http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2369160,00.asp

<copied>

Microsoft's new browser is faster, trimmer, more compliant with HTML5�a 
major improvement over its predecessor. It also brings some unique 
capabilities like tab-pinning and hardware acceleration, but only 
Windows 7 and Vista users need apply

<end copy>

I downloaded FF4 to my Vista machine using IE9, a backup to IE9 and 
watched IE9 do a scan of the file while downloading the file -- nice.

On 03/27/2011 07:47 AM, Big Steel wrote:
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2369160,00.asp
> 
> <copied>
> 
> Microsoft's new browser is faster, trimmer, more compliant with HTML5�a
> major improvement over its predecessor. It also brings some unique
> capabilities like tab-pinning and hardware acceleration, but only
> Windows 7 and Vista users need apply
> 
> <end copy>
> 
> I downloaded FF4 to my Vista machine using IE9, a backup to IE9 and
> watched IE9 do a scan of the file while downloading the file -- nice.

I am very interested to check out 9 from a standpoint of seeing what
Microsoft has done to try and stay in the game.  A few things from that
review stand out to me though.....

"make sites like apps in Windows 7." - What, like Prism does??? A little
late to party if thats the case.  The statement though as a fudgy
vagueness that we see when Microsoft features are being described so
I'll reserve judgement on what that actually means.

" Improved standards support." - mmm yes. I'll reserve view on that, but
Im not liking the sound of only "improved"....we'll see.

"a major improvement over its predecessor." - Really an achievement? I
would hope it is although many have not yet come of IE6 so I'm wondering
which predecessor is being talked about here.

"Only works in Windows 7 and Vista." - Well of course.  Microsoft is
desperate that you buy buy buy, more, more. more theres no money for
them with XP and after they spent so much marketing Vista and 7 they
will make damn sure they are not out of pocket....people better be
quick, the MVP's are now on about 8.

But finally:

"Still some occasional site incompatibilities."

And even as an ex-Microsoft home user for many years....I remember with
a shudder, the word "incompatibilities" all too well.

"When it comes to supporting new Web standards, IE9 is on the right track."

It's 2011... on the "right track" that for me is not a ringing
endorsement nor does it cut it.. This is Microsoft here, not some mom
and pop repair shop in the suburbs.

But hey, we will see.

Microsoft soon removed the paid for Tweet though didn't they?  A PR
stunt backfiring? maybe.  Actions to make up for another lacking product
in the face of tough competition? - Very likely in my view.

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Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.

On 3/27/2011 3:36 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.

You are a home user idiot. You don't count.

On 3/27/2011 3:25 AM, Goblin wrote:
> On 03/27/2011 07:47 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2369160,00.asp
>>
>> <copied>
>>
>> Microsoft's new browser is faster, trimmer, more compliant with HTML5�a
>> major improvement over its predecessor. It also brings some unique
>> capabilities like tab-pinning and hardware acceleration, but only
>> Windows 7 and Vista users need apply
>>
>> <end copy>
>>
>> I downloaded FF4 to my Vista machine using IE9, a backup to IE9 and
>> watched IE9 do a scan of the file while downloading the file -- nice.
>
> I am very interested to check out 9 from a standpoint of seeing what
> Microsoft has done to try and stay in the game.  A few things from that
> review stand out to me though.....
>
> "make sites like apps in Windows 7." - What, like Prism does??? A little
> late to party if thats the case.  The statement though as a fudgy
> vagueness that we see when Microsoft features are being described so
> I'll reserve judgement on what that actually means.

What? Make a site work with .Net effectively, since .NET is over taking 
COM based solution on the Windows O/S more and more like Win 7. I have 
no problem with that, since I am a .NET programmer.
>
> " Improved standards support." - mmm yes. I'll reserve view on that, but
> Im not liking the sound of only "improved"....we'll see.
>
> "a major improvement over its predecessor." - Really an achievement? I
> would hope it is although many have not yet come of IE6 so I'm wondering
> which predecessor is being talked about here.

IE 7 and 8. I left IE 6 a long time ago. All the companies I have 
contracted in left  IE 6 long ago.
>
> "Only works in Windows 7 and Vista." - Well of course.  Microsoft is
> desperate that you buy buy buy, more, more. more theres no money for
> them with XP and after they spent so much marketing Vista and 7 they
> will make damn sure they are not out of pocket....people better be
> quick, the MVP's are now on about 8.

Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the 
freetard spill.
>
> But finally:
>
> "Still some occasional site incompatibilities."

FF4 hit a site and crashed Vista and IE9 didn't. I have not run into any 
sites that IE9 was not compatible with, and that's all that counts is 
the user experience in using a product.
>
> And even as an ex-Microsoft home user for many years....I remember with
> a shudder, the word "incompatibilities" all too well.

That's you experience not mine.
>
> "When it comes to supporting new Web standards, IE9 is on the right track."
>
> It's 2011... on the "right track" that for me is not a ringing
> endorsement nor does it cut it.. This is Microsoft here, not some mom
> and pop repair shop in the suburbs.

It's MS's world.
>
> But hey, we will see.
>
> Microsoft soon removed the paid for Tweet though didn't they?  A PR
> stunt backfiring? maybe.  Actions to make up for another lacking product
> in the face of tough competition? - Very likely in my view.
>

You are no better than Ballard and his babblings.  Now that's saying 
something. :)

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:19:36 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/27/2011 3:25 AM, Goblin wrote:

>> Microsoft soon removed the paid for Tweet though didn't they?  A PR
>> stunt backfiring? maybe.  Actions to make up for another lacking product
>> in the face of tough competition? - Very likely in my view.
>>
> 
> You are no better than Ballard and his babblings.  Now that's saying 
> something. :)

Goblin is a blathering idiot who takes the supercilious to a "gnu"
level.

Seriously the guy is an idiot.

So why doesn't he use his real full name if he believes in Linux so
much.

"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote in message 
news:immpdh$svs$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.

Idiot.

[Download Now]
Windows 7 64-bit (English) - Other versions
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/internet-explorer/downloads/ie

On 3/27/2011 9:26 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
> "Lawrence D'Oliveiro"<ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand>  wrote in message
> news:immpdh$svs$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.
>
> Idiot.
>
> [Download Now]
> Windows 7 64-bit (English) - Other versions
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/internet-explorer/downloads/ie
>
>
Yeah he is a total clown. And he can't see past the nose on his face -- 
blind. There is also Vista 64 bit, and Win 2k8 server 64 bit, which both 
can run IE9 64 bit.

On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
> 
> What? Make a site work with .Net effectively, since .NET is over taking
> COM based solution on the Windows O/S more and more like Win 7. I have
> no problem with that, since I am a .NET programmer.

Right! Progress! We now have an opinion based on personal circumstance,
the point I make when I make a software choice.  Its a damn good reason,
for you.

"
IE 7 and 8. I left IE 6 a long time ago. All the companies I have
contracted in left  IE 6 long ago. "

Pleased to hear it.  My employers have not, I have friends whose
employers have, but that is not typical is it?  How long have Microsoft
been trying to get people off IE6....infact come to think of it, we are
now seeing mention of Windows 8 and we still have an incredibly large
base of users with XP.

"Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
freetard spill. "

It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because
its the way they work though, does it make it right?  Infact why don't
we all just surrender, throw our arms into the air and buy buy buy
everytime any firm wants its return on whatever new product they release?

I remember a time when hardware was built with the expectation to last.
 This throwaway culture that alot of users are in only benefits the
companies making a profit of the back of it.  Since many users are
sticking with XP I'd suggest my "spill" that you mention is something
they agree with.

"FF4 hit a site and crashed Vista and IE9 didn't."

And you site that as an example?  If I had a �1 for everything which
crashed Vista, I'd be on Ballmer wages.

"That's you experience not mine. "

Well done! You understand opinion.

"It's MS's world. "

Generalized myth.  Oh hang on yes you are right....everyone jumped on
the Zune, Kin and WP7...and even the xbox is not losing sales to the
PS3.......my mistake...sorry.   I must have missed the mass dash to the
shops for an MS tablet too.....I'll research more next time.

"You are no better than Ballard and his babblings.  Now that's saying
something."

Cheap, but a good enough way to end a conversation whilst trying to save
yourself....  Anyone can insult, you will be judged by others on your
rather poor attempt.

Just like every other person who tries to cheapen an alternative
Microsoft view, you can only do it by being rude.
The use of the free**** word shows that,  This is because you have no
argument, just like you justify IE9 for yourself,  I do the same for the
choices I make (not all of which FOSS either) but heres the problem, how
can you try to downplay others opinion....simple....be rude and use
silly words.  Ive already explained slowly to others that in terms of
wanting things for nothing Windows users are up at the top, a stat that
can be easily proved by looking at clients in any BT swarms and at the
volume of windows binaries traded within the "warez" scene.


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On 03/27/2011 11:26 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:19:36 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
> 
>> On 3/27/2011 3:25 AM, Goblin wrote:
> 
>>> Microsoft soon removed the paid for Tweet though didn't they?  A PR
>>> stunt backfiring? maybe.  Actions to make up for another lacking product
>>> in the face of tough competition? - Very likely in my view.
>>>
>>
>> You are no better than Ballard and his babblings.  Now that's saying 
>> something. :)
> 
> Goblin is a blathering idiot who takes the supercilious to a "gnu"
> level.
> 
> Seriously the guy is an idiot.
> 
> So why doesn't he use his real full name if he believes in Linux so
> much.
and why don't you use yours?

I give my net presence, you don't.  My surname would add nothing to my
opinion and as for idiots its very easy for even the casual reader to
check back and see who said what.  I am confident that my behaviour sets
me far above you.

Please don't let me have to "parent" you again and tell you off for
naughtiness.  Just behave.

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On 03/27/2011 11:26 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:19:36 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
> 
>> On 3/27/2011 3:25 AM, Goblin wrote:
> 
>>> Microsoft soon removed the paid for Tweet though didn't they?  A PR
>>> stunt backfiring? maybe.  Actions to make up for another lacking product
>>> in the face of tough competition? - Very likely in my view.
>>>
>>
>> You are no better than Ballard and his babblings.  Now that's saying 
>> something. :)
> 
> Goblin is a blathering idiot who takes the supercilious to a "gnu"
> level.
> 
> Seriously the guy is an idiot.
> 
> So why doesn't he use his real full name if he believes in Linux so
> much.
and Flatfish. "Believes in Linux so much?" Another misrepresentation.  I
would like you to answer what exactly I have done to you (except stay
polite in the face of your childish rudeness) and I would also say I
only champion Linux because it is the best solution at the moment for
me.  I don't "believe" in any software solution, its software. Get a
grip Flatfish.  I use what I find best for me (and thats also
proprietary software too)

Unfortunately for you, you are not able to put a label on someone that
actually likes/uses both FOSS and proprietary.  Ask me about Apple, I
champion their products as my wife has had such a problem free
experience.  Ask me about Sony, I champion their products because its my
families choice for home entertainment solution.  I do not celebrate
FOSS because its FOSS, I never have.  I believe its a damn good model
for the future, but until the time when I can replace all my software
choices with FOSS alternatives, I am quite happy using a mixture.

I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.

I hope this is the last time I have to explain that to you.

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On 3/27/2011 9:39 AM, Goblin wrote:
> On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>>
>> What? Make a site work with .Net effectively, since .NET is over taking
>> COM based solution on the Windows O/S more and more like Win 7. I have
>> no problem with that, since I am a .NET programmer.
>
> Right! Progress! We now have an opinion based on personal circumstance,
> the point I make when I make a software choice.  Its a damn good reason,
> for you.

It's my job. It's what is putting those dollars in my pockets
>
> "
> IE 7 and 8. I left IE 6 a long time ago. All the companies I have
> contracted in left  IE 6 long ago. "
>
> Pleased to hear it.  My employers have not, I have friends whose
> employers have, but that is not typical is it?  How long have Microsoft
> been trying to get people off IE6....infact come to think of it, we are
> now seeing mention of Windows 8 and we still have an incredibly large
> base of users with XP.

So? They are going to dance to the MS tune eventually, as new technology 
is not geared towards IE 6 and Windows XP. They are being left behind. 
The same thing happened with Windows DOS, Windows 9x, Windows ME, 
Windows NT 4, and Windows 2000 workstation and server. Windows XP and 
Win 2k3 server are going to go the same path.

>
> "Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
> freetard spill. "
>
> It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because
> its the way they work though, does it make it right?  Infact why don't
> we all just surrender, throw our arms into the air and buy buy buy
> everytime any firm wants its return on whatever new product they release?

What are you going to do about? There is nothing you can do. And in 
fact, it's nothing I am going to be concerned about either.

Bottom line is if you are broke you are broke, and I can't spare a dime.
>
> I remember a time when hardware was built with the expectation to last.
>   This throwaway culture that alot of users are in only benefits the
> companies making a profit of the back of it.  Since many users are
> sticking with XP I'd suggest my "spill" that you mention is something
> they agree with.
>
And it also puts money in workers pockets. Those that stay behind more 
to them. They got users still running Win 9x. So?
> "FF4 hit a site and crashed Vista and IE9 didn't."
>
> And you site that as an example?  If I had a �1 for everything which
> crashed Vista, I'd be on Ballmer wages.

Many companies are using Vista, like the US Army,   Air Force and many 
others. Vista never crashed when using Vista or Win 7 in companies I 
have contracted in. As one tech support in a company put  in one of the 
companies I was contracting in using Vista, Vista is very stable now.
>
> "That's you experience not mine."
>
> Well done! You understand opinion.
>
> "It's MS's world."
>
> Generalized myth.  Oh hang on yes you are right....everyone jumped on
> the Zune, Kin and WP7...and even the xbox is not losing sales to the
> PS3.......my mistake...sorry.   I must have missed the mass dash to the
> shops for an MS tablet too.....I'll research more next time.

I could care less about this, although I am planing on getting one of 
those Windows phone 7's, just like I have a Droid.

And it's still MS's world,  and you are an idiot if your think 
otherwise. And I am not talking about phones or xbox's. :)

>
> "You are no better than Ballard and his babblings.  Now that's saying
> something."
>
> Cheap, but a good enough way to end a conversation whilst trying to save
> yourself....  Anyone can insult, you will be judged by others on your
> rather poor attempt.
>
> Just like every other person who tries to cheapen an alternative

LOL! You are nobody and you should face that hard truth. :)

<snipped the rest of it why bother it's more Ballard>

On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:

>
> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.

You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the UK, 
before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of 
looking like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)

HTH

"Big Steel" <Steel@Steel.com> wrote in message 
news:l8adnU3IOJHD2hLQnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:
>
>>
>> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
>> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.
>
> You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the UK, 
> before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of looking 
> like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)
>
> HTH
>
>

Japan is #1, Greece is #5 and the UK is #23 in terms of having the highest 
debt in relation to GDP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt

On 03/27/2011 03:15 PM, Big Steel wrote:
> 
> It's my job. It's what is putting those dollars in my pockets

Thank you for your honesty.  But since I have no financial interest in
any software and to be fair it makes no difference to my lifestyle which
platform product "rules the roost" I think my view is is rather fairer.
 I won't be living on benefits if FOSS/Microsoft/Apple or anything else
was to vanish overnight.

"What are you going to do about? There is nothing you can do. And in
fact, it's nothing I am going to be concerned about either. "

Well there is and its happening now.  Its why WP7 can't sell like
Android or iphone.  Its why Zune never took off as an ipod beater, its
why people continue to use Google instead of Bing.

Its called freedom of choice, we can all exercise it anytime we like.


"Bottom line is if you are broke you are broke, and I can't spare a dime."

Exactly.  And another reason why in these harder times not being
wasteful on all purchases is damn good advice.

Quote "And it's still MS's world,  and you are an idiot if your think
otherwise. And I am not talking about phones or xbox's."

Of course it is.  We've seen plans of a future MS world too like the
patent claims it makes when it can't sell its own products.  That aside
though you make probably the best point Ive ever read in COLA from the
"anti" brigade, that being:

"And it's still MS's world,  and you are an idiot if your think otherwise."

Thats an important message which people need to take stock of when
choosing their future solutions.  We see evidence of this MS world every
day, even in here.  Its the MS World that causes posters like some here
to post the most vile comments to try to cheapen the alternative view.
It wouldn't be so bad if they debated properly, but when I look over the
last few months at some of the comments directed at COLA users, I am not
only disgusted, but saddened. As I say this is software/hardware not
world peace.  A lack of maturity or fear of FOSS? I wonder what compels
the "anti-cola" crowd to post?  An answer I can confidently say will
never be answered truthfully by any of them.

As I say to you though.  Thank you for your honesty.

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On 03/27/2011 03:27 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
> "Big Steel" <Steel@Steel.com> wrote in message 
> news:l8adnU3IOJHD2hLQnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
>>> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.
>>
>> You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the UK, 
>> before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of looking 
>> like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>
> 
> Japan is #1, Greece is #5 and the UK is #23 in terms of having the highest 
> debt in relation to GDP.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt
> 
> 
> 
> 

and I have no debt whatsoever. So Im sitting happily in my house which I
paid the mortgage off on a couple of years ago.

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On 3/27/2011 10:27 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
> "Big Steel"<Steel@Steel.com>  wrote in message
> news:l8adnU3IOJHD2hLQnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
>>> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.
>>
>> You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the UK,
>> before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of looking
>> like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>
>
> Japan is #1, Greece is #5 and the UK is #23 in terms of having the highest
> debt in relation to GDP.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt
>
>
>
>

I am talking about this.

<http://www.wordblog.co.uk/2011/02/10/social-media-and-protest-in-egypt-and-england/>

I thought I heard the other day about people marching in protest over 
there about the government.

"Goblin" <bytes4free@googlemail.com> wrote in message 
news:L_Hjp.144525$P95.85850@newsfe05.ams2...
> On 03/27/2011 03:27 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>> "Big Steel" <Steel@Steel.com> wrote in message
>> news:l8adnU3IOJHD2hLQnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
>>>> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.
>>>
>>> You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the UK,
>>> before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of 
>>> looking
>>> like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Japan is #1, Greece is #5 and the UK is #23 in terms of having the 
>> highest
>> debt in relation to GDP.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> and I have no debt whatsoever. So Im sitting happily in my house which I
> paid the mortgage off on a couple of years ago.
>

Many people are afraid of debt as if it were the plague or something. A 
couple of years ago I had no long-term debt (mortgage, car loan, etc) but 
re-mortgaged a portion of my house a little over a year ago. Being able to 
get hordes of money at a 4.x% (tax deductible) interest rate is too good of 
a deal to pass up. Putting the money into something as simple as a no-load 
index fund would easily provide a nice return.

Having the money just sit there locked into the net worth of a house isn't 
as great of an idea as you may think.

On 3/27/2011 10:31 AM, Goblin wrote:
> On 03/27/2011 03:15 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>
>> It's my job. It's what is putting those dollars in my pockets
>
> Thank you for your honesty.  But since I have no financial interest in
> any software and to be fair it makes no difference to my lifestyle which
> platform product "rules the roost" I think my view is is rather fairer.
>   I won't be living on benefits if FOSS/Microsoft/Apple or anything else
> was to vanish overnight.

It's not my problem. I have other things to worry about.

>
> "What are you going to do about? There is nothing you can do. And in
> fact, it's nothing I am going to be concerned about either. "
>
> Well there is and its happening now.  Its why WP7 can't sell like
> Android or iphone.  Its why Zune never took off as an ipod beater, its
> why people continue to use Google instead of Bing.

I don't think MS cares other than to have a presence. MS is holding it's 
own. It's about making that money any way one can.
>
> Its called freedom of choice, we can all exercise it anytime we like.

