Life after Windows: What happens to tech if Microsoft dies

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<quote>
Life after Windows: What happens to tech if Microsoft dies
By Randall C. Kennedy
January 25, 2010 06:06 AM ET

InfoWorld - It's the thought experiment we all like to engage in. What would 
life be like without Microsoft Windows? To listen to the free open source 
software crowd, the demise of Windows -- and by extension, Microsoft's 
hegemony over the PC universe -- would signal a kind of rebirth for 
information technology. Software would finally be free of the corporate 
shackles that have stifled innovation and dragged down the best and 
brightest among us.
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http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9147878/Life_after_Windows_What_happens_to_tech_if_Microsoft_dies



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Reply Ezekiel 1/25/2010 3:02:39 PM

On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:02:39 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:

> <quote>
> Life after Windows: What happens to tech if Microsoft dies
> By Randall C. Kennedy
> January 25, 2010 06:06 AM ET
> 
> InfoWorld - It's the thought experiment we all like to engage in. What would 
> life be like without Microsoft Windows? To listen to the free open source 
> software crowd, the demise of Windows -- and by extension, Microsoft's 
> hegemony over the PC universe -- would signal a kind of rebirth for 
> information technology. Software would finally be free of the corporate 
> shackles that have stifled innovation and dragged down the best and 
> brightest among us.
> </quote>
> 
> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9147878/Life_after_Windows_What_happens_to_tech_if_Microsoft_dies

That is a pretty bizarre article.
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Reply Erik 1/25/2010 4:19:41 PM


"Erik Funkenbusch" <erik@despam-funkenbusch.com> wrote in message 
news:17i2a7r6s0yla$.dlg@funkenbusch.com...
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:02:39 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> <quote>
>> Life after Windows: What happens to tech if Microsoft dies
>> By Randall C. Kennedy
>> January 25, 2010 06:06 AM ET
>>
>> InfoWorld - It's the thought experiment we all like to engage in. What 
>> would
>> life be like without Microsoft Windows? To listen to the free open source
>> software crowd, the demise of Windows -- and by extension, Microsoft's
>> hegemony over the PC universe -- would signal a kind of rebirth for
>> information technology. Software would finally be free of the corporate
>> shackles that have stifled innovation and dragged down the best and
>> brightest among us.
>> </quote>
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9147878/Life_after_Windows_What_happens_to_tech_if_Microsoft_dies
>

> That is a pretty bizarre article.

I saw Avatar this weekend, and that seemed more down to earth than some of 
the apocalyptic views he was talking about.




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Reply Ezekiel 1/25/2010 4:21:35 PM

On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:21:35 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:

>> That is a pretty bizarre article.
> 
> I saw Avatar this weekend, and that seemed more down to earth than some of 
> the apocalyptic views he was talking about.

While I agree with the basic premise that Microsoft out of the picture
isn't going to create a panacea of innovation, Any "apocolypse" will be
more like a slow slide to oblivion, like boiling a frog.

Right now, it's Microsoft vs "everyone else", and "everyone else" are "my
enemies enemy is my friend".  Once the enemy is neutralized, then "my
ex-enemies enemy is now my enemy" .

In reality, Microsoft is probably promoting more innovation than would
happen if they weren't around. 
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Reply Erik 1/25/2010 4:38:26 PM

Erik Funkenbusch pulled this Usenet boner:

> On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:02:39 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> <quote>
>> Life after Windows: What happens to tech if Microsoft dies
>> By Randall C. Kennedy
>> January 25, 2010 06:06 AM ET
>> 
>> InfoWorld - It's the thought experiment we all like to engage in. What would 
>> life be like without Microsoft Windows? To listen to the free open source 
>> software crowd, the demise of Windows -- and by extension, Microsoft's 
>> hegemony over the PC universe -- would signal a kind of rebirth for 
>> information technology. Software would finally be free of the corporate 
>> shackles that have stifled innovation and dragged down the best and 
>> brightest among us.
>> </quote>
>> 
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9147878/Life_after_Windows_What_happens_to_tech_if_Microsoft_dies
>
> That is a pretty bizarre article.

