"I don't really have an answer for you. Yes, it is a big job. It seems 
that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some kind of 
freezing problems. My version of Debian and PCLOS still uses 2.6.31 kernel."


#870 at
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=87




Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...

On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:38:36 -0400, the ignoramus DFS wrote:

> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...

~> uptime
 08:33:55 up 10 days, 14:47, 13 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.05

uname -r
2.6.33.5-server-2mnb

You were saying arsehole?

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:39:02 +0000, Hardon wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:38:36 -0400, the ignoramus DFS wrote:
> 
>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
> 
> ~> uptime
>  08:33:55 up 10 days, 14:47, 13 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.05
> 
> uname -r
> 2.6.33.5-server-2mnb
> 
> You were saying arsehole?

uptime
00:03:39 up 18 days, 19:43,  2 users,  load average: 1.29, 0.93, 0.65

uname -r
2.6.32-24-generic

And that's on a laptop. :)

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 00:04:43 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:39:02 +0000, Hardon wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:38:36 -0400, the ignoramus DFS wrote:
>> 
>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>> 
>> ~> uptime
>>  08:33:55 up 10 days, 14:47, 13 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.05
>> 
>> uname -r
>> 2.6.33.5-server-2mnb
>> 
>> You were saying arsehole?
> 
> uptime
> 00:03:39 up 18 days, 19:43,  2 users,  load average: 1.29, 0.93, 0.65
> 
> uname -r
> 2.6.32-24-generic
> 
> And that's on a laptop. :)

That was my main PC which is on 24x7. The 'pathetic' uptime is due to
a recent power failure during a thunderstorm. :-)

DFS wrote:

> "I don't really have an answer for you. Yes, it is a big job. It seems
> that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some kind of
> freezing problems. My version of Debian and PCLOS still uses 2.6.31
> kernel."
> 
> 
> #870 at
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=87
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
@AttilaII:~$ uptime
 10:06:01 up 7 days, 23:16,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
@AttilaII:~$ uname -a
Linux AttilaII 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Jul 24 01:47:24 UTC 2010 x86_64 
GNU/Linux
I must be doing something wrong? Or maybe uname is lying about which kernel 
I have installed!?! ;)

Attila, The Freetard from Hell

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:10:25 +0200, Attila wrote:

> DFS wrote:
> 
>> "I don't really have an answer for you. Yes, it is a big job. It
>> seems that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some
>> kind of freezing problems. My version of Debian and PCLOS still
>> uses 2.6.31 kernel."
>> 
>> #870 at
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=87
>> 
>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
> @AttilaII:~$ uptime
>  10:06:01 up 7 days, 23:16,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
> @AttilaII:~$ uname -a
> Linux AttilaII 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Jul 24 01:47:24 UTC 2010 x86_64
> GNU/Linux
> I must be doing something wrong? Or maybe uname is lying about which
> kernel I have installed!?! ;)

Neither, DFS is just a typical wintroll, ie he's lying again.

On 2010-08-19, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>
>
> "I don't really have an answer for you. Yes, it is a big job. It seems 
> that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some kind of 
> freezing problems. My version of Debian and PCLOS still uses 2.6.31 kernel."
>
>
> #870 at
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=87
>
>
>
>
> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...

    In general, changing things willy-nilly is a bad idea. This is 
something that is really only commonplace due to tendency of Microsoft
products to need constant updates for both revenue generation and to
address their many dire security faults.

    OTOH, my 10.04 boxes are quite happy running a "newer" kernel.

-- 
	Metallica is not worth the ruination of someone               |||
	who has pirated their music                                  / | \

On 8/19/2010 2:39 AM, Hardon wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:38:36 -0400, the ignoramus DFS wrote:
>
>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>
> ~>  uptime
>   08:33:55 up 10 days, 14:47, 13 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.05
>
> uname -r
> 2.6.33.5-server-2mnb
>
> You were saying arsehole?


I was saying the Ubuntu victim reported freezing problems with Ubuntu, 
Mandriva and Suse, all of which use a kernel later than 2.6.31, but the 
two distros that don't freeze on him - Debian and PCLinuxOS - use kernel 
2.6.31.

I was also saying this is obviously about desktop systems, so why are 
you puffing your chest out and bellowing about one server?

Finally, I was saying you have low self-esteem and have to use a lame 
variation of someone else's nym to be noticed.  Short man with Mommy issues?

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:46:30 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:

>On 8/19/2010 2:39 AM, Hardon wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:38:36 -0400, the ignoramus DFS wrote:
>>
>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>>
>> ~>  uptime
>>   08:33:55 up 10 days, 14:47, 13 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.05
>>
>> uname -r
>> 2.6.33.5-server-2mnb
>>
>> You were saying arsehole?
>
>
>I was saying the Ubuntu victim reported freezing problems with Ubuntu, 
>Mandriva and Suse, all of which use a kernel later than 2.6.31, but the 
>two distros that don't freeze on him - Debian and PCLinuxOS - use kernel 
>2.6.31.



>I was also saying this is obviously about desktop systems, so why are 
>you puffing your chest out and bellowing about one server?

It's the old Linturd switcheroo....
You say desktop they say server.
You say PC they say super computer.
etc.

>Finally, I was saying you have low self-esteem and have to use a lame 
>variation of someone else's nym to be noticed.  Short man with Mommy issues?

And probably small too.
-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Linux...Disappointing users for 19 years.
Linux::It's free when your time has no value.
See Liarmutt in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazBzvQ0ZAM

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 00:04:43 -0700,  Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:39:02 +0000, Hardon wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:38:36 -0400, the ignoramus DFS wrote:
>> 
>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>> 
>> ~> uptime
>>  08:33:55 up 10 days, 14:47, 13 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.05
>> 
>> uname -r
>> 2.6.33.5-server-2mnb
>> 
>> You were saying arsehole?
> 
> uptime
> 00:03:39 up 18 days, 19:43,  2 users,  load average: 1.29, 0.93, 0.65
> 
> uname -r
> 2.6.32-24-generic
> 
> And that's on a laptop. :)

uname -a 2.6.33.5-desktop586-2mnb #1 SMP Thu Jun 17 19:54:13 UTC 2010 
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

uptime
 17:44:27 up 6 days,  7:42,  5 users,  load average: 0.14, 0.05, 0.05

*This* laptop. Hang on - 5 users? OIC - 3 terminal windows, xdm, and kde.

"Hardon" <hardon.quark@gmail.com> schreef in bericht 
news:i4ingn$715$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 00:04:43 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:39:02 +0000, Hardon wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:38:36 -0400, the ignoramus DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>>>
>>> ~> uptime
>>>  08:33:55 up 10 days, 14:47, 13 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.05
>>>
>>> uname -r
>>> 2.6.33.5-server-2mnb
>>>
>>> You were saying arsehole?
>>
>> uptime
>> 00:03:39 up 18 days, 19:43,  2 users,  load average: 1.29, 0.93, 0.65
>>
>> uname -r
>> 2.6.32-24-generic
>>
>> And that's on a laptop. :)
>
> That was my main PC which is on 24x7. The 'pathetic' uptime is due to
> a recent power failure during a thunderstorm. :-)


The power plant must be running Linux, it attracts disaster! 

On 2010-08-19, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> On 2010-08-19, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> "I don't really have an answer for you. Yes, it is a big job. It seems 
>> that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some kind of 
>> freezing problems. My version of Debian and PCLOS still uses 2.6.31 kernel."
>>
>>
>> #870 at
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=87
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>
>     In general, changing things willy-nilly is a bad idea. This is 
> something that is really only commonplace due to tendency of Microsoft
> products to need constant updates for both revenue generation and to
> address their many dire security faults.
>
>     OTOH, my 10.04 boxes are quite happy running a "newer" kernel.

There can be problems when updates to userland apps require a kernel
that is newer than your current one.

On Gentoo you really *have* to keep your machines constantly updated and
deal with the issues as they arise. This is not a distribution for the
faint-hearted. Things break often and you have to be an experienced
Linux admin to keep things running in top condition. If you want a "set
and forget" distro then choose something like Debian.

Gentoo suits developers and tinkerers. Again, it's about choosing the
right distro for the right job. It's an argument on the side of
diversity and against the "one distro fits all" mentality.

BTW... This computer has run since 2006 without a reinstall. My large
desktop has been running since 2004 without a reinstall. On Gentoo
there's no such as a new *version* release. Updates happen in a rolling
fashion, continuously. I'm always using the latest and greatest that
you'll find on the safe and stable side of the bleeding edge.

I'm not about to change my Distribution, nor my OS.... the hardware is
getting old though and needs replacement.

