainly, because that would be the way to do it.
Nonetheless, people coming from windows would feel the need to reboot 
because "something has changed"
-- 
Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. The answer is NO

DFS wrote:

> Peter K�hlmann wrote:
> 
>> Maybe that is part of Ubuntu's primary audience: windows converts
> 
> 
> Virtually all Linux users are Windows converts.
> 

Maybe. I am not. I am a OS/2 "convert"

> 50% of all Linux sheeple run Ubuntu

Whereas 100% of all windows idiots run windows

-- 
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice which can be equally well
explained by stupidity

On 2010-01-21, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
> Rick wrote:
>
>> Why do you discuss things you don't care about?
>
> Same reason we all do, (p)Rick: to smack down the lies of cola idiots.

So you don't care about Linux nuts having no clue, but you *do*
discuss it to smack down their lies? So you do care after all?

-- 
Human beings are the only creatures that allow their
children to come back home.
	~ Bill Cosby

TomB wrote:
> On 2010-01-21, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> Rick wrote:
>>
>>> Why do you discuss things you don't care about?
>>
>> Same reason we all do, (p)Rick: to smack down the lies of cola
>> idiots.
>
> So you don't care about Linux nuts having no clue, but you *do*
> discuss it to smack down their lies? So you do care after all?


Don't try to get cute here, TomB. 

Peter K�hlmann wrote:
> DFS wrote:
>
>> Peter K?hlmann wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe that is part of Ubuntu's primary audience: windows converts
>>
>>
>> Virtually all Linux users are Windows converts.
>>
>
> Maybe. I am not. I am a OS/2 "convert"

You're not a convert at all.  You're a Windows user and developer.



>> 50% of all Linux sheeple run Ubuntu
>
> Whereas 100% of all windows idiots run windows

At least they don't claim "Linux is about choice" then 1/2 of them run to 
Mother Ubuntu.

On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:19:33 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
>> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>> 
>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>> 
>>>> and reboot.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> #1271 at
>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic+freeze&page=128
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention music 
>>>> production)... some day.
>>>
>>> Yea.
>>> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to
>>> figure out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to
>>> get the session rolling.
>> 
>>     Let's see...
>> 
>>     You've got "etc" which is root storage location for system configuration.
>
> You just lost the client.................

    ...no worse than a registry tweak would have.

    Or an errant dialog box in the driver installer even.

>
> Like I said, you Linux nuts really have no clue.

    That would be more impressive if I weren't constantly rescuing Windows
users from your notion of "user friendly".

-- 
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                                                                   / | \
That way leads to lawyers and business megacorps and credit cards!

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:59:38 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:

> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:19:33 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>
>>> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>> 
>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>> 
>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> #1271 at
>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic+freeze&page=128
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention music 
>>>>> production)... some day.
>>>>
>>>> Yea.
>>>> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to
>>>> figure out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to
>>>> get the session rolling.
>>> 
>>>     Let's see...
>>> 
>>>     You've got "etc" which is root storage location for system configuration.
>>
>> You just lost the client.................
> 
>     ...no worse than a registry tweak would have.

The problem is that doesn't happen......
Install the programs, in my case Nuendo, and it works.
No mucking with sound systems.

>     Or an errant dialog box in the driver installer even.

Only a complete idiot would be installing a driver with a client
waiting in the A room.


 
>>
>> Like I said, you Linux nuts really have no clue.
> 
>     That would be more impressive if I weren't constantly rescuing Windows
> users from your notion of "user friendly".

Users can be idiots.
I'm talking specifics here, not generalities, and Linux audio is
awful.


-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Kreplach Productions
1/21/2010 8:09:59 PM

Rick stated in post K4mdnaPkMNnhTsXWnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@supernews.com on
1/21/10 3:21 PM:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:36:01 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:19:33 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in
>>>>> "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>> 
>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>> 
>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> #1271 at
>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic
> +freeze&page=128
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention
>>>>> music production)... some day.
>>>> 
>>>> Yea.
>>>> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to figure
>>>> out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to get the
>>>> session rolling.
>>> 
>>>     Let's see...
>>> 
>>>     You've got "etc" which is root storage location for system
>>>     configuration.
>> 
>> You just lost the client.................
> 
> Let's say that is true... why do you care?
> 
>> 
>> Like I said, you Linux nuts really have no clue.
> 
> ... and, again, why do you care?
> 
Are you against people caring?