There are choices all over the world. I had a choice not to use BP gas 
anymore. But I didn't make that choice, although BP did a lot of damage.
>
>
> "Bottom line is if you are broke you are broke, and I can't spare a dime."
>
> Exactly.  And another reason why in these harder times not being
> wasteful on all purchases is damn good advice.
>
> Quote "And it's still MS's world,  and you are an idiot if your think
> otherwise. And I am not talking about phones or xbox's."
>
> Of course it is.  We've seen plans of a future MS world too like the
> patent claims it makes when it can't sell its own products.  That aside
> though you make probably the best point Ive ever read in COLA from the
> "anti" brigade, that being:
>
> "And it's still MS's world,  and you are an idiot if your think otherwise."

It's the truth.
>
> Thats an important message which people need to take stock of when
> choosing their future solutions.  We see evidence of this MS world every
> day, even in here.  Its the MS World that causes posters like some here
> to post the most vile comments to try to cheapen the alternative view.

This is a NG and it's life on the Internet. If you can't stand the heat, 
you should get out of the kitchen. I have been told by a fellow that he 
was disgusted with COLA, because many of the hardcore COLA regulars act 
like trolls. Do I need to make a list and point them out?

> It wouldn't be so bad if they debated properly, but when I look over the
> last few months at some of the comments directed at COLA users, I am not
> only disgusted, but saddened.

Those COLA users are no bed of roses, just look at that clown Willie 
Poaster  aka Willie-Kiss-em-Butt Boaster, a cheap trick and the loon chrisv.


> As I say this is software/hardware not
> world peace.  A lack of maturity or fear of FOSS? I wonder what compels
> the "anti-cola" crowd to post?  An answer I can confidently say will
> never be answered truthfully by any of them.

I think it's mainly they don't like some of the loud mouth people. A lot 
of them are liars,  with half truths, make things up and twist things to 
fit their needs.

Just observation...

>
> As I say to you though.  Thank you for your honesty.
>

Goblin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>> 
> "Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
> freetard spill. "
>
> It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because

Can you quote in the standard way, so I can see Big Squeal's cavillings in a
different color?

-- 
Programmers do it bit by bit.

On 3/27/2011 11:23 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Goblin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>
>> "Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
>> freetard spill. "
>>
>> It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because
>
> Can you quote in the standard way, so I can see Big Squeal's cavillings in a
> different color?
>

Fuck you, you phony and a hypocrite using MS solutions to make your 
two-bit living. When you get a job using Linux, make a living using 
Linux, and collecting a paycheck using Linux you hypocrite bum, then and 
only then can your run your damn mouth. You are never going to get a job 
using Linux, and a clown and a bum like you is lucky to have a job in IT 
or programming -- period. A hypocrite like you belongs nowhere.

Sad part about your dumbass is that you are an American, you pos.

And Goblin, if you are reading this, this what I am talking about with 
COLA chicken-shit regulars acting like trolls. Ahlstrom is one of the 
main phony clowns. If you can defend a clown like him and his actions, 
then you were talking nonsense about the MS users acting the same in 
this NG.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Big Steel" <Steel@Steel.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: I am beginning to like IE9 the ,ore I use it.


> On 3/27/2011 10:31 AM, Goblin wrote:
>> On 03/27/2011 03:15 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>
> I don't think MS cares other than to have a presence. MS is holding it's 
> own. It's about making that money any way one can.
>>
>> Its called freedom of choice, we can all exercise it anytime we like.
>
> There are choices all over the world. I had a choice not to use BP gas 
> anymore. But I didn't make that choice, although BP did a lot of damage.
>

Or people simply don't make the same choice someone else made or choose for 
a different reason.

The BP gas example you mentioned - there's a BP station right on my way to 
work and I get my gas there most of the time. I've read and heard about the 
'just protest BP' solution and I think it's misguided. The BP station I go 
to is run by a couple of brothers who came here from Brazil. The two of them 
worked at the station for years and saved enough money to buy the station 
from the previous owner. They're both good hard working guys.

I choose not to boycott BP gas because my boycotting will affect BP's global 
profits by less than round-off error. Meanwhile it's punnishing the brothers 
who had exactly 0.0% to do with the oil spill.

I'd say that many/most? people just don't care enough and can't be bothered 
to boycott. The point is there are different reasons to use/buy something or 
choose not to.

"Big Steel" <Steel@Steel.com> wrote in message 
news:69-dndJC-PBuwRLQnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> On 3/27/2011 11:23 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Goblin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>
>>> "Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
>>> freetard spill. "
>>>
>>> It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because
>>
>> Can you quote in the standard way, so I can see Big Squeal's cavillings 
>> in a
>> different color?
>>
>
> Fuck you, you phony and a hypocrite using MS solutions to make your 
> two-bit living. When you get a job using Linux, make a living using Linux, 
> and collecting a paycheck using Linux you hypocrite bum, then and only 
> then can your run your damn mouth. You are never going to get a job using 
> Linux, and a clown and a bum like you is lucky to have a job in IT or 
> programming -- period. A hypocrite like you belongs nowhere.
>

Bingo. I bet some idiot will save out of context parts of my post for 
"quote" material but I'll backup my post. They are hypocrites but not for 
the same reason you mention.

They're hypocrites *not* because they do this. If this is all they did then 
I wouldn't have a problem with it. But these same people *crucify* notable 
OSS developers/managers for not living up to their lofty OSS ideals.

Imagine the wrath someone like de Icaza, etc. would get if he worked in a MS 
shop, developing primarily closed-source Windows software that is intended 
to run on the customers Windows machines. They won't hold themselves to the 
standards that they attack others for.

On Sunday 27 March 2011 11:26 flatfish+++ wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:19:36 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
> 
>> On 3/27/2011 3:25 AM, Goblin wrote:
> 
>>> Microsoft soon removed the paid for Tweet though didn't they?  A PR
>>> stunt backfiring? maybe.  Actions to make up for another lacking product
>>> in the face of tough competition? - Very likely in my view.
>>>
>> 
>> You are no better than Ballard and his babblings.  Now that's saying 
>> something. :)
> 
> Goblin is a blathering idiot who takes the supercilious to a "gnu"
> level.
> 
> Seriously the guy is an idiot.
> 
> So why doesn't he use his real full name if he believes in Linux so
> much.

His *real* name???
Flatfish, *you* are too much of a coward to own up to the *nyms* under which 
*you* have posted!

You really are one mentally disturbed soul, aren't you?
You poor, poor individual.  It must be hell living in your head....

On 2011-03-27, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> claimed:
> Goblin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>>> 
>> "Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
>> freetard spill. "
>>
>> It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because
>
> Can you quote in the standard way, so I can see Big Squeal's cavillings in a
> different color?

Better yet, why not flush the Big Stool and be done with it?

-- 
Contentsoftaglinemaysettleduringshipping.
Aspire One, Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.10
Friends don't let friends use Windows

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:51:10 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/27/2011 11:23 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Goblin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>
>>> "Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
>>> freetard spill. "
>>>
>>> It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because
>>
>> Can you quote in the standard way, so I can see Big Squeal's cavillings in a
>> different color?
>>
> 
> Fuck you, you phony and a hypocrite using MS solutions to make your 
> two-bit living. When you get a job using Linux, make a living using 
> Linux, and collecting a paycheck using Linux you hypocrite bum, then and 
> only then can your run your damn mouth. You are never going to get a job 
> using Linux, and a clown and a bum like you is lucky to have a job in IT 
> or programming -- period. A hypocrite like you belongs nowhere.
> 
> Sad part about your dumbass is that you are an American, you pos.
> 
> And Goblin, if you are reading this, this what I am talking about with 
> COLA chicken-shit regulars acting like trolls. Ahlstrom is one of the 
> main phony clowns. If you can defend a clown like him and his actions, 
> then you were talking nonsense about the MS users acting the same in 
> this NG.

Yea, that's Ahlstrom to a tee....
Sad actually.

Both you and DFS kicked Goblin to the curb, and how....

He's a time waster with an agenda. Protecting his master Roy.
I'm surprised we don't see twatter, Tessier, Oiaohm and the rest of the
can of nuts over here infesting the place.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:17:50 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

> "Big Steel" <Steel@Steel.com> wrote in message 
> news:69-dndJC-PBuwRLQnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> On 3/27/2011 11:23 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Goblin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> "Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
>>>> freetard spill. "
>>>>
>>>> It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because
>>>
>>> Can you quote in the standard way, so I can see Big Squeal's cavillings 
>>> in a
>>> different color?
>>>
>>
>> Fuck you, you phony and a hypocrite using MS solutions to make your 
>> two-bit living. When you get a job using Linux, make a living using Linux, 
>> and collecting a paycheck using Linux you hypocrite bum, then and only 
>> then can your run your damn mouth. You are never going to get a job using 
>> Linux, and a clown and a bum like you is lucky to have a job in IT or 
>> programming -- period. A hypocrite like you belongs nowhere.
>>
> 
> Bingo. I bet some idiot will save out of context parts of my post for 
> "quote" material but I'll backup my post. They are hypocrites but not for 
> the same reason you mention.
> 
> They're hypocrites *not* because they do this. If this is all they did then 
> I wouldn't have a problem with it. But these same people *crucify* notable 
> OSS developers/managers for not living up to their lofty OSS ideals.
> 
> Imagine the wrath someone like de Icaza, etc. would get if he worked in a MS 
> shop, developing primarily closed-source Windows software that is intended 
> to run on the customers Windows machines. They won't hold themselves to the 
> standards that they attack others for.

Bingo Bingo!!!!

It goes back to the preacher being a drunk vs the parishioner being a
drunk.

Big difference.....

For the record, I have *zero problem* with people using Windows or Linux
at work and advocating the opposite here in COLA.
One has to put food on the table and that is what is most important.

However, when that person is on a soapbox yelling down to the others
about the evils of whatever, calling developers nasty names, expecting
others to abandon their choice of platform etc then it becomes
hypocritical.

I don't care if chrisv posts from Agent either, other than to bust his
junk.
So what?
It's all the other crap he does that is problematic.

And then we have the biggest phony of all, Roy, who has a litany of
Microsoft technology experience listed on his resume.

I give him credit for what he is doing now, research using open source
and sharing his work with the community, but wrt his resume, it goes
back to the preacher vs parishioner thing again.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:38:16 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/27/2011 9:26 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
>> "Lawrence D'Oliveiro"<ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand>  wrote in message
>> news:immpdh$svs$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.
>>
>> Idiot.
>>
>> [Download Now]
>> Windows 7 64-bit (English) - Other versions
>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/internet-explorer/downloads/ie
>>
>>
> Yeah he is a total clown. And he can't see past the nose on his face -- 
> blind. There is also Vista 64 bit, and Win 2k8 server 64 bit, which both 
> can run IE9 64 bit.

Olive Oil is a slippery moron.
Looks like his brains just slid down his pants leg...

On 3/27/2011 1:10 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:17:50 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> "Big Steel"<Steel@Steel.com>  wrote in message
>> news:69-dndJC-PBuwRLQnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> On 3/27/2011 11:23 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> Goblin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>
>>>>> On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> "Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
>>>>> freetard spill. "
>>>>>
>>>>> It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because
>>>>
>>>> Can you quote in the standard way, so I can see Big Squeal's cavillings
>>>> in a
>>>> different color?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fuck you, you phony and a hypocrite using MS solutions to make your
>>> two-bit living. When you get a job using Linux, make a living using Linux,
>>> and collecting a paycheck using Linux you hypocrite bum, then and only
>>> then can your run your damn mouth. You are never going to get a job using
>>> Linux, and a clown and a bum like you is lucky to have a job in IT or
>>> programming -- period. A hypocrite like you belongs nowhere.
>>>
>>
>> Bingo. I bet some idiot will save out of context parts of my post for
>> "quote" material but I'll backup my post. They are hypocrites but not for
>> the same reason you mention.
>>
>> They're hypocrites *not* because they do this. If this is all they did then
>> I wouldn't have a problem with it. But these same people *crucify* notable
>> OSS developers/managers for not living up to their lofty OSS ideals.
>>
>> Imagine the wrath someone like de Icaza, etc. would get if he worked in a MS
>> shop, developing primarily closed-source Windows software that is intended
>> to run on the customers Windows machines. They won't hold themselves to the
>> standards that they attack others for.
>
> Bingo Bingo!!!!
>
> It goes back to the preacher being a drunk vs the parishioner being a
> drunk.
>
> Big difference.....
>
> For the record, I have *zero problem* with people using Windows or Linux
> at work and advocating the opposite here in COLA.
> One has to put food on the table and that is what is most important.
>
> However, when that person is on a soapbox yelling down to the others
> about the evils of whatever, calling developers nasty names, expecting
> others to abandon their choice of platform etc then it becomes
> hypocritical.
>
> I don't care if chrisv posts from Agent either, other than to bust his
> junk.
> So what?
> It's all the other crap he does that is problematic.
>
> And then we have the biggest phony of all, Roy, who has a litany of
> Microsoft technology experience listed on his resume.
>
> I give him credit for what he is doing now, research using open source
> and sharing his work with the community, but wrt his resume, it goes
> back to the preacher vs parishioner thing again.

If Ahlstrom wasn't a complete ass, I would have no problems with him. I 
have nothing against Linux. The clown acted an ass right out the gate, 
and he continues to do so. He doesn't know jack about .NET,  and he is 
talking lying smack. And secondly, he has no clue about a lot of things. 
I don't follow that clown that much, but he sure acts an ass 99.9% of 
the time.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:57:43 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

> "Goblin" <bytes4free@googlemail.com> wrote in message 
> news:L_Hjp.144525$P95.85850@newsfe05.ams2...
>> On 03/27/2011 03:27 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>> "Big Steel" <Steel@Steel.com> wrote in message
>>> news:l8adnU3IOJHD2hLQnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>> On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
>>>>> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.
>>>>
>>>> You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the UK,
>>>> before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of 
>>>> looking
>>>> like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Japan is #1, Greece is #5 and the UK is #23 in terms of having the 
>>> highest
>>> debt in relation to GDP.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> and I have no debt whatsoever. So Im sitting happily in my house which I
>> paid the mortgage off on a couple of years ago.
>>
> 
> Many people are afraid of debt as if it were the plague or something. A 
> couple of years ago I had no long-term debt (mortgage, car loan, etc) but 
> re-mortgaged a portion of my house a little over a year ago. Being able to 
> get hordes of money at a 4.x% (tax deductible) interest rate is too good of 
> a deal to pass up. Putting the money into something as simple as a no-load 
> index fund would easily provide a nice return.
> 
> Having the money just sit there locked into the net worth of a house isn't 
> as great of an idea as you may think.

WRT debt, read some of Donald Trump's books.
He talks about stuff like that.

In a nutshell, you need to have debt/investment in order to make money.

Real estate is an excellent investment right now as prices are low.
It's a risk though.
Buy in a place like NYC and you will probably make money.
Buy in a place like South Carolina and you will probably lose or maybe
break even.

On 3/27/2011 1:28 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:57:43 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> "Goblin"<bytes4free@googlemail.com>  wrote in message
>> news:L_Hjp.144525$P95.85850@newsfe05.ams2...
>>> On 03/27/2011 03:27 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>> "Big Steel"<Steel@Steel.com>  wrote in message
>>>> news:l8adnU3IOJHD2hLQnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>> On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
>>>>>> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.
>>>>>
>>>>> You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the UK,
>>>>> before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of
>>>>> looking
>>>>> like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Japan is #1, Greece is #5 and the UK is #23 in terms of having the
>>>> highest
>>>> debt in relation to GDP.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> and I have no debt whatsoever. So Im sitting happily in my house which I
>>> paid the mortgage off on a couple of years ago.
>>>
>>
>> Many people are afraid of debt as if it were the plague or something. A
>> couple of years ago I had no long-term debt (mortgage, car loan, etc) but
>> re-mortgaged a portion of my house a little over a year ago. Being able to
>> get hordes of money at a 4.x% (tax deductible) interest rate is too good of
>> a deal to pass up. Putting the money into something as simple as a no-load
>> index fund would easily provide a nice return.
>>
>> Having the money just sit there locked into the net worth of a house isn't
>> as great of an idea as you may think.
>
> WRT debt, read some of Donald Trump's books.
> He talks about stuff like that.
>
> In a nutshell, you need to have debt/investment in order to make money.
>
> Real estate is an excellent investment right now as prices are low.
> It's a risk though.
> Buy in a place like NYC and you will probably make money.
> Buy in a place like South Carolina and you will probably lose or maybe
> break even.

I worked in Columbia, SC. in the latter part of 2010. It was hot as hell 
down there, a 100 degrees or higher just about everyday I was there. But 
it's one of the Sun Belt States with plenty of jobs in high tech like .NET.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:23:06 -0400, Big Steel wrote:


> If Ahlstrom wasn't a complete ass, I would have no problems with him. I 
> have nothing against Linux. The clown acted an ass right out the gate, 
> and he continues to do so. He doesn't know jack about .NET,  and he is 
> talking lying smack. And secondly, he has no clue about a lot of things. 
> I don't follow that clown that much, but he sure acts an ass 99.9% of 
> the time.

Yea.
Hadron had Ahlstrom pegged.
I missed it at first, but Hadron was right.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:34:19 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/27/2011 1:28 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:57:43 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>> "Goblin"<bytes4free@googlemail.com>  wrote in message
>>> news:L_Hjp.144525$P95.85850@newsfe05.ams2...
>>>> On 03/27/2011 03:27 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>> "Big Steel"<Steel@Steel.com>  wrote in message
>>>>> news:l8adnU3IOJHD2hLQnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>>> On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
>>>>>>> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the UK,
>>>>>> before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of
>>>>>> looking
>>>>>> like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Japan is #1, Greece is #5 and the UK is #23 in terms of having the
>>>>> highest
>>>>> debt in relation to GDP.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and I have no debt whatsoever. So Im sitting happily in my house which I
>>>> paid the mortgage off on a couple of years ago.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Many people are afraid of debt as if it were the plague or something. A
>>> couple of years ago I had no long-term debt (mortgage, car loan, etc) but
>>> re-mortgaged a portion of my house a little over a year ago. Being able to
>>> get hordes of money at a 4.x% (tax deductible) interest rate is too good of
>>> a deal to pass up. Putting the money into something as simple as a no-load
>>> index fund would easily provide a nice return.
>>>
>>> Having the money just sit there locked into the net worth of a house isn't
>>> as great of an idea as you may think.
>>
>> WRT debt, read some of Donald Trump's books.
>> He talks about stuff like that.
>>
>> In a nutshell, you need to have debt/investment in order to make money.
>>
>> Real estate is an excellent investment right now as prices are low.
>> It's a risk though.
>> Buy in a place like NYC and you will probably make money.
>> Buy in a place like South Carolina and you will probably lose or maybe
>> break even.
> 
> I worked in Columbia, SC. in the latter part of 2010. It was hot as hell 
> down there, a 100 degrees or higher just about everyday I was there. But 
> it's one of the Sun Belt States with plenty of jobs in high tech like .NET.

Atlanta was once like that.
A hotbed, literally, of high tech jobs.
These days it's tough finding work down there.
Same in NY BTW.

Another one is Raleigh NC, Research Triangle Park for one.
That's dying now too as jobs are off shored.

As for South Carolina I get down there once in a while.
Every time I see the sign for "Cowpens" I laugh.

Looks like a dusty, hot place to me.
At least from the highway.