-- 
Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

Gregory Shearman posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> On Gentoo you really *have* to keep your machines constantly updated and
> deal with the issues as they arise. This is not a distribution for the
> faint-hearted. Things break often and you have to be an experienced
> Linux admin to keep things running in top condition. If you want a "set
> and forget" distro then choose something like Debian.

   :-D

> Gentoo suits developers and tinkerers. Again, it's about choosing the
> right distro for the right job. It's an argument on the side of
> diversity and against the "one distro fits all" mentality.
>
> BTW... This computer has run since 2006 without a reinstall. My large
> desktop has been running since 2004 without a reinstall. On Gentoo
> there's no such as a new *version* release. Updates happen in a rolling
> fashion, continuously. I'm always using the latest and greatest that
> you'll find on the safe and stable side of the bleeding edge.
>
> I'm not about to change my Distribution, nor my OS.... the hardware is
> getting old though and needs replacement.

My hardware is getting old.  I've got chronic turf toe, my hips are creaky,
I can barely kick a soccer ball, and I never get enough sleep.

-- 
Preserve your software!  The rest is meat.

On 2010-08-20, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> wrote:
> Gregory Shearman posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> On Gentoo you really *have* to keep your machines constantly updated and
>> deal with the issues as they arise. This is not a distribution for the
>> faint-hearted. Things break often and you have to be an experienced
>> Linux admin to keep things running in top condition. If you want a "set
>> and forget" distro then choose something like Debian.
>
>    :-D
>
>> Gentoo suits developers and tinkerers. Again, it's about choosing the
>> right distro for the right job. It's an argument on the side of
>> diversity and against the "one distro fits all" mentality.
>>
>> BTW... This computer has run since 2006 without a reinstall. My large
>> desktop has been running since 2004 without a reinstall. On Gentoo
>> there's no such as a new *version* release. Updates happen in a rolling
>> fashion, continuously. I'm always using the latest and greatest that
>> you'll find on the safe and stable side of the bleeding edge.
>>
>> I'm not about to change my Distribution, nor my OS.... the hardware is
>> getting old though and needs replacement.
>
> My hardware is getting old.  I've got chronic turf toe, my hips are creaky,
> I can barely kick a soccer ball, and I never get enough sleep.

You need an upgrade.

-- 
Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

On 2010-08-20, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
> Gregory Shearman posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> On Gentoo you really *have* to keep your machines constantly
>> updated and deal with the issues as they arise. This is not a
>> distribution for the faint-hearted. Things break often and you have
>> to be an experienced Linux admin to keep things running in top
>> condition. If you want a "set and forget" distro then choose
>> something like Debian.
>
>    :-D

Haha, that *is* a funny remark. Depending on where you stand, Debian
may be advanced and for tinkerers or easy-peasy and for those who want
to 'set and forget'.

It kind of validates having hundrerds of distros at our disposal,
doesn't it.

>> Gentoo suits developers and tinkerers. Again, it's about choosing
>> the right distro for the right job. It's an argument on the side of
>> diversity and against the "one distro fits all" mentality.
>>
>> BTW... This computer has run since 2006 without a reinstall. My
>> large desktop has been running since 2004 without a reinstall. On
>> Gentoo there's no such as a new *version* release. Updates happen
>> in a rolling fashion, continuously. I'm always using the latest and
>> greatest that you'll find on the safe and stable side of the
>> bleeding edge.
>>
>> I'm not about to change my Distribution, nor my OS.... the hardware
>> is getting old though and needs replacement.
>
> My hardware is getting old.  I've got chronic turf toe, my hips are
> creaky, I can barely kick a soccer ball, and I never get enough
> sleep.

As long as you have a UNIX brain, you'll do just fine ;-)

-- 
 08:37:40 up  1:26,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.05

TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> On 2010-08-20, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
>>
>> My hardware is getting old.  I've got chronic turf toe, my hips are
>> creaky, I can barely kick a soccer ball, and I never get enough
>> sleep.
>
> As long as you have a UNIX brain, you'll do just fine ;-)
>
> -- 
>  08:37:40 up  1:26,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.05

 08:16:16 up 25 days, 22:24,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.02

That's my computer.  Here's me:

 08:16:16 up 19428 days, 08:08,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

-- 
"I'd love to go out with you, but I did my own thing and now I've got
to undo it."

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 06:51:13 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> wrote:


>My hardware is getting old.  I've got chronic turf toe, my hips are creaky,
>I can barely kick a soccer ball, and I never get enough sleep.

But your lips are the finest in the COLA land.
Just ask Roy!
-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Linux...Disappointing users for 19 years.
Linux::It's free when your time has no value.
See Liarmutt in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazBzvQ0ZAM

In article <i4lrnj$trt$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> wrote:

> TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
> 
> > On 2010-08-20, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
> >>
> >> My hardware is getting old.  I've got chronic turf toe, my hips are
> >> creaky, I can barely kick a soccer ball, and I never get enough
> >> sleep.
> >
> > As long as you have a UNIX brain, you'll do just fine ;-)
> >
> > -- 
> >  08:37:40 up  1:26,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.05
> 
>  08:16:16 up 25 days, 22:24,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.02
> 
> That's my computer.  Here's me:
> 
>  08:16:16 up 19428 days, 08:08,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

Yeah, but like most people you're probably offline about 30% of the time 
for routine system maintenance. Individual humans provide pretty bad 
availability. In critical systems (e.g. passenger airline guidance), the 
use of hot spares is indicated.

-- 
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes

On 2010-08-20, Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 2010-08-19, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>> On 2010-08-19, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "I don't really have an answer for you. Yes, it is a big job. It seems 
>>> that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some kind of 
>>> freezing problems. My version of Debian and PCLOS still uses 2.6.31 kernel."
>>>
>>>
>>> #870 at
>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=87
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>>
>>     In general, changing things willy-nilly is a bad idea. This is 
>> something that is really only commonplace due to tendency of Microsoft
>> products to need constant updates for both revenue generation and to
>> address their many dire security faults.
>>
>>     OTOH, my 10.04 boxes are quite happy running a "newer" kernel.
>
> There can be problems when updates to userland apps require a kernel
> that is newer than your current one.

    Got an example?

[deletia]

-- 
    ...of course if you are forced against your will to use Windows in    |||
the day time your bound to have a lot to vent about in the evening.      / | \

On 2010-08-20, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> wrote:
> TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> On 2010-08-20, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
>>>
>>> My hardware is getting old.  I've got chronic turf toe, my hips are
>>> creaky, I can barely kick a soccer ball, and I never get enough
>>> sleep.
>>
>> As long as you have a UNIX brain, you'll do just fine ;-)
>>
>> -- 
>>  08:37:40 up  1:26,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.05
>
>  08:16:16 up 25 days, 22:24,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.02
>
> That's my computer.  Here's me:
>
>  08:16:16 up 19428 days, 08:08,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

TWO users?

Who else is in there with you???

-- 
Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:46:30 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 8/19/2010 2:39 AM, Hardon wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:38:36 -0400, the ignoramus DFS wrote:
>>
>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>>
>> ~>  uptime
>>   08:33:55 up 10 days, 14:47, 13 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.05
>>
>> uname -r
>> 2.6.33.5-server-2mnb
>>
>> You were saying arsehole?
> 
> I was saying the Ubuntu victim reported freezing problems with
> Ubuntu, Mandriva and Suse, all of which use a kernel later than
> 2.6.31, but the two distros that don't freeze on him - Debian and
> PCLinuxOS - use kernel 2.6.31.

You made an unwarranted generalisation based on one persons report. I
run mandriva and have no freezing problems at work or at home.

> I was also saying this is obviously about desktop systems, so why
> are you puffing your chest out and bellowing about one server?

I see you think I'm running a server because my kernel version has
server in it. You are an ignorant boy. That is the kernel used by
mandriva for 32 bit versions with more than 4GB ram.

> Finally, I was saying you have low self-esteem and have to use a
> lame variation of someone else's nym to be noticed.  Short man with
> Mommy issues?

I didn't realise your original post was specifically directed at me or
is English not your native tongue. You seem confused. Perhaps you need
a rest from trolling. Get a real job, learn a useful computer language
and a reliable, secure and extremely flexible OS unlike the toy system
you play with.

