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The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.
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Reply praxis (23) 7/19/2004 9:25:55 PM

Praxis Happenstance wrote:
> 
> The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.

shhh! don't say it! or M$ will patent it and add it to longhorn and 
pretend that they invented it and Linux stole it!!! ;)

Bye,
   Luca
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Reply lucat (167) 7/19/2004 10:29:55 PM


On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:25:55 -0700, Praxis Happenstance wrote:

> The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.

Since when hasn't Windows done that? Not only did Microsoft invent the
mouse wheel, they had the first software to use it (which allows you to
scroll vertically and horizontally using it, as well as free panning by
clicking it in), and they also invented the tilt wheel to allow horizontal
and vertical scrolling in windows which allow both.

Nice try though.
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Reply Simon 7/20/2004 7:18:40 AM

Simon Cooke wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:25:55 -0700, Praxis Happenstance wrote:
> 
>> The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.
> 
> Since when hasn't Windows done that? Not only did Microsoft invent the
> mouse wheel, they had the first software to use it (which allows you to


Then why is Apple patenting it?

http://www.macobserver.com/columns/devilsadvocate/2003/20030425.shtml


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Reply cunning (35) 7/20/2004 12:54:29 PM

Drakkar Noir wrote:

> Simon Cooke wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:25:55 -0700, Praxis Happenstance wrote:
>> 
>>> The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.
>> 
>> Since when hasn't Windows done that? Not only did Microsoft invent the
>> mouse wheel, they had the first software to use it (which allows you to
> 
> 
> Then why is Apple patenting it?
> 
> http://www.macobserver.com/columns/devilsadvocate/2003/20030425.shtml

OH, and in case he was going to refer to the m$ patent let it be noted:

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/print.php/3322891

In this case, "Prior art devices" refers to an earlier mouse design.
Microsoft points out that Microside Corp. of Miami, Fla., made a "Micro
Scroll II" mouse, which also implemented control of horizontal movement.
However, that mouse had two wheels, which might be considered more
cumbersome than Microsoft's single-wheel solution. 

In other words, yes, they patented it, but no, they did not 'invent' it.


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Reply gaston4200 (12) 7/20/2004 1:06:00 PM

"Luca T." <lucat@despammed.com> wrote in message news:<2m30b7Fib2ojU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> Praxis Happenstance wrote:
> > 
> > The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.
> 
> shhh! don't say it! or M$ will patent it and add it to longhorn and 
> pretend that they invented it and Linux stole it!!! ;)
> 
> Bye,
>    Luca

Like the SCO-code-copy & Linux-code-paste thingy? Idiot, Longhorn will
kick linfux ass, as Win Server 2003 does now!


W-2004!


Peter Bilt, American!
MCSE+ Internet
Windows Server 2003
Born in the USA!
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Reply peterbilt_usa (255) 7/20/2004 5:23:25 PM

Simon Cooke wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:25:55 -0700, Praxis Happenstance wrote:
> 
> 
>>The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.
> 
> 
> Since when hasn't Windows done that? Not only did Microsoft invent the
> mouse wheel, they had the first software to use it (which allows you to
> scroll vertically and horizontally using it, as well as free panning by
> clicking it in)

the panning was a separate technology from ages before the first mouse 
wheel - back when the gimmick was a middle scroll _button_
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Reply usenet6271 (39) 7/20/2004 8:58:44 PM

Peter Bilt wrote:
> Like the SCO-code-copy & Linux-code-paste thingy? Idiot, Longhorn will
> kick linfux ass, as Win Server 2003 does now!

LOL!
We will see, oh and btw: you are the idiot here.

