Suse 9.0 - comp.os.linux.advocacy

Ok. So I thought that those disks I bought from Amazon for $6.99 were a rook. But they weren't ! They are the real Suse 9.0 Professional. I got tired of Fedora, partly because RedHat is so pussy when it comes to proprietary media formats such as mp3 and cds, and I really wanted to try Suse and I woke up at 4am this morning and couldn't sleep. All of those things spelled: Linux installation. I thought the Fedora install was a dream but Suse is like a dream in heaven with lots of hot chics. For example, it not only did the install, but it did all the online upgrades in the process. And the part that Fedora had trouble with, setting up a DSL connection, was a breeze with Suse. But the cool part is: I set up a windos partition which I have to use to work from home. Ok, so that was there and the Fedora was there on the other 30G. Suse asked, do you want to switch Linux installations -- like it knew there was another Linux on there. Cool. It didn't ask about boot config, so I was worried it would wipe the NTFS partitions, but, ok, so what, i can reinstall. So I /accept/ and off it goes. Not only does it keep the dual boot, BUT it shows the NTFS partitions in KDE! Gnome/Fedora didn't do that. I can browse and access all the files! Suse amazes me. -- Kent Crazy B.V.

Hi John Bailo , You mention , " Suse amazes me " , Hmm ... Suse sounds interesting , Maybe I should stroll over to my local bookstore and buy a cheap Suse CD . But I don't have much free disk space , only 3 gigs , and I wouldn't want to erase my Win98 hard disk . P.S. I'm leaving for Portland this afternoon , I'll be back late tomorrow . I'm taking a non-stop Greyhound bus , a 3 hour trip . It's 43 dollars for the round trip .

Jeff Relf wrote: > Hi John Bailo , You mention , " Suse amazes me " , > > Hmm ... Suse sounds interesting , > Maybe I should stroll over to my local bookstore > and buy a cheap Suse CD . Mine was $6.95 from Amazon, but it cost another $7 because I wanted fast shipping. Then I bought the full version for $90. > > But I don't have much free disk space , only 3 gigs , > and I wouldn't want to erase my Win98 hard disk . Suse is smart enought to set up dual boot and recognize a DOS partition -- 3 G should be just enough to run a Linux install. > > P.S. I'm leaving for Portland this afternoon , > I'll be back late tomorrow . > I'm taking a non-stop Greyhound bus , a 3 hour trip . > It's 43 dollars for the round trip . You should check out amtrak. Some times their fees are just as low with advance purchase. -- Kent Crazy B.V.

Hi John Bailo , Re: Amtrak , Compared to the non-stop Greyhound , I think Amtrak is about an hour slower . And I'm going to buy my ticket just before I board . ( I didn't have much notice anyways ) I think I'm going to take a small pillow with me , along with some sunflower seeds and a 16 oz water bottle . Re: Installing Suse , How do I create the dos partition without erasing my Hard disk ? ( Is it a logical partition ? )

Jeff Relf wrote: > Hi John Bailo , Re: Suse , You mention , > Then I bought the full version for $90 , > > Why ? My home machine is important to me and I want a fully licensed and supported product. -- Kent Crazy B.V.

Jeff Relf wrote: > Hi John Bailo , Re: Amtrak , > Compared to the non-stop Greyhound , > I think Amtrak is about an hour slower . Not if you take the Acela. Those are the Spanish made trains that /tilt/ on the curve. I think they can make it in an hour. > > And I'm going to buy my ticket just before I board . > ( I didn't have much notice anyways ) You can do that with Amtrak too on the Portland runs. > > I think I'm going to take a small pillow with me , > along with some sunflower seeds and a 16 oz water bottle . > > Re: Installing Suse , How do I create the dos partition > without erasing my Hard disk ? It does it for you. > ( Is it a logical partition ? ) Not sure what you mean. -- Kent Crazy B.V.

Jeff Relf wrote: > Hi John Bailo , > Re: Why you bought the full version of Suse , > You comment , > " I want a fully licensed and supported product " , > > What does the license give you ? > > What support ? http://www.suse.de/en/business/services/support/ -- Kent Crazy B.V.