Hardon wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:46:30 -0400, DFS wrote:
> 
>> On 8/19/2010 2:39 AM, Hardon wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:38:36 -0400, the ignoramus DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>>>
>>> ~>  uptime
>>>   08:33:55 up 10 days, 14:47, 13 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.05
>>>
>>> uname -r
>>> 2.6.33.5-server-2mnb
>>>
>>> You were saying arsehole?
>> 
>> I was saying the Ubuntu victim reported freezing problems with Ubuntu,
>> Mandriva and Suse, all of which use a kernel later than 2.6.31, but the
>> two distros that don't freeze on him - Debian and PCLinuxOS - use
>> kernel 2.6.31.
> 
> You made an unwarranted generalisation based on one persons report. I
> run mandriva and have no freezing problems at work or at home.
> 
>> I was also saying this is obviously about desktop systems, so why are
>> you puffing your chest out and bellowing about one server?
> 
> I see you think I'm running a server because my kernel version has
> server in it. You are an ignorant boy. That is the kernel used by
> mandriva for 32 bit versions with more than 4GB ram.
> 
>> Finally, I was saying you have low self-esteem and have to use a lame
>> variation of someone else's nym to be noticed.  Short man with Mommy
>> issues?
> 
> I didn't realise your original post was specifically directed at me or
> is English not your native tongue. You seem confused. Perhaps you need a
> rest from trolling. Get a real job, learn a useful computer language and
> a reliable, secure and extremely flexible OS unlike the toy system you
> play with.


Hello Hardon. Have you ever posted as Roy Culley, even once?

Hardon <hardon.quark@gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:46:30 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 8/19/2010 2:39 AM, Hardon wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:38:36 -0400, the ignoramus DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>>>
>>> ~>  uptime
>>>   08:33:55 up 10 days, 14:47, 13 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.05
>>>
>>> uname -r
>>> 2.6.33.5-server-2mnb
>>>
>>> You were saying arsehole?
>> 
>> I was saying the Ubuntu victim reported freezing problems with
>> Ubuntu, Mandriva and Suse, all of which use a kernel later than
>> 2.6.31, but the two distros that don't freeze on him - Debian and
>> PCLinuxOS - use kernel 2.6.31.
>
> You made an unwarranted generalisation based on one persons report. I
> run mandriva and have no freezing problems at work or at home.
>
>> I was also saying this is obviously about desktop systems, so why
>> are you puffing your chest out and bellowing about one server?
>
> I see you think I'm running a server because my kernel version has
> server in it. You are an ignorant boy. That is the kernel used by
> mandriva for 32 bit versions with more than 4GB ram.

Erm, because most people are NOT using the server kernel...

>
>> Finally, I was saying you have low self-esteem and have to use a
>> lame variation of someone else's nym to be noticed.  Short man with
>> Mommy issues?
>
> I didn't realise your original post was specifically directed at me or
> is English not your native tongue. You seem confused. Perhaps you need
> a rest from trolling. Get a real job, learn a useful computer language
> and a reliable, secure and extremely flexible OS unlike the toy system
> you play with.

You arent bad at copying other people's style. Not good. But not bad
either.

Gregory Shearman posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> On 2010-08-20, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> wrote:
>> TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>
>>> On 2010-08-20, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
>>>>
>>>> My hardware is getting old.  I've got chronic turf toe, my hips are
>>>> creaky, I can barely kick a soccer ball, and I never get enough
>>>> sleep.
>>>
>>> As long as you have a UNIX brain, you'll do just fine ;-)
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>  08:37:40 up  1:26,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.05
>>
>>  08:16:16 up 25 days, 22:24,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.02
>>
>> That's my computer.  Here's me:
>>
>>  08:16:16 up 19428 days, 08:08,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
>
> TWO users?
>
> Who else is in there with you???

   ;->

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Hardon posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:46:30 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> I was saying the Ubuntu victim reported freezing problems with
>> Ubuntu, Mandriva and Suse, all of which use a kernel later than
>> 2.6.31, but the two distros that don't freeze on him - Debian and
>> PCLinuxOS - use kernel 2.6.31.

Linux payole 2.6.32-3-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 24 18:07:42 UTC 2010 x86_64

> I didn't realise your original post was specifically directed at me or
> is English not your native tongue. You seem confused. Perhaps you need
> a rest from trolling. Get a real job, learn a useful computer language
> and a reliable, secure and extremely flexible OS unlike the toy system
> you play with.

COLA *is* DFS's job.  Don't make him post his tax form or source code again!

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Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> writes:

> Hardon posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:46:30 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> I was saying the Ubuntu victim reported freezing problems with
>>> Ubuntu, Mandriva and Suse, all of which use a kernel later than
>>> 2.6.31, but the two distros that don't freeze on him - Debian and
>>> PCLinuxOS - use kernel 2.6.31.
>
> Linux payole 2.6.32-3-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 24 18:07:42 UTC 2010 x86_64
>
>> I didn't realise your original post was specifically directed at me or
>> is English not your native tongue. You seem confused. Perhaps you need
>> a rest from trolling. Get a real job, learn a useful computer language
>> and a reliable, secure and extremely flexible OS unlike the toy system
>> you play with.
>
> COLA *is* DFS's job.  Don't make him post his tax form or source code again!

Maybe he should just make brash claims like you do?

It seems DFS oWnZ you too.

He can hardly drop a fart without your muzzle darting for his rear end.

On 8/21/2010 2:22 AM, Hardon wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:46:30 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 8/19/2010 2:39 AM, Hardon wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:38:36 -0400, the ignoramus DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>>>
>>> ~>   uptime
>>>    08:33:55 up 10 days, 14:47, 13 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.05
>>>
>>> uname -r
>>> 2.6.33.5-server-2mnb
>>>
>>> You were saying arsehole?
>>
>> I was saying the Ubuntu victim reported freezing problems with
>> Ubuntu, Mandriva and Suse, all of which use a kernel later than
>> 2.6.31, but the two distros that don't freeze on him - Debian and
>> PCLinuxOS - use kernel 2.6.31.
>
> You made an unwarranted generalisation based on one persons report. I
> run mandriva and have no freezing problems at work or at home.

I didn't generalize anything.  The Linux victim did.



>> I was also saying this is obviously about desktop systems, so why
>> are you puffing your chest out and bellowing about one server?
>
> I see you think I'm running a server because my kernel version has
> server in it. You are an ignorant boy. That is the kernel used by
> mandriva for 32 bit versions with more than 4GB ram.

Silly ignorant me - everyone knows that.




>> Finally, I was saying you have low self-esteem and have to use a
>> lame variation of someone else's nym to be noticed.  Short man with
>> Mommy issues?
>
> I didn't realise your original post was specifically directed at me or
> is English not your native tongue. You seem confused. Perhaps you need
> a rest from trolling. Get a real job, learn a useful computer language
> and a reliable, secure and extremely flexible OS unlike the toy system
> you play with.


I don't need a job, or any computer languages.

As for toy systems, even Linux users consider it a child's plaything: 
"No one is going to consider Ubuntu as a serious OS at this rate because 
at the moment it's nothing more than a novel toy."

#423 at
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=43

DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> writes:

> On 8/21/2010 2:22 AM, Hardon wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:46:30 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/19/2010 2:39 AM, Hardon wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:38:36 -0400, the ignoramus DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>>>>
>>>> ~>   uptime
>>>>    08:33:55 up 10 days, 14:47, 13 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.05
>>>>
>>>> uname -r
>>>> 2.6.33.5-server-2mnb
>>>>
>>>> You were saying arsehole?
>>>
>>> I was saying the Ubuntu victim reported freezing problems with
>>> Ubuntu, Mandriva and Suse, all of which use a kernel later than
>>> 2.6.31, but the two distros that don't freeze on him - Debian and
>>> PCLinuxOS - use kernel 2.6.31.
>>
>> You made an unwarranted generalisation based on one persons report. I
>> run mandriva and have no freezing problems at work or at home.
>
> I didn't generalize anything.  The Linux victim did.
>
>>> I was also saying this is obviously about desktop systems, so why
>>> are you puffing your chest out and bellowing about one server?
>>
>> I see you think I'm running a server because my kernel version has
>> server in it. You are an ignorant boy. That is the kernel used by
>> mandriva for 32 bit versions with more than 4GB ram.
>
> Silly ignorant me - everyone knows that.
>
>>> Finally, I was saying you have low self-esteem and have to use a
>>> lame variation of someone else's nym to be noticed.  Short man with
>>> Mommy issues?
>>
>> I didn't realise your original post was specifically directed at me or
>> is English not your native tongue. You seem confused. Perhaps you need
>> a rest from trolling. Get a real job, learn a useful computer language
>> and a reliable, secure and extremely flexible OS unlike the toy system
>> you play with.
>
> I don't need a job, or any computer languages.
>
> As for toy systems, even Linux users consider it a child's plaything: 
> "No one is going to consider Ubuntu as a serious OS at this rate because 
> at the moment it's nothing more than a novel toy."
>
> #423 at
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=43

They should take Raytard's advice and "wait for the bugs to be ironed
out.". I mean, its not supposed to be a stable LTS is it? Oh. It is.