On 3/27/2011 1:53 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:34:19 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2011 1:28 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:57:43 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Goblin"<bytes4free@googlemail.com>   wrote in message
>>>> news:L_Hjp.144525$P95.85850@newsfe05.ams2...
>>>>> On 03/27/2011 03:27 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>> "Big Steel"<Steel@Steel.com>   wrote in message
>>>>>> news:l8adnU3IOJHD2hLQnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>>>> On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
>>>>>>>> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the UK,
>>>>>>> before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of
>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>> like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Japan is #1, Greece is #5 and the UK is #23 in terms of having the
>>>>>> highest
>>>>>> debt in relation to GDP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and I have no debt whatsoever. So Im sitting happily in my house which I
>>>>> paid the mortgage off on a couple of years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Many people are afraid of debt as if it were the plague or something. A
>>>> couple of years ago I had no long-term debt (mortgage, car loan, etc) but
>>>> re-mortgaged a portion of my house a little over a year ago. Being able to
>>>> get hordes of money at a 4.x% (tax deductible) interest rate is too good of
>>>> a deal to pass up. Putting the money into something as simple as a no-load
>>>> index fund would easily provide a nice return.
>>>>
>>>> Having the money just sit there locked into the net worth of a house isn't
>>>> as great of an idea as you may think.
>>>
>>> WRT debt, read some of Donald Trump's books.
>>> He talks about stuff like that.
>>>
>>> In a nutshell, you need to have debt/investment in order to make money.
>>>
>>> Real estate is an excellent investment right now as prices are low.
>>> It's a risk though.
>>> Buy in a place like NYC and you will probably make money.
>>> Buy in a place like South Carolina and you will probably lose or maybe
>>> break even.
>>
>> I worked in Columbia, SC. in the latter part of 2010. It was hot as hell
>> down there, a 100 degrees or higher just about everyday I was there. But
>> it's one of the Sun Belt States with plenty of jobs in high tech like .NET.
>
> Atlanta was once like that.
> A hotbed, literally, of high tech jobs.
> These days it's tough finding work down there.
> Same in NY BTW.
>
> Another one is Raleigh NC, Research Triangle Park for one.
> That's dying now too as jobs are off shored.
>
> As for South Carolina I get down there once in a while.
> Every time I see the sign for "Cowpens" I laugh.
>
> Looks like a dusty, hot place to me.
> At least from the highway.

You see that's the thing. I have never had a problem getting a job on 
the IBM mainframe back in the 70's, 80's and first part of the 90's. 
Then after switching over to MS in the mid 90's, I have never had a 
problem getting jobs too using MS solutions.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:03:08 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/27/2011 1:53 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:34:19 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/27/2011 1:28 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:57:43 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Goblin"<bytes4free@googlemail.com>   wrote in message
>>>>> news:L_Hjp.144525$P95.85850@newsfe05.ams2...
>>>>>> On 03/27/2011 03:27 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>> "Big Steel"<Steel@Steel.com>   wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:l8adnU3IOJHD2hLQnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>>>>> On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
>>>>>>>>> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the UK,
>>>>>>>> before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of
>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>> like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Japan is #1, Greece is #5 and the UK is #23 in terms of having the
>>>>>>> highest
>>>>>>> debt in relation to GDP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and I have no debt whatsoever. So Im sitting happily in my house which I
>>>>>> paid the mortgage off on a couple of years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Many people are afraid of debt as if it were the plague or something. A
>>>>> couple of years ago I had no long-term debt (mortgage, car loan, etc) but
>>>>> re-mortgaged a portion of my house a little over a year ago. Being able to
>>>>> get hordes of money at a 4.x% (tax deductible) interest rate is too good of
>>>>> a deal to pass up. Putting the money into something as simple as a no-load
>>>>> index fund would easily provide a nice return.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having the money just sit there locked into the net worth of a house isn't
>>>>> as great of an idea as you may think.
>>>>
>>>> WRT debt, read some of Donald Trump's books.
>>>> He talks about stuff like that.
>>>>
>>>> In a nutshell, you need to have debt/investment in order to make money.
>>>>
>>>> Real estate is an excellent investment right now as prices are low.
>>>> It's a risk though.
>>>> Buy in a place like NYC and you will probably make money.
>>>> Buy in a place like South Carolina and you will probably lose or maybe
>>>> break even.
>>>
>>> I worked in Columbia, SC. in the latter part of 2010. It was hot as hell
>>> down there, a 100 degrees or higher just about everyday I was there. But
>>> it's one of the Sun Belt States with plenty of jobs in high tech like .NET.
>>
>> Atlanta was once like that.
>> A hotbed, literally, of high tech jobs.
>> These days it's tough finding work down there.
>> Same in NY BTW.
>>
>> Another one is Raleigh NC, Research Triangle Park for one.
>> That's dying now too as jobs are off shored.
>>
>> As for South Carolina I get down there once in a while.
>> Every time I see the sign for "Cowpens" I laugh.
>>
>> Looks like a dusty, hot place to me.
>> At least from the highway.
> 
> You see that's the thing. I have never had a problem getting a job on 
> the IBM mainframe back in the 70's, 80's and first part of the 90's. 
> Then after switching over to MS in the mid 90's, I have never had a 
> problem getting jobs too using MS solutions.

That's a good thing!
You have to go where the work is and MS solutions is a good portion of
it.

I think for embedded devices knowing Linux can be a great thing as I do
believe Linux has an excellent future in that area.

On 3/27/2011 2:05 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:03:08 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2011 1:53 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:34:19 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/27/2011 1:28 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:57:43 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Goblin"<bytes4free@googlemail.com>    wrote in message
>>>>>> news:L_Hjp.144525$P95.85850@newsfe05.ams2...
>>>>>>> On 03/27/2011 03:27 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Big Steel"<Steel@Steel.com>    wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:l8adnU3IOJHD2hLQnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
>>>>>>>>>> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the UK,
>>>>>>>>> before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of
>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>> like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Japan is #1, Greece is #5 and the UK is #23 in terms of having the
>>>>>>>> highest
>>>>>>>> debt in relation to GDP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and I have no debt whatsoever. So Im sitting happily in my house which I
>>>>>>> paid the mortgage off on a couple of years ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many people are afraid of debt as if it were the plague or something. A
>>>>>> couple of years ago I had no long-term debt (mortgage, car loan, etc) but
>>>>>> re-mortgaged a portion of my house a little over a year ago. Being able to
>>>>>> get hordes of money at a 4.x% (tax deductible) interest rate is too good of
>>>>>> a deal to pass up. Putting the money into something as simple as a no-load
>>>>>> index fund would easily provide a nice return.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having the money just sit there locked into the net worth of a house isn't
>>>>>> as great of an idea as you may think.
>>>>>
>>>>> WRT debt, read some of Donald Trump's books.
>>>>> He talks about stuff like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a nutshell, you need to have debt/investment in order to make money.
>>>>>
>>>>> Real estate is an excellent investment right now as prices are low.
>>>>> It's a risk though.
>>>>> Buy in a place like NYC and you will probably make money.
>>>>> Buy in a place like South Carolina and you will probably lose or maybe
>>>>> break even.
>>>>
>>>> I worked in Columbia, SC. in the latter part of 2010. It was hot as hell
>>>> down there, a 100 degrees or higher just about everyday I was there. But
>>>> it's one of the Sun Belt States with plenty of jobs in high tech like .NET.
>>>
>>> Atlanta was once like that.
>>> A hotbed, literally, of high tech jobs.
>>> These days it's tough finding work down there.
>>> Same in NY BTW.
>>>
>>> Another one is Raleigh NC, Research Triangle Park for one.
>>> That's dying now too as jobs are off shored.
>>>
>>> As for South Carolina I get down there once in a while.
>>> Every time I see the sign for "Cowpens" I laugh.
>>>
>>> Looks like a dusty, hot place to me.
>>> At least from the highway.
>>
>> You see that's the thing. I have never had a problem getting a job on
>> the IBM mainframe back in the 70's, 80's and first part of the 90's.
>> Then after switching over to MS in the mid 90's, I have never had a
>> problem getting jobs too using MS solutions.
>
> That's a good thing!
> You have to go where the work is and MS solutions is a good portion of
> it.
>
> I think for embedded devices knowing Linux can be a great thing as I do
> believe Linux has an excellent future in that area.

Yeah, that's where Linux can get the bang for no bucks. It's weak at the 
desktop, laptop and servers other than Web servers.

On 2011-03-27, bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> claimed:
> On Sunday 27 March 2011 11:26 flatfish+++ wrote:

>> So why doesn't he use his real full name if he believes in Linux so
>> much.
>
> His *real* name???
> Flatfish, *you* are too much of a coward to own up to the *nyms* under which 
> *you* have posted!
>
> You really are one mentally disturbed soul, aren't you?
> You poor, poor individual.  It must be hell living in your head....

All that company. All that wasted space.

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"flatfish+++" <flatfish@marianatrench.com> wrote in message 
news:1n8oi4f3xg0p8.oyhd3og5nc44.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:57:43 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> "Goblin" <bytes4free@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:L_Hjp.144525$P95.85850@newsfe05.ams2...
>>> On 03/27/2011 03:27 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>> "Big Steel" <Steel@Steel.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:l8adnU3IOJHD2hLQnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>> On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
>>>>>> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.
>>>>>
>>>>> You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the 
>>>>> UK,
>>>>> before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of
>>>>> looking
>>>>> like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Japan is #1, Greece is #5 and the UK is #23 in terms of having the
>>>> highest
>>>> debt in relation to GDP.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> and I have no debt whatsoever. So Im sitting happily in my house which I
>>> paid the mortgage off on a couple of years ago.
>>>
>>
>> Many people are afraid of debt as if it were the plague or something. A
>> couple of years ago I had no long-term debt (mortgage, car loan, etc) but
>> re-mortgaged a portion of my house a little over a year ago. Being able 
>> to
>> get hordes of money at a 4.x% (tax deductible) interest rate is too good 
>> of
>> a deal to pass up. Putting the money into something as simple as a 
>> no-load
>> index fund would easily provide a nice return.
>>
>> Having the money just sit there locked into the net worth of a house 
>> isn't
>> as great of an idea as you may think.
>
> WRT debt, read some of Donald Trump's books.
> He talks about stuff like that.
>
I've never read any of Trump's books (I probably should) but I've read 
others. There's also two financial advisors who are close family members who 
I occasionally discuss things like with.

> In a nutshell, you need to have debt/investment in order to make money.
>
Having a bunch of equity tied up in your house with zero mortgage paymennt 
isn't doing very much with your money. For all practical purposes you might 
as well bury the money in the back yard. With interest rates at historic 
lows (4% range) it doesn't make financial sense to not take advantage of 
this. There's a difference between being mortgaged to the hilt versus 
putting some of that 100% equity in a home to work in an investment(s).

If I could only borrow the money at 8 or 9% then that would be a different 
story. But why wouldn't I borrow money in the 4% rate that's tax deductable 
and use the money for some safe investments that I can use for long term 
capital gains. A simple conservative S&P 500 index fund returned nearly 15% 
(14.96%) in the past 12 months. Getting money at 4% and using it for 15% 
returns is something that I'll take any day of the week.


> Real estate is an excellent investment right now as prices are low.
> It's a risk though.
> Buy in a place like NYC and you will probably make money.
> Buy in a place like South Carolina and you will probably lose or maybe
> break even.
>

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:36:52 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

> "flatfish+++" <flatfish@marianatrench.com> wrote in message 
> news:1n8oi4f3xg0p8.oyhd3og5nc44.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:57:43 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>> "Goblin" <bytes4free@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:L_Hjp.144525$P95.85850@newsfe05.ams2...
>>>> On 03/27/2011 03:27 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>> "Big Steel" <Steel@Steel.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:l8adnU3IOJHD2hLQnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>>> On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
>>>>>>> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the 
>>>>>> UK,
>>>>>> before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of
>>>>>> looking
>>>>>> like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Japan is #1, Greece is #5 and the UK is #23 in terms of having the
>>>>> highest
>>>>> debt in relation to GDP.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and I have no debt whatsoever. So Im sitting happily in my house which I
>>>> paid the mortgage off on a couple of years ago.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Many people are afraid of debt as if it were the plague or something. A
>>> couple of years ago I had no long-term debt (mortgage, car loan, etc) but
>>> re-mortgaged a portion of my house a little over a year ago. Being able 
>>> to
>>> get hordes of money at a 4.x% (tax deductible) interest rate is too good 
>>> of
>>> a deal to pass up. Putting the money into something as simple as a 
>>> no-load
>>> index fund would easily provide a nice return.
>>>
>>> Having the money just sit there locked into the net worth of a house 
>>> isn't
>>> as great of an idea as you may think.
>>
>> WRT debt, read some of Donald Trump's books.
>> He talks about stuff like that.
>>
> I've never read any of Trump's books (I probably should) but I've read 
> others. There's also two financial advisors who are close family members who 
> I occasionally discuss things like with.
> 
>> In a nutshell, you need to have debt/investment in order to make money.
>>
> Having a bunch of equity tied up in your house with zero mortgage paymennt 
> isn't doing very much with your money. For all practical purposes you might 
> as well bury the money in the back yard. With interest rates at historic 
> lows (4% range) it doesn't make financial sense to not take advantage of 
> this. There's a difference between being mortgaged to the hilt versus 
> putting some of that 100% equity in a home to work in an investment(s).

That is correct....

I bought gold, real gold coins as well as some numismatic proofs 62 and
higher, the last couple of years and with the current price I am making
a lot of money.
I didn't plan on that as it was a long term thing, but it happened.

Worst thing you can do when interest rates are low is let money sit in a
paid for house.
Tap the equity and borrow cheap money.
Buy another house. 
Just stay out of the stock market unless you have money to burn.




> If I could only borrow the money at 8 or 9% then that would be a different 
> story.

Correct.

> But why wouldn't I borrow money in the 4% rate that's tax deductable 
> and use the money for some safe investments that I can use for long term 
> capital gains. A simple conservative S&P 500 index fund returned nearly 15% 
> (14.96%) in the past 12 months. Getting money at 4% and using it for 15% 
> returns is something that I'll take any day of the week.

When I see people running up credit cards for big ticket items like
cars, appliances, vacations etc I want to cringe.

Why pay 9 percent on a credit card that's not tax deductible when you
can pay 4 percent that is tax deductible by tapping your home's equity?


 

"flatfish+++" <flatfish@marianatrench.com> wrote in message 
news:5q06ktpqxpki.1ms16cmoozdwq$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:36:52 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> "flatfish+++" <flatfish@marianatrench.com> wrote in message
>> news:1n8oi4f3xg0p8.oyhd3og5nc44.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:57:43 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Goblin" <bytes4free@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:L_Hjp.144525$P95.85850@newsfe05.ams2...
>>>>> On 03/27/2011 03:27 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>> "Big Steel" <Steel@Steel.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:l8adnU3IOJHD2hLQnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>>>> On 3/27/2011 9:50 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I celebrate preventing wasteful spending (which everyone should
>>>>>>>> regardless of income) and I celebrate freedom of CHOICE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You had better pay attention to what is happening over there in the
>>>>>>> UK,
>>>>>>> before you have the rug snatched out from under you. It's kind of
>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>> like Egypt over there, as people are getting somewhat pissed. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Japan is #1, Greece is #5 and the UK is #23 in terms of having the
>>>>>> highest
>>>>>> debt in relation to GDP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and I have no debt whatsoever. So Im sitting happily in my house which 
>>>>> I
>>>>> paid the mortgage off on a couple of years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Many people are afraid of debt as if it were the plague or something. A
>>>> couple of years ago I had no long-term debt (mortgage, car loan, etc) 
>>>> but
>>>> re-mortgaged a portion of my house a little over a year ago. Being able
>>>> to
>>>> get hordes of money at a 4.x% (tax deductible) interest rate is too 
>>>> good
>>>> of
>>>> a deal to pass up. Putting the money into something as simple as a
>>>> no-load
>>>> index fund would easily provide a nice return.
>>>>
>>>> Having the money just sit there locked into the net worth of a house
>>>> isn't
>>>> as great of an idea as you may think.
>>>
>>> WRT debt, read some of Donald Trump's books.
>>> He talks about stuff like that.
>>>
>> I've never read any of Trump's books (I probably should) but I've read
>> others. There's also two financial advisors who are close family members 
>> who
>> I occasionally discuss things like with.
>>
>>> In a nutshell, you need to have debt/investment in order to make money.
>>>
>> Having a bunch of equity tied up in your house with zero mortgage 
>> paymennt
>> isn't doing very much with your money. For all practical purposes you 
>> might
>> as well bury the money in the back yard. With interest rates at historic
>> lows (4% range) it doesn't make financial sense to not take advantage of
>> this. There's a difference between being mortgaged to the hilt versus
>> putting some of that 100% equity in a home to work in an investment(s).
>
> That is correct....
>
> I bought gold, real gold coins as well as some numismatic proofs 62 and
> higher, the last couple of years and with the current price I am making
> a lot of money.
> I didn't plan on that as it was a long term thing, but it happened.
>

I never bought gold or silver directly but during the height of the 
financial crisis (late 2008) I bought a lot of shares in a company named 
Silver Wheaton (SLW) which is a company with silver holdings. The stock 
tumbled from the mid/high teens to $4 and change so I bought a bunch. It 
then fell into the $3's so I bought more. It even hit the high $2's for a 
few days so I (nervously) bought even more.

There was nothing at all wrong with the company and the price of gold was 
climbing, the price of silver was climing and the price of copper was 
climbing. It seemed like just a matter of time until people woke up and SLW 
got back up to the prices where it belonged. And it did because 12 months 
later (long term cap-gains) I sold all of my shares ($3.60/share cost basis) 
for about $15/share.

I made a nice profit and was very happy with the returns. But in hind-sight 
I wish that I didn't sell because today SLW is in the mid $40/share range. I 
could have tripled my money yet again which would have been even sweeter.



> Worst thing you can do when interest rates are low is let money sit in a
> paid for house.
> Tap the equity and borrow cheap money.
> Buy another house.
> Just stay out of the stock market unless you have money to burn.
>

Or unless you have a good idea what you're doing. I have a full-time job so 
I don't have the time to look for and manage property. But stocks are easy 
to trade with a little free time. It's not 100% guaranteed but neither is 
real estate.


>
>
>
>> If I could only borrow the money at 8 or 9% then that would be a 
>> different
>> story.
>
> Correct.
>
>> But why wouldn't I borrow money in the 4% rate that's tax deductable
>> and use the money for some safe investments that I can use for long term
>> capital gains. A simple conservative S&P 500 index fund returned nearly 
>> 15%
>> (14.96%) in the past 12 months. Getting money at 4% and using it for 15%
>> returns is something that I'll take any day of the week.
>
> When I see people running up credit cards for big ticket items like
> cars, appliances, vacations etc I want to cringe.
>
> Why pay 9 percent on a credit card that's not tax deductible when you
> can pay 4 percent that is tax deductible by tapping your home's equity?
>

Most people wish they were paying 9% on a credit-card. I have one of those 
cash-back cards (Amex Blue Cash) so I'm actually getting paid to use my 
card. I just checked and I've been a "Member since 2003" and since then 
there has been exactly *one* month when I didn't make my monthly payment in 
full. Otherwise I pay 100% of the bill in full each month and every year on 
my anniversary date I get a cash back (credit applied towards my next bill) 
of about $1000 each year.

Sinister Midget III wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2011-03-27, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> claimed:
>> Goblin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>> 
>>> "Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
>>> freetard spill. "
>>>
>>> It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because
>>
>> Can you quote in the standard way, so I can see Big Squeal's cavillings in a
>> different color?
>
> Better yet, why not flush the Big Stool and be done with it?

Oh, that is done, but I am interested in Goblin's replies.

-- 
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save myself.
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On 3/27/2011 5:53 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Sinister Midget III wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2011-03-27, Chris Ahlstrom<ahlstromc@xzoozy.com>  claimed:
>>> Goblin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> "Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
>>>> freetard spill. "
>>>>
>>>> It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because
>>>
>>> Can you quote in the standard way, so I can see Big Squeal's cavillings in a
>>> different color?
>>
>> Better yet, why not flush the Big Stool and be done with it?
>
> Oh, that is done, but I am interested in Goblin's replies.
>

Goblin has no reply you clown.

