<http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/012811-open-source-challenge-microsoft.html?hpg1=bn>

<quote>
An open-source, cloud-based e-mail alternative to Microsoft Exchange
called Open-Xchange has signed up two new service providers and
predicts it will have 40 million users by the end of 2011.

Based in Germany, Open-Xchange has tripled its user base from 8
million to 24 million paid seats since 2008, with the help of three
dozen service providers including 1&1 Internet, among the world's
largest Web hosting companies. Open-Xchange has 7 million users in
North America today, but says most of its 2011 growth will occur on
this continent, in part due to new agreements with service providers
Lunarpages of California and Cirrus Tech in Toronto.
</quote>

"Hardon" <hardon.quirk@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:Rdb1p.739$qj7.203@newsfe02.iad...
> <http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/012811-open-source-challenge-microsoft.html?hpg1=bn>
>
> <quote>
> An open-source, cloud-based e-mail alternative to Microsoft Exchange
> called Open-Xchange has signed up two new service providers and
> predicts it will have 40 million users by the end of 2011.
>
> Based in Germany, Open-Xchange has tripled its user base from 8
> million to 24 million paid seats since 2008, with the help of three
> dozen service providers including 1&1 Internet, among the world's
> largest Web hosting companies. Open-Xchange has 7 million users in
> North America today, but says most of its 2011 growth will occur on
> this continent, in part due to new agreements with service providers
> Lunarpages of California and Cirrus Tech in Toronto.
> </quote>

Some perspective is in order here.  The article goes on to say "Microsoft 
Exchange Server, the 800-pound gorilla in the room, had a worldwide install 
base of 301 million mailboxes in 2010 and expects to reach 470 million by 
2014..."

So even if the fond hopes of the FOSSers is met by this (pay for) effort, it 
will not break the 1% share level for this mature market.  That makes it a 
true son of Linux!

The same seems to hold true for Google's massive efforts with mail systems:

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/092810-google-apps-market.html?ap1=rcb

The theme of FOSS could very well be Lazarus' "New Colossus" as written on 
the Statue of Liberty which states in part:

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe 
free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore.  Send these, the homeless, 
tempest-tossed to me,  I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

What a great way to collect all the losers in one place where they can be 
efficiently ignored! 

"amicus_curious" <acdc@sti.net> wrote in message 
news:4d459401$0$11787$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com...
>
>
> "Hardon" <hardon.quirk@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:Rdb1p.739$qj7.203@newsfe02.iad...
>> <http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/012811-open-source-challenge-microsoft.html?hpg1=bn>
>>
>> <quote>
>> An open-source, cloud-based e-mail alternative to Microsoft Exchange
>> called Open-Xchange has signed up two new service providers and
>> predicts it will have 40 million users by the end of 2011.
>>
>> Based in Germany, Open-Xchange has tripled its user base from 8
>> million to 24 million paid seats since 2008,

>
> Some perspective is in order here.  The article goes on to say "Microsoft 
> Exchange Server, the 800-pound gorilla in the room, had a worldwide 
> install base of 301 million mailboxes in 2010 and expects to reach 470 
> million by 2014..."
>
> So even if the fond hopes of the FOSSers is met by this (pay for) effort, 
> it will not break the 1% share level for this mature market.  That makes 
> it a true son of Linux!

Your math doesn't seen to add up here.

Current:
Open-Xchg = 24M
Msft Exchg  = 301M
Share = 8%

Forecast:
Open-Xchg = 40M  (this year)
Msft Exchg  = 470M (by 2014)
Share = Increased to >8.5% even when comparing 2011 to 2014.



What I like about Open Exchange is that there are a few of the simpler 
features in Exchange that I like to have for personal use. Example - On 
smartphones and PCs all of us have our own private contact list. But there's 
a few dozen people that we all share in our shared contact list so that we 
all have the latest info for everyone in that list.

Exchange makes this ridiculously simple, transparent and it just works 
great.  Same for shared calendars. But that's all that I want to do with 
Exchange and it's for family use. I have an ISP that hosts my FTP, website 
and email for my domain. My ISP also lets me add "MS Exchange" as an option 
to my account - it'll cost me $12.95/month per mailbox. With five family 
members that's $65/month to keep my contact list in-sync.  I'm not a 
freetard but I'm not about to piss my money away either.