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Rick stated in post K4mdndjkMNkHf8XWnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@supernews.com on
1/21/10 4:26 PM:

>>>> IOW  if that problem creeps up during a session, the above will
>>>> happen.
>>> 
>>> Yes? So? No skin off your nose.
>> 
>> Sigh...stop wasting my time..
>> Back in the bozo bin with you.
> 
> ahhhhh.. aha hHAh ahahHHAh aHAH ahaha HHA ha...
> 
> flatfish just can't take it... it has no reason to be here, and runs away
> when that is pointed out.

You are the one who runs away all the time saying "get the last word"...


-- 
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On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:40:42 -0700, Snit wrote:

> Rick stated in post K4mdndjkMNkHf8XWnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@supernews.com on
> 1/21/10 4:26 PM:
> 
>>>>> IOW  if that problem creeps up during a session, the above will
>>>>> happen.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes? So? No skin off your nose.
>>> 
>>> Sigh...stop wasting my time..
>>> Back in the bozo bin with you.
>> 
>> ahhhhh.. aha hHAh ahahHHAh aHAH ahaha HHA ha...
>> 
>> flatfish just can't take it... it has no reason to be here, and runs away
>> when that is pointed out.
> 
> You are the one who runs away all the time saying "get the last word"...

Exactly...
I stated my point which was, what happens when you have to start
screwing around with Linux drivers during a session?

Answer: The client leaves and you lose money.

Of course Rick starts playing semantic games when he knows full
well what I meant.

It's like "we will all (people living in Boston) die if they drop
a nuke on Boston".

He will reply " has it happened to you?" 
and so forth....

He's a time wasting idiot and I don't know how he escaped from my
bozo bin, but he is back in.

-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Kreplach Productions
1/21/2010 8:48:36 PM

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:51:13 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:40:42 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> Rick stated in post K4mdndjkMNkHf8XWnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@supernews.com on
>> 1/21/10 4:26 PM:
>> 
>>>>>> IOW  if that problem creeps up during a session, the above will
>>>>>> happen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes? So? No skin off your nose.
>>>> 
>>>> Sigh...stop wasting my time..
>>>> Back in the bozo bin with you.
>>> 
>>> ahhhhh.. aha hHAh ahahHHAh aHAH ahaha HHA ha...
>>> 
>>> flatfish just can't take it... it has no reason to be here, and runs
>>> away when that is pointed out.
>> 
>> You are the one who runs away all the time saying "get the last
>> word"...
> 
> Exactly...
> I stated my point which was, what happens when you have to start
> screwing around with Linux drivers during a session?
> 
> Answer: The client leaves and you lose money.
> 
> Of course Rick starts playing semantic games when he knows full well
> what I meant.
> 
I didn't play any semantic games at all. I asked you a question... why do 
you care?
(snip)
-- 
Rick

Rick stated in post 6ZKdnYui-YstlMTWnZ2dnUVZ_tdi4p2d@supernews.com on
1/21/10 7:13 PM:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:51:13 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:40:42 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> Rick stated in post K4mdndjkMNkHf8XWnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@supernews.com on
>>> 1/21/10 4:26 PM:
>>> 
>>>>>>> IOW  if that problem creeps up during a session, the above will
>>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes? So? No skin off your nose.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sigh...stop wasting my time..
>>>>> Back in the bozo bin with you.
>>>> 
>>>> ahhhhh.. aha hHAh ahahHHAh aHAH ahaha HHA ha...
>>>> 
>>>> flatfish just can't take it... it has no reason to be here, and runs
>>>> away when that is pointed out.
>>> 
>>> You are the one who runs away all the time saying "get the last
>>> word"...
>> 
>> Exactly...
>> I stated my point which was, what happens when you have to start
>> screwing around with Linux drivers during a session?
>> 
>> Answer: The client leaves and you lose money.
>> 
>> Of course Rick starts playing semantic games when he knows full well
>> what I meant.
>> 
> I didn't play any semantic games at all. I asked you a question... why do
> you care?
> (snip)

So you were not just feigning ignorance - you really did not know what he
meant.  OK.