On 03/27/2011 06:04 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:51:10 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
> 
>> On 3/27/2011 11:23 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Goblin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> "Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
>>>> freetard spill. "
>>>>
>>>> It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because
>>>
>>> Can you quote in the standard way, so I can see Big Squeal's cavillings in a
>>> different color?
>>>
>>
>> Fuck you, you phony and a hypocrite using MS solutions to make your 
>> two-bit living. When you get a job using Linux, make a living using 
>> Linux, and collecting a paycheck using Linux you hypocrite bum, then and 
>> only then can your run your damn mouth. You are never going to get a job 
>> using Linux, and a clown and a bum like you is lucky to have a job in IT 
>> or programming -- period. A hypocrite like you belongs nowhere.
>>
>> Sad part about your dumbass is that you are an American, you pos.
>>
>> And Goblin, if you are reading this, this what I am talking about with 
>> COLA chicken-shit regulars acting like trolls. Ahlstrom is one of the 
>> main phony clowns. If you can defend a clown like him and his actions, 
>> then you were talking nonsense about the MS users acting the same in 
>> this NG.
> 
> Yea, that's Ahlstrom to a tee....
> Sad actually.
> 
> Both you and DFS kicked Goblin to the curb, and how....
> 
> He's a time waster with an agenda. Protecting his master Roy.
> I'm surprised we don't see twatter, Tessier, Oiaohm and the rest of the
> can of nuts over here infesting the place.

lol.

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On 03/27/2011 04:51 PM, Big Steel wrote:
> And Goblin, if you are reading this, this what I am talking about with
> COLA chicken-shit regulars acting like trolls. Ahlstrom is one of the
> main phony clowns. If you can defend a clown like him and his actions,
> then you were talking nonsense about the MS users acting the same in
> this NG.

Yes I am reading this.  Ive been reading this newsgroup for a long time.
 This thread is no exception.

"If you can defend" If I can defend? What exactly is the allegation here
Flatfish? If its something Ive personal knowledge of then I can give you
an answer as to if I would defend him.

Putting aside circumstances when I have personal knowledge about an
allegation, I defend nobody but myself.  I have repeatedly asked you
what it is that Ive done that would attract the "wrath" of you.  I would
appreciate an answer.

Now I will go off on my traditional waffle, I warn you now so that you
don't have to read it...........

You cannot label me with any of your titles because to do so would be a
lie.  I don't have a complete FOSS lifestyle nor have I an immediate
intention to have one.  I don't hate large companies/successful products
infact I champion them. I have been very critical of Sony and its
Rootkey aggression, yet I praise the PS3 because for my family its a
damn fine piece of kit.  I have no particular feeling about Apple, but
praise the Mac after seeing how well my wife gets on with it.  I am
critical of Google and its "kill switch" for rogue android apps as I
think its the start of a very worrying future for an alleged "open
platform" yet I champion Google services such as Docs (and until its
alleged demise) Wave.

And I hope you will allow me to make a few final points:

My "full-time" coding hobby was left in the 90's on the A500 and whilst
I do enjoy a little tinker now and then, could not think of anything
worse than being stuck behind a computer screen 9-5 which is why I have
no rage or agenda to push on anything IT related - I have opinion, you
may agree, you may not. I don't particularly care, I do though like to
engage in sensible debate.  I did my coding time (and probably more than
my share of that) during my university days.

I stand alone.  I don't align myself with any group.   Want to challenge
my view? Fine, just don't drag others into a challenge against me.  I
stand by everything I say and I'm not here to be legal aid to any 3rd
party you decide to bring into conversation with me.

One last thing. You mention DFS kicking me to the curb, want to show
where that was? I must have missed that post and since I only mention
Roy when others like yourself bring him up, how about nobody mentions
Roy then there can be no room for any accusations?

-- 

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"Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui."

Mail: bytes4free@googlemail.com
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On 3/27/2011 8:06 PM, Goblin wrote:
> On 03/27/2011 04:51 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>> And Goblin, if you are reading this, this what I am talking about with
>> COLA chicken-shit regulars acting like trolls. Ahlstrom is one of the
>> main phony clowns. If you can defend a clown like him and his actions,
>> then you were talking nonsense about the MS users acting the same in
>> this NG.
>
> Yes I am reading this.  Ive been reading this newsgroup for a long time.
>   This thread is no exception.

I have noticed that those that I consider loons do this.  Let me ask you 
this, do you read all the posts in all the threads? :)
>
> "If you can defend" If I can defend? What exactly is the allegation here
> Flatfish?

Flatfish? Who are you calling Flatfish -- home user clown? I showed you 
what little respect that I can give someone like you, a dime a dozen 
home user self-righteous clown using a computer. And you start some name 
calling? You go to hell. You ram Linux and anything else you believe in 
up your ass on choke on it.

<snipped the rest of your junk I am not interested in>

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:04:53 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:


> I made a nice profit and was very happy with the returns. But in hind-sight 
> I wish that I didn't sell because today SLW is in the mid $40/share range. I 
> could have tripled my money yet again which would have been even sweeter.
> 

I bought physical gold because I do believe the USA money system is in
danger of collapsing at some point.
The signs are there and the fact that the govt wants to start regulating
small gold sales, like mine, is troublesome.

I have it in a bank vault, fully insured, but I'll bury it in the
backyard if it comes down to it.
 

> Or unless you have a good idea what you're doing. I have a full-time job so 
> I don't have the time to look for and manage property. But stocks are easy 
> to trade with a little free time. It's not 100% guaranteed but neither is 
> real estate.

During the 1989 stock market crash I was working in NYC and I used to
ride in cabs driven by stock brokers moonlighting or who were laid off.
The market is too risky for the small fry.

Real estate is a sweat equity thing.
It requires a lot of care and feeding but if you buy right, treat your
tenants fairly and sell at the appropriate time, with a little luck you
can do real well.

Initially I tried to manage my first property by myself and it was a
disaster.
I learned to hire a good property manager and it's been mostly smooth
sailing. Aside from my own house, I only have one property left and that
is a small commercial property and the tenants are wonderful people.
 

> Most people wish they were paying 9% on a credit-card. I have one of those 
> cash-back cards (Amex Blue Cash) so I'm actually getting paid to use my 
> card. I just checked and I've been a "Member since 2003" and since then 
> there has been exactly *one* month when I didn't make my monthly payment in 
> full. Otherwise I pay 100% of the bill in full each month and every year on 
> my anniversary date I get a cash back (credit applied towards my next bill) 
> of about $1000 each year.

Ain't that a pip?
The interest rates banks pay is around 1 percent or so yet I get credit
card "offers" everyday with 14 percent rates!
Between that and the ATM fees the banks are getting rich.

It's really legalized stealing.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 20:30:49 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/27/2011 8:06 PM, Goblin wrote:
>> On 03/27/2011 04:51 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>> And Goblin, if you are reading this, this what I am talking about with
>>> COLA chicken-shit regulars acting like trolls. Ahlstrom is one of the
>>> main phony clowns. If you can defend a clown like him and his actions,
>>> then you were talking nonsense about the MS users acting the same in
>>> this NG.
>>
>> Yes I am reading this.  Ive been reading this newsgroup for a long time.
>>   This thread is no exception.
> 
> I have noticed that those that I consider loons do this.  Let me ask you 
> this, do you read all the posts in all the threads? :)
>>
>> "If you can defend" If I can defend? What exactly is the allegation here
>> Flatfish?
> 
> Flatfish? Who are you calling Flatfish -- home user clown? I showed you 
> what little respect that I can give someone like you, a dime a dozen 
> home user self-righteous clown using a computer. And you start some name 
> calling? You go to hell. You ram Linux and anything else you believe in 
> up your ass on choke on it.
> 
> <snipped the rest of your junk I am not interested in>

Don't get sucked in by Goblin's little game.
He appears here once in a while and pulls that sugary, supercilious "I'm
just trying to understand where you trolls are coming from" crap.

Then he snips the parts of your reply that stick it to him and creates
some long winded meta thread that will never end.

He is also very thin skinned and while he likes to dish it out, in his
own sugary way, he can't take it.

Best to ignore him once you have said your piece.

In message <imndun$96g$1@dont-email.me>, Ezekiel wrote:

> "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote in message
> news:immpdh$svs$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>
>> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.
> 
> Idiot.

<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/installing-32-bit-ie-9-on-64-bit-windows/802>

Who’s the idiot now?

On 3/27/2011 10:29 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message<imndun$96g$1@dont-email.me>, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> "Lawrence D'Oliveiro"<ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand>  wrote in message
>> news:immpdh$svs$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>
>>> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.
>>
>> Idiot.
>
> <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/installing-32-bit-ie-9-on-64-bit-windows/802>
>
> Who’s the idiot now?

You really are some kind of a nut. Someone else made a post about you 
loosing your mentally abilities -- Olive Oil. You seem to be backing 
that up.

On 3/27/2011 10:29 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message<imndun$96g$1@dont-email.me>, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> "Lawrence D'Oliveiro"<ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand>  wrote in message
>> news:immpdh$svs$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>
>>> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.
>>
>> Idiot.
>
> <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/installing-32-bit-ie-9-on-64-bit-windows/802>
>
> Who’s the idiot now?

You are you idiot.

<http://4sysops.com/archives/internet-explorer-9-64-bit-vs-32-bit-part-4-speed/>

FavBrowser.com ran some speed benchmarks with the latest version of IE 9 
32-bit and 64-bit. The results are quite remarkable. In most of the 
disciplines, IE 9 64-bit outpaced IE 9 32-bit by far. The same guys ran 
a comparable test with IE 7 64-bit and 32-bit a while back. The results 
are similar, although it appears to me the performance difference 
between 64-bit and 32-bit has become bigger with IE 9.

On 3/27/2011 10:18 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 20:30:49 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2011 8:06 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>> On 03/27/2011 04:51 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>> And Goblin, if you are reading this, this what I am talking about with
>>>> COLA chicken-shit regulars acting like trolls. Ahlstrom is one of the
>>>> main phony clowns. If you can defend a clown like him and his actions,
>>>> then you were talking nonsense about the MS users acting the same in
>>>> this NG.
>>>
>>> Yes I am reading this.  Ive been reading this newsgroup for a long time.
>>>    This thread is no exception.
>>
>> I have noticed that those that I consider loons do this.  Let me ask you
>> this, do you read all the posts in all the threads? :)
>>>
>>> "If you can defend" If I can defend? What exactly is the allegation here
>>> Flatfish?
>>
>> Flatfish? Who are you calling Flatfish -- home user clown? I showed you
>> what little respect that I can give someone like you, a dime a dozen
>> home user self-righteous clown using a computer. And you start some name
>> calling? You go to hell. You ram Linux and anything else you believe in
>> up your ass on choke on it.
>>
>> <snipped the rest of your junk I am not interested in>
>
> Don't get sucked in by Goblin's little game.
> He appears here once in a while and pulls that sugary, supercilious "I'm
> just trying to understand where you trolls are coming from" crap.
>
> Then he snips the parts of your reply that stick it to him and creates
> some long winded meta thread that will never end.
>
> He is also very thin skinned and while he likes to dish it out, in his
> own sugary way, he can't take it.
>
> Best to ignore him once you have said your piece.

Yeah he is boring and he is nothing. I have encountered Turkey Goblin 
before the dumbass home user. Can you believe Ahlstrom the idiot and so 
called IT professional hanging on that clown's every word? :) Ahlstrom 
is totally messed up looking for a hero, and he'll kiss a nat's behind 
if he thought the nat could be his hero.

In message <C6adncmwBJ6cng3QnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/27/2011 10:29 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message<imndun$96g$1@dont-email.me>, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>> "Lawrence D'Oliveiro"<ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand>  wrote in
>>> message news:immpdh$svs$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>
>>>> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.
>>>
>>> Idiot.
>>
>> <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/installing-32-bit-ie-9-on-64-bit-windows/802>
>>
>> Who’s the idiot now?
> 
> FavBrowser.com ...

.... is outvoted:

<http://www.softblogger.net/64-bit-web-browser-speed-test/>
<http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/939372-64bit-ie9-javascript-slower-than-32bit/>

Again: who’s the idiot now?

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> In message <imndun$96g$1@dont-email.me>, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote in message
>> news:immpdh$svs$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>
>>> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.
>> 
>> Idiot.
>
> <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/installing-32-bit-ie-9-on-64-bit-windows/802>
>
> Who???s the idiot now?

   Since I've written about how much faster 32-bit Internet Explorer
   (IE) 9 is than 64-bit IE 9, and all other browsers, on Windows 7,
   I've been buried by people running 64-bit Windows, and one poor soul
   who was still running 64-bit Vista, wanting to know how to install 32-bit
   IE 9 on their 64-bit Windows 7 systems. It's actually both quite easy
   and a bit confusing, so here's how to do it and a little of the back
   story.

Well, I guess that explains why certain trolls here were denigrating 64-bit
software.  I don't get it.  Microsoft punts on the size of long integers and
still they can't get the 64-bit versions right.

The article above goes onto to describe how to have to install the 64-bit
version in order to be able to install the faster 32-bit version.  Even
more gob-smacking:

   So, what's going on here? Why did Microsoft do this? That's a
   good question. In fact, if you look closely at your network setting,
   you'll find you can't even make IE 64-bit your default Web
   browser even if you wanted to!

   As Eric Law of Microsoft explained a while back, "This was an
   explicit choice made by the IE team, which may change at some point in
   the future. The problem is that users might inadvertently get
   "stuck" using the 64bit version and not realize it. This might
   cause some problems."

Ay yi yi!

-- 
Hacker's Law:
	The belief that enhanced understanding will necessarily stir
	a nation to action is one of mankind's oldest illusions.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> In message <C6adncmwBJ6cng3QnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Big Steel wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2011 10:29 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> In message<imndun$96g$1@dont-email.me>, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Lawrence D'Oliveiro"<ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand>  wrote in
>>>> message news:immpdh$svs$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>
>>>>> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.
>>>>
>>>> Idiot.
>>>
>>> <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/installing-32-bit-ie-9-on-64-bit-windows/802>
>>>
>>> Who???s the idiot now?
>> 
>> FavBrowser.com ...
>
> ... is outvoted:
>
> <http://www.softblogger.net/64-bit-web-browser-speed-test/>
> <http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/939372-64bit-ie9-javascript-slower-than-32bit/>
>
> Again: who???s the idiot now?

I had thought Microsoft was starting to catch up with Linux in 64-bit
support.  But a surprising number of apps still remain 32-bit.  Here's more
about IE 9:

   http://4sysops.com/archives/internet-explorer-9-64-bit-vs-32-bit-part-3-reliability/

   In my last post, I explained why running Internet Explorer 9 64-bit has
   some severe downsides. 

What are they?

   1. Can't use IE 9/64 as the default browser.
   2. Poor compatibility for ActiveX, Silverlight, extensions (such as the
      Bing toolbar) and SharePoint 2010.
   3. Slower browsing in some contexts.

-- 
The proof that IBM didn't invent the car is that it has a steering wheel
and an accelerator instead of spurs and ropes, to be compatible with a horse.
		-- Jac Goudsmit

Ezekiel wrote:

>Many people are afraid of debt as if it were the plague or something. A 
>couple of years ago I had no long-term debt (mortgage, car loan, etc) but 
>re-mortgaged a portion of my house a little over a year ago. Being able to 
>get hordes of money at a 4.x% (tax deductible) interest rate is too good of 
>a deal to pass up. Putting the money into something as simple as a no-load 
>index fund would easily provide a nice return.

Yeah, good luck getting a consistent 4% return in your "no load index
fund".  Especially after taxes.  A lot of people would *love* to find
a solid 4% investment.  I know of none.  The stock market sure ain't
it.

Ezekiel wrote:

>They're hypocrites *not* because they do this. If this is all they did then 
>I wouldn't have a problem with it. But these same people *crucify* notable 
>OSS developers/managers for not living up to their lofty OSS ideals.

he group's biggest hypocrite again falsely attacking us for
"hypocrisy"...

You are lying again, "Ezekiel".  I've seen no such evidence of any
such "hypocrisy".  I've seen only one person here be really hard on de
Icaza.

As a group we don't even have "lofty OSS ideals".  

We appreciate the freedom and efficiency that FOSS affords.  We
believe it a superior solution when compared to the greed-driven model
of the Micro$oft Corp.  We like having choices.

None of the above is "lofty".  It's being intelligent and informed.

We don't want FOSS undermined by FUD and dirty-dealing.  Micro$oft
*is* the enemy of Free software.  There is *zero* requirement to be
"pure and perfect" to object to their monopolizing machinations.  

You lying *asshole*.

mentally ill piece of shit "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
news:r201p6dsufgm3iqjetl0o7p2a011i6mnb6@4ax.com...


more documented lies from the stupid asshole named "chrisv."

"chrisv" is a liar. "chrisv" is a worthless piece of shit.

useless turd "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
news:bi01p6p2lfmms76fqesskmsit6lda2vp2b@4ax.com...

more documented lies from the mentally ill piece of shit.

"chrisv" is a liar. "chrisv" is a mentally ill piece of shit.

On 3/28/2011 2:10 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message<C6adncmwBJ6cng3QnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Big Steel wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2011 10:29 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> In message<imndun$96g$1@dont-email.me>, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Lawrence D'Oliveiro"<ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand>   wrote in
>>>> message news:immpdh$svs$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>
>>>>> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.
>>>>
>>>> Idiot.
>>>
>>> <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/installing-32-bit-ie-9-on-64-bit-windows/802>
>>>
>>> Who’s the idiot now?
>>
>> FavBrowser.com ...
>
> ... is outvoted:

You and your comments don't  mean jack Olive Oil, you idiot home user 
and shit for brains.

Verily I say unto thee, that Little Steely spake thusly:

> Fuck you, you phony and a hypocrite using MS solutions to make your
> two-bit living. When you get a job using Linux, make a living using
> Linux, and collecting a paycheck using Linux you hypocrite bum, then
> and only then can your run your damn mouth. You are never going to get
> a job using Linux, and a clown and a bum like you is lucky to have a
> job in IT or programming -- period. A hypocrite like you belongs
> nowhere.

Microsoft must be proud to have its unethical business defended in such
an articulate and eloquent manner, by such a dedicated shill. Well I
suppose that's one way to collect a two-bit living, to supplement your
part-time burger-flipping income.

> Sad part about your dumbass is that you are an American, you pos.

So are Linux shops like Google, Red Hat and (50% of) NYSE Euronext. You
ought to think about that next time you go Red-baiting with American
"patriotism" propaganda.

Incidentally, I see NYSE Euronext are hiring Linux developers in my area
again. Maybe even /you/ could apply, although you might need to graduate
from junior school first.

-- 
K.                           | "Do you have a dot on your head
http://slated.org            |  and are you based in Bangalore?"
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on sky   |  ~ flatfish+++ the racist scum.
kernel 2.6.31.5, up 41 days  | http://tinyurl.com/flattyracistscum

On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:15:29 -0400, Steel wrote:


> Yeah he is boring and he is nothing. I have encountered Turkey Goblin 
> before the dumbass home user. Can you believe Ahlstrom the idiot and so 
> called IT professional hanging on that clown's every word? :) Ahlstrom 
> is totally messed up looking for a hero, and he'll kiss a nat's behind 
> if he thought the nat could be his hero.

Ahlstrom hasn't been the same since his master Roy left the group.
He is truly a Liarmutt in search of a new master.
He's tried a few but can't seem to jibe with any of the group.

I suspect they don't want him sniffing their asses.