,----
| +1 for this, please can everyone add on to that bug report. To have this
| kind of issue in an LTS is really frustrating!
`----

Willy Poaster was right. Only an idiot would choose Ubuntu for real work
.....

On 8/21/2010 10:55 AM, Hadron wrote:

> They should take Raytard's advice and "wait for the bugs to be ironed
> out.". I mean, its not supposed to be a stable LTS is it? Oh. It is.
>
> ,----
> | +1 for this, please can everyone add on to that bug report. To have this
> | kind of issue in an LTS is really frustrating!
> `----
>
> Willy Poaster was right. Only an idiot would choose Ubuntu for real work
> ....


According to Ian Hilliard, "all Ubuntu stability issues seem to have 
been fixed".

They see it differently over on the Ubuntu forums, where they've been 
screaming for months for the developers to even acknowledge their agony 
and random freezing and lockups.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 18:42:46 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:

>On 8/21/2010 10:55 AM, Hadron wrote:
>
>> They should take Raytard's advice and "wait for the bugs to be ironed
>> out.". I mean, its not supposed to be a stable LTS is it? Oh. It is.
>>
>> ,----
>> | +1 for this, please can everyone add on to that bug report. To have this
>> | kind of issue in an LTS is really frustrating!
>> `----
>>
>> Willy Poaster was right. Only an idiot would choose Ubuntu for real work
>> ....
>
>
>According to Ian Hilliard, "all Ubuntu stability issues seem to have 
>been fixed".
>
>They see it differently over on the Ubuntu forums, where they've been 
>screaming for months for the developers to even acknowledge their agony 
>and random freezing and lockups.

I'd love to see the COLA idiots like Porter, HPT and others go to the
Ubuntu forums and attempt to pull that "works for me" bull shit.

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On 2010-08-20, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> On 2010-08-20, Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2010-08-19, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>> On 2010-08-19, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "I don't really have an answer for you. Yes, it is a big job. It
>>>> seems that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some
>>>> kind of freezing problems. My version of Debian and PCLOS still
>>>> uses 2.6.31 kernel."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> #870 at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=87
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>>>
>>>     In general, changing things willy-nilly is a bad idea. This is
>>>     something that is really only commonplace due to tendency of
>>>     Microsoft products to need constant updates for both revenue
>>>     generation and to address their many dire security faults.
>>>
>>>     OTOH, my 10.04 boxes are quite happy running a "newer" kernel.
>>
>> There can be problems when updates to userland apps require a kernel
>> that is newer than your current one.
>
>     Got an example?
>

LVM and the X suite.. xorg-server and its "drivers".

-- 
Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

On 2010-08-22, Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 2010-08-20, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>> On 2010-08-20, Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2010-08-19, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>>> On 2010-08-19, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "I don't really have an answer for you. Yes, it is a big job. It
>>>>> seems that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some
>>>>> kind of freezing problems. My version of Debian and PCLOS still
>>>>> uses 2.6.31 kernel."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> #870 at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=87
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>>>>
>>>>     In general, changing things willy-nilly is a bad idea. This is
>>>>     something that is really only commonplace due to tendency of
>>>>     Microsoft products to need constant updates for both revenue
>>>>     generation and to address their many dire security faults.
>>>>
>>>>     OTOH, my 10.04 boxes are quite happy running a "newer" kernel.
>>>
>>> There can be problems when updates to userland apps require a kernel
>>> that is newer than your current one.
>>
>>     Got an example?
>>
>
> LVM and the X suite.. xorg-server and its "drivers".
>

    LVM and X are not exactly userland. Both deal with low level
hardware management and manipulation. There isn't even any sort 
of pretense that they are normal apps.

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can be and alienate potential fans.

On 2010-08-22, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> On 2010-08-22, Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2010-08-20, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>> On 2010-08-20, Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2010-08-19, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>>>> On 2010-08-19, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I don't really have an answer for you. Yes, it is a big job. It
>>>>>> seems that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some
>>>>>> kind of freezing problems. My version of Debian and PCLOS still
>>>>>> uses 2.6.31 kernel."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #870 at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=87
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>>>>>
>>>>>     In general, changing things willy-nilly is a bad idea. This is
>>>>>     something that is really only commonplace due to tendency of
>>>>>     Microsoft products to need constant updates for both revenue
>>>>>     generation and to address their many dire security faults.
>>>>>
>>>>>     OTOH, my 10.04 boxes are quite happy running a "newer" kernel.
>>>>
>>>> There can be problems when updates to userland apps require a kernel
>>>> that is newer than your current one.
>>>
>>>     Got an example?
>>>
>>
>> LVM and the X suite.. xorg-server and its "drivers".
>>
>
>     LVM and X are not exactly userland. Both deal with low level
> hardware management and manipulation. There isn't even any sort 
> of pretense that they are normal apps.

They are by definition userland apps. If LVM were in the kernel then I
wouldn't need an initramfs to kick off a static lvm binary so that my
root partition becomes visible to the kernel. The fact that these apps
deal with low level hardware management and manipulation is the reason
why there are restrictions with regards to kernel versions.

I don't see this as a serious problem. If the app is essential for your
operation you'll upgrade to a newer kernel. Problem solved.

BTW, what is a "normal" app? LVM and X are just like other apps. Your
argument appears to be that applications which interact with low level
hardware aren't "normal" apps and that applications which don't, *are*
"normal" apps.

<The sound of my mind boggling>

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Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> writes:

> On 2010-08-22, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>> On 2010-08-22, Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2010-08-20, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>>> On 2010-08-20, Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2010-08-19, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2010-08-19, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I don't really have an answer for you. Yes, it is a big job. It
>>>>>>> seems that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some
>>>>>>> kind of freezing problems. My version of Debian and PCLOS still
>>>>>>> uses 2.6.31 kernel."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> #870 at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=87
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now this is an easy fix: just don't change the kernel version...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     In general, changing things willy-nilly is a bad idea. This is
>>>>>>     something that is really only commonplace due to tendency of
>>>>>>     Microsoft products to need constant updates for both revenue
>>>>>>     generation and to address their many dire security faults.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     OTOH, my 10.04 boxes are quite happy running a "newer" kernel.
>>>>>
>>>>> There can be problems when updates to userland apps require a kernel
>>>>> that is newer than your current one.
>>>>
>>>>     Got an example?
>>>>
>>>
>>> LVM and the X suite.. xorg-server and its "drivers".
>>>
>>
>>     LVM and X are not exactly userland. Both deal with low level
>> hardware management and manipulation. There isn't even any sort 
>> of pretense that they are normal apps.
>
> They are by definition userland apps. If LVM were in the kernel then I
> wouldn't need an initramfs to kick off a static lvm binary so that my

Not being in the kernel does NOT make an app "userland".

> root partition becomes visible to the kernel. The fact that these apps
> deal with low level hardware management and manipulation is the reason
> why there are restrictions with regards to kernel versions.
>
> I don't see this as a serious problem. If the app is essential for your
> operation you'll upgrade to a newer kernel. Problem solved.
>
> BTW, what is a "normal" app? LVM and X are just like other apps. Your
> argument appears to be that applications which interact with low level
> hardware aren't "normal" apps and that applications which don't, *are*
> "normal" apps.
>
> <The sound of my mind boggling>

The sound of silence no doubt. Its quite obvious what "user land" means
in the context and lvm and X are NOT "user land".

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:47:58 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:

> On 2010-08-19, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It seems that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some 
>> kind of freezing problems. 


Doofus is just a troll, and always had zero credibility.


[tp@TP-5120 ~]$ uname -a
Linux TP-5120 2.6.33.6-147.2.4.fc13.i686 #1 SMP Fri Jul 23 17:27:40 UTC 
2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

[tp@TP-5120 ~]$ uptime
 00:37:31 up 3 days,  9:47,  7 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.09, 0.02

[tp@TP-5120 ~]$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       2047992    1814880     233112          0     205120    1196960
-/+ buffers/cache:     412800    1635192
Swap:            0          0          0


Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
[root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
/dev/sda3:
 Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec





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On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:42:22 -0500, Terry Porter
<linux-2@netspace.net.au> wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:47:58 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
>> On 2010-08-19, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some 
>>> kind of freezing problems. 
>
>
>Doofus is just a troll, and always had zero credibility.