Hi John Bailo , Re: the Acela , For Tuesday and Wednesday , I didn't see that as an option , http://tickets.amtrak.com/Amtrak/sid=4D4645ABA9619E294716F08B3D6F0669/availability?storefront=1003&pageID=main The slower train is 60 dollars for the round trip , and it's only 15 minutes slower , 3:30 instead of 3:15 . When I ask to the Acela only times , I get , http://tickets.amtrak.com/Amtrak/sid=4D4645ABA9619E294716F08B3D6F0669/main?storefront=1003&pageID=availability " We are sorry , the service you requested is not available . Please try a different route and/or different dates . Thank you . "

Hi John Bailo , Re: What the 90 dollar version of Suse gives you , You cite , http://www.suse.de/en/business/services/support/ , Hmm ... For the price , that's a lot more support than Microsoft offers .

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 07:58:59 -0800, Jeff Relf wrote: > Hi John Bailo , Re: the Acela , You can rent a car at Economy with unlimited milage for $20 a day. > > For Tuesday and Wednesday , > I didn't see that as an option , > http://tickets.amtrak.com/Amtrak/sid=4D4645ABA9619E294716F08B3D6F0669/availability?storefront=1003&pageID=main > > The slower train is 60 dollars for the round trip , > and it's only 15 minutes slower , > 3:30 instead of 3:15 . > > When I ask to the Acela only times , I get , > http://tickets.amtrak.com/Amtrak/sid=4D4645ABA9619E294716F08B3D6F0669/main?storefront=1003&pageID=availability > " We are sorry , > the service you requested is not available . > Please try a different route and/or different dates . > Thank you . " -- W '04 <:> Open Source

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:54:25 +0000, john wrote: > On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 14:14:02 +0000, John Bailo wrote: > > >> Ok. So I thought that those disks I bought from Amazon for $6.99 were a >> rook. But they weren't ! They are the real Suse 9.0 Professional. I >> got tired of Fedora, partly because RedHat is so pussy when it comes to >> proprietary media formats such as mp3 and cds, and I really wanted to >> try Suse and I woke up at 4am this morning and couldn't sleep. >> >> All of those things spelled: Linux installation. >> >> I thought the Fedora install was a dream but Suse is like a dream in >> heaven with lots of hot chics. For example, it not only did the >> install, but it did all the online upgrades in the process. And the >> part that Fedora had trouble with, setting up a DSL connection, was a >> breeze with Suse. >> >> But the cool part is: I set up a windos partition which I have to use to >> work from home. Ok, so that was there and the Fedora was there on the >> other 30G. Suse asked, do you want to switch Linux installations -- >> like it knew there was another Linux on there. Cool. It didn't ask >> about boot config, so I was worried it would wipe the NTFS partitions, >> but, ok, so what, i can reinstall. So I /accept/ and off it goes. >> >> Not only does it keep the dual boot, BUT it shows the NTFS partitions in >> KDE! Gnome/Fedora didn't do that. I can browse and access all the >> files! >> >> Suse amazes me. > > I first tried Linux circa RH8 and it completely bombed on my system. I > expected much the same on my return to Linux with SuSE 9 but it was > exactly the opposite. There's nothing there that would intimidate the > gnubie. I use Mandrake now because--well, nothing I can put my finger on, > I just feel happier with it. Still, Suse is easier to install than > Mandrake, IME, if only because Mandrake doesn't detect my modem or install > kppp by default--which baffled me at first. Thesedays, the speed and ease > of the typical Linux installation puts Windows to shame (why does XP take > *that* long to /register components/ anyway?). EXACTLY ! Suse does the equivalent of installing the whole OS AND all the updates in a single install AND without rebooting for all the service packs and major updates! The whole argument of Linux being hard to configure has just gone out the troll window. -- W '04 <:> Open Source