On 3/28/2011 11:38 AM, Homer wrote:
> Verily I say unto thee, that Little Steely spake thusly:
>
>> Fuck you, you phony and a hypocrite using MS solutions to make your
>> two-bit living. When you get a job using Linux, make a living using
>> Linux, and collecting a paycheck using Linux you hypocrite bum, then
>> and only then can your run your damn mouth. You are never going to get
>> a job using Linux, and a clown and a bum like you is lucky to have a
>> job in IT or programming -- period. A hypocrite like you belongs
>> nowhere.
>
> Microsoft must be proud to have its unethical business defended in such
> an articulate and eloquent manner, by such a dedicated shill. Well I
> suppose that's one way to collect a two-bit living, to supplement your
> part-time burger-flipping income.
>
>> Sad part about your dumbass is that you are an American, you pos.
>
> So are Linux shops like Google, Red Hat and (50% of) NYSE Euronext. You
> ought to think about that next time you go Red-baiting with American
> "patriotism" propaganda.

Bullshit,  they are not American companies when those companies hide 
their money in Switzerland to advoid paying the 35% on taxes, saying 
that their corporate headquarters  are oversee therefor they are 
exempted. In the meantime, the workers are here in America being taxed 
to death while the company they work for get a free ride.
>
> Incidentally, I see NYSE Euronext are hiring Linux developers in my area
> again. Maybe even /you/ could apply, although you might need to graduate
> from junior school first.

You suck a bull's dick. You graduate to that Homer Simpleton. I don't 
give a rat's ass as to what is happening in Europe. If I had may way, my 
thumb print would be all over the "launch nuclear missiles button", on 
their way to Europe.

On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:38:55 +0100, Homer wrote:


> Incidentally, I see NYSE Euronext are hiring Linux developers in my area
> again. Maybe even /you/ could apply, although you might need to graduate
> from junior school first.

Judging from the picture of your house that someone else posted,
[Homer], your area doesn't appear to have electricity or indoor
plumbing.

No surprise.

On 3/28/2011 12:22 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:38:55 +0100, Homer wrote:
>
>
>> Incidentally, I see NYSE Euronext are hiring Linux developers in my area
>> again. Maybe even /you/ could apply, although you might need to graduate
>> from junior school first.
>
> Judging from the picture of your house that someone else posted,
> [Homer], your area doesn't appear to have electricity or indoor
> plumbing.
>
> No surprise.

On his Linux powered taco firer at the Taco Bell Europe division where 
he works, he is lucky he makes enough money to take a taco home to eat it.

He should be getting free tacos.

"Chris Ahlstrom" <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> schreef in bericht 
news:imoblj$p7u$1@dont-email.me...
> Sinister Midget III wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2011-03-27, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> claimed:
>>> Goblin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> "Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
>>>> freetard spill. "
>>>>
>>>> It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because
>>>
>>> Can you quote in the standard way, so I can see Big Squeal's cavillings 
>>> in a
>>> different color?
>>
>> Better yet, why not flush the Big Stool and be done with it?
>
> Oh, that is done, but I am interested in Goblin's replies.

suck, suck!
>
Ahlstrom is one of the main phony COLA clowns, Ahlstrom (suck, suck) found 
himself a new master: Goblin. 

On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:57:53 +0200, Clog_-_wog (�) wrote:

> "Chris Ahlstrom" <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> schreef in bericht 
> news:imoblj$p7u$1@dont-email.me...
>> Sinister Midget III wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 2011-03-27, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> claimed:
>>>> Goblin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>
>>>>> On 03/27/2011 11:19 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> "Business is business, which is about making money. Don't give me the
>>>>> freetard spill. "
>>>>>
>>>>> It certainly isn't spill because as you say its business.  Just because
>>>>
>>>> Can you quote in the standard way, so I can see Big Squeal's cavillings 
>>>> in a
>>>> different color?
>>>
>>> Better yet, why not flush the Big Stool and be done with it?
>>
>> Oh, that is done, but I am interested in Goblin's replies.
> 
> suck, suck!
>>
> Ahlstrom is one of the main phony COLA clowns, Ahlstrom (suck, suck) found 
> himself a new master: Goblin.

Well he tried to latch on to Peter Kohlmann's leg but since Peter is
gone again after being laughed out of COLA once more, Liarmutt is
seeking a new master.

I think Goblin is perfect for Liarmutt!
After all, Goblin is nothing more than a Schestowitz clone.
Defective right from the molding process.

For Liarmutt it will be just like old times when Roy was his master.

Big Steel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

>

Har har har har har

-- 
A nasty looking dwarf throws a knife at you.

Homer wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Verily I say unto thee, that Little Steely spake thusly:
>
>> <pig squealing snipped>
>
> Microsoft must be proud to have its unethical business defended in such
> an articulate and eloquent manner, by such a dedicated shill. Well I
> suppose that's one way to collect a two-bit living, to supplement your
> part-time burger-flipping income.

He's just a kid.  Cut him some slack.  :-D

-- 
<Overfiend> Don't come crying to me about your "30 minute compiles"!!  I
            have to build X uphill both ways!  In the snow!  With bare
            feet! And we didn't have compilers!  We had to translate the
            C code to mnemonics OURSELVES!
<Overfiend> And I was 18 before we even had assemblers!

On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:56:36 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Big Steel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>>
> 
> Har har har har har

What a maroooon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo

On 3/28/2011 2:56 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Big Steel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>>
>
> Har har har har har
>

Idiot Idiot Idiot Idiot

On 03/28/2011 01:30 AM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 3/27/2011 8:06 PM, Goblin wrote:
>> On 03/27/2011 04:51 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>> And Goblin, if you are reading this, this what I am talking about with
>>> COLA chicken-shit regulars acting like trolls. Ahlstrom is one of the
>>> main phony clowns. If you can defend a clown like him and his actions,
>>> then you were talking nonsense about the MS users acting the same in
>>> this NG.
>>
>> Yes I am reading this.  Ive been reading this newsgroup for a long time.
>>   This thread is no exception.
> 
> I have noticed that those that I consider loons do this.  Let me ask you
> this, do you read all the posts in all the threads? :)
>>
>> "If you can defend" If I can defend? What exactly is the allegation here
>> Flatfish?
> 
> Flatfish? Who are you calling Flatfish -- home user clown? I showed you
> what little respect that I can give someone like you, a dime a dozen
> home user self-righteous clown using a computer. And you start some name
> calling? You go to hell. You ram Linux and anything else you believe in
> up your ass on choke on it.
> 
> <snipped the rest of your junk I am not interested in>

I'll answer the one of your later points first.  Who am I calling
Flatfish?  er...The user that posts here and goes by the name
Flatfish...please try to keep up.

Right, on with the merriment.

"I have noticed that those that I consider loons do this."

So you read alot of the posts too?  Yes I read COLA, its a fantastic
tools and an excellent source to cite when I am writing about the
tactics used to try to squash an opinion contrary to Microsoft.  Thanks,
I might use some of your material too.

"the rest of your junk I am not interested"

Good effort.



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On 3/28/2011 2:58 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Homer wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Verily I say unto thee, that Little Steely spake thusly:
>>
>>> <pig squealing snipped>
>>
>> Microsoft must be proud to have its unethical business defended in such
>> an articulate and eloquent manner, by such a dedicated shill. Well I
>> suppose that's one way to collect a two-bit living, to supplement your
>> part-time burger-flipping income.
>
> He's just a kid.  Cut him some slack.  :-D
>

He is just a mama's little pussy doing his 3rd party butt kiss routine.

On 03/28/2011 03:18 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> Don't get sucked in by Goblin's little game.
> He appears here once in a while and pulls that sugary, supercilious "I'm
> just trying to understand where you trolls are coming from" crap.
> 
> Then he snips the parts of your reply that stick it to him and creates
> some long winded meta thread that will never end.

lol.

Hang on, I thought it was claimed by DFS et al that it was me being
"rope a doped"?

Good effort.

"in his own sugary way, he can't take it."

Yes I can.  Infact I use self-degradation as a method to take the sting
out of any silly little game you try to play.

I am a fish. - See?

You forget Flatfish Ive run rings around you before and you never even
noticed.

"Best to ignore him once you have said your piece."

Bingo! The penny has dropped.  You took your time and I think I deserve
an award for the person who manages to get a troll to ignore them.

When is this ignoring taking place Flatfish? Now you've realized or at
some time in the future?

Heres a tip for you flatfish, since you live in a world of childish
antics, once your teddy has been thrown in the corner, you can put your
fingers in your ears and hum really loudly.....its the best way to
ignore.  In the meantime you will provide plenty of material to quote
because you can't help yourself.  It may not be with me, but it will
certainly be in this group.

Flatfish, you and others have been so helpful highlighting what sort of
"advocacy" Microsoft receives.

Thank you.  Hopefully your ignore will only last a few months.  I'll be
back and talking to you again and in the meantime will be speaking with
one of your many sockpuppets.

And to DFS - Feel free to "rope a dope" me anytime....you are always
welcome.

All the best.


Goblin.


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Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:

> --
> A nasty looking dwarf throws a knife at you.

# use mirror on dwarf

The nasty looking dwarf sees his reflection in the mirror, and collapses
in horror, gasping for air and thrashing on the ground. He dies uttering
something unintelligible.

A portal appears.

Would you like to enter the portal? (y/n) #

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On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:19:12 +0100, Homer wrote:

> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
> 
>> --
>> A nasty looking dwarf throws a knife at you.
> 
> # use mirror on dwarf

Show him a Linux cd and watch him head for the hills.

On 3/28/2011 3:19 PM, Homer wrote:
> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>
>> --
>> A nasty looking dwarf throws a knife at you.
>
> # use mirror on dwarf
>
> The nasty looking dwarf sees his reflection in the mirror, and collapses
> in horror, gasping for air and thrashing on the ground. He dies uttering
> something unintelligible.
>
> A portal appears.
>
> Would you like to enter the portal? (y/n) #
>

You go first Homer Simpleton followed by Ahlstrom with a lip lock on 
your behind.

On 3/28/2011 3:27 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:19:12 +0100, Homer wrote:
>
>> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>>
>>> --
>>> A nasty looking dwarf throws a knife at you.
>>
>> # use mirror on dwarf
>
> Show him a Linux cd and watch him head for the hills.

The guy is an idiot. This overseas clown is talking about Google like 
it's on the up and up and a ethical company, when that back stabbing pos 
company was shown on 60 Minutes to not give a shit about America along 
with many other US based companies protecting their money.

60 minutes didn't mention MS. It sure mentioned Google.

On 3/28/2011 3:05 PM, Goblin wrote:

<snipped>


You are not worth anything but lip-service and running your mouth silly 
home user.

Take a trip to Japan and stand next to one of those nuclear reactors for 
a while make yourself useful.

On 03/28/2011 09:21 PM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 3/28/2011 3:05 PM, Goblin wrote:
> 
> <snipped>
> 
> 
> You are not worth anything but lip-service and running your mouth silly
> home user.
> 
> Take a trip to Japan and stand next to one of those nuclear reactors for
> a while make yourself useful.

Creative. Well done.  Bring up a disaster which has recently occurred
and caused much suffering for people and try to make an insult out of
it.  You must be really proud of yourself.

I thought my "parent mode" was only for Flatfish, it seems you need to
be challenged for your behaviour too.

What experience do you claim then? Wheres your web-presence?  I would
bet I am far better qualified than you (unless you can prove otherwise)
But you won't, it will always be the claim from people like you that you
are so great.

If I was a president you would be the Commander of the entire Solar
System.  Nobody can be better qualified than you can they because you
will always claim to be one better....of course without any proof.

Prove me wrong, lets see what you've been up to.  Show us your Web
Presence or what you have done.


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On 3/28/2011 4:27 PM, Goblin wrote:

<snipped>

So, you are going act a fool and continue to lip-service me on your 
lip-service I am not even reading.

You are a real piece of work.

On 03/28/2011 09:40 PM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 3/28/2011 4:27 PM, Goblin wrote:
> 
> <snipped>
> 
> So, you are going act a fool and continue to lip-service me on your
> lip-service I am not even reading.
> 
> You are a real piece of work.
lol.  Another troll that ignores me.

You said the words I merely responded to you.  People can check back
over the thread themselves.  Thanks for the quote though.

When do I get an award?  Who needs to killfile the trolls when merely
highlighting their bad behaviour gets them to ignore you!

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On 3/28/2011 3:16 PM, Goblin wrote:

> And to DFS - Feel free to "rope a dope" me anytime....you are always
> welcome.


I've never once said that to you, bozo.

On 03/28/2011 10:58 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 3/28/2011 3:16 PM, Goblin wrote:
> 
>> And to DFS - Feel free to "rope a dope" me anytime....you are always
>> welcome.
> 
> 
> I've never once said that to you, bozo.
No?

Are you absolutely sure?

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On 3/28/2011 12:18 PM, Big Steel wrote:


> If I had may way, my
> thumb print would be all over the "launch nuclear missiles button", on
> their way to Europe.


Sure [H]ypocrite is a slimy dirtbag, but that's simply a ridiculous 
statement.

On 03/28/2011 11:36 PM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 3/28/2011 5:02 PM, Goblin wrote:
> 
> <clown>

Ok Big Steel.  You make an insult out of the disaster in Japan and I'm a
clown.  Ok.

What does that make you?

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On 03/28/2011 11:38 PM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 3/28/2011 5:58 PM, DFS wrote:
>> On 3/28/2011 3:16 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>
>>> And to DFS - Feel free to "rope a dope" me anytime....you are always
>>> welcome.
>>
>>
>> I've never once said that to you, bozo.
> 
> What's wrong with that clown? He comes here and his crazy ass starts
> going off the deep-end. :)
Like I say, you make an insult out of the disaster in Japan and Im the
clown.  Read back in one of my recent threads with DFS, I do remind him
of the conversation we had a few months back.

Crazy ass? What by staying polite? By challenging the insult you made
about Japan. Crazy because unlike you trolls I don't use foul language?  Ok.

Tell you what Big Steel, maybe you would like to make a few more comments?

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On 3/28/2011 5:02 PM, Goblin wrote:

<clown>

On 3/28/2011 5:58 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 3/28/2011 3:16 PM, Goblin wrote:
>
>> And to DFS - Feel free to "rope a dope" me anytime....you are always
>> welcome.
>
>
> I've never once said that to you, bozo.

What's wrong with that clown? He comes here and his crazy ass starts 
going off the deep-end. :)

On 03/28/2011 11:47 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 3/28/2011 6:32 PM, Goblin wrote:
>> On 03/28/2011 11:36 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>> On 3/28/2011 5:02 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>
>>> <clown>
>>
>> Ok Big Steel.  You make an insult out of the disaster in Japan and I'm a
>> clown.  Ok.
>>
>> What does that make you?
> 
> In no way did he insult Japan or the disaster.  He was asking you to do
> a public service.
> 
> Maybe he forgot to say Please...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
Ok.

So you see no problem with what he said. Thanks.  That says alot.

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On 3/28/2011 6:32 PM, Goblin wrote:
> On 03/28/2011 11:36 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>> On 3/28/2011 5:02 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>
>> <clown>
>
> Ok Big Steel.  You make an insult out of the disaster in Japan and I'm a
> clown.  Ok.
>
> What does that make you?

In no way did he insult Japan or the disaster.  He was asking you to do 
a public service.

Maybe he forgot to say Please...

On 3/28/2011 6:47 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 3/28/2011 6:32 PM, Goblin wrote:
>> On 03/28/2011 11:36 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>> On 3/28/2011 5:02 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>
>>> <clown>
>>
>> Ok Big Steel. You make an insult out of the disaster in Japan and I'm a
>> clown. Ok.
>>
>> What does that make you?
>
> In no way did he insult Japan or the disaster. He was asking you to do a
> public service.
>
> Maybe he forgot to say Please...
>

Yeah, he should give us a first hand report. He is running his mouth 
about everything else under the Sun. Maybe he can do something that will 
benefit man kind, and he can crawl away towards the Sun and disappear. :)

On 3/28/2011 6:44 PM, Goblin wrote:
> On 03/28/2011 11:47 PM, DFS wrote:
>> On 3/28/2011 6:32 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>> On 03/28/2011 11:36 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>> On 3/28/2011 5:02 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <clown>
>>>
>>> Ok Big Steel.  You make an insult out of the disaster in Japan and I'm a
>>> clown.  Ok.
>>>
>>> What does that make you?
>>
>> In no way did he insult Japan or the disaster.  He was asking you to do
>> a public service.
>>
>> Maybe he forgot to say Please...
>>
> Ok.
>
> So you see no problem with what he said. Thanks.  That says alot.


I see a problem with you lying and saying he insulted Japan, but that's 
it.  What he said was:

"Take a trip to Japan and stand next to one of those nuclear reactors 
for a while make yourself useful."

What's the problem?  You might lose a few clumps of hair, but you have a 
big cowboy hat to cover it up...


You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining 
about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing death 
and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.

On 3/28/2011 7:07 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 3/28/2011 6:44 PM, Goblin wrote:
>> On 03/28/2011 11:47 PM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 3/28/2011 6:32 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>> On 03/28/2011 11:36 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>> On 3/28/2011 5:02 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <clown>
>>>>
>>>> Ok Big Steel. You make an insult out of the disaster in Japan and I'm a
>>>> clown. Ok.
>>>>
>>>> What does that make you?
>>>
>>> In no way did he insult Japan or the disaster. He was asking you to do
>>> a public service.
>>>
>>> Maybe he forgot to say Please...
>>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> So you see no problem with what he said. Thanks. That says alot.
>
>
> I see a problem with you lying and saying he insulted Japan, but that's
> it. What he said was:
>
> "Take a trip to Japan and stand next to one of those nuclear reactors
> for a while make yourself useful."
>
> What's the problem? You might lose a few clumps of hair, but you have a
> big cowboy hat to cover it up...
>
>
> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing death
> and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>

I directed the shot directly at that lame brain he is a Linux Jesus 
clown. He needs to be strung-up he is so sugar sweet sicking. :)

On 03/29/2011 12:07 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 3/28/2011 6:44 PM, Goblin wrote:
>> On 03/28/2011 11:47 PM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 3/28/2011 6:32 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>> On 03/28/2011 11:36 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>> On 3/28/2011 5:02 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <clown>
>>>>
>>>> Ok Big Steel.  You make an insult out of the disaster in Japan and
>>>> I'm a
>>>> clown.  Ok.
>>>>
>>>> What does that make you?
>>>
>>> In no way did he insult Japan or the disaster.  He was asking you to do
>>> a public service.
>>>
>>> Maybe he forgot to say Please...
>>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> So you see no problem with what he said. Thanks.  That says alot.
> 
> 
> I see a problem with you lying and saying he insulted Japan, but that's
> it.  What he said was:
> 
> "Take a trip to Japan and stand next to one of those nuclear reactors
> for a while make yourself useful."
> 
> What's the problem?  You might lose a few clumps of hair, but you have a
> big cowboy hat to cover it up...
> 
> 
> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing death
> and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
> 
And theres been thousands of things which you've said which Ive never
challenged either.  Unlike you there is life for me outside COLA.

How about you link to the "cancer" comments now and I'll challenge them.
 It may make you feel better.  I didn't see them first time
around....how long ago are we talking about DFS?



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Goblin wrote:
> DFS wrote:
>
>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing
>> death and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.

Really? Still suffering from delutions of grandeur, I see. You're not that
important.

> And theres been thousands of things which you've said which Ive never
> challenged either.  Unlike you there is life for me outside COLA.
> 
> How about you link to the "cancer" comments now and I'll challenge them.
> It may make you feel better.  I didn't see them first time around....how
> long ago are we talking about DFS?