( My web hosting is under $8/month and that's for 350GB storage, unlimited 
FTP/email, and dozens of free/proprietary apps. (IIS, MySQL, PHP, 
Flash-streaming, AJAX, .Net, etc, etc.  All that for under $8/month... 
syncing my contact list for $65/month. What's wrong with this picture? )

Luckily I found a "free" Exchange Server work-alike. Perhaps it doesn't have 
all of the fancy features that a corporation might want but it does all I 
need. Perhaps it's a "works for me" solution but the point is that there are 
a lot of people who can benefit from free/open solutions that exist.


 

On 1/30/2011 11:33 AM, amicus_curious wrote:
>
>
> "Hardon" <hardon.quirk@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Rdb1p.739$qj7.203@newsfe02.iad...
>> <http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/012811-open-source-challenge-microsoft.html?hpg1=bn>
>>
>>
>> <quote>
>> An open-source, cloud-based e-mail alternative to Microsoft Exchange
>> called Open-Xchange has signed up two new service providers and
>> predicts it will have 40 million users by the end of 2011.
>>
>> Based in Germany, Open-Xchange has tripled its user base from 8
>> million to 24 million paid seats since 2008, with the help of three
>> dozen service providers including 1&1 Internet, among the world's
>> largest Web hosting companies. Open-Xchange has 7 million users in
>> North America today, but says most of its 2011 growth will occur on
>> this continent, in part due to new agreements with service providers
>> Lunarpages of California and Cirrus Tech in Toronto.
>> </quote>
>
> Some perspective is in order here. The article goes on to say "Microsoft
> Exchange Server, the 800-pound gorilla in the room, had a worldwide
> install base of 301 million mailboxes in 2010 and expects to reach 470
> million by 2014..."
>
> So even if the fond hopes of the FOSSers is met by this (pay for)
> effort, it will not break the 1% share level for this mature market.
> That makes it a true son of Linux!
>
> The same seems to hold true for Google's massive efforts with mail systems:
>
> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/092810-google-apps-market.html?ap1=rcb
>
>
> The theme of FOSS could very well be Lazarus' "New Colossus" as written
> on the Statue of Liberty which states in part:
>
> "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe
> free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the
> homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
>
> What a great way to collect all the losers in one place where they can
> be efficiently ignored!

LMAO!!

but..but..but... Ernie Ball installed 80 Linux seats 10 years ago!

Linux won!

amicus_curious wrote:

> 
> 
> "Hardon" <hardon.quirk@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Rdb1p.739$qj7.203@newsfe02.iad...
>> <http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/012811-open-source-challenge-
microsoft.html?hpg1=bn>
>>
>> <quote>
>> An open-source, cloud-based e-mail alternative to Microsoft Exchange
>> called Open-Xchange has signed up two new service providers and
>> predicts it will have 40 million users by the end of 2011.
>>
>> Based in Germany, Open-Xchange has tripled its user base from 8
>> million to 24 million paid seats since 2008, with the help of three
>> dozen service providers including 1&1 Internet, among the world's
>> largest Web hosting companies. Open-Xchange has 7 million users in
>> North America today, but says most of its 2011 growth will occur on
>> this continent, in part due to new agreements with service providers
>> Lunarpages of California and Cirrus Tech in Toronto.
>> </quote>
> 
> Some perspective is in order here.  The article goes on to say "Microsoft
> Exchange Server, the 800-pound gorilla in the room, had a worldwide
> install base of 301 million mailboxes in 2010 and expects to reach 470
> million by 2014..."

<quote>
The statistics are based on completely anonymous information and were 
performed using randomly chosen IP addresses. When connecting to a mail 
server defined as an MX in the domain configuration, it can reply in a 
different number of ways. It may not be online, or may be refusing 
connections. Also, it is possible that the server does not respond back with 
a "220" line within the period of time we wait, nor provide a banner that 
identifies the type of the software running on it, at all times. 