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 14:14:02 +0000, John Bailo wrote: > Ok. So I thought that those disks I bought from Amazon for $6.99 were a > rook. But they weren't ! They are the real Suse 9.0 Professional. I > got tired of Fedora, partly because RedHat is so pussy when it comes to > proprietary media formats such as mp3 and cds, and I really wanted to > try Suse and I woke up at 4am this morning and couldn't sleep. > > All of those things spelled: Linux installation. > > I thought the Fedora install was a dream but Suse is like a dream in > heaven with lots of hot chics. For example, it not only did the > install, but it did all the online upgrades in the process. And the > part that Fedora had trouble with, setting up a DSL connection, was a > breeze with Suse. > > But the cool part is: I set up a windos partition which I have to use to > work from home. Ok, so that was there and the Fedora was there on the > other 30G. Suse asked, do you want to switch Linux installations -- > like it knew there was another Linux on there. Cool. It didn't ask > about boot config, so I was worried it would wipe the NTFS partitions, > but, ok, so what, i can reinstall. So I /accept/ and off it goes. > > Not only does it keep the dual boot, BUT it shows the NTFS partitions in > KDE! Gnome/Fedora didn't do that. I can browse and access all the > files! > > Suse amazes me. I first tried Linux circa RH8 and it completely bombed on my system. I expected much the same on my return to Linux with SuSE 9 but it was exactly the opposite. There's nothing there that would intimidate the gnubie. I use Mandrake now because--well, nothing I can put my finger on, I just feel happier with it. Still, Suse is easier to install than Mandrake, IME, if only because Mandrake doesn't detect my modem or install kppp by default--which baffled me at first. Thesedays, the speed and ease of the typical Linux installation puts Windows to shame (why does XP take *that* long to /register components/ anyway?). -- Powered by Mandrake Linux Registered Linux user 337927 - http://counter.li.org/

A car rental would probably require a drivers license which I would be willing to bet does not exist in Jeff's reality. "John Bailo" <jabailo@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:bc6c8d34ea07177d7c08cbaebb155734@news.teranews.com... > On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 07:58:59 -0800, Jeff Relf wrote: > > > Hi John Bailo , Re: the Acela , > > You can rent a car at Economy with unlimited milage for $20 a day. > > > > > > For Tuesday and Wednesday , > > I didn't see that as an option , > > http://tickets.amtrak.com/Amtrak/sid=4D4645ABA9619E294716F08B3D6F0669/availability?storefront=1003&pageID=main > > > > The slower train is 60 dollars for the round trip , > > and it's only 15 minutes slower , > > 3:30 instead of 3:15 . > > > > When I ask to the Acela only times , I get , > > http://tickets.amtrak.com/Amtrak/sid=4D4645ABA9619E294716F08B3D6F0669/main?storefront=1003&pageID=availability > > " We are sorry , > > the service you requested is not available . > > Please try a different route and/or different dates . > > Thank you . " > > -- > W '04 <:> Open Source >

John Bailo wrote: > Not only does it keep the dual boot, BUT it shows the NTFS partitions in > KDE!��Gnome/Fedora�didn't�do�that.��I�can�browse�and�access�all�the�files! > > Suse amazes me. > reading NTFS is a feature of Linux Kernel. Besides Redhat which does not compile this feature of kernel for copyright considerations; any other distro with 2.4.20 (was it 2.4.20 with NTFS read capability) or later kernel should be able to read NTFS. It is not a Just SuSE feature, (the way YaST is for example).

Hi John Bailo , Re: Going from Seattle to Portland and back, You offer, " You can rent a car at Economy with unlimited mileage for $20 a day. " , Like you, I don't have a driver's license. Besides, that's two days, 40 bucks, then over two tanks of gas, 80 bucks, for a total of 120 bucks. After sales tax, The train is 66, and the bus is 47, round trip. At any rate, I changed my mind at the last minute, I decided not to go.

John Bailo wrote: > > Ok. So I thought that those disks I bought from Amazon for $6.99 were a > rook. But they weren't ! They are the real Suse 9.0 Professional. I > got tired of Fedora, partly because RedHat is so pussy when it comes to > proprietary media formats such as mp3 and cds, and I really wanted to try > Suse and I woke up at 4am this morning and couldn't sleep. > > All of those things spelled: Linux installation. > > I thought the Fedora install was a dream but Suse is like a dream in > heaven > with lots of hot chics. For example, it not only did the install, but it > did all the online upgrades in the process. And the part that Fedora had > trouble with, setting up a DSL connection, was a breeze with Suse. > > But the cool part is: I set up a windos partition which I have to use to > work from home. Ok, so that was there and the Fedora was there on the > other 30G. Suse asked, do you want to switch Linux installations -- like > it knew there was another Linux on there. Cool. It didn't ask about boot > config, so I was worried it would wipe the NTFS partitions, but, ok, so > what, i can reinstall. So I /accept/ and off it goes. > > Not only does it keep the dual boot, BUT it shows the NTFS partitions in > KDE! Gnome/Fedora didn't do that. I can browse and access all the files! > > Suse amazes me. > Glad to hear you like it. I was thoroughly impressed with it, too.