Don't set your expectations too high. Keep them low, then when they are
met you'll be elated. Ditto for all Wintrolls.

BTW, I really like FireFox, which is superior in every way to IE. I
like the way FireFox gives me to option to save my multi-tabs.

The only time I resort to IE is when a Microsoft specific coded webpage
can't be rendered properly (unreadable) in FireFox, due to Microsoft
specific code not standards compliant. Those are becoming fewer and fewer
as time passes.

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On 3/28/2011 7:57 PM, High Plains Thumper wrote:
> Goblin wrote:
>> DFS wrote:
>>
>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing
>>> death and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>
> Really? Still suffering from delutions of grandeur, I see. You're not that
> important.
>
>> And theres been thousands of things which you've said which Ive never
>> challenged either.  Unlike you there is life for me outside COLA.
>>
>> How about you link to the "cancer" comments now and I'll challenge them.
>> It may make you feel better.  I didn't see them first time around....how
>> long ago are we talking about DFS?
>
> Don't set your expectations too high. Keep them low, then when they are
> met you'll be elated. Ditto for all Wintrolls.
>
> BTW, I really like FireFox, which is superior in every way to IE. I
> like the way FireFox gives me to option to save my multi-tabs.
>
> The only time I resort to IE is when a Microsoft specific coded webpage
> can't be rendered properly (unreadable) in FireFox, due to Microsoft
> specific code not standards compliant. Those are becoming fewer and fewer
> as time passes.
>

You should  do yourself a favor and just kick High Plains Clown to the 
curb. Don't waste your time on it.

Goblin wrote:

> I'll be
> back and talking to you again and in the meantime will be speaking with
> one of your many sockpuppets.


please, talk to them somewhere else. i already have them all killfiled & all
you are doing is reposting their tripe by responding to them, making
yourself look like a fool in the process.

i really do not like the idea of binning Linux advocates, like you, Goblin
but i will if i have to. i have other trollfeeders binned as well.

your best bet is just to bin those assholes, & do your best Linux advocacy.
  

On 3/28/2011 8:38 PM, none of your buisiness wrote:
> Goblin wrote:
>
>> I'll be
>> back and talking to you again and in the meantime will be speaking with
>> one of your many sockpuppets.
>
>
> please, talk to them somewhere else. i already have them all killfiled&  all
> you are doing is reposting their tripe by responding to them, making
> yourself look like a fool in the process.
>
> i really do not like the idea of binning Linux advocates, like you, Goblin
> but i will if i have to. i have other trollfeeders binned as well.
>
> your best bet is just to bin those assholes,&  do your best Linux advocacy.
>

LOL! Goblin aka Linux Jesus is too weak. He likes to run his big mouth. 
It's in his nature. :)

In message <W8adnXKRJqaqDQ3QnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/28/2011 2:10 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message<C6adncmwBJ6cng3QnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Big Steel
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/27/2011 10:29 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message<imndun$96g$1@dont-email.me>, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Lawrence D'Oliveiro"<ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand>   wrote in
>>>>> message news:immpdh$svs$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.
>>>>>
>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/installing-32-bit-ie-9-on-64-bit-windows/802>
>>>>
>>>> Who’s the idiot now?
>>>
>>> FavBrowser.com ...
>>
>> ... is outvoted:
>>
>. <http://www.softblogger.net/64-bit-web-browser-speed-test/>
>> <http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/939372-64bit-ie9-javascript-slower-than-32bit/>
>>
>> Again: who’s the idiot now?
> 
> You and your comments don't  mean jack ...

I am just citing some of the many comments from around the Web confirming
what everybody knows: that 64-bit IE9 is dog-slow. Your FavBrowser.com
claims can’t seem to be backed up anywhere.

Again: who’s the idiot now?

On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:56:23 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/28/2011 6:47 PM, DFS wrote:
>> On 3/28/2011 6:32 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>> On 03/28/2011 11:36 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>> On 3/28/2011 5:02 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <clown>
>>>
>>> Ok Big Steel. You make an insult out of the disaster in Japan and I'm a
>>> clown. Ok.
>>>
>>> What does that make you?
>>
>> In no way did he insult Japan or the disaster. He was asking you to do a
>> public service.
>>
>> Maybe he forgot to say Please...
>>
> 
> Yeah, he should give us a first hand report. He is running his mouth 
> about everything else under the Sun. Maybe he can do something that will 
> benefit man kind, and he can crawl away towards the Sun and disappear. :)

It's Rex Ballard part 2.
Only Rex is at least sincerely polite and doesn't run over to Roy's IRC
claiming he is winning battles against the trolls.

On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:57:31 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:


> Don't set your expectations too high. Keep them low, then when they are
> met you'll be elated. 

That's the Linux mantra!

With Linux on your desktop you know you are going to lose, so why not go
all the way and lose big!

On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:01:55 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/28/2011 8:38 PM, none of your buisiness wrote:
>> Goblin wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be
>>> back and talking to you again and in the meantime will be speaking with
>>> one of your many sockpuppets.
>>
>>
>> please, talk to them somewhere else. i already have them all killfiled&  all
>> you are doing is reposting their tripe by responding to them, making
>> yourself look like a fool in the process.
>>
>> i really do not like the idea of binning Linux advocates, like you, Goblin
>> but i will if i have to. i have other trollfeeders binned as well.
>>
>> your best bet is just to bin those assholes,&  do your best Linux advocacy.
>>
> 
> LOL! Goblin aka Linux Jesus is too weak. He likes to run his big mouth. 
> It's in his nature. :)

I wonder if he can walk on water?

On 3/28/2011 9:51 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

<snipped>
<yawn>
<not read>

Shoo, fly, don't bother me -- idiot......

On 3/28/2011 11:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:56:23 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
>
>> On 3/28/2011 6:47 PM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 3/28/2011 6:32 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>> On 03/28/2011 11:36 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>> On 3/28/2011 5:02 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <clown>
>>>>
>>>> Ok Big Steel. You make an insult out of the disaster in Japan and I'm a
>>>> clown. Ok.
>>>>
>>>> What does that make you?
>>>
>>> In no way did he insult Japan or the disaster. He was asking you to do a
>>> public service.
>>>
>>> Maybe he forgot to say Please...
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, he should give us a first hand report. He is running his mouth
>> about everything else under the Sun. Maybe he can do something that will
>> benefit man kind, and he can crawl away towards the Sun and disappear. :)
>
> It's Rex Ballard part 2.
> Only Rex is at least sincerely polite and doesn't run over to Roy's IRC
> claiming he is winning battles against the trolls.

He does that kind of nonsense? Goblin is a total joke with tea on the brain.

On 3/28/2011 11:17 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:01:55 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
>
>> On 3/28/2011 8:38 PM, none of your buisiness wrote:
>>> Goblin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll be
>>>> back and talking to you again and in the meantime will be speaking with
>>>> one of your many sockpuppets.
>>>
>>>
>>> please, talk to them somewhere else. i already have them all killfiled&   all
>>> you are doing is reposting their tripe by responding to them, making
>>> yourself look like a fool in the process.
>>>
>>> i really do not like the idea of binning Linux advocates, like you, Goblin
>>> but i will if i have to. i have other trollfeeders binned as well.
>>>
>>> your best bet is just to bin those assholes,&   do your best Linux advocacy.
>>>
>>
>> LOL! Goblin aka Linux Jesus is too weak. He likes to run his big mouth.
>> It's in his nature. :)
>
> I wonder if he can walk on water?

What, in the shower?

You see that loon Olive Oil, a loser. Everyone is a loser but him the 
biggest loser of them all. Shoo fly shoo......

In message <mu6dnRS5k5chwQzQnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Big Steel 
wrote:

> On 3/28/2011 9:51 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>> Again: who’s the idiot now?
> 
> Shoo, fly, don't bother me -- idiot......

The one going “La-la-la, I can’t hear you”.

On 3/29/2011 2:33 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

<snipped>

Shoo, fly, don't bother me -- idiot.. You are just another one of these 
sick fucked in the head COLA loons. Goblin must be your daddy.

On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:57:31 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:

> Goblin wrote:
>> DFS wrote:
>>
>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing
>>> death and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
> 
> Really? Still suffering from delutions of grandeur, I see. You're not that
> important.

Are any of the wintrolls? AFAIC they're insignificant, inept lusers who
can't get anything to work in Linux. 

<snip>

-- 
If it weren't for Windows, 
you wouldn't be posting anything right now. 
"DFS"
Message-ID: <10dhshhno9ha938@corp.supernews.com>

On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:49:33 +0100, William Poaster wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:57:31 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:
> 
>> Goblin wrote:
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing
>>>> death and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>> 
>> Really? Still suffering from delutions of grandeur, I see. You're not that
>> important.
> 
> Are any of the wintrolls? AFAIC they're insignificant, inept lusers who
> can't get anything to work in Linux. 

We get Linux to work.
That's why we can unequivocally state that Linux sucks.
Once you actually try Linux, the pain sets in and the user is left
wondering why she even bothered to try Linux in the first place.



Others of course are not so "lucky" as us.
They spend weeks trying to make Linux work and then give up.
Very typical.

On 3/29/2011 7:02 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:49:33 +0100, William Poaster wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:57:31 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>
>>> Goblin wrote:
>>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing
>>>>> death and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>>>
>>> Really? Still suffering from delutions of grandeur, I see. You're not that
>>> important.
>>
>> Are any of the wintrolls? AFAIC they're insignificant, inept lusers who
>> can't get anything to work in Linux.
>
> We get Linux to work.
> That's why we can unequivocally state that Linux sucks.
> Once you actually try Linux, the pain sets in and the user is left
> wondering why she even bothered to try Linux in the first place.
>
>
>
> Others of course are not so "lucky" as us.
> They spend weeks trying to make Linux work and then give up.
> Very typical.
>
>

Why bother with him? Even his own people don't even bother with him. He 
is just another COLA loud mouth with lip suction.

"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> schreef in bericht 
news:imrdv8$jai$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> In message <W8adnXKRJqaqDQ3QnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Big Steel 
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/28/2011 2:10 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> In message<C6adncmwBJ6cng3QnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Big Steel
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/27/2011 10:29 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In message<imndun$96g$1@dont-email.me>, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Lawrence D'Oliveiro"<ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand>   wrote in
>>>>>> message news:immpdh$svs$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/installing-32-bit-ie-9-on-64-bit-windows/802>
>>>>>
>>>>> Who’s the idiot now?
>>>>
>>>> FavBrowser.com ...
>>>
>>> ... is outvoted:
>>>
>>. <http://www.softblogger.net/64-bit-web-browser-speed-test/>
>>> <http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/939372-64bit-ie9-javascript-slower-than-32bit/>
>>>
>>> Again: who’s the idiot now?
>>
>> You and your comments don't  mean jack ...
>
> I am just citing some of the many comments from around the Web confirming
> what everybody knows: that 64-bit IE9 is dog-slow. Your FavBrowser.com
> claims can’t seem to be backed up anywhere.
>
> Again: who’s the idiot now?


You still are, idiot:
http://www.favbrowser.com/internet-explorer-9-32-bit-x86-vs-ie9-64-bit-x64/ 

On 3/29/2011 11:29 AM, Clog_-_wog (®) wrote:
>  <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> schreef in
> bericht news:imrdv8$jai$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> In message <W8adnXKRJqaqDQ3QnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Big Steel
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/28/2011 2:10 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message<C6adncmwBJ6cng3QnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Big Steel
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/27/2011 10:29 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In message<imndun$96g$1@dont-email.me>, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Lawrence D'Oliveiro"<ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:immpdh$svs$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fine if you like being stuck with 32-bit software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/installing-32-bit-ie-9-on-64-bit-windows/802>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who’s the idiot now?
>>>>>
>>>>> FavBrowser.com ...
>>>>
>>>> ... is outvoted:
>>>>
>>> . <http://www.softblogger.net/64-bit-web-browser-speed-test/>
>>>> <http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/939372-64bit-ie9-javascript-slower-than-32bit/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Again: who’s the idiot now?
>>>
>>> You and your comments don't mean jack ...
>>
>> I am just citing some of the many comments from around the Web confirming
>> what everybody knows: that 64-bit IE9 is dog-slow. Your FavBrowser.com
>> claims can’t seem to be backed up anywhere.
>>
>> Again: who’s the idiot now?
>
>
> You still are, idiot:
> http://www.favbrowser.com/internet-explorer-9-32-bit-x86-vs-ie9-64-bit-x64/

You can show the olive fly "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" something, but his 1 
bit mind doesn't compute. The clown thinks that this is in a contest and 
he wins. :) I got a fly swatter behind curtain #3 -- shoo fly shoo.

On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:18:35 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/29/2011 7:02 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:49:33 +0100, William Poaster wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:57:31 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>
>>>> Goblin wrote:
>>>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>>>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing
>>>>>> death and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Still suffering from delutions of grandeur, I see. You're not that
>>>> important.
>>>
>>> Are any of the wintrolls? AFAIC they're insignificant, inept lusers who
>>> can't get anything to work in Linux.
>>
>> We get Linux to work.
>> That's why we can unequivocally state that Linux sucks.
>> Once you actually try Linux, the pain sets in and the user is left
>> wondering why she even bothered to try Linux in the first place.
>>
>>
>>
>> Others of course are not so "lucky" as us.
>> They spend weeks trying to make Linux work and then give up.
>> Very typical.
>>
>>
> 
> Why bother with him? Even his own people don't even bother with him. He 
> is just another COLA loud mouth with lip suction.

Willy Poaster does seem to be ignored by most.
Seems his only friend at the moment is Liarmutt.

On 3/28/2011 7:31 PM, Goblin wrote:

>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing death
>> and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>>
> And theres been thousands of things which you've said which Ive never
> challenged either.  Unlike you there is life for me outside COLA.

I can tell:

"MVP�s and Microsoft Advocates you are on notice,  I record and document 
everything and am rather good at building up a profile on users who I 
consider dubious."




> How about you link to the "cancer" comments now and I'll challenge them.
>   It may make you feel better.  I didn't see them first time
> around....how long ago are we talking about DFS?




"But that wouldn't help DuFuS. The only thing that can
help him is a .357 placed in his mouth and poited at the top of his
head."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/336f70fd42ed02ff?hl=en 



"The world would be a better place if Dumfsck was dead."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/dfd7faa2e7650349?hl=en


"Somebody needs to shoot DFS in the head."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b62b292a90f88566?hl=en


"Fuck off, get cancer and die a long and painfull death."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/df02019defd5e68a?hl=en


"Hopefully he will get AIDS from sharing a needle with his crack whore 
mother."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0b52f97f18b27a39?hl=en


"You will be visited by three spirits; Vodka, Bourbon and Brandy ... 
which you will drink until you pass out, every day for the rest of your 
lonely and miserable life. You will die quietly, and unnoticed, in a 
ditch somewhere, where you will lie for many days, until someone notices 
the smell of rotting flesh."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8acacd12dc73f0d9?hl=en


Gee, the "advocates" are revolting...

On 03/29/2011 04:15 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:56:23 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
> 
>> On 3/28/2011 6:47 PM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 3/28/2011 6:32 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>> On 03/28/2011 11:36 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>> On 3/28/2011 5:02 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <clown>
>>>>
>>>> Ok Big Steel. You make an insult out of the disaster in Japan and I'm a
>>>> clown. Ok.
>>>>
>>>> What does that make you?
>>>
>>> In no way did he insult Japan or the disaster. He was asking you to do a
>>> public service.
>>>
>>> Maybe he forgot to say Please...
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, he should give us a first hand report. He is running his mouth 
>> about everything else under the Sun. Maybe he can do something that will 
>> benefit man kind, and he can crawl away towards the Sun and disappear. :)
> 
> It's Rex Ballard part 2.
> Only Rex is at least sincerely polite and doesn't run over to Roy's IRC
> claiming he is winning battles against the trolls.

Eh? I am.  Its only the trolls like yourself that don't notice. Actually
you do, but you have to try to atleast keep up a pretence.

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On 03/29/2011 04:17 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:01:55 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
> 
>> On 3/28/2011 8:38 PM, none of your buisiness wrote:
>>> Goblin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll be
>>>> back and talking to you again and in the meantime will be speaking with
>>>> one of your many sockpuppets.
>>>
>>>
>>> please, talk to them somewhere else. i already have them all killfiled&  all
>>> you are doing is reposting their tripe by responding to them, making
>>> yourself look like a fool in the process.
>>>
>>> i really do not like the idea of binning Linux advocates, like you, Goblin
>>> but i will if i have to. i have other trollfeeders binned as well.
>>>
>>> your best bet is just to bin those assholes,&  do your best Linux advocacy.
>>>
>>
>> LOL! Goblin aka Linux Jesus is too weak. He likes to run his big mouth. 
>> It's in his nature. :)
> 
> I wonder if he can walk on water?
No, but Im sure you would claim it when trying to prove one of your
points.  We have already seen how ethics and morals play no part in your
life.

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On 03/29/2011 09:08 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 3/28/2011 7:31 PM, Goblin wrote:
> 
>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing death
>>> and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>>>
>> And theres been thousands of things which you've said which Ive never
>> challenged either.  Unlike you there is life for me outside COLA.
> 
> I can tell:
> 
> "MVP�s and Microsoft Advocates you are on notice,  I record and document
> everything and am rather good at building up a profile on users who I
> consider dubious."
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> How about you link to the "cancer" comments now and I'll challenge them.
>>   It may make you feel better.  I didn't see them first time
>> around....how long ago are we talking about DFS?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "But that wouldn't help DuFuS. The only thing that can
> help him is a .357 placed in his mouth and poited at the top of his
> head."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/336f70fd42ed02ff?hl=en
> 
> 
> 
> "The world would be a better place if Dumfsck was dead."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/dfd7faa2e7650349?hl=en
> 
> 
> 
> "Somebody needs to shoot DFS in the head."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b62b292a90f88566?hl=en
> 
> 
> 
> "Fuck off, get cancer and die a long and painfull death."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/df02019defd5e68a?hl=en
> 
> 
> 
> "Hopefully he will get AIDS from sharing a needle with his crack whore
> mother."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0b52f97f18b27a39?hl=en
> 
> 
> 
> "You will be visited by three spirits; Vodka, Bourbon and Brandy ...
> which you will drink until you pass out, every day for the rest of your
> lonely and miserable life. You will die quietly, and unnoticed, in a
> ditch somewhere, where you will lie for many days, until someone notices
> the smell of rotting flesh."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8acacd12dc73f0d9?hl=en
> 
> 
> 
> Gee, the "advocates" are revolting...
> 

Why are you linking that silly? I said none of those.  You can't give
any "evidence" on me can you, thats why all you can do is link the
comments of others.

How about I link a load of Flatfish comments and ask you to justify them?

Re: My advocates message, yes.  I do document everything....(and they
don't visit the site often) good job too because when they are rumbled
they Linkedln accounts seem to mysteriously disapear.  Good job I
snapshot them.

You spent alot of time posting here today DFS and as I say some of us
have life outside cola in the real world.  Maybe Ive missed your link to
my comment of lifeless brick?  Fancy giving it again? :)

In the meantime though, when the words lifeless brick are used it
doesn't mean that successful phones have "life" or that when they fail
they actually turn into a brick and lose their life....I hope you don't
take everything as literally as that.....

Like I say DFS, I am on the end of a skype call.  If you want to discuss
what makes you the way you are, please contact me.  A problem shared is
a problem halved.