-- 
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Moshe Goldfarb stated in post b808hnwofd1f.mkhbrs5ruyg4$.dlg@40tude.net on
1/21/10 6:51 PM:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:40:42 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> Rick stated in post K4mdndjkMNkHf8XWnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@supernews.com on
>> 1/21/10 4:26 PM:
>> 
>>>>>> IOW  if that problem creeps up during a session, the above will
>>>>>> happen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes? So? No skin off your nose.
>>>> 
>>>> Sigh...stop wasting my time..
>>>> Back in the bozo bin with you.
>>> 
>>> ahhhhh.. aha hHAh ahahHHAh aHAH ahaha HHA ha...
>>> 
>>> flatfish just can't take it... it has no reason to be here, and runs away
>>> when that is pointed out.
>> 
>> You are the one who runs away all the time saying "get the last word"...
> 
> Exactly...
> I stated my point which was, what happens when you have to start
> screwing around with Linux drivers during a session?
> 
> Answer: The client leaves and you lose money.
> 
> Of course Rick starts playing semantic games when he knows full
> well what I meant.
> 
> It's like "we will all (people living in Boston) die if they drop
> a nuke on Boston".
> 
> He will reply " has it happened to you?"
> and so forth....
> 
> He's a time wasting idiot and I don't know how he escaped from my
> bozo bin, but he is back in.

If Rick has valuable ideas, he is very, very poor at expressing them.  Some
people are just poor with the written word though... maybe he is a lot
smarter than he presents himself.


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On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:00:46 -0700, Snit wrote:

> Moshe Goldfarb stated in post b808hnwofd1f.mkhbrs5ruyg4$.dlg@40tude.net on
> 1/21/10 6:51 PM:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:40:42 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> Rick stated in post K4mdndjkMNkHf8XWnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@supernews.com on
>>> 1/21/10 4:26 PM:
>>> 
>>>>>>> IOW  if that problem creeps up during a session, the above will
>>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes? So? No skin off your nose.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sigh...stop wasting my time..
>>>>> Back in the bozo bin with you.
>>>> 
>>>> ahhhhh.. aha hHAh ahahHHAh aHAH ahaha HHA ha...
>>>> 
>>>> flatfish just can't take it... it has no reason to be here, and runs away
>>>> when that is pointed out.
>>> 
>>> You are the one who runs away all the time saying "get the last word"...
>> 
>> Exactly...
>> I stated my point which was, what happens when you have to start
>> screwing around with Linux drivers during a session?
>> 
>> Answer: The client leaves and you lose money.
>> 
>> Of course Rick starts playing semantic games when he knows full
>> well what I meant.
>> 
>> It's like "we will all (people living in Boston) die if they drop
>> a nuke on Boston".
>> 
>> He will reply " has it happened to you?"
>> and so forth....
>> 
>> He's a time wasting idiot and I don't know how he escaped from my
>> bozo bin, but he is back in.
> 
> If Rick has valuable ideas, he is very, very poor at expressing them.  Some
> people are just poor with the written word though... maybe he is a lot
> smarter than he presents himself.

Rick is a time wasting game player.
Others get sucked into his web.
I won't waste my time.

I expressed exactly what I meant and he knows this.
He chooses to bob and weave.

I won't play his game.