Yeah, I stopped reading partway through the first page.  Predicting an
apocalyptic free-for-all?

I noticed "JEDIDIAH" posted a comment there.

-- 
The only people for me are the mad ones -- the ones who are mad to live,
mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time,
the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn
like fabulous yellow Roman candles.
		-- Jack Kerouac, "On the Road"
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Reply Chris 1/25/2010 4:50:11 PM

Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

>Right now, it's Microsoft vs "everyone else", and "everyone else" are "my
>enemies enemy is my friend".  Once the enemy is neutralized, then "my
>ex-enemies enemy is now my enemy" .

So?  At least then it won't be one company dominating.

>In reality, Microsoft is probably promoting more innovation than would
>happen if they weren't around. 

LOL  "Microsoft good."  "The killer of competition is good."  "The
strangler of innovation is good."

Bullshit.  

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Reply chrisv 1/25/2010 4:59:27 PM

On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:19:41 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:02:39 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
> 
>> <quote>
>> Life after Windows: What happens to tech if Microsoft dies
>> By Randall C. Kennedy
>> January 25, 2010 06:06 AM ET
>> 
>> InfoWorld - It's the thought experiment we all like to engage in. What would 
>> life be like without Microsoft Windows? To listen to the free open source 
>> software crowd, the demise of Windows -- and by extension, Microsoft's 
>> hegemony over the PC universe -- would signal a kind of rebirth for 
>> information technology. Software would finally be free of the corporate 
>> shackles that have stifled innovation and dragged down the best and 
>> brightest among us.
>> </quote>
>> 
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9147878/Life_after_Windows_What_happens_to_tech_if_Microsoft_dies
> 
> That is a pretty bizarre article.

That's waaaaaaaay out there !
I had to check to make sure it wasn't written by Art Bell or
George Noori.

-- 

1/25/2010 12:13:54 PM
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Reply Moshe 1/25/2010 5:14:38 PM

.... can I have your computer?

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Reply Chris 1/25/2010 6:01:23 PM

On 2010-01-25, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> wrote:
>
>
> Erik Funkenbusch pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:02:39 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Life after Windows: What happens to tech if Microsoft dies
>>> By Randall C. Kennedy
>>> January 25, 2010 06:06 AM ET
>>> 
>>> InfoWorld - It's the thought experiment we all like to engage in. What would 
>>> life be like without Microsoft Windows? To listen to the free open source 
>>> software crowd, the demise of Windows -- and by extension, Microsoft's 
>>> hegemony over the PC universe -- would signal a kind of rebirth for 
>>> information technology. Software would finally be free of the corporate 
>>> shackles that have stifled innovation and dragged down the best and 
>>> brightest among us.
>>> </quote>
>>> 
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9147878/Life_after_Windows_What_happens_to_tech_if_Microsoft_dies
>>
>> That is a pretty bizarre article.
>
> Yeah, I stopped reading partway through the first page.  Predicting an
> apocalyptic free-for-all?
>
> I noticed "JEDIDIAH" posted a comment there.
>

    I always found the whole "Microsoft-uber-alles" nonsense to be terribly
annoying. The whole point of WinDOS was the fact that "everything" is 
available for it. Once the herd starts demanding that you use the current
flavor of the month in anything, that benefit rapidly evaporates.

    The best stuff is usually not advocated. Crap from the monopoly vendor
or at best some other ancient market dominator is pushed to the exclusion 
of all else.

-- 
    If some college kid can replicate your "invention" without seeing   ||| 
any of the details of your patent then you have been granted a patent  / | \
on the "idea" and not the actual implementation.
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Reply JEDIDIAH 1/25/2010 6:59:12 PM

If Microsoft "died", hopefully in some manner that provides restitution
to all its victims, I'd do ... nothing.

A short celebration perhaps, more like a sigh of relief, much as one
might when any other large-scale criminal enterprise is extinguished.

But after that brief blip, my life would continue without Microsoft,
just as it has for years. Business as usual, but better.

As for the author's hysterical and narcissistic hyperbole ... well I
think "hysterical and narcissistic hyperbole" pretty much covers it.