With love,
   Luca

NOT born in the USA!
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Reply lucat (167) 7/20/2004 9:20:39 PM

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:58:44 -0500, Jordan Abel wrote:

> Simon Cooke wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:25:55 -0700, Praxis Happenstance wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.
>> 
>> 
>> Since when hasn't Windows done that? Not only did Microsoft invent the
>> mouse wheel, they had the first software to use it (which allows you to
>> scroll vertically and horizontally using it, as well as free panning by
>> clicking it in)
> 
> the panning was a separate technology from ages before the first mouse 
> wheel - back when the gimmick was a middle scroll _button_

I wasn't claiming that the panning was an invention or that it was
innovative - I claimed it was a property of their mousewheel software.
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Reply simonREMOVEcooke (368) 7/21/2004 5:49:05 AM

Simon Cooke wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:58:44 -0500, Jordan Abel wrote:
> 
>> Simon Cooke wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:25:55 -0700, Praxis Happenstance wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Since when hasn't Windows done that? Not only did Microsoft invent the
>>> mouse wheel, they had the first software to use it (which allows you to
>>> scroll vertically and horizontally using it, as well as free panning by
>>> clicking it in)
>> 
>> the panning was a separate technology from ages before the first mouse
>> wheel - back when the gimmick was a middle scroll _button_
> 
> I wasn't claiming that the panning was an invention or that it was
> innovative - I claimed it was a property of their mousewheel software.

Which will not horizontal scroll a browser.

Case closed.


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Reply fj1 (9) 7/21/2004 7:32:44 AM

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:32:44 GMT, Fa' Jim Shinlecki wrote:

> Simon Cooke wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:58:44 -0500, Jordan Abel wrote:
>> 
>>> Simon Cooke wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:25:55 -0700, Praxis Happenstance wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Since when hasn't Windows done that? Not only did Microsoft invent the
>>>> mouse wheel, they had the first software to use it (which allows you to
>>>> scroll vertically and horizontally using it, as well as free panning by
>>>> clicking it in)
>>> 
>>> the panning was a separate technology from ages before the first mouse
>>> wheel - back when the gimmick was a middle scroll _button_
>> 
>> I wasn't claiming that the panning was an invention or that it was
>> innovative - I claimed it was a property of their mousewheel software.
> 
> Which will not horizontal scroll a browser.
> 
> Case closed.

Yes, it will horizontally scroll a browser.
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Reply simonREMOVEcooke (368) 7/21/2004 8:02:08 AM

Simon Cooke wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:32:44 GMT, Fa' Jim Shinlecki wrote:
> 
>> Simon Cooke wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:58:44 -0500, Jordan Abel wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Simon Cooke wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:25:55 -0700, Praxis Happenstance wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since when hasn't Windows done that? Not only did Microsoft invent the
>>>>> mouse wheel, they had the first software to use it (which allows you
>>>>> to scroll vertically and horizontally using it, as well as free
>>>>> panning by clicking it in)
>>>> 
>>>> the panning was a separate technology from ages before the first mouse
>>>> wheel - back when the gimmick was a middle scroll _button_
>>> 
>>> I wasn't claiming that the panning was an invention or that it was
>>> innovative - I claimed it was a property of their mousewheel software.
>> 
>> Which will not horizontal scroll a browser.
>> 
>> Case closed.
> 
> Yes, it will horizontally scroll a browser.

No it won't.
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Reply fj1 (9) 7/21/2004 2:35:27 PM

Simon Cooke wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:32:44 GMT, Fa' Jim Shinlecki wrote:
> 
> 
>>Simon Cooke wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:58:44 -0500, Jordan Abel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Simon Cooke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:25:55 -0700, Praxis Happenstance wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Since when hasn't Windows done that? Not only did Microsoft invent the
>>>>>mouse wheel, they had the first software to use it (which allows you to
>>>>>scroll vertically and horizontally using it, as well as free panning by
>>>>>clicking it in)
>>>>
>>>>the panning was a separate technology from ages before the first mouse
>>>>wheel - back when the gimmick was a middle scroll _button_
>>>
>>>I wasn't claiming that the panning was an invention or that it was
>>>innovative - I claimed it was a property of their mousewheel software.
>>
>>Which will not horizontal scroll a browser.
>>
>>Case closed.
> 
> 
> Yes, it will horizontally scroll a browser.

And another thing.

I just booted into Windows 2000, with IE6, to test your claim.

In IE, I mouseOver the horizontal scrollbar, run the wheel on my 
Logitech mouse  , and ---  NOTHING HAPPENS.

Yet, in Konqueror, doing the same thing, it will horizontal scroll.

Simon, if this doesn't prove that you are a lying little skankmouse, I 
don't know what will !


