<http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100510#news>

"Let's start this week's news section with some bad news: it  appears that 
Mandriva S.A., a Paris-based company that has been developing the popular 
Mandriva Linux distribution for over a decade, is for sale. That's according 
to this post at Mandriva Linux Online (in French). The article claims that 
the company's financial situation has deteriorated dramatically this year 
and selling the enterprise is the only alternative to closing it down 
completely. It mentions two potential buyers - a London-based lightapp Ltd 
and Linagora from France, both of whom have apparently entered into 
negotiations with Mandriva."

-- 
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and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things,
that takes religion. "
-- Steven Weinberg

Hardon stated in post VaWFn.5020$h57.4892@newsfe22.iad on 5/10/10 9:07 AM:

> <http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100510#news>
> 
> "Let's start this week's news section with some bad news: it  appears that
> Mandriva S.A., a Paris-based company that has been developing the popular
> Mandriva Linux distribution for over a decade, is for sale. That's according
> to this post at Mandriva Linux Online (in French). The article claims that
> the company's financial situation has deteriorated dramatically this year
> and selling the enterprise is the only alternative to closing it down
> completely. It mentions two potential buyers - a London-based lightapp Ltd
> and Linagora from France, both of whom have apparently entered into
> negotiations with Mandriva."

As desktop Linux matures, you will likely see fewer mainstream distros
(which is not to say there will not be more specialized distros).  This is
true in most maturing markets - at first there are a lot of options and
different groups trying to all get customer attention and then, as some
"bubble" to the top, others fade away.  Ubuntu, at least for now, has
clearly bubbled to the top.  Other options will go away (or, at least,
become fringe... few people using them, even for desktop Linux standards).


-- 
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On 5/10/2010 12:07 PM, Hardon wrote:
> <http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100510#news>
>
> "Let's start this week's news section with some bad news: it  appears that
> Mandriva S.A., a Paris-based company that has been developing the popular
> Mandriva Linux distribution for over a decade, is for sale. That's according
> to this post at Mandriva Linux Online (in French). The article claims that
> the company's financial situation has deteriorated dramatically this year
> and selling the enterprise is the only alternative to closing it down
> completely. It mentions two potential buyers - a London-based lightapp Ltd
> and Linagora from France, both of whom have apparently entered into
> negotiations with Mandriva."

I bid $3.00

Hardon <hardon.quark@gmail.com> writes:

> <http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100510#news>
>
> "Let's start this week's news section with some bad news: it  appears that 
> Mandriva S.A., a Paris-based company that has been developing the popular 
> Mandriva Linux distribution for over a decade, is for sale. That's according 
> to this post at Mandriva Linux Online (in French). The article claims that 
> the company's financial situation has deteriorated dramatically this year 
> and selling the enterprise is the only alternative to closing it down 
> completely. It mentions two potential buyers - a London-based lightapp Ltd 
> and Linagora from France, both of whom have apparently entered into 
> negotiations with Mandriva."

Why would anyone post this from "Hardon"?

Raytard? Is that you being retarded again?

On 05/10/2010 06:59 PM, Hadron wrote:
> Why would anyone post this from "Hardon"?
> 
> Raytard? Is that you being retarded again?
Trolls trolling trolls?

On 2010-05-10, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
> Hardon stated in post VaWFn.5020$h57.4892@newsfe22.iad on 5/10/10 9:07 AM:
>
>> <http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100510#news>
>> 
>> "Let's start this week's news section with some bad news: it  appears that
>> Mandriva S.A., a Paris-based company that has been developing the popular
>> Mandriva Linux distribution for over a decade, is for sale. That's according
>> to this post at Mandriva Linux Online (in French). The article claims that
>> the company's financial situation has deteriorated dramatically this year
>> and selling the enterprise is the only alternative to closing it down
>> completely. It mentions two potential buyers - a London-based lightapp Ltd
>> and Linagora from France, both of whom have apparently entered into
>> negotiations with Mandriva."
>
> As desktop Linux matures, you will likely see fewer mainstream distros
> (which is not to say there will not be more specialized distros).  This is
> true in most maturing markets - at first there are a lot of options and
> different groups trying to all get customer attention and then, as some
> "bubble" to the top, others fade away.  Ubuntu, at least for now, has
> clearly bubbled to the top.  Other options will go away (or, at least,
> become fringe... few people using them, even for desktop Linux standards).