-- 
K.
http://slated.org

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|  - Matt Asay, CNET
`----

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Reply Homer 1/25/2010 7:42:21 PM

Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
> ... can I have your computer?

Make sure he wipes all the viruses off first.

-- 
K.
http://slated.org

..----
| "Proprietary licenses, the crack cocaine of software finance."
|  - Matt Asay, CNET
`----

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Reply Homer 1/25/2010 7:47:21 PM

On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:02:39 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:

> <quote>
> Life after Windows: What happens to tech if Microsoft dies By Randall C.
> Kennedy
> January 25, 2010 06:06 AM ET
> 
> InfoWorld - It's the thought experiment we all like to engage in. What
> would life be like without Microsoft Windows? To listen to the free open
> source software crowd, the demise of Windows -- and by extension,
> Microsoft's hegemony over the PC universe -- would signal a kind of
> rebirth for information technology. Software would finally be free of
> the corporate shackles that have stifled innovation and dragged down the
> best and brightest among us.
> </quote>
> 
> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9147878/
Life_after_Windows_What_happens_to_tech_if_Microsoft_dies

Opinions are like ***holes. Everyone has one.

-- 
RonB
Registered Linux User #498581
CentOS 5.4 or Vector Linux Deluxe 6.0
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Reply RonB 1/25/2010 8:12:10 PM

RonB stated in post hjktuq$4jr$1@news.eternal-september.org on 1/25/10 1:12
PM:

> On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:02:39 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
> 
>> <quote>
>> Life after Windows: What happens to tech if Microsoft dies By Randall C.
>> Kennedy
>> January 25, 2010 06:06 AM ET
>> 
>> InfoWorld - It's the thought experiment we all like to engage in. What
>> would life be like without Microsoft Windows? To listen to the free open
>> source software crowd, the demise of Windows -- and by extension,
>> Microsoft's hegemony over the PC universe -- would signal a kind of
>> rebirth for information technology. Software would finally be free of
>> the corporate shackles that have stifled innovation and dragged down the
>> best and brightest among us.
>> </quote>
>> 
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9147878/
> Life_after_Windows_What_happens_to_tech_if_Microsoft_dies
> 
> Opinions are like ***holes. Everyone has one.

Which is one of the reasons evidence based science is important... but you
think only "cranks" care about that.



-- 
[INSERT .SIG HERE]


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Reply Snit 1/25/2010 8:50:31 PM

On Jan 25, 7:02=A0am, "Ezekiel" <not-z...@the-zeke.com> wrote:
> <quote>
> Life after Windows: What happens to tech if Microsoft dies
> By Randall C. Kennedy
> January 25, 2010 06:06 AM ET
> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9147878/Life_after_Windows_What_ha=
ppens_to_tech_if_Microsoft_dies

Here's the comment I posted.  We'll see if Computerworld
ever publishes it:

Open Source software, in particular GNU/Linux and
the application programs that run on it, are already
being used instead of Microsoft Windows by tens of
millions of people all over the world.  See for
example the article on Linux Adoption in Wikipedia.
The governments of many nations have officially
adopted Linux and Open Source and are phasing out
the use of Microsoft products.

There are standards developed by international
organizations that insure intercommunication of
data, such as the HTML standard for the World Wide
Web, and the Open Document Format for office
word-processor documents, spreadsheets,
presentations, etc., implemented by the free
OpenOffice.org office program suite.  The POSIX
standard enables interoperability of software and
operating systems, and source code compatibility.
See Wikipedia on HTML, Open Document, and POSIX.

Microsoft has often violated such standards,
creating, e.g., incompatible websites and office
documents with its software, in order to force users
to buy only Microsoft products in order to maintain
access to their data.  This is called "vendor
lock-in".  Internally, Microsoft uses the phrase
"Embrace, extend and extinguish" (see the Wikipedia
article on that topic) to describe its strategy for
destroying international software standards.  But it
is now being forced to comply by court decisions and
competition.