Statistics Summary

As indicated in the table below, only 59,209 servers responded out of the 
total 2,818,895. The statistics below make use only of the information 
provided by the available servers.
Total number of scanned servers:		2,818,895
Total number of servers that did not respond:	2,759,686
Total number of available servers: 	59,209

(...)

Sendmail (24%)
Postfix (20%)
qmail (17%)
Microsoft Mail (15%)
Exim (13%)
IMail (2%)
Microsoft Exchange (1%)
Symantec Mail Security (1%)
InterMail (1%)
Lotus Domino (1%)
Other MTA (5%)
</quote>
http://www.mailradar.com/mailstat/

If "Microsoft Exchange Server,[is] the 800-pound gorilla" then Sendmail is 
King Kong!

> So even if the fond hopes of the FOSSers is met by this (pay for) effort,
> it will not break the 1% share level for this mature market.  

The bulk of mail servers are FOSS (I would bet many are running in 
GNU/Linux) and Microsoft Exchange is at 1%.

> That makes it a true son of Linux!

So true!

> (... sniped more ignorance ...)


Regards.

"Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> wrote in message 
news:ii477l$98e$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> "amicus_curious" <acdc@sti.net> wrote in message 
> news:4d459401$0$11787$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com...
>>
>>
>> "Hardon" <hardon.quirk@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:Rdb1p.739$qj7.203@newsfe02.iad...
>>> <http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/012811-open-source-challenge-microsoft.html?hpg1=bn>
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> An open-source, cloud-based e-mail alternative to Microsoft Exchange
>>> called Open-Xchange has signed up two new service providers and
>>> predicts it will have 40 million users by the end of 2011.
>>>
>>> Based in Germany, Open-Xchange has tripled its user base from 8
>>> million to 24 million paid seats since 2008,
>
>>
>> Some perspective is in order here.  The article goes on to say "Microsoft 
>> Exchange Server, the 800-pound gorilla in the room, had a worldwide 
>> install base of 301 million mailboxes in 2010 and expects to reach 470 
>> million by 2014..."
>>
>> So even if the fond hopes of the FOSSers is met by this (pay for) effort, 
>> it will not break the 1% share level for this mature market.  That makes 
>> it a true son of Linux!
>
> Your math doesn't seen to add up here.
>
> Current:
> Open-Xchg = 24M
> Msft Exchg  = 301M
> Share = 8%
>
> Forecast:
> Open-Xchg = 40M  (this year)
> Msft Exchg  = 470M (by 2014)
> Share = Increased to >8.5% even when comparing 2011 to 2014.
>
You are absolutely correct and I am sadly mistaken.
>
>
> What I like about Open Exchange is that there are a few of the simpler 
> features in Exchange that I like to have for personal use. Example - On 
> smartphones and PCs all of us have our own private contact list. But 
> there's a few dozen people that we all share in our shared contact list so 
> that we all have the latest info for everyone in that list.
>
> Exchange makes this ridiculously simple, transparent and it just works 
> great.  Same for shared calendars. But that's all that I want to do with 
> Exchange and it's for family use. I have an ISP that hosts my FTP, website 
> and email for my domain. My ISP also lets me add "MS Exchange" as an 
> option to my account - it'll cost me $12.95/month per mailbox. With five 
> family members that's $65/month to keep my contact list in-sync.  I'm not 
> a freetard but I'm not about to piss my money away either.
>
> ( My web hosting is under $8/month and that's for 350GB storage, unlimited 
> FTP/email, and dozens of free/proprietary apps. (IIS, MySQL, PHP, 
> Flash-streaming, AJAX, .Net, etc, etc.  All that for under $8/month... 
> syncing my contact list for $65/month. What's wrong with this picture? )
>
Open-Xchange, as referenced in the article, was "only" $5 per seat.  Are you 
willing to pay that much?


> Luckily I found a "free" Exchange Server work-alike. Perhaps it doesn't 
> have all of the fancy features that a corporation might want but it does 
> all I need. Perhaps it's a "works for me" solution but the point is that 
> there are a lot of people who can benefit from free/open solutions that 
> exist.
>
>
>
>