Ubuntu is nowhere near the top. It's increasingly
popular, buy still a small fry compared to Red Hat en SuSE.

Mandriva has a history of doing bad business. They faced financial
problems before. Unfortunately they never got where Red Hat and SuSE
got.

And that's about it for commercially mainted distros. Community
maintained distros such as Debian will never be affected by stuff like
this. They don't have to sell. They just have to be good.



-- 
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bit bucket overflow

TomB stated in post 20100510193256.805@usenet.drumscum.be on 5/10/10 10:43
AM:

> On 2010-05-10, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>> Hardon stated in post VaWFn.5020$h57.4892@newsfe22.iad on 5/10/10 9:07 AM:
>> 
>>> <http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100510#news>
>>> 
>>> "Let's start this week's news section with some bad news: it  appears that
>>> Mandriva S.A., a Paris-based company that has been developing the popular
>>> Mandriva Linux distribution for over a decade, is for sale. That's according
>>> to this post at Mandriva Linux Online (in French). The article claims that
>>> the company's financial situation has deteriorated dramatically this year
>>> and selling the enterprise is the only alternative to closing it down
>>> completely. It mentions two potential buyers - a London-based lightapp Ltd
>>> and Linagora from France, both of whom have apparently entered into
>>> negotiations with Mandriva."
>> 
>> As desktop Linux matures, you will likely see fewer mainstream distros
>> (which is not to say there will not be more specialized distros).  This is
>> true in most maturing markets - at first there are a lot of options and
>> different groups trying to all get customer attention and then, as some
>> "bubble" to the top, others fade away.  Ubuntu, at least for now, has
>> clearly bubbled to the top.  Other options will go away (or, at least,
>> become fringe... few people using them, even for desktop Linux standards).
> 
> Ubuntu is nowhere near the top. It's increasingly
> popular, buy still a small fry compared to Red Hat en SuSE.

OK.

> Mandriva has a history of doing bad business. They faced financial
> problems before. Unfortunately they never got where Red Hat and SuSE
> got.
> 
> And that's about it for commercially mainted distros. Community
> maintained distros such as Debian will never be affected by stuff like
> this. They don't have to sell. They just have to be good.

Good as measured in what way?


-- 
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"DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> schreef in bericht 
news:hs9boo$s1b$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 5/10/2010 12:07 PM, Hardon wrote:
>> <http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100510#news>
>>
>> "Let's start this week's news section with some bad news: it  appears 
>> that
>> Mandriva S.A., a Paris-based company that has been developing the popular
>> Mandriva Linux distribution for over a decade, is for sale. That's 
>> according
>> to this post at Mandriva Linux Online (in French). The article claims 
>> that
>> the company's financial situation has deteriorated dramatically this year
>> and selling the enterprise is the only alternative to closing it down
>> completely. It mentions two potential buyers - a London-based lightapp 
>> Ltd
>> and Linagora from France, both of whom have apparently entered into
>> negotiations with Mandriva."
>
> I bid $3.00
>
You must be a munificent person! 

On 5/10/2010 3:20 PM, Clogwog wrote:
> "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> schreef in bericht
> news:hs9boo$s1b$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 5/10/2010 12:07 PM, Hardon wrote:
>>> <http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100510#news>
>>>
>>> "Let's start this week's news section with some bad news: it appears
>>> that
>>> Mandriva S.A., a Paris-based company that has been developing the
>>> popular
>>> Mandriva Linux distribution for over a decade, is for sale. That's
>>> according
>>> to this post at Mandriva Linux Online (in French). The article claims
>>> that
>>> the company's financial situation has deteriorated dramatically this
>>> year
>>> and selling the enterprise is the only alternative to closing it down
>>> completely. It mentions two potential buyers - a London-based
>>> lightapp Ltd
>>> and Linagora from France, both of whom have apparently entered into
>>> negotiations with Mandriva."
>>
>> I bid $3.00
>>
> You must be a munificent person!