-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Kreplach Productions
1/21/2010 10:04:02 PM

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:59:22 -0700, Snit wrote:

> Rick stated in post 6ZKdnYui-YstlMTWnZ2dnUVZ_tdi4p2d@supernews.com on
> 1/21/10 7:13 PM:
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:51:13 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:40:42 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Rick stated in post K4mdndjkMNkHf8XWnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@supernews.com on
>>>> 1/21/10 4:26 PM:
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> IOW  if that problem creeps up during a session, the above will
>>>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes? So? No skin off your nose.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sigh...stop wasting my time..
>>>>>> Back in the bozo bin with you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ahhhhh.. aha hHAh ahahHHAh aHAH ahaha HHA ha...
>>>>> 
>>>>> flatfish just can't take it... it has no reason to be here, and runs
>>>>> away when that is pointed out.
>>>> 
>>>> You are the one who runs away all the time saying "get the last
>>>> word"...
>>> 
>>> Exactly...
>>> I stated my point which was, what happens when you have to start
>>> screwing around with Linux drivers during a session?
>>> 
>>> Answer: The client leaves and you lose money.
>>> 
>>> Of course Rick starts playing semantic games when he knows full well
>>> what I meant.
>>> 
>> I didn't play any semantic games at all. I asked you a question... why
>> do you care?
>> (snip)
> 
> So you were not just feigning ignorance - you really did not know what
> he meant.  OK.

You sure beg for my attention a lot.



-- 
Rick

Rick stated in post 6ZKdnYWi-YtXvMTWnZ2dnUVZ_teqnZ2d@supernews.com on
1/21/10 8:55 PM:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:59:22 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> Rick stated in post 6ZKdnYui-YstlMTWnZ2dnUVZ_tdi4p2d@supernews.com on
>> 1/21/10 7:13 PM:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:51:13 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:40:42 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Rick stated in post K4mdndjkMNkHf8XWnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@supernews.com on
>>>>> 1/21/10 4:26 PM:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> IOW  if that problem creeps up during a session, the above will
>>>>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes? So? No skin off your nose.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sigh...stop wasting my time..
>>>>>>> Back in the bozo bin with you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ahhhhh.. aha hHAh ahahHHAh aHAH ahaha HHA ha...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> flatfish just can't take it... it has no reason to be here, and runs
>>>>>> away when that is pointed out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You are the one who runs away all the time saying "get the last
>>>>> word"...
>>>> 
>>>> Exactly...
>>>> I stated my point which was, what happens when you have to start
>>>> screwing around with Linux drivers during a session?
>>>> 
>>>> Answer: The client leaves and you lose money.
>>>> 
>>>> Of course Rick starts playing semantic games when he knows full well
>>>> what I meant.
>>>> 
>>> I didn't play any semantic games at all. I asked you a question... why
>>> do you care?
>>> (snip)
>> 
>> So you were not just feigning ignorance - you really did not know what
>> he meant.  OK.
> 
> You sure beg for my attention a lot.
> 
> 
Poor Rick... does not want people to talk about his silly games.


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Rick pulled this Usenet boner:

> Maybe it's me, but I've seen a lot of restarts suggested after Ubuntu 
> updates.

That doesn't happen with raw Debian.  It will even prompt you to let it
restart services for which dependencies are loaded.

-- 
You're a card which will have to be dealt with.

Peter K??hlmann pulled this Usenet boner:

> William Poaster wrote:
>> 
>> Quite possibly, but as I said, it isn't necessary. For example, the
>> "Hardware Drivers" app tells you to reboot after its installed the
>> nVIDIA drivers. All I do is log out, 'restart x-server' from the menu &
>> log back in.
>
> Certainly, because that would be the way to do it.
> Nonetheless, people coming from windows would feel the need to reboot 
> because "something has changed"

Same thing with the boot splash screens.  I hate not being able to see that
the boot is progressing fine, but some may be comforted by the throbber.

Take comfort in the throbber.

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Sometimes I wonder if I'm in my right mind.  Then it passes off and I'm
as intelligent as ever.
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Rick pulled this Usenet boner:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:17:45 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> Peter K??hlmann wrote:
>> 
>>> Maybe that is part of Ubuntu's primary audience: windows converts
>> 
>> 
>> Virtually all Linux users are Windows converts.
>
> .. did you expect them to be PDP converts?