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On 03/29/2011 05:23 AM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 3/28/2011 11:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:56:23 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/28/2011 6:47 PM, DFS wrote:
>>>> On 3/28/2011 6:32 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>> On 03/28/2011 11:36 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/28/2011 5:02 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <clown>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok Big Steel. You make an insult out of the disaster in Japan and
>>>>> I'm a
>>>>> clown. Ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> What does that make you?
>>>>
>>>> In no way did he insult Japan or the disaster. He was asking you to
>>>> do a
>>>> public service.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe he forgot to say Please...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, he should give us a first hand report. He is running his mouth
>>> about everything else under the Sun. Maybe he can do something that will
>>> benefit man kind, and he can crawl away towards the Sun and
>>> disappear. :)
>>
>> It's Rex Ballard part 2.
>> Only Rex is at least sincerely polite and doesn't run over to Roy's IRC
>> claiming he is winning battles against the trolls.
> 
> He does that kind of nonsense? Goblin is a total joke with tea on the
> brain.

Except it wasn't running, I was in IRC and it was a point of fun.  The
trolls here do spend much of their time checking and researching....I
wonder why? Do they do anything else in their lives?  I'd suggest not.

And as for jokes, you saying that whats been happening here is not
making a joke of the trolls?  Tea on the brain?  Yeah why not, it will
be Earl Grey though.

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On 3/29/2011 6:48 PM, Goblin wrote:

<LOL>
<I didn't read it.>

One of your people is going to killfile you Linux Jesus, just FYI. :)

On 03/30/2011 12:00 AM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 3/29/2011 6:48 PM, Goblin wrote:
> 
> <LOL>
> <I didn't read it.>
> 
> One of your people is going to killfile you Linux Jesus, just FYI. :)

Really? and that would be?

Why do you like to tell people you are not reading something?

Not that it matters...

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On 03/30/2011 12:29 AM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 3/29/2011 7:15 PM, Goblin wrote:
> <snipped>
> 
> <I didn't read>
> 
> Be careful now Linux Jesus, you are going to lose more of your people if
> you keep this up, just FYI. The just might look you up, string you up,
> crucify you, take a hot branding iron and burn Linux on your chest. You
> should consider that nuclear reactor, and sacrifice for man kind and
> Linux. :)

Yeah.  I take it the pretence of any sort of normality is now out the
Window (no pun intended) for you.

Good quote though, thanks.

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On 3/29/2011 7:15 PM, Goblin wrote:
<snipped>

<I didn't read>

Be careful now Linux Jesus, you are going to lose more of your people if 
you keep this up, just FYI. The just might look you up, string you up, 
crucify you, take a hot branding iron and burn Linux on your chest. You 
should consider that nuclear reactor, and sacrifice for man kind and 
Linux. :)

On 3/29/2011 7:28 PM, Goblin wrote:

<snipped>
<not read>

Don't ware yourself out now with your nose wide open. Do you have any 
tissues for you runny nose?

See ya I wouldn't want to be ya!

<VBG>

On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:08:04 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 3/28/2011 7:31 PM, Goblin wrote:
> 
>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing death
>>> and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>>>
>> And theres been thousands of things which you've said which Ive never
>> challenged either.  Unlike you there is life for me outside COLA.
> 
> I can tell:
> 
> "MVP�s and Microsoft Advocates you are on notice,  I record and document 
> everything and am rather good at building up a profile on users who I 
> consider dubious."
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> How about you link to the "cancer" comments now and I'll challenge them.
>>   It may make you feel better.  I didn't see them first time
>> around....how long ago are we talking about DFS?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "But that wouldn't help DuFuS. The only thing that can
> help him is a .357 placed in his mouth and poited at the top of his
> head."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/336f70fd42ed02ff?hl=en 
> 
> 
> 
> "The world would be a better place if Dumfsck was dead."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/dfd7faa2e7650349?hl=en
> 
> 
> "Somebody needs to shoot DFS in the head."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b62b292a90f88566?hl=en
> 
> 
> "Fuck off, get cancer and die a long and painfull death."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/df02019defd5e68a?hl=en
> 
> 
> "Hopefully he will get AIDS from sharing a needle with his crack whore 
> mother."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0b52f97f18b27a39?hl=en
> 
> 
> "You will be visited by three spirits; Vodka, Bourbon and Brandy ... 
> which you will drink until you pass out, every day for the rest of your 
> lonely and miserable life. You will die quietly, and unnoticed, in a 
> ditch somewhere, where you will lie for many days, until someone notices 
> the smell of rotting flesh."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8acacd12dc73f0d9?hl=en
> 
> 
> Gee, the "advocates" are revolting...

Yea...
Kind of like Poland against the Germans in WW2.

Horses vs tanks.

They have pitchforks and bats.

We Wintrolls have cruise missiles.

On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:00:48 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/29/2011 6:48 PM, Goblin wrote:
> 
> <LOL>
> <I didn't read it.>
> 
> One of your people is going to killfile you Linux Jesus, just FYI. :)

Praise the Lord!
Amen brother!

Goblin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 03/29/2011 09:08 PM, DFS wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> <list of vile death wishes provoked, deliberately it seems, by
>>  the vile behavior of DFS, and, apparently, enjoyed by him as both
>>  his reward for his trolling and as meat for further trolling,
>>  snipped>
>>
>> Gee, the "advocates" are revolting...
>
> Why are you linking that silly?

He is essentially bragging about how effective his trolling was; he
delights in anger.

> I said none of those.  You can't give
> any "evidence" on me can you, thats why all you can do is link the
> comments of others.
>
> <snip>
>
> Like I say DFS, I am on the end of a skype call.  If you want to discuss
> what makes you the way you are, please contact me.  A problem shared is
> a problem halved.

Ahhh, the judgment of Solomon as a solution to what ails DFS.

-- 
Tart words make no friends; a spoonful of honey will catch more flies than
a gallon of vinegar.
		-- B. Franklin

On 03/30/2011 02:15 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:08:04 -0400, DFS wrote:
> 
>> On 3/28/2011 7:31 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>
>>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing death
>>>> and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>>>>
>>> And theres been thousands of things which you've said which Ive never
>>> challenged either.  Unlike you there is life for me outside COLA.
>>
>> I can tell:
>>
>> "MVP�s and Microsoft Advocates you are on notice,  I record and document 
>> everything and am rather good at building up a profile on users who I 
>> consider dubious."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> How about you link to the "cancer" comments now and I'll challenge them.
>>>   It may make you feel better.  I didn't see them first time
>>> around....how long ago are we talking about DFS?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "But that wouldn't help DuFuS. The only thing that can
>> help him is a .357 placed in his mouth and poited at the top of his
>> head."
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/336f70fd42ed02ff?hl=en 
>>
>>
>>
>> "The world would be a better place if Dumfsck was dead."
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/dfd7faa2e7650349?hl=en
>>
>>
>> "Somebody needs to shoot DFS in the head."
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b62b292a90f88566?hl=en
>>
>>
>> "Fuck off, get cancer and die a long and painfull death."
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/df02019defd5e68a?hl=en
>>
>>
>> "Hopefully he will get AIDS from sharing a needle with his crack whore 
>> mother."
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0b52f97f18b27a39?hl=en
>>
>>
>> "You will be visited by three spirits; Vodka, Bourbon and Brandy ... 
>> which you will drink until you pass out, every day for the rest of your 
>> lonely and miserable life. You will die quietly, and unnoticed, in a 
>> ditch somewhere, where you will lie for many days, until someone notices 
>> the smell of rotting flesh."
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8acacd12dc73f0d9?hl=en
>>
>>
>> Gee, the "advocates" are revolting...
> 
> Yea...
> Kind of like Poland against the Germans in WW2.
> 
> Horses vs tanks.
> 
> They have pitchforks and bats.
> 
> We Wintrolls have cruise missiles.

They'll never launch, they are powered by Windows and are still awaiting
a working launch code update.


-- 

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William Poaster wrote:
> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>> Goblin wrote:
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you
>>>> whining about such things when various cola loser "advocates"
>>>> were wishing death and cancer on me and other anti-Linux
>>>> posters.
>>
>> Really? Still suffering from delusions of grandeur, I see. You're
>> not that important.
>
> Are any of the wintrolls? AFAIC they're insignificant, inept lusers
> who can't get anything to work in Linux.

Yup. I've never seen such a whiny bunch in my life. The tragic truth is 
that Usenet is becoming less and less a medium of conveying discussion. 
So basically, their Wintrolling is in vain.

They need to look about them. Linux has gained enough of a foothold 
amongst admins, that fewer and fewer are seeking Microsoft technologies. 
with corporate (or company) cloud computing, there is less of a need for 
a desktop. Any appliance will do.

My ASUS 4G Surf netbook is a good example of an easy to use portable 
appliance. Ubuntu does a fine job on just 4 GB of SSD. Ditto for the 
Androids.

-- 
HPT

On 3/29/2011 6:22 PM, Goblin wrote:
> On 03/29/2011 09:08 PM, DFS wrote:
>> On 3/28/2011 7:31 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>
>>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing death
>>>> and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>>>>
>>> And theres been thousands of things which you've said which Ive never
>>> challenged either.  Unlike you there is life for me outside COLA.
>>
>> I can tell:
>>
>> "MVP�s and Microsoft Advocates you are on notice,  I record and document
>> everything and am rather good at building up a profile on users who I
>> consider dubious."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> How about you link to the "cancer" comments now and I'll challenge them.
>>>    It may make you feel better.  I didn't see them first time
>>> around....how long ago are we talking about DFS?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "But that wouldn't help DuFuS. The only thing that can
>> help him is a .357 placed in his mouth and poited at the top of his
>> head."
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/336f70fd42ed02ff?hl=en
>>
>>
>>
>> "The world would be a better place if Dumfsck was dead."
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/dfd7faa2e7650349?hl=en
>>
>>
>>
>> "Somebody needs to shoot DFS in the head."
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b62b292a90f88566?hl=en
>>
>>
>>
>> "Fuck off, get cancer and die a long and painfull death."
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/df02019defd5e68a?hl=en
>>
>>
>>
>> "Hopefully he will get AIDS from sharing a needle with his crack whore
>> mother."
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0b52f97f18b27a39?hl=en
>>
>>
>>
>> "You will be visited by three spirits; Vodka, Bourbon and Brandy ...
>> which you will drink until you pass out, every day for the rest of your
>> lonely and miserable life. You will die quietly, and unnoticed, in a
>> ditch somewhere, where you will lie for many days, until someone notices
>> the smell of rotting flesh."
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8acacd12dc73f0d9?hl=en
>>
>>
>>
>> Gee, the "advocates" are revolting...
>>
>
> Why are you linking that silly? I said none of those.  You can't give
> any "evidence" on me can you, thats why all you can do is link the
> comments of others.

I never once claimed you said it.  I said it was "various cola loser 
"advocates"".

And now here you go again, twisting and sliming and putting words in my 
mouth.




> How about I link a load of Flatfish comments and ask you to justify them?
>
> Re: My advocates message, yes.  I do document everything....(and they
> don't visit the site often) good job too because when they are rumbled
> they Linkedln accounts seem to mysteriously disapear.  Good job I
> snapshot them.

Yeah, you're a real scary web investigator.



> You spent alot of time posting here today DFS

No, I did not.



> and as I say some of us
> have life outside cola in the real world.

So you claim.



> Maybe Ive missed your link to
> my comment of lifeless brick?  Fancy giving it again? :)


Why do I have to give links to prove you're a lying idiot who claimed 
that because MS quit making the KIN, previous purchasers were stuck with 
"lifeless bricks"?




> In the meantime though, when the words lifeless brick are used it
> doesn't mean that successful phones have "life" or that when they fail
> they actually turn into a brick and lose their life....I hope you don't
> take everything as literally as that.....

You claimed that MS quit making the KIN, thus rendering existing KINs 
"lifeless bricks".

This is a flat-out lie.




> Like I say DFS, I am on the end of a skype call.  If you want to discuss
> what makes you the way you are, please contact me.

Let's stay on topic with your lies and Linux.



> A problem shared is a problem halved.


"A Linux install is a Linux uninstall"

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:16:45 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:

> William Poaster wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>> Goblin wrote:
>>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing
>>>>> death and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>>>
>>> Really? Still suffering from delusions of grandeur, I see. You're not
>>> that important.
>>
>> Are any of the wintrolls? AFAIC they're insignificant, inept lusers who
>> can't get anything to work in Linux.
> 
> Yup. I've never seen such a whiny bunch in my life. The tragic truth is
> that Usenet is becoming less and less a medium of conveying discussion. So
> basically, their Wintrolling is in vain.

And from replies I've seen to them, it seems the wintrolls are getting
ever more desperate for attention in their whining & trolling. 

> They need to look about them. Linux has gained enough of a foothold
> amongst admins, that fewer and fewer are seeking Microsoft technologies.
> with corporate (or company) cloud computing, there is less of a need for a
> desktop. Any appliance will do.
> 
> My ASUS 4G Surf netbook is a good example of an easy to use portable
> appliance. Ubuntu does a fine job on just 4 GB of SSD. Ditto for the
> Androids.

On 3/31/2011 5:33 AM, William Poaster wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:16:45 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:
>
>> William Poaster wrote:
>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>> Goblin wrote:
>>>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>>>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing
>>>>>> death and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Still suffering from delusions of grandeur, I see. You're not
>>>> that important.
>>>
>>> Are any of the wintrolls? AFAIC they're insignificant, inept lusers who
>>> can't get anything to work in Linux.
>>
>> Yup. I've never seen such a whiny bunch in my life. The tragic truth is
>> that Usenet is becoming less and less a medium of conveying discussion. So
>> basically, their Wintrolling is in vain.
>
> And from replies I've seen to them, it seems the wintrolls are getting
> ever more desperate for attention in their whining&  trolling.
>
>> They need to look about them. Linux has gained enough of a foothold
>> amongst admins, that fewer and fewer are seeking Microsoft technologies.
>> with corporate (or company) cloud computing, there is less of a need for a
>> desktop. Any appliance will do.
>>
>> My ASUS 4G Surf netbook is a good example of an easy to use portable
>> appliance. Ubuntu does a fine job on just 4 GB of SSD. Ditto for the
>> Androids.
>

Well -- well, it's Willie-Kiss-em-Butt Boaster trying to make a case and 
the subject is about Wintrolls with old HPT aka High Balls the Lent 
Licker. Linux is grabbing a foot hold where?

I have seen Linux used at the desktop one time in a corporation and it 
was a total disaster by the clown who quit his job at  Taco Bell. He was 
the son the IT director never had. We called him Taco Bell Mike -- here 
comes Taco Bell Mike again. :)

Needless to say, Linux was dumped out of all the plants, the IT director 
was demoted,  he was a good old boy in the boy's club that should have 
been fired for wasting all that money and Taco Bell Mike didn't have his 
daddy backing him up anymore. Shortly thereafter, the IT directive was 
to go to .NET. :)

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:55:15 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 3/29/2011 6:22 PM, Goblin wrote:
>> On 03/29/2011 09:08 PM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 3/28/2011 7:31 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing death
>>>>> and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>>>>>
>>>> And theres been thousands of things which you've said which Ive never
>>>> challenged either.  Unlike you there is life for me outside COLA.
>>>
>>> I can tell:
>>>
>>> "MVP�s and Microsoft Advocates you are on notice,  I record and document
>>> everything and am rather good at building up a profile on users who I
>>> consider dubious."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> How about you link to the "cancer" comments now and I'll challenge them.
>>>>    It may make you feel better.  I didn't see them first time
>>>> around....how long ago are we talking about DFS?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "But that wouldn't help DuFuS. The only thing that can
>>> help him is a .357 placed in his mouth and poited at the top of his
>>> head."
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/336f70fd42ed02ff?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "The world would be a better place if Dumfsck was dead."
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/dfd7faa2e7650349?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Somebody needs to shoot DFS in the head."
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b62b292a90f88566?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Fuck off, get cancer and die a long and painfull death."
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/df02019defd5e68a?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Hopefully he will get AIDS from sharing a needle with his crack whore
>>> mother."
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0b52f97f18b27a39?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "You will be visited by three spirits; Vodka, Bourbon and Brandy ...
>>> which you will drink until you pass out, every day for the rest of your
>>> lonely and miserable life. You will die quietly, and unnoticed, in a
>>> ditch somewhere, where you will lie for many days, until someone notices
>>> the smell of rotting flesh."
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8acacd12dc73f0d9?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gee, the "advocates" are revolting...
>>>
>>
>> Why are you linking that silly? I said none of those.  You can't give
>> any "evidence" on me can you, thats why all you can do is link the
>> comments of others.
> 
> I never once claimed you said it.  I said it was "various cola loser 
> "advocates"".
> 
> And now here you go again, twisting and sliming and putting words in my 
> mouth.

He has some nerve complaining about linking to the comments of others
seeing as that is about all his mentor Slimeowtiz does.
Hell, Slimeowitz even links back to his own posts for proof!
 
> 
>> How about I link a load of Flatfish comments and ask you to justify them?
>>
>> Re: My advocates message, yes.  I do document everything....(and they
>> don't visit the site often) good job too because when they are rumbled
>> they Linkedln accounts seem to mysteriously disapear.  Good job I
>> snapshot them.
> 
> Yeah, you're a real scary web investigator.

A real "Dickless Tracy".....
 
> 
>> You spent alot of time posting here today DFS
> 
> No, I did not.
> 

Looks like he is tracking you.
Wonder why that is?

This loon is one of the more dangerous ones because he actually takes
this crap seriously.

> 
>> and as I say some of us
>> have life outside cola in the real world.
> 
> So you claim.

Yea.
His likf is making crappy podcasts with the most boring person on the
face of the planet.
 
> 
> 
>> Maybe Ive missed your link to
>> my comment of lifeless brick?  Fancy giving it again? :)
> 
> 
> Why do I have to give links to prove you're a lying idiot who claimed 
> that because MS quit making the KIN, previous purchasers were stuck with 
> "lifeless bricks"?

What a kook.
 
> 
>> In the meantime though, when the words lifeless brick are used it
>> doesn't mean that successful phones have "life" or that when they fail
>> they actually turn into a brick and lose their life....I hope you don't
>> take everything as literally as that.....
> 
> You claimed that MS quit making the KIN, thus rendering existing KINs 
> "lifeless bricks".

Linux is a lifeless brick.
The landfills are full of Linux CDs.

 
> This is a flat-out lie.

What do you expect from a Linux advocate?


> 
>> Like I say DFS, I am on the end of a skype call.  If you want to discuss
>> what makes you the way you are, please contact me.
> 
> Let's stay on topic with your lies and Linux.

Talk to him?
Is he kidding?
 
> 
>> A problem shared is a problem halved.
> 
> 
> "A Linux install is a Linux uninstall"

Nice!

Get ready for Ubuntu to start bragging about how many downloads of Nappy
they received.

The problem is if even a small percentage of those people stuck with
Linux instead of dumping it and returning to Windows, Microsoft would
have been out of business years ago.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 06:01:35 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/31/2011 5:33 AM, William Poaster wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:16:45 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>
>>> William Poaster wrote:
>>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>>> Goblin wrote:
>>>>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>>>>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing
>>>>>>> death and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? Still suffering from delusions of grandeur, I see. You're not
>>>>> that important.
>>>>
>>>> Are any of the wintrolls? AFAIC they're insignificant, inept lusers who
>>>> can't get anything to work in Linux.
>>>
>>> Yup. I've never seen such a whiny bunch in my life. The tragic truth is
>>> that Usenet is becoming less and less a medium of conveying discussion. So
>>> basically, their Wintrolling is in vain.
>>
>> And from replies I've seen to them, it seems the wintrolls are getting
>> ever more desperate for attention in their whining&  trolling.
>>
>>> They need to look about them. Linux has gained enough of a foothold
>>> amongst admins, that fewer and fewer are seeking Microsoft technologies.
>>> with corporate (or company) cloud computing, there is less of a need for a
>>> desktop. Any appliance will do.
>>>
>>> My ASUS 4G Surf netbook is a good example of an easy to use portable
>>> appliance. Ubuntu does a fine job on just 4 GB of SSD. Ditto for the
>>> Androids.
>>
> 
> Well -- well, it's Willie-Kiss-em-Butt Boaster trying to make a case and 
> the subject is about Wintrolls with old HPT aka High Balls the Lent 
> Licker. Linux is grabbing a foot hold where?
> 
> I have seen Linux used at the desktop one time in a corporation and it 
> was a total disaster by the clown who quit his job at  Taco Bell. He was 
> the son the IT director never had. We called him Taco Bell Mike -- here 
> comes Taco Bell Mike again. :)
> 
> Needless to say, Linux was dumped out of all the plants, the IT director 
> was demoted,  he was a good old boy in the boy's club that should have 
> been fired for wasting all that money and Taco Bell Mike didn't have his 
> daddy backing him up anymore. Shortly thereafter, the IT directive was 
> to go to .NET. :)

I'll bet that was around the time where TacoBell had bad meat and people
were getting sick from the food.