Do I hear $3.25?

"DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> schreef in bericht 
news:hs9neg$v8p$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 5/10/2010 3:20 PM, Clogwog wrote:
>> "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:hs9boo$s1b$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On 5/10/2010 12:07 PM, Hardon wrote:
>>>> <http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100510#news>
>>>>
>>>> "Let's start this week's news section with some bad news: it appears
>>>> that
>>>> Mandriva S.A., a Paris-based company that has been developing the
>>>> popular
>>>> Mandriva Linux distribution for over a decade, is for sale. That's
>>>> according
>>>> to this post at Mandriva Linux Online (in French). The article claims
>>>> that
>>>> the company's financial situation has deteriorated dramatically this
>>>> year
>>>> and selling the enterprise is the only alternative to closing it down
>>>> completely. It mentions two potential buyers - a London-based
>>>> lightapp Ltd
>>>> and Linagora from France, both of whom have apparently entered into
>>>> negotiations with Mandriva."
>>>
>>> I bid $3.00
>>>
>> You must be a munificent person!
>
>
> Do I hear $3.25?
>

lol !, €  3.00
< *only* if the Greece Euro Devaluation persists> 

On Mon, 10 May 2010 17:43:58 +0000, TomB wrote:

> On 2010-05-10, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>> Hardon stated in post VaWFn.5020$h57.4892@newsfe22.iad on 5/10/10 9:07
>> AM:
>>
>>> <http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100510#news>
>>> 
>>> "Let's start this week's news section with some bad news: it  appears
>>> that Mandriva S.A., a Paris-based company that has been developing the
>>> popular Mandriva Linux distribution for over a decade, is for sale.
>>> That's according to this post at Mandriva Linux Online (in French).
>>> The article claims that the company's financial situation has
>>> deteriorated dramatically this year and selling the enterprise is the
>>> only alternative to closing it down completely. It mentions two
>>> potential buyers - a London-based lightapp Ltd and Linagora from
>>> France, both of whom have apparently entered into negotiations with
>>> Mandriva."
>>
>> As desktop Linux matures, you will likely see fewer mainstream distros
>> (which is not to say there will not be more specialized distros).  This
>> is true in most maturing markets - at first there are a lot of options
>> and different groups trying to all get customer attention and then, as
>> some "bubble" to the top, others fade away.  Ubuntu, at least for now,
>> has clearly bubbled to the top.  Other options will go away (or, at
>> least, become fringe... few people using them, even for desktop Linux
>> standards).
> 
> Ubuntu is nowhere near the top. It's increasingly popular, buy still a
> small fry compared to Red Hat en SuSE.

What do you mean by "at the top"?
(snip)


-- 
Rick

Hardon wrote:

> "Let's start this week's news section with some bad news: it  appears that 
> Mandriva S.A., a Paris-based company that has been developing the popular 
> Mandriva Linux distribution for over a decade, is for sale. That's according 
> to this post at Mandriva Linux Online (in French). The article claims that 
> the company's financial situation has deteriorated dramatically this year 
> and selling the enterprise is the only alternative to closing it down 
> completely. It mentions two potential buyers - a London-based lightapp Ltd 
> and Linagora from France, both of whom have apparently entered into 
> negotiations with Mandriva."

Too bad. But not really a big surprise.

Maybe they can move stateside and get a bailout from the Obama administration.
:-)

-- 
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Best regards,
Tattoo Vampire
Owner and CEO, Trollus Amongus, LLC

Hardon wrote:
> <http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100510#news>
> 
> "Let's start this week's news section with some bad news: it  appears that
> Mandriva S.A., a Paris-based company that has been developing the popular
> Mandriva Linux distribution for over a decade, is for sale. That's
> according to this post at Mandriva Linux Online (in French). The article
> claims that the company's financial situation has deteriorated
> dramatically this year and selling the enterprise is the only alternative
> to closing it down completely. It mentions two potential buyers - a
> London-based lightapp Ltd and Linagora from France, both of whom have
> apparently entered into negotiations with Mandriva."