Says Terry "Telnet" Porter who rarely seems to ever get anything
correct.
-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Linux...Disappointing users for 19 years.
Linux::It's free when your time has no value.
See Liarmutt in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazBzvQ0ZAM

On 8/24/2010 10:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:47:58 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
>> On 2010-08-19, DFS<nospam@dfs_.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some
>>> kind of freezing problems.
>
>
> Doofus is just a troll, and always had zero credibility.


Telnet, I notice you removed the quote marks in an effort to make it 
look like I - and not a Linux victim - made that claim.

"It seems that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some 
kind of freezing problems."
#870 at
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=87



You would never LIE for LIEnux, would you Telnet?  You would never break 
into someone's computer unbeknownst to them, would you Telnet?

Of course you wouldn't.










> [tp@TP-5120 ~]$ uname -a
> Linux TP-5120 2.6.33.6-147.2.4.fc13.i686 #1 SMP Fri Jul 23 17:27:40 UTC
> 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>
> [tp@TP-5120 ~]$ uptime
>   00:37:31 up 3 days,  9:47,  7 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.09, 0.02
>
> [tp@TP-5120 ~]$ free
>               total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> Mem:       2047992    1814880     233112          0     205120    1196960
> -/+ buffers/cache:     412800    1635192
> Swap:            0          0          0
>
>
> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
> /dev/sda3:
>   Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>   Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>
>
>
>
>

Moshe Goldfarb <moshe_golfarb@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:42:22 -0500, Terry Porter
> <linux-2@netspace.net.au> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:47:58 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>
>>> On 2010-08-19, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It seems that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some 
>>>> kind of freezing problems. 
>>
>>
>>Doofus is just a troll, and always had zero credibility.
>
> Says Terry "Telnet" Porter who rarely seems to ever get anything
> correct.

LOL. When people like HPT and Liarsuck were creaming their panties upon
Telnet's "return" it was as if they really believed him to be this
mythical "Troll Hammer". The man is a complete and utter boob. I have a
theory that he might, like chrisv, be a reverse troll.

On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:18:32 +0200, Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Moshe Goldfarb <moshe_golfarb@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:42:22 -0500, Terry Porter
>> <linux-2@netspace.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:47:58 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2010-08-19, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems that if a distro uses any kernel past 2.6.31 it'll have some 
>>>>> kind of freezing problems. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Doofus is just a troll, and always had zero credibility.
>>
>> Says Terry "Telnet" Porter who rarely seems to ever get anything
>> correct.
>
>LOL. When people like HPT and Liarsuck were creaming their panties upon
>Telnet's "return" it was as if they really believed him to be this
>mythical "Troll Hammer". The man is a complete and utter boob. I have a
>theory that he might, like chrisv, be a reverse troll.

And since I was actually around when Telnet was making his ridiculous
claims, I knew full well the real story behind Terry Porter's idiocy.

The Linturds like HPT, Liarmutt and others tried to iconize Terry
Porter after he left the group but I was laughing the entire time
because I knew he would return some day like General Macarthur and
that it wouldn't be long before even the most staunch Linux supporter
would figure out that Terry Porter was indeed an idiot and that I was
correct all along.

Upon his triumphant return it took one day for Terry Porter to make an
ass of himself.

It's typical of the lame attempts to re-write history in COLA.
I'm not sure what drives these Linux loons to act like that.
Must be some kind of mental disease.



-- 
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Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Linux...Disappointing users for 19 years.
Linux::It's free when your time has no value.
See Liarmutt in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazBzvQ0ZAM

On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:

>
>
> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
> /dev/sda3:
>   Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>   Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>



C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
  Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
  Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec


Any other requests, Telnet Porter?

nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>
>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>> /dev/sda3:
>>   Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>   Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>
> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>
> /dev/hda:
>   Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>   Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>
> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?

Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D

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On 8/24/2010 9:48 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>>
>>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>>> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>>> /dev/sda3:
>>>    Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>
>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>
>> /dev/hda:
>>    Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>
>> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>
> Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D
>

http://hdparm-win32.dyndns.org/hdparm/

On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:48:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> wrote:

>nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>>
>>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>>> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>>> /dev/sda3:
>>>   Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>>   Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>
>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>
>> /dev/hda:
>>   Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>>   Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>
>> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>
>Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D


Interesting you ask for proof of some silly hdparm but yet 7 and Rex
Ballard can make some serious claims on a daily basis and you rarely
if ever demand the same level of proof from them.

You're a hypocrite Liarmutt.
 
-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Linux...Disappointing users for 19 years.
Linux::It's free when your time has no value.
See Liarmutt in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazBzvQ0ZAM

Moshe Goldfarb <moshe_golfarb@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:48:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
> <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> wrote:
>
>>nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>
>>> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>>>> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>>>> /dev/sda3:
>>>>   Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>>>   Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>>
>>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>>
>>> /dev/hda:
>>>   Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>>>   Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>>
>>> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>>
>>Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D
>
> Interesting you ask for proof of some silly hdparm but yet 7 and Rex
> Ballard can make some serious claims on a daily basis and you rarely
> if ever demand the same level of proof from them.
>
> You're a hypocrite Liarmutt.

He is, isn't he?

I actually cringe when I see him posting his nonsense. It's as if he has
no self respect. He just keeps wagging his tail for his Master Roy.

On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:11:11 +0200, Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Moshe Goldfarb <moshe_golfarb@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:48:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
>> <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> wrote:
>>
>>>nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>>
>>>> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>>>>> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>>>>> /dev/sda3:
>>>>>   Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>>>>   Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>>>
>>>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>>>
>>>> /dev/hda:
>>>>   Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>>>>   Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>>>
>>>> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>>>
>>>Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D
>>
>> Interesting you ask for proof of some silly hdparm but yet 7 and Rex
>> Ballard can make some serious claims on a daily basis and you rarely
>> if ever demand the same level of proof from them.
>>
>> You're a hypocrite Liarmutt.
>
>He is, isn't he?
>
>I actually cringe when I see him posting his nonsense. It's as if he has
>no self respect. He just keeps wagging his tail for his Master Roy.

That ain't his tail :)
-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Linux...Disappointing users for 19 years.
Linux::It's free when your time has no value.
See Liarmutt in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazBzvQ0ZAM

nmf wrote:

> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
> 
> 
>>
>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-) [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm
>> -tT /dev/sda3 /dev/sda3:
>>   Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>   Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>
>>
> 
> 
> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
> 
> /dev/hda:
>   Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec Timing
>   buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
> 
> 



/dev/sda5:
 Timing cached reads:   1874 MB in  2.00 seconds = 937.53 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  582 MB in  3.00 seconds = 193.74 MB/sec

On 8/24/2010 12:06 PM, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:48:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
> <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com>  wrote:
>
>> nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>
>>> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>>>> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>>>> /dev/sda3:
>>>>    Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>>
>>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>>
>>> /dev/hda:
>>>    Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>>
>>> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>>
>> Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D
>
>
> Interesting you ask for proof of some silly hdparm but yet 7 and Rex
> Ballard can make some serious claims on a daily basis and you rarely
> if ever demand the same level of proof from them.

Never.  Not one time.



> You're a hypocrite Liarmutt.

He also tells various "advocates" they don't owe me proof of anything.

He's one sad weenie sometimes.

On 8/24/2010 12:15 PM, nmf wrote:
> nmf wrote:
>
>> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-) [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm
>>> -tT /dev/sda3 /dev/sda3:
>>>    Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>
>> /dev/hda:
>>    Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec Timing
>>    buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>
>>
>
>
>
> /dev/sda5:
>   Timing cached reads:   1874 MB in  2.00 seconds = 937.53 MB/sec
>   Timing buffered disk reads:  582 MB in  3.00 seconds = 193.74 MB/sec


Telnet has left the building.

On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
> On 8/24/2010 12:06 PM, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:48:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
>> <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>>
>>>> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>>>>> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>>>>> /dev/sda3:
>>>>>    Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>>>
>>>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>>>
>>>> /dev/hda:
>>>>    Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>>>
>>>> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>>>
>>> Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D
>>
>>
>> Interesting you ask for proof of some silly hdparm but yet 7 and
>> Rex Ballard can make some serious claims on a daily basis and you
>> rarely if ever demand the same level of proof from them.
>
> Never.  Not one time.
>
>> You're a hypocrite Liarmutt.
>
> He also tells various "advocates" they don't owe me proof of
> anything.
>
> He's one sad weenie sometimes.

Dudes, the man was making a joke...