They are back on track again, thank goodness!

On 03/31/2011 01:55 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 3/29/2011 6:22 PM, Goblin wrote:
>> On 03/29/2011 09:08 PM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 3/28/2011 7:31 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You know, Mr. Balanced View, it's funny how I never saw you whining
>>>>> about such things when various cola loser "advocates" were wishing
>>>>> death
>>>>> and cancer on me and other anti-Linux posters.
>>>>>
>>>> And theres been thousands of things which you've said which Ive never
>>>> challenged either.  Unlike you there is life for me outside COLA.
>>>
>>> I can tell:
>>>
>>> "MVP�s and Microsoft Advocates you are on notice,  I record and document
>>> everything and am rather good at building up a profile on users who I
>>> consider dubious."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> How about you link to the "cancer" comments now and I'll challenge
>>>> them.
>>>>    It may make you feel better.  I didn't see them first time
>>>> around....how long ago are we talking about DFS?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "But that wouldn't help DuFuS. The only thing that can
>>> help him is a .357 placed in his mouth and poited at the top of his
>>> head."
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/336f70fd42ed02ff?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "The world would be a better place if Dumfsck was dead."
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/dfd7faa2e7650349?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Somebody needs to shoot DFS in the head."
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b62b292a90f88566?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Fuck off, get cancer and die a long and painfull death."
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/df02019defd5e68a?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Hopefully he will get AIDS from sharing a needle with his crack whore
>>> mother."
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0b52f97f18b27a39?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "You will be visited by three spirits; Vodka, Bourbon and Brandy ...
>>> which you will drink until you pass out, every day for the rest of your
>>> lonely and miserable life. You will die quietly, and unnoticed, in a
>>> ditch somewhere, where you will lie for many days, until someone notices
>>> the smell of rotting flesh."
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8acacd12dc73f0d9?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gee, the "advocates" are revolting...
>>>
>>
>> Why are you linking that silly? I said none of those.  You can't give
>> any "evidence" on me can you, thats why all you can do is link the
>> comments of others.
> 
> I never once claimed you said it.  I said it was "various cola loser
> "advocates"".
> 
> And now here you go again, twisting and sliming and putting words in my
> mouth.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> How about I link a load of Flatfish comments and ask you to justify them?
>>
>> Re: My advocates message, yes.  I do document everything....(and they
>> don't visit the site often) good job too because when they are rumbled
>> they Linkedln accounts seem to mysteriously disapear.  Good job I
>> snapshot them.
> 
> Yeah, you're a real scary web investigator.
> 
> 
> 
>> You spent alot of time posting here today DFS
> 
> No, I did not.
> 
> 
> 
>> and as I say some of us
>> have life outside cola in the real world.
> 
> So you claim.
> 
> 
> 
>> Maybe Ive missed your link to
>> my comment of lifeless brick?  Fancy giving it again? :)
> 
> 
> Why do I have to give links to prove you're a lying idiot who claimed
> that because MS quit making the KIN, previous purchasers were stuck with
> "lifeless bricks"?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> In the meantime though, when the words lifeless brick are used it
>> doesn't mean that successful phones have "life" or that when they fail
>> they actually turn into a brick and lose their life....I hope you don't
>> take everything as literally as that.....
> 
> You claimed that MS quit making the KIN, thus rendering existing KINs
> "lifeless bricks".
> 
> This is a flat-out lie.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Like I say DFS, I am on the end of a skype call.  If you want to discuss
>> what makes you the way you are, please contact me.
> 
> Let's stay on topic with your lies and Linux.
> 
> 
> 
>> A problem shared is a problem halved.
> 
> 
> "A Linux install is a Linux uninstall"
> 

You have to give me proof DFS because I don't recall saying it.  If
somone else had claimed it I might not have questioned.  Since its you
and Ive seen you telling lies repeatedly then I ask you to quote.

As I say DFS the Kin doesn't really lose its life (it didn't have one
its a piece of tech) nor does it actually turn into a brick. Its a
colourful description...its only you who seems to take that literally...

I'll leave you to fester in your pit of self repeating an bogus claims.

Best of British to you DFS, but please, carry on with the silliness.


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On 3/31/2011 5:50 PM, Goblin wrote:

>>> A problem shared is a problem halved.
>>
>>
>> "A Linux install is a Linux uninstall"
>>
>
> You have to give me proof DFS because I don't recall saying it.

It's my quote, ya dense goob.

And why are you always asking me for quotes - don't you know how to use 
Google Groups Advanced Search?




> If
> somone else had claimed it I might not have questioned.  Since its you
> and Ive seen you telling lies repeatedly then I ask you to quote.


Still waiting for proof of my "repeated lies".





> As I say DFS the Kin doesn't really lose its life (it didn't have one
> its a piece of tech) nor does it actually turn into a brick. Its a
> colourful description...its only you who seems to take that literally...

Literally is the only way it can be taken, fool.  Everyone knows what it 
means to 'brick' an electronic device.

Left side of lying idiot's mouth: "Microsoft turned existing KINs into 
lifeless bricks"

Right side of lying idiot's mouth: "I didn't really mean it literally... 
I'm really unbiased... really I am... "





> I'll leave you to fester in your pit of self repeating an bogus claims.

Yes, it was a bogus claim that you made.  Bogus, and dishonest, and 
smarmy, and hypocritical.




> Best of British to you DFS, but please, carry on with the silliness.

Only you are silly, Gooblin.  And dishonest.  And snip-n-run moronic.

On 03/31/2011 11:23 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 3/31/2011 5:50 PM, Goblin wrote:
> 
>>>> A problem shared is a problem halved.
>>>
>>>
>>> "A Linux install is a Linux uninstall"
>>>
>>
>> You have to give me proof DFS because I don't recall saying it.
> 
> It's my quote, ya dense goob.
> 
> And why are you always asking me for quotes - don't you know how to use
> Google Groups Advanced Search?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> If
>> somone else had claimed it I might not have questioned.  Since its you
>> and Ive seen you telling lies repeatedly then I ask you to quote.
> 
> 
> Still waiting for proof of my "repeated lies".
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> As I say DFS the Kin doesn't really lose its life (it didn't have one
>> its a piece of tech) nor does it actually turn into a brick. Its a
>> colourful description...its only you who seems to take that literally...
> 
> Literally is the only way it can be taken, fool.  Everyone knows what it
> means to 'brick' an electronic device.
> 
> Left side of lying idiot's mouth: "Microsoft turned existing KINs into
> lifeless bricks"
> 
> Right side of lying idiot's mouth: "I didn't really mean it literally...
> I'm really unbiased... really I am... "
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> I'll leave you to fester in your pit of self repeating an bogus claims.
> 
> Yes, it was a bogus claim that you made.  Bogus, and dishonest, and
> smarmy, and hypocritical.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Best of British to you DFS, but please, carry on with the silliness.
> 
> Only you are silly, Gooblin.  And dishonest.  And snip-n-run moronic.
> 
> 
> 
> 
Eh?  Ok, so we should all just make claims like you do and then refuse
to give links? - I'll remember that next time and since people

Ok fine.


And you have now shown you have nothing on me.  I'll remember for the
future and merely quote that response.

Of course DFS you seem happy to give links for others quotes which you
are claiming....just not mine.

That says enough for me.  I'll leave you to it.

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On 03/31/2011 11:23 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 3/31/2011 5:50 PM, Goblin wrote:
> 
>>>> A problem shared is a problem halved.
>>>
>>>
>>> "A Linux install is a Linux uninstall"
>>>
>>
>> You have to give me proof DFS because I don't recall saying it.
> 
> It's my quote, ya dense goob.
> 
> And why are you always asking me for quotes - don't you know how to use
> Google Groups Advanced Search?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> If
>> somone else had claimed it I might not have questioned.  Since its you
>> and Ive seen you telling lies repeatedly then I ask you to quote.
> 
> 
> Still waiting for proof of my "repeated lies".
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> As I say DFS the Kin doesn't really lose its life (it didn't have one
>> its a piece of tech) nor does it actually turn into a brick. Its a
>> colourful description...its only you who seems to take that literally...
> 
> Literally is the only way it can be taken, fool.  Everyone knows what it
> means to 'brick' an electronic device.
> 
> Left side of lying idiot's mouth: "Microsoft turned existing KINs into
> lifeless bricks"
> 
> Right side of lying idiot's mouth: "I didn't really mean it literally...
> I'm really unbiased... really I am... "
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> I'll leave you to fester in your pit of self repeating an bogus claims.
> 
> Yes, it was a bogus claim that you made.  Bogus, and dishonest, and
> smarmy, and hypocritical.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Best of British to you DFS, but please, carry on with the silliness.
> 
> Only you are silly, Gooblin.  And dishonest.  And snip-n-run moronic.
> 
> 
> 
> 
Eh?  Ok, so we should all just make claims like you do and then refuse
to give links? - I'll remember that next time.

Ok fine.


And you have now shown you have nothing on me.  I'll remember for the
future and merely quote that response.

Of course DFS you seem happy to give links for others quotes which you
are claiming....just not mine.

That says enough for me.  I'll leave you to it.


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On 3/31/2011 6:45 PM, Goblin wrote:
> On 03/31/2011 11:23 PM, DFS wrote:
>> On 3/31/2011 5:50 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>
>>>>> A problem shared is a problem halved.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "A Linux install is a Linux uninstall"
>>>>
>>>
>>> You have to give me proof DFS because I don't recall saying it.
>>
>> It's my quote, ya dense goob.
>>
>> And why are you always asking me for quotes - don't you know how to use
>> Google Groups Advanced Search?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> If
>>> somone else had claimed it I might not have questioned.  Since its you
>>> and Ive seen you telling lies repeatedly then I ask you to quote.
>>
>>
>> Still waiting for proof of my "repeated lies".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> As I say DFS the Kin doesn't really lose its life (it didn't have one
>>> its a piece of tech) nor does it actually turn into a brick. Its a
>>> colourful description...its only you who seems to take that literally...
>>
>> Literally is the only way it can be taken, fool.  Everyone knows what it
>> means to 'brick' an electronic device.
>>
>> Left side of lying idiot's mouth: "Microsoft turned existing KINs into
>> lifeless bricks"
>>
>> Right side of lying idiot's mouth: "I didn't really mean it literally...
>> I'm really unbiased... really I am... "
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'll leave you to fester in your pit of self repeating an bogus claims.
>>
>> Yes, it was a bogus claim that you made.  Bogus, and dishonest, and
>> smarmy, and hypocritical.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Best of British to you DFS, but please, carry on with the silliness.
>>
>> Only you are silly, Gooblin.  And dishonest.  And snip-n-run moronic.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Eh?  Ok, so we should all just make claims like you do and then refuse
> to give links? - I'll remember that next time and since people
>
> Ok fine.
>
>
> And you have now shown you have nothing on me.  I'll remember for the
> future and merely quote that response.
>
> Of course DFS you seem happy to give links for others quotes which you
> are claiming....just not mine.
>
> That says enough for me.  I'll leave you to it.


Still waiting for proof of my "repeated lies".

Run, Gooblin, run!

Just like a Linux "advocate" always does.

On 3/31/2011 7:20 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 3/31/2011 6:45 PM, Goblin wrote:
>> On 03/31/2011 11:23 PM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 3/31/2011 5:50 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> A problem shared is a problem halved.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "A Linux install is a Linux uninstall"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You have to give me proof DFS because I don't recall saying it.
>>>
>>> It's my quote, ya dense goob.
>>>
>>> And why are you always asking me for quotes - don't you know how to use
>>> Google Groups Advanced Search?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> If
>>>> somone else had claimed it I might not have questioned. Since its you
>>>> and Ive seen you telling lies repeatedly then I ask you to quote.
>>>
>>>
>>> Still waiting for proof of my "repeated lies".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> As I say DFS the Kin doesn't really lose its life (it didn't have one
>>>> its a piece of tech) nor does it actually turn into a brick. Its a
>>>> colourful description...its only you who seems to take that
>>>> literally...
>>>
>>> Literally is the only way it can be taken, fool. Everyone knows what it
>>> means to 'brick' an electronic device.
>>>
>>> Left side of lying idiot's mouth: "Microsoft turned existing KINs into
>>> lifeless bricks"
>>>
>>> Right side of lying idiot's mouth: "I didn't really mean it literally...
>>> I'm really unbiased... really I am... "
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'll leave you to fester in your pit of self repeating an bogus claims.
>>>
>>> Yes, it was a bogus claim that you made. Bogus, and dishonest, and
>>> smarmy, and hypocritical.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Best of British to you DFS, but please, carry on with the silliness.
>>>
>>> Only you are silly, Gooblin. And dishonest. And snip-n-run moronic.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Eh? Ok, so we should all just make claims like you do and then refuse
>> to give links? - I'll remember that next time and since people
>>
>> Ok fine.
>>
>>
>> And you have now shown you have nothing on me. I'll remember for the
>> future and merely quote that response.
>>
>> Of course DFS you seem happy to give links for others quotes which you
>> are claiming....just not mine.
>>
>> That says enough for me. I'll leave you to it.
>
>
> Still waiting for proof of my "repeated lies".
>
> Run, Gooblin, run!
>
> Just like a Linux "advocate" always does.
>

Kick him to the curb already...

From the amount of times you have replied you could have easily shown a
link with ANY of your claims of lies.

Even if I had said that in either COLA,IRC, or Techbytes/Openbytes which
you follow my moves, I don't think "lifeless brick" can be
misinterpreted as a lie, unless of course theres people (apparently you)
who actually believe its possible that the Kin could lose its life and
turn into a brick.

Please (as you claim and as your friend Big Steel says) kick me to the
curb.  I'm still waiting.

This is a newsgroup people can read the thread and make up their own
minds.  Of course you'll have the support of the few trolls here.  I
think Big Steel wants to impress so he/she will support you.  Theres one
person.

As for the rest of the users here, whilst you get into a little rage we
will keep advocating FOSS and/or alternatives to Microsoft.

You Microsoft advocates really should have studied psychology, maybe you
would have realized that by making things personal you only strengthen
someone's resolve in their view.  You probably would have been better
off saying nothing at all.

In the meantime feast your eyes over what people outside of Cola think
of Microsoft on Microsoft's own blog:

http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_on_the_issues/archive/2011/03/21/android-patent-infringement-licensing-is-the-solution.aspx

Enjoy.


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Verily I say unto thee, that Goblin spake thusly:

[unattributed response, presumably to DooFy]

> From the amount of times you have replied you could have easily shown
> a link with ANY of your claims of lies.
>
> Even if I had said that in either COLA,IRC, or Techbytes/Openbytes
> which you follow my moves, I don't think "lifeless brick" can be
> misinterpreted as a lie, unless of course theres people (apparently
> you) who actually believe its possible that the Kin could lose its
> life and turn into a brick.

Well, for example, I called (and still call) the Zzzzoon a turdish-brown
brick, but I don't suppose anyone literally interpreted that to mean it
was a building block constructed from faeces. That was in reference to
the Zzzzooon's less than inspiring original colour, clunky construction,
the fact that DRM-infested music tends to expire (leaving it unplayable)
and a reference to the fact that Microsoft's technology tends to be
somewhat unreliable in general.

But as Sweaty the Impaler once noted, "that's just a factual statement,
not even meant to be pejorative".

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/rd-home-37a4a383-9b55-4692-8a96-b1a44dac0941-files-zune.jpg

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Homer stated in post o4if68-arj.ln1@sky.matrix on 3/31/11 5:16 PM:

> Verily I say unto thee, that Goblin spake thusly:
> 
> [unattributed response, presumably to DooFy]
> 
>> From the amount of times you have replied you could have easily shown
>> a link with ANY of your claims of lies.
>> 
>> Even if I had said that in either COLA,IRC, or Techbytes/Openbytes
>> which you follow my moves, I don't think "lifeless brick" can be
>> misinterpreted as a lie, unless of course theres people (apparently
>> you) who actually believe its possible that the Kin could lose its
>> life and turn into a brick.
> 
> Well, for example, I called (and still call) the Zzzzoon a turdish-brown
> brick, but I don't suppose anyone literally interpreted that to mean it
> was a building block constructed from faeces. That was in reference to
> the Zzzzooon's less than inspiring original colour, clunky construction,
> the fact that DRM-infested music tends to expire (leaving it unplayable)
> and a reference to the fact that Microsoft's technology tends to be
> somewhat unreliable in general.

What DRM method has an expiration date?



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On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:26:19 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 3/31/2011 7:20 PM, DFS wrote:
>> On 3/31/2011 6:45 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>> On 03/31/2011 11:23 PM, DFS wrote:
>>>> On 3/31/2011 5:50 PM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> A problem shared is a problem halved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "A Linux install is a Linux uninstall"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You have to give me proof DFS because I don't recall saying it.
>>>>
>>>> It's my quote, ya dense goob.
>>>>
>>>> And why are you always asking me for quotes - don't you know how to use
>>>> Google Groups Advanced Search?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If
>>>>> somone else had claimed it I might not have questioned. Since its you
>>>>> and Ive seen you telling lies repeatedly then I ask you to quote.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Still waiting for proof of my "repeated lies".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> As I say DFS the Kin doesn't really lose its life (it didn't have one
>>>>> its a piece of tech) nor does it actually turn into a brick. Its a
>>>>> colourful description...its only you who seems to take that
>>>>> literally...
>>>>
>>>> Literally is the only way it can be taken, fool. Everyone knows what it
>>>> means to 'brick' an electronic device.
>>>>
>>>> Left side of lying idiot's mouth: "Microsoft turned existing KINs into
>>>> lifeless bricks"
>>>>
>>>> Right side of lying idiot's mouth: "I didn't really mean it literally...
>>>> I'm really unbiased... really I am... "
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'll leave you to fester in your pit of self repeating an bogus claims.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it was a bogus claim that you made. Bogus, and dishonest, and
>>>> smarmy, and hypocritical.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Best of British to you DFS, but please, carry on with the silliness.
>>>>
>>>> Only you are silly, Gooblin. And dishonest. And snip-n-run moronic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Eh? Ok, so we should all just make claims like you do and then refuse
>>> to give links? - I'll remember that next time and since people
>>>
>>> Ok fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> And you have now shown you have nothing on me. I'll remember for the
>>> future and merely quote that response.
>>>
>>> Of course DFS you seem happy to give links for others quotes which you
>>> are claiming....just not mine.
>>>
>>> That says enough for me. I'll leave you to it.
>>
>>
>> Still waiting for proof of my "repeated lies".
>>
>> Run, Gooblin, run!
>>
>> Just like a Linux "advocate" always does.
>>
> 
> Kick him to the curb already...

Yea, Gooblin is nothing more than a worthless sack of shit.
Don't waste any time with him.