DFS is a real Einstein, ain't he?

Although I'm sure there are major numbers of Linux converts from the DOS and
UNIXen crowd as well.

> What % of the -sheeple- run Windows 7, Vista or XP?

Compare to all of those Windows, to me, Linux is a breath of fresh air.

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A:	Diyathinkhesaurus.
Q:	What do you call a blind pre-historic animal with a dog?
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On 2010-01-22, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> wrote:
> Peter K??hlmann pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> William Poaster wrote:
>>> 
>>> Quite possibly, but as I said, it isn't necessary. For example, the
>>> "Hardware Drivers" app tells you to reboot after its installed the
>>> nVIDIA drivers. All I do is log out, 'restart x-server' from the menu &
>>> log back in.
>>
>> Certainly, because that would be the way to do it.
>> Nonetheless, people coming from windows would feel the need to reboot 
>> because "something has changed"
>
> Same thing with the boot splash screens.  I hate not being able to see that
> the boot is progressing fine, but some may be comforted by the throbber.
>
> Take comfort in the throbber.

I have gentoo boot splash screens and when there's a problem the system
switches to the verbose output so that you can see what's gone awry.

Boot splash is elegant. I suppose it isn't really that important or
noticeable on a linux OS that is so stable and doesn't require reboots
except for kernel updates.

-- 
Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>Rick pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:17:45 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> Peter K??hlmann wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Maybe that is part of Ubuntu's primary audience: windows converts
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Virtually all Linux users are Windows converts.
>>
>> .. did you expect them to be PDP converts?
>
>DFS is a real Einstein, ain't he?
>
>Although I'm sure there are major numbers of Linux converts from the DOS and
>UNIXen crowd as well.
>
>> What % of the -sheeple- run Windows 7, Vista or XP?
>
>Compare to all of those Windows, to me, Linux is a breath of fresh air.

Maybe if Windwoes wasn't so crappy, people wouldn't convert.  After
all, there's certain advantages to being part of the herd...

On 2010-01-22, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:59:38 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
>> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:19:33 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2010-01-21, Moshe Goldfarb <goldee.loxnbagels@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:42:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Put a # symbol in front of the last line in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> #options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and reboot.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> #1271 at
>>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic+freeze&page=128
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> wow!  Linux hobbyware will surely rule the world (not to mention music 
>>>>>> production)... some day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yea.
>>>>> I can see the talent starting to steam as the engineer tries to
>>>>> figure out what Linux config file he needs to alter in order to
>>>>> get the session rolling.
>>>> 
>>>>     Let's see...
>>>> 
>>>>     You've got "etc" which is root storage location for system configuration.
>>>
>>> You just lost the client.................
>> 
>>     ...no worse than a registry tweak would have.
>
> The problem is that doesn't happen......

     Yes it does.

     You can spread that "Windows successfully cloned the Macintosh" nonsense
propaganda elsewhere. Around here we know better.

> Install the programs, in my case Nuendo, and it works.
> No mucking with sound systems.

     ...assuming it's working to begin with.

     OTOH, PCs come from the factory preinstalled like Macs.

>
>>     Or an errant dialog box in the driver installer even.
>
> Only a complete idiot would be installing a driver with a client
> waiting in the A room.

    Only a moron would think you have a compelling argument there.

>>>
>>> Like I said, you Linux nuts really have no clue.
>> 
>>     That would be more impressive if I weren't constantly rescuing Windows
>> users from your notion of "user friendly".
>
> Users can be idiots.
> I'm talking specifics here, not generalities, and Linux audio is
> awful.

    No it isn't.

    It certainly isn't so for the vast majority of Windows or Mac using types.

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On 2010-01-22, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
> Rick pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> Maybe it's me, but I've seen a lot of restarts suggested after Ubuntu 
>> updates.
>
> That doesn't happen with raw Debian.  It will even prompt you to let it
> restart services for which dependencies are loaded.

Debian is sensible. Debian rocks!

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