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TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> writes:

> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> On 8/24/2010 12:06 PM, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:48:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
>>> <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>>>>>> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>>>>>> /dev/sda3:
>>>>>>    Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>>>>
>>>>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>>>>
>>>>> /dev/hda:
>>>>>    Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>>>>
>>>> Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting you ask for proof of some silly hdparm but yet 7 and
>>> Rex Ballard can make some serious claims on a daily basis and you
>>> rarely if ever demand the same level of proof from them.
>>
>> Never.  Not one time.
>>
>>> You're a hypocrite Liarmutt.
>>
>> He also tells various "advocates" they don't owe me proof of
>> anything.
>>
>> He's one sad weenie sometimes.
>
> Dudes, the man was making a joke...

Lets see:-

Suck up defence of known loony : check
Use of work like "Dude" : check
Totally made up defence "facts" : check
Frequent references to 1337 beard editor : check

Yup. I was right. You ARE son of Liarmutt.

On 24 Aug 2010 16:55:15 GMT, TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> wrote:


>>>>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>>>>
>>>>> /dev/hda:
>>>>>    Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>>>>
>>>> Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting you ask for proof of some silly hdparm but yet 7 and
>>> Rex Ballard can make some serious claims on a daily basis and you
>>> rarely if ever demand the same level of proof from them.
>>
>> Never.  Not one time.
>>
>>> You're a hypocrite Liarmutt.
>>
>> He also tells various "advocates" they don't owe me proof of
>> anything.
>>
>> He's one sad weenie sometimes.
>
>Dudes, the man was making a joke...

No he's not.
That's just the tactic he uses to cover his ass.

It's the same as when he half assed contradicts a Linux advocate on
rare occasions.

It's the old:

Linux is great.
I don't see where you get your 10 percent number for Linux desktop
market.
Linux is great.
Do you have some link?
Did I mention Linux is great?

Nauseating.
-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Linux...Disappointing users for 19 years.
Linux::It's free when your time has no value.
See Liarmutt in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazBzvQ0ZAM

On Aug 24, 11:48=A0am, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstr...@launchmodem.com> wrote:
> nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
> > On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:

> >> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
> >> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
> >> /dev/sda3:
> >> =A0 Timing cached reads: =A0 1442 MB in =A02.00 seconds =3D 721.55 MB/=
sec
> >> =A0 Timing buffered disk reads: =A0456 MB in =A03.01 seconds =3D 151.6=
1 MB/sec

> > C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>
> > /dev/hda:
> > =A0 Timing cached reads: =A0 448 MB in =A02.01 seconds =3D 222.62 MB/se=
c
> > =A0 Timing buffered disk reads: =A0676 MB in =A03.01 seconds =3D 224.52=
 MB/sec

> > Any other requests, Telnet Porter?

> Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor. =A0:-D

LOL

Actually, the Linux number seems a bit low.

The NTFS writes require multiple reads and writes to the physical hard
drive, while the ext3 or ext4 writes take far fewer actual disk
accesses because ext writes a cluster of up to 256 kbytes at a time,
as opposed to the NTFS cluster of 4K at a time.

When running Windows in native mode, start 8-9 applications, including
some web pages with flash graphics, then look at the disk drive - it's
almost always on.  The same number of applications on Linux - CPU
usage is down, network usage is very low, but Linux appears to be
using almost all of the available memory.  Most af the memory is being
used to cache hard drive accesses.


> There's no such thing as a free lunch.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -- Milton Friendman

My grandmother's brother was his teacher. (Lloyd Mints).

On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:10:09 +0200, Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com>
wrote:

>TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>> On 8/24/2010 12:06 PM, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:48:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
>>>> <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>>>>>>> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>>>>>>> /dev/sda3:
>>>>>>>    Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>>>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /dev/hda:
>>>>>>    Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>>>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interesting you ask for proof of some silly hdparm but yet 7 and
>>>> Rex Ballard can make some serious claims on a daily basis and you
>>>> rarely if ever demand the same level of proof from them.
>>>
>>> Never.  Not one time.
>>>
>>>> You're a hypocrite Liarmutt.
>>>
>>> He also tells various "advocates" they don't owe me proof of
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> He's one sad weenie sometimes.
>>
>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>
>Lets see:-
>
>Suck up defence of known loony : check
>Use of work like "Dude" : check
>Totally made up defence "facts" : check
>Frequent references to 1337 beard editor : check
>
>Yup. I was right. You ARE son of Liarmutt.

Yep.
This time TomB is playing word games in defense of Liarmutt.
-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Linux...Disappointing users for 19 years.
Linux::It's free when your time has no value.
See Liarmutt in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazBzvQ0ZAM

TomB wrote:

>On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> On 8/24/2010 12:06 PM, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>Dudes, the man was making a joke...

Too late.  The stupid lying hypocrites have already sprayed all over
each other.

Apparently, it's really fun to use lies to attack your betters.

-- 
"Huh? The COLA 'tards said that MS was in the wrong and were going to
be handed their arse on a plate." -  Hadron Quark, lying shamelessly
about what advocates said about the Microsoft-TomTom lawsuits

Rex Ballard <rex.ballard@gmail.com> writes:

> On Aug 24, 11:48 am, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstr...@launchmodem.com> wrote:
>> nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>> > On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>
>> >> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>> >> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>> >> /dev/sda3:
>> >>   Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>> >>   Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>
>> > C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>
>> > /dev/hda:
>> >   Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>> >   Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>
>> > Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>
>> Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D
>
> LOL
>
> Actually, the Linux number seems a bit low.
>
> The NTFS writes require multiple reads and writes to the physical hard
> drive, while the ext3 or ext4 writes take far fewer actual disk
> accesses because ext writes a cluster of up to 256 kbytes at a time,
> as opposed to the NTFS cluster of 4K at a time.

Anyone want to take a guess? It's a game. "Rexxford says". And you,
competitors, need to yell "Thats wonderful coming from you Rexx" OR "You
lying 'advocate' you".

>
> When running Windows in native mode, start 8-9 applications, including
> some web pages with flash graphics, then look at the disk drive - it's
> almost always on.  The same number of applications on Linux - CPU
> usage is down, network usage is very low, but Linux appears to be
> using almost all of the available memory.  Most af the memory is being
> used to cache hard drive accesses.
>
>> There's no such thing as a free lunch.
>>                 -- Milton Friendman
>
> My grandmother's brother was his teacher. (Lloyd Mints).

And you invented Java. We know Rexx ...

On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
> TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>> On 8/24/2010 12:06 PM, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:48:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
>>>> <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>>>>>>> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>>>>>>> /dev/sda3:
>>>>>>>    Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>>>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /dev/hda:
>>>>>>    Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>>>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.
>>>>> :-D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interesting you ask for proof of some silly hdparm but yet 7 and
>>>> Rex Ballard can make some serious claims on a daily basis and you
>>>> rarely if ever demand the same level of proof from them.
>>>
>>> Never.  Not one time.
>>>
>>>> You're a hypocrite Liarmutt.
>>>
>>> He also tells various "advocates" they don't owe me proof of
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> He's one sad weenie sometimes.
>>
>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>
> Lets see:-
>
> Suck up defence of known loony : check
> Use of work like "Dude" : check
> Totally made up defence "facts" : check
> Frequent references to 1337 beard editor : check
>
> Yup. I was right. You ARE son of Liarmutt.

And if I really were, I'd be proud of it too!

But since we're at it: where did I bring up 'made up defense facts'?
I'd be happy to see you point them out.

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On 8/24/2010 12:55 PM, TomB wrote:
> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> On 8/24/2010 12:06 PM, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:48:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
>>> <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>>>>>> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>>>>>> /dev/sda3:
>>>>>>     Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>>>>>     Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>>>>
>>>>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>>>>
>>>>> /dev/hda:
>>>>>     Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>>>>>     Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>>>>
>>>> Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting you ask for proof of some silly hdparm but yet 7 and
>>> Rex Ballard can make some serious claims on a daily basis and you
>>> rarely if ever demand the same level of proof from them.
>>
>> Never.  Not one time.
>>
>>> You're a hypocrite Liarmutt.
>>
>> He also tells various "advocates" they don't owe me proof of
>> anything.
>>
>> He's one sad weenie sometimes.
>
> Dudes, the man was making a joke...

I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or any 
"advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.

On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
> On 8/24/2010 12:55 PM, TomB wrote:
>>
>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>
> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or any 
> "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.

Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in the
recent 'uptime' discussion.

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TomB stated in post 20100824203756.671@usenet.drumscum.be on 8/24/10 11:39
AM:

> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> On 8/24/2010 12:55 PM, TomB wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>> 
>> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or any
>> "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.
> 
> Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in the
> recent 'uptime' discussion.