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Reply praxis (23) 7/21/2004 3:47:32 PM

On 2004-07-21, Praxis Happenstance <praxis@happenstance.happening> sputtered:
> Simon Cooke wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:32:44 GMT, Fa' Jim Shinlecki wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>Simon Cooke wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:58:44 -0500, Jordan Abel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Simon Cooke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:25:55 -0700, Praxis Happenstance wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Since when hasn't Windows done that? Not only did Microsoft invent the
>>>>>>mouse wheel, they had the first software to use it (which allows you to
>>>>>>scroll vertically and horizontally using it, as well as free panning by
>>>>>>clicking it in)
>>>>>
>>>>>the panning was a separate technology from ages before the first mouse
>>>>>wheel - back when the gimmick was a middle scroll _button_
>>>>
>>>>I wasn't claiming that the panning was an invention or that it was
>>>>innovative - I claimed it was a property of their mousewheel software.
>>>
>>>Which will not horizontal scroll a browser.
>>>
>>>Case closed.
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, it will horizontally scroll a browser.
>
> And another thing.
>
> I just booted into Windows 2000, with IE6, to test your claim.
>
> In IE, I mouseOver the horizontal scrollbar, run the wheel on my 
> Logitech mouse  , and ---  NOTHING HAPPENS.

I think you're supposed to help WinDoze out by using the cursor key and
mouse wheel at the same time.

> Yet, in Konqueror, doing the same thing, it will horizontal scroll.
>
> Simon, if this doesn't prove that you are a lying little skankmouse, I 
> don't know what will !

No. He speaks M$ Truth-7.5 SP2. That's the version just prior to the
one used by Ken Brown at Alex Do-Toke-a-bowl.

-- 
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heels, fishnets, and a bustier, walking down to the corner of Virus St
and Trojan Ave, and shouting "Hello, Sailor!".
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Reply sinister2419 (3164) 7/21/2004 4:11:15 PM

The original post concerned K Desktop Environment, not Konqueror. Yes,
horizontal scrolling does not work in Internet Explorer, but it does work in
Windows Explorer.


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Reply dodo1625 (24) 7/21/2004 4:28:32 PM

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Oy! Listen to Dodo's latest shpiel!

> The original post concerned K Desktop Environment, not Konqueror.

Konqui's built on the same toolkit as the rest of KDE (QT).  But just to
test it further, I shrunk this Kontact window, and rolled around the
horizontal bar.  I'll give you three guesses, so long as the first two
incorrect ones are "nothing" and "something other than horizontal
scrolling".

> Yes, horizontal scrolling does not work in Internet Explorer, but it does
> work in Windows Explorer.

Aren't those the same thing?

- -- 
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artoodeetoo (at) gmail (dot) com
Internet Explorer:  the world's most standards-complaint web browser

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Reply dev98 (277) 7/22/2004 5:36:33 AM

Internet Explorer is a web browser.
Windows Explorer is the Windows GUI.


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Reply dodo1625 (24) 7/22/2004 6:12:33 AM

On 2004-07-22, Dodo <dodo@no.fly> sputtered:
> Internet Explorer is a web browser.

It is??

> Windows Explorer is the Windows GUI.

It is??

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krill. Our only purpose is to breed, feed and get squeezed against its
giant tongue until every last drop of money is released.
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Reply sinister2419 (3164) 7/22/2004 6:36:18 AM

begin  Dodo wrote:

> Internet Explorer is a web browser.
> Windows Explorer is the Windows GUI.

And uses about 99% of the same core logic (DLLs)

Yeah, windows is for shure consistent...
-- 
Microsoft? Is that some kind of a toilet paper?

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Reply Peter.Koehlmann (13202) 7/22/2004 6:45:29 AM

Error BR-549: MS DRM 1.0 rejects the following post from Praxis Happenstance:

> The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.

I've skimmed the rest of the thread and just wanted to mention something.
I don't have the scroll wheel of my MS mouse (the only MS part on this machine
unless I decide to install Crossover Office on it like I did on the laptop) set
up to do scrolling, I like to use it for copy/paste (probably can set it up to
do both functions).

For vertical scrolling (paging actually) I prefer space and shift-space.  Much
less hand-waving and attendant wrist damage.

(The down side of this is that, when using MS tools such as MS Turd, you really
 don't want to be hitting the space bar to page down.)