Why haven't more people heard of Linux/Open-Source,
and adopted it?  Why does this major article in
Computerworld not mention it even once?  Because
Microsoft uses coercive business tactics to prevent
people from even learning about Linux.  Microsoft
threatens to remove its advertising from
publications that run articles on Linux.  It forbids
computer manufacturers from loading any other
operating system on computers along with Windows.
Microsoft financed the SCO corporation with
100 million dollars to prosecute bogus lawsuits for
years against Linux vendors and customers based on
entirely false claims that Linux software contained
code belonging to SCO.

Linux/Open-Source is more stable and reliable than
MS-Windows because it's based on the Unix operating
system that was developed by Bell Labs and used in
universities beginning in the early 1970s.  As a
multiuser system, Unix had security built into it
from the start, while MS-DOS and MS-Windows were
designed to execute any program that came in on an
e-mail or word-processor document, leaving them open
to attack by more than a million different computer
viruses.  Linux systems don't need any anti-virus
software.

All software has occasional vulnerabilities due to
programming errors.  Microsoft sends out Service
Packs to correct these about once a year, and they
deal only with errors in Microsoft products, not
the other application programs that run under
Windows.  The major Linux vendors send out updates
to correct vulnerabilities within a few days of
their discovery, and they cover both the operating
system and all the application software.  These
updates are either installed automatically, or are
indicated to the user by a little red flag on the
screen, so they can be installed with a few mouse
clicks.

With all these advantages, is Linux/Open-Source
software expensive?  Actually, you can get it all
for free!  Just download it via the Web, where it's
provided by the Linux vendors.  They'll sell you
a service contract if you want it for your business
-- that's how they make their money.  But you can
get free help via Usenet, Web forums, mailing lists,
chat rooms, etc.  And the folks in your local Linux
User Group will even be happy to arrange for you to
bring in your computer so they can install the
software on it for free!

As to cloud computing, I would not trust my precious
personal or business data to the computers of some
corporation.  Today's personal computers have as
much power, and a lot more disk space, than the
supercomputers of decades past.  A $600 PC today
can easily do 20 billion instructions per second,
whereas a DEC VAX-11/780 minicomputer, which was
often used to serve an entire university in the
1980's, could only do 500 thousand per second, at
100 times the price.  A 1000 gigabyte disk drive now
costs only $70.  Individuals and businesses who value
the privacy and security of their data, and their
freedom to choose the software they want, will use
and control these marvelously powerful and
inexpensive machines themselves.

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Reply Mark 1/25/2010 9:27:23 PM

Homer pulled this Usenet boner:

> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>> ... can I have your computer?
>
> Make sure he wipes all the viruses off first.

Not to worry.  I would wipe the whole damn thing and replace it with a nice
fresh filesystem.

-- 
I will honour Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year.  I
will live in the Past, the Present, and the Future.  The Spirits of all
Three shall strive within me.  I will not shut out the lessons that they
teach.  Oh, tell me that I may sponge away the writing on this stone!
		-- Charles Dickens
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Reply Chris 1/25/2010 10:12:08 PM

Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
> Homer pulled this Usenet boner:
>> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>>> ... can I have your computer?
>> 
>> Make sure he wipes all the viruses off first.
> 
> Not to worry.  I would wipe the whole damn thing and replace it with 
> a nice fresh filesystem.

Actually I was referring to the keyboard.

-- 
K.
http://slated.org

..----
| "Proprietary licenses, the crack cocaine of software finance."
|  - Matt Asay, CNET
`----

Fedora release 8 (Werewolf) on sky, running kernel 2.6.31.5
 22:33:06 up 78 days,  8:55,  5 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.11, 0.08
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Reply Homer 1/25/2010 10:33:20 PM

On 2010-01-25, Homer <usenet@slated.org> wrote:
> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>> Homer pulled this Usenet boner:
>>> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>>>> ... can I have your computer?
>>> 
>>> Make sure he wipes all the viruses off first.
>> 
>> Not to worry.  I would wipe the whole damn thing and replace it with 
>> a nice fresh filesystem.
>
> Actually I was referring to the keyboard.

LOL

-- 
Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power
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Reply Gregory 1/26/2010 5:44:37 AM

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