Prove it.  :)

-- 
"A non-powered hub that will only  support non-powered devices. IOW,
basically useless." -- Tim Adams

On 8/24/2010 2:39 PM, TomB wrote:
> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> On 8/24/2010 12:55 PM, TomB wrote:
>>>
>>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>>
>> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or any
>> "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.
>
> Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in the
> recent 'uptime' discussion.


You'll just have to ask him if he was serious or not.  Maybe he'll tell 
you the truth.

If he was serious, it's more proof he's a hypocrite - to this day he has 
never once asked any of his fellow "advocates" for proof of their 
ridiculous claims (that I've seen).

Since he has only ever asked non-"advocates" for proof, and nmf is a 
non-"advocate", how are we to know this was a joke?  The smiley face? 
Maybe, but it could be part of his submissive-husband need for 
obsequious sucking up and ingratiating behavior.

History and current evidence points to weenie-ness.

TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> writes:

> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> On 8/24/2010 12:55 PM, TomB wrote:
>>>
>>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>>
>> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or any 
>> "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.
>
> Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in the
> recent 'uptime' discussion.


It's getting embarrassing now ...

On 8/24/2010 2:55 PM, Hadron wrote:
> TomB<tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com>  writes:
>
>> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>> On 8/24/2010 12:55 PM, TomB wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>>>
>>> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or any
>>> "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.
>>
>> Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in the
>> recent 'uptime' discussion.
>
>
> It's getting embarrassing now ...

If they break out their flannel shirts and jeans and cowboy boots and 
hop on horses and head up to Brokeback Mtn, I'm gonna hurl...

DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> writes:

> On 8/24/2010 2:39 PM, TomB wrote:
>> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>> On 8/24/2010 12:55 PM, TomB wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>>>
>>> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or any
>>> "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.
>>
>> Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in the
>> recent 'uptime' discussion.
>
> You'll just have to ask him if he was serious or not.  Maybe he'll tell 
> you the truth.
>
> If he was serious, it's more proof he's a hypocrite - to this day he has 
> never once asked any of his fellow "advocates" for proof of their 
> ridiculous claims (that I've seen).
>
> Since he has only ever asked non-"advocates" for proof, and nmf is a 
> non-"advocate", how are we to know this was a joke?  The smiley face? 
> Maybe, but it could be part of his submissive-husband need for 
> obsequious sucking up and ingratiating behavior.
>
> History and current evidence points to weenie-ness.

Beautifully put.

nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> On 8/24/2010 9:48 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>
>>> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>>>> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>>>> /dev/sda3:
>>>>    Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>>
>>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>>
>>> /dev/hda:
>>>    Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>>
>>> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>>
>> Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D
>
> http://hdparm-win32.dyndns.org/hdparm/

That's no proof that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.

(And, yes, I *am* being an asshole :-)

-- 
A long memory is the most subversive idea in America.

TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> On 8/24/2010 12:06 PM, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:48:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
>>> <ahlstromc@launchmodem.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> nmf posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/24/2010 8:42 AM, Terry Porter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally, try this on any vista7 netbook ;-)
>>>>>> [root@TP-5120 tp]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda3
>>>>>> /dev/sda3:
>>>>>>    Timing cached reads:   1442 MB in  2.00 seconds = 721.55 MB/sec
>>>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  456 MB in  3.01 seconds = 151.61 MB/sec
>>>>>
>>>>> C:\Program Files\hdparm\bin>hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>>>>>
>>>>> /dev/hda:
>>>>>    Timing cached reads:   448 MB in  2.01 seconds = 222.62 MB/sec
>>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:  676 MB in  3.01 seconds = 224.52 MB/sec
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other requests, Telnet Porter?
>>>>
>>>> Prove that you didn't just djinn up that with a text editor.  :-D
>>>
>>> Interesting you ask for proof of some silly hdparm but yet 7 and
>>> Rex Ballard can make some serious claims on a daily basis and you
>>> rarely if ever demand the same level of proof from them.
>>
>> Never.  Not one time.
>>
>>> You're a hypocrite Liarmutt.
>>
>> He also tells various "advocates" they don't owe me proof of
>> anything.
>>
>> He's one sad weenie sometimes.
>
> Dudes, the man was making a joke...

"Moshe" just wanted an excuse to post another "Liarmutt".  And of course DFS
(the second of the Three Stooges) just *had* to come along and put in his
two millicents.

-- 
Small things make base men proud.
		-- William Shakespeare, "Henry VI"

TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>
>> Suck up defence of known loony : check

Is "Hadron" really trying to say I'm a known loonie?  Bizarro World redux.

> And if I really were, I'd be proud of it too!
>
> But since we're at it: where did I bring up 'made up defense facts'?
> I'd be happy to see you point them out.

It didn't take all three of the Three Stooges to pile onto this thread,
did it?  Extremely creepy.  Do they all room together?

-- 
There's so much to say but your eyes keep interrupting me.

On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:32:47 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> wrote:


>(And, yes, I *am* being an asshole :-)

Tell us something we don't know already, Liarmutt.
-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Linux...Disappointing users for 19 years.
Linux::It's free when your time has no value.
See Liarmutt in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazBzvQ0ZAM

On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
> On 8/24/2010 2:55 PM, Hadron wrote:
>> TomB<tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com>  writes:
>>
>>>>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or
>>>> any "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.
>>>
>>> Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in
>>> the recent 'uptime' discussion.
>>
>>
>> It's getting embarrassing now ...
>
> If they break out their flannel shirts and jeans and cowboy boots
> and hop on horses and head up to Brokeback Mtn, I'm gonna hurl...

Seems like Hadron and you are regulars there too.

Yihaaah. I think 'Liarmutt' is a great name for a cowboy. TomB less
so. Can you guys please come up with a nickname for me too?

Doofus and Hadrongo are great cowboy names too!

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On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
> TomB stated in post 20100824203756.671@usenet.drumscum.be on 8/24/10 11:39
> AM:
>
>>>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>>> 
>>> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or any
>>> "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.
>> 
>> Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in
>> the recent 'uptime' discussion.
>
> Prove it.  :)

Sorry, there's only circumstantial evidence. Won't hold up in court
very well.

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On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
> TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>>> Suck up defence of known loony : check
>
> Is "Hadron" really trying to say I'm a known loonie?  Bizarro World
> redux.
>
>> And if I really were, I'd be proud of it too!
>>
>> But since we're at it: where did I bring up 'made up defense
>> facts'?  I'd be happy to see you point them out.
>
> It didn't take all three of the Three Stooges to pile onto this
> thread, did it?  Extremely creepy.  Do they all room together?

Yup, you've got them dancing really well, partner. I reckon you own
their sorry arses.

Yihaaah. Dance, Stooges, dance!

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TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> On 8/24/2010 12:55 PM, TomB wrote:
>>>
>>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>>
>> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or any 
>> "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.

Oooh, Kindergarten boy called me "Linosuck".

> Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in the
> recent 'uptime' discussion.

Who cares?  If I challenged every faulty post in COLA I'd nearly double
the traffic here.

Both sides say a certain amount of junk that is just not interesting enough
to rebut.

-- 
"'Tis true, 'tis pity, and pity 'tis 'tis true."
-- Poloniouius, in Willie the Shake's _Hamlet, Prince of Darkness_

TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
>> TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>
>>>> Suck up defence of known loony : check
>>
>> Is "Hadron" really trying to say I'm a known loonie?  Bizarro World
>> redux.
>>
>>> And if I really were, I'd be proud of it too!
>>>
>>> But since we're at it: where did I bring up 'made up defense
>>> facts'?  I'd be happy to see you point them out.
>>
>> It didn't take all three of the Three Stooges to pile onto this
>> thread, did it?  Extremely creepy.  Do they all room together?
>
> Yup, you've got them dancing really well, partner. I reckon you own
> their sorry arses.
>
> Yihaaah. Dance, Stooges, dance!

Nah, I don't believe in "ownage".  Except in the sense
that these Three Stooges are so caught up in their noisome
little game that they can't escape from their own impulses.

> I am son of Liarmutt.

I am Truthdog.

-- 
In defeat, unbeatable; in victory, unbearable.
		-- W. Churchill, on General Montgomery

On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:53:37 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<ahlstromc@launchmodem.com> wrote:

>TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>> On 8/24/2010 12:55 PM, TomB wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>>>
>>> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or any 
>>> "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.
>
>Oooh, Kindergarten boy called me "Linosuck".

If the name fits.......

The kid they called tubby in kindergarten was, well, he was fat.

>> Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in the
>> recent 'uptime' discussion.
>
>Who cares?  If I challenged every faulty post in COLA I'd nearly double
>the traffic here.