Sad news! Mandriva has surpassed other financial difficulties in the past. 
Hopefully they will surpass this one also. As a long time user and supporter 
of Mandriva I wish them the best.

Regards.

On 2010-05-10, the following emerged from the brain of Rick:
> On Mon, 10 May 2010 17:43:58 +0000, TomB wrote:
>
>> On 2010-05-10, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>>> Hardon stated in post VaWFn.5020$h57.4892@newsfe22.iad on 5/10/10
>>> 9:07 AM:
>>>
>>>> <http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100510#news>
>>>> 
>>>> "Let's start this week's news section with some bad news: it
>>>> appears that Mandriva S.A., a Paris-based company that has been
>>>> developing the popular Mandriva Linux distribution for over a
>>>> decade, is for sale.  That's according to this post at Mandriva
>>>> Linux Online (in French).  The article claims that the company's
>>>> financial situation has deteriorated dramatically this year and
>>>> selling the enterprise is the only alternative to closing it down
>>>> completely. It mentions two potential buyers - a London-based
>>>> lightapp Ltd and Linagora from France, both of whom have
>>>> apparently entered into negotiations with Mandriva."
>>>
>>> As desktop Linux matures, you will likely see fewer mainstream
>>> distros (which is not to say there will not be more specialized
>>> distros).  This is true in most maturing markets - at first there
>>> are a lot of options and different groups trying to all get
>>> customer attention and then, as some "bubble" to the top, others
>>> fade away.  Ubuntu, at least for now, has clearly bubbled to the
>>> top.  Other options will go away (or, at least, become fringe...
>>> few people using them, even for desktop Linux standards).
>> 
>> Ubuntu is nowhere near the top. It's increasingly popular, buy
>> still a small fry compared to Red Hat en SuSE.
>
> What do you mean by "at the top"?  (snip)

Deployment numbers. Mainly corporate setting, ie. those likely to pay
for updates/support.

With the current economic situation Ubuntu has the advantage of having
free updates, unlike eg. Red Hat and SuSE. If you need/want support,
you can buy it directly from Canonical, but if not there's zero cost.
This is one of the main reasons why Ubuntu is increasingly popular in
corporate settings.

-- 
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Dew on the telephone lines.

TomB wrote:

>With the current economic situation Ubuntu has the advantage of having
>free updates, unlike eg. Red Hat and SuSE. If you need/want support,
>you can buy it directly from Canonical, but if not there's zero cost.
>This is one of the main reasons why Ubuntu is increasingly popular in
>corporate settings.

Ubuntu is what we use around here.  Not for the "big iron" (which are
Sun), but for lighter-weight situations.  It's just a good,
easy-to-use, Debian-based (which we prefer) distro.

-- 
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<insert hundreds of companies who make money from others peoples
work>"  -  "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark, implying that it's
immoral for a company to use FOSS in its products

On 5/11/2010 11:07 AM, chrisv wrote:
> TomB wrote:
>
>> With the current economic situation Ubuntu has the advantage of having
>> free updates, unlike eg. Red Hat and SuSE. If you need/want support,
>> you can buy it directly from Canonical, but if not there's zero cost.
>> This is one of the main reasons why Ubuntu is increasingly popular in
>> corporate settings.
>
> Ubuntu is what we use around here.


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What do you mean "we", shithead liar hypocrite?

"DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> schreef in bericht 
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> On 5/11/2010 11:07 AM, chrisv wrote:
>> TomB wrote:
>>
>>> With the current economic situation Ubuntu has the advantage of having
>>> free updates, unlike eg. Red Hat and SuSE. If you need/want support,
>>> you can buy it directly from Canonical, but if not there's zero cost.
>>> This is one of the main reasons why Ubuntu is increasingly popular in
>>> corporate settings.
>>
>> Ubuntu is what we use around here.
>
>
> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572
>
> What do you mean "we", shithead liar hypocrite?
>
>

Yep!, he posted using OE & Windows mail quite often!
I bet he never uses Linux!
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Clogwog <clogwog@anon.eu> wrote:
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Nice catch, Clogwog!  You're a genius!

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> Clogwog <clogwog@anon.eu> wrote:
>>
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Nice catch, Clogwog!  You're a genius!
>


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