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Reply iso 7/22/2004 11:34:49 AM

begin  <072dnTqNofjEO2LdRVn-qw@comcast.com>,
	Lin�nut <lin�nut@bone.com> writes:
> Error BR-549: MS DRM 1.0 rejects the following post from Praxis Happenstance:
> 
>> The mouse wheel can be used for horizontal scrolling in KDE.
> 
> I've skimmed the rest of the thread and just wanted to mention
> something.  I don't have the scroll wheel of my MS mouse (the only
> MS part on this machine unless I decide to install Crossover Office
> on it like I did on the laptop) set up to do scrolling, I like to
> use it for copy/paste (probably can set it up to do both functions).

It does allow both scrolling and paste. The only problem I have with
it is sometimes when I'm scrolling I press too hard and it pastes
whatever I last selected. Doesn't happen often though. I've become
dependant on a scroll wheel. :-(
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Reply rgc4 (3216) 7/22/2004 12:47:09 PM

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 01:12:33 -0500, Dodo wrote:

> Internet Explorer is a web browser.
> Windows Explorer is the Windows GUI.

Windows Explorer is the Windows file manager, which also happens to be
used as the system shell - the desktop manager in this case.  In both
guises, it rides on top of IE support to manage displaying of things.


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Reply kelseyb (715) 7/22/2004 1:16:28 PM

Peter Bilt wrote:

> Peter K�hlmann <Peter.Koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote in message news:<cdnnjj$1be$05$1@news.t-online.com>...

>>begin  Dodo wrote:

>>>Internet Explorer is a web browser.
>>>Windows Explorer is the Windows GUI.

>>And uses about 99% of the same core logic (DLLs)

>>Yeah, windows is for shure consistent...

> Idiot.

Why do you post through open proxies all the time ?

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Reply dave.cooper (22) 7/22/2004 7:21:39 PM

Peter K�hlmann <Peter.Koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote in message news:<cdnnjj$1be$05$1@news.t-online.com>...
> begin  Dodo wrote:
> 
> > Internet Explorer is a web browser.
> > Windows Explorer is the Windows GUI.
> 
> And uses about 99% of the same core logic (DLLs)
> 
> Yeah, windows is for shure consistent...

Idiot.
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Reply peterbilt_usa (255) 7/22/2004 7:55:45 PM

begin  On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:21:39 -0400, Dave wrote this message:

> Peter Bilt wrote:
> 
>> Peter K�hlmann <Peter.Koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote in message news:<cdnnjj$1be$05$1@news.t-online.com>...
> 
>>>begin  Dodo wrote:
> 
>>>>Internet Explorer is a web browser.
>>>>Windows Explorer is the Windows GUI.
> 
>>>And uses about 99% of the same core logic (DLLs)
> 
>>>Yeah, windows is for shure consistent...
> 
>> Idiot.
> 
> Why do you post through open proxies all the time ?

Because he's a dumb wintroll.

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program to date, Microsoft Windows, 
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Reply willpoast (5096) 7/22/2004 10:19:42 PM

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Dodo
<dodo@no.fly>
 wrote
on Thu, 22 Jul 2004 01:12:33 -0500
<34ea6$40ff5acc$43663cd2$21970@msgid.meganewsservers.com>:
> Internet Explorer is a web browser.
> Windows Explorer is the Windows GUI.
>
>

IE4 was ... interesting.  Even today, there are aspects
of IE's behavior on Win2k that suggest that the dichotomy
is a little blurrier than one might think.

[1] Open IE, point it at http://www.cnn.com .  Now select the
    'http://www.cnn.com' in the URL bar and type in something
    like 'file:///C:/'.  Interesting behavior, although technically
    there is a split in functionality, at the widget level, perhaps.

[2] Open Windows Explorer.  (Start>Programs>Accessories)
    Click on "My Desktop" (in the typein bar at the top).
    Type in http://www.cnn.com .  Close the treenav sidebar.

Hmm.

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Reply ewill4 (1429) 7/24/2004 12:01:06 AM

Yes, I am fully aware of that functionality. You don't even have to type
'file:///c:/'. You can just type 'c:'. These applications are somewhat
integrated, but certainly not the same application.


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Reply dodo1625 (24) 7/24/2004 5:48:28 AM

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