Yet you seem to have enough time to challenge the posts made by the
opposing side.

You're a hypocrite.


>Both sides say a certain amount of junk that is just not interesting enough
>to rebut.

True, but your side has us beat by a country mile.

Just Rex and 7 alone have told so many lies it would takes volumes of
space just to categorize them all.

FWIW it only takes one serious post asking for proof from 7 for his
fraudulent claims from you to redeem yourself.

For Rex, you are going to be busy.

-- 
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Linux...Disappointing users for 19 years.
Linux::It's free when your time has no value.
See Liarmutt in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazBzvQ0ZAM

TomB wrote:

> Seems like Hadron and you are regulars there too.

Why reward this shit with responses, TomB?

TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> writes:

> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
>> TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>
>>>> Suck up defence of known loony : check
>>
>> Is "Hadron" really trying to say I'm a known loonie?  Bizarro World
>> redux.
>>
>>> And if I really were, I'd be proud of it too!
>>>
>>> But since we're at it: where did I bring up 'made up defense
>>> facts'?  I'd be happy to see you point them out.
>>
>> It didn't take all three of the Three Stooges to pile onto this
>> thread, did it?  Extremely creepy.  Do they all room together?
>
> Yup, you've got them dancing really well, partner. I reckon you own
> their sorry arses.
>
> Yihaaah. Dance, Stooges, dance!


Yeah. Thats how it is.

Liarmutt is caught out being a sycophantic, obsequious lackey again and
its all a subtle ploy to make us laugh at him.

Take a step back. Take a look at yourself.

On 8/24/2010 3:47 PM, TomB wrote:
> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> On 8/24/2010 2:55 PM, Hadron wrote:
>>> TomB<tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com>   writes:
>>>
>>>>>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or
>>>>> any "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.
>>>>
>>>> Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in
>>>> the recent 'uptime' discussion.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's getting embarrassing now ...
>>
>> If they break out their flannel shirts and jeans and cowboy boots
>> and hop on horses and head up to Brokeback Mtn, I'm gonna hurl...
>
> Seems like Hadron and you are regulars there too.

You gotta get your own homo analogies, pal.

And there's no comparison between us and the amount of sucking up and 
defending Linosuck that's going on in this thread.



> Yihaaah. I think 'Liarmutt' is a great name for a cowboy. TomB less
> so. Can you guys please come up with a nickname for me too?

TomBareback



> Doofus and Hadrongo are great cowboy names too!

I don't like Doofus as a cowboy name, but Hadrongo has a good ring.

Call me DoubleDoof.

DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> writes:

> On 8/24/2010 3:47 PM, TomB wrote:
>> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>> On 8/24/2010 2:55 PM, Hadron wrote:
>>>> TomB<tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com>   writes:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or
>>>>>> any "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in
>>>>> the recent 'uptime' discussion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's getting embarrassing now ...
>>>
>>> If they break out their flannel shirts and jeans and cowboy boots
>>> and hop on horses and head up to Brokeback Mtn, I'm gonna hurl...
>>
>> Seems like Hadron and you are regulars there too.
>
> You gotta get your own homo analogies, pal.
>
> And there's no comparison between us and the amount of sucking up and 
> defending Linosuck that's going on in this thread.
>
>> Yihaaah. I think 'Liarmutt' is a great name for a cowboy. TomB less
>> so. Can you guys please come up with a nickname for me too?
>
> TomBareback
>
>> Doofus and Hadrongo are great cowboy names too!
>
> I don't like Doofus as a cowboy name, but Hadrongo has a good ring.
>
> Call me DoubleDoof.

A good "ring"? Steady on there Cowboy ....

On 8/24/2010 4:07 PM, chrisv wrote:
> TomB wrote:
>
>> Seems like Hadron and you are regulars there too.
>
> Why reward this shit with responses, TomB?

'Cause you're a boring, vicious, potty-mouthed lamebrain?

On 8/24/2010 4:15 PM, Hadron wrote:
> DFS<nospam@dfs_.com>  writes:

>> I don't like Doofus as a cowboy name, but Hadrongo has a good ring.
>>
>> Call me DoubleDoof.
>
> A good "ring"? Steady on there Cowboy ....


It's just a goof, podnuh.

On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
> On 8/24/2010 3:47 PM, TomB wrote:
>> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>> On 8/24/2010 2:55 PM, Hadron wrote:
>>>> TomB<tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com>   writes:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or
>>>>>> any "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in
>>>>> the recent 'uptime' discussion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's getting embarrassing now ...
>>>
>>> If they break out their flannel shirts and jeans and cowboy boots
>>> and hop on horses and head up to Brokeback Mtn, I'm gonna hurl...
>>
>> Seems like Hadron and you are regulars there too.
>
> You gotta get your own homo analogies, pal.

Yours will do just fine, thanks.

Something could be said for 'Quark as Folk' though...

> And there's no comparison between us and the amount of sucking up
> and defending Linosuck that's going on in this thread.

No, indeed. You guys hump each other coninuously. I only hump Chris
occasionally.

>> Yihaaah. I think 'Liarmutt' is a great name for a cowboy. TomB less
>> so. Can you guys please come up with a nickname for me too?
>
> TomBareback

Nah, not very cowboyish.

>> Doofus and Hadrongo are great cowboy names too!
>
> I don't like Doofus as a cowboy name, but Hadrongo has a good ring.
>
> Call me DoubleDoof.

You got it!

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On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
> DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> writes:
>
>>> Doofus and Hadrongo are great cowboy names too!
>>
>> I don't like Doofus as a cowboy name, but Hadrongo has a good ring.
>>
>> Call me DoubleDoof.
>
> A good "ring"? Steady on there Cowboy ....

Rofl, it appears your 'ring' has been giving him /great/ pleasure :-D

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On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
> TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Yup, you've got them dancing really well, partner. I reckon you own
>> their sorry arses.
>>
>> Yihaaah. Dance, Stooges, dance!
>
> Yeah. Thats how it is.
>
> Liarmutt is caught out being a sycophantic, obsequious lackey again and
> its all a subtle ploy to make us laugh at him.
>
> Take a step back. Take a look at yourself.

I reckon I'd see one damn hot cowboy!

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TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> writes:

> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> On 8/24/2010 3:47 PM, TomB wrote:
>>> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>>> On 8/24/2010 2:55 PM, Hadron wrote:
>>>>> TomB<tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com>   writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dudes, the man was making a joke...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think so; Linosuck has NEVER asked 7 or Rex Ballard or
>>>>>>> any "advocate" for proof in a serious or a joking manner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Come on, it was clearly a reference to your request for proof in
>>>>>> the recent 'uptime' discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's getting embarrassing now ...
>>>>
>>>> If they break out their flannel shirts and jeans and cowboy boots
>>>> and hop on horses and head up to Brokeback Mtn, I'm gonna hurl...
>>>
>>> Seems like Hadron and you are regulars there too.
>>
>> You gotta get your own homo analogies, pal.
>
> Yours will do just fine, thanks.
>
> Something could be said for 'Quark as Folk' though...
>
>> And there's no comparison between us and the amount of sucking up
>> and defending Linosuck that's going on in this thread.
>
> No, indeed. You guys hump each other coninuously. I only hump Chris
> occasionally.

And you will post proof to that? No. The only thing you will find in
common is laughing at you sucking and him sucking up. Not trying to
rewrite history. Face it, Papa was caught being a hypocritical fool
again.

>
>>> Yihaaah. I think 'Liarmutt' is a great name for a cowboy. TomB less
>>> so. Can you guys please come up with a nickname for me too?
>>
>> TomBareback
>
> Nah, not very cowboyish.
>
>>> Doofus and Hadrongo are great cowboy names too!
>>
>> I don't like Doofus as a cowboy name, but Hadrongo has a good ring.
>>
>> Call me DoubleDoof.
>
> You got it!

TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> On 2010-08-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>> TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Yup, you've got them dancing really well, partner. I reckon you own
>>> their sorry arses.
>>>
>>> Yihaaah. Dance, Stooges, dance!
>>
>> Yeah. Thats how it is.
>>
>> Liarmutt is caught out being a sycophantic, obsequious lackey again and
>> its all a subtle ploy to make us laugh at him.

Silly talk.  Crazy talk, indeed, if "Hadron" really believes it.

>> Take a step back. Take a look at yourself.
>
> I reckon I'd see one damn hot cowboy!

I'll bet "Hadron" has no mirrors in his home.

-- 
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"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
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chrisv is a liar. chrisv is a stupid piece of shit.