Upgrade your Ubuntu crapware... and lose the ability to send/receive email

"I had a bunch of errors come up during the upgrade. I couldn't keep up with notating them all. It also caused problems with my evolution mail program. I can no longer send and receive emails when I had no problems in the past." #1280 at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic+freeze&page=128 "Ubuntu is perfect for laptops and desktops"

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:24:10 -0500, DFS wrote: > "I had a bunch of errors come up during the upgrade. I couldn't keep up > with notating them all. It also caused problems with my evolution mail > program. I can no longer send and receive emails when I had no problems > in the past." > > #1280 at > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic +freeze&page=128 > > > > "Ubuntu is perfect for laptops and desktops" Windows 7 - Upgrade Unsuccessful -Reboot Loop <http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7install/ thread/0275d4ac-a6ca-4992-b6e5-dc128cc5f86c> "Hello, I purchased Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit. I am attempting to upgrade from Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit. On the last step of the upgrade (transferring files/programs/etc), my laptop rebooted and came to a screen telling me the upgrade was unsuccessful and my previous OS files would now be restored. My laptop is now in what seems to be a loop of restarting and trying to restore the files." -- Rick

(p)Rick the scumbag changed the thread title so I had to restore it: "I had a bunch of errors come up during the upgrade. I couldn't keep up with notating them all. It also caused problems with my evolution mail program. I can no longer send and receive emails when I had no problems in the past." #1280 at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic+freeze&page=128 "Ubuntu is perfect for laptops and desktops" > Windows 7 - Upgrade Unsuccessful -Reboot Loop > <http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7install/ > thread/0275d4ac-a6ca-4992-b6e5-dc128cc5f86c> > > "Hello, I purchased Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit. I am attempting to > upgrade from Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit. On the last step of > the upgrade (transferring files/programs/etc), my laptop rebooted and > came to a screen telling me the upgrade was unsuccessful and my > previous OS files would now be restored. My laptop is now in what > seems to be a loop of restarting and trying to restore the files." Same thing happened when I tried to install WinServer 2003 Service Pack 2. Note for (p)Rick: you will NEVER find a case where 35% of Windows (any version, ever) installers/upgraders had many problems they couldn't solve. That pathetic level of crapware/nightmare/epic failure is found ONLY in Linux la-la land. And you wonder why we laugh at Linux hobbyware...

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:24:10 -0500, DFS wrote: > "I had a bunch of errors come up during the upgrade. I couldn't keep up > with notating them all. It also caused problems with my evolution mail > program. I can no longer send and receive emails when I had no problems > in the past." > > #1280 at > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic +freeze&page=128 > > > > "Ubuntu is perfect for laptops and desktops" So you want me to go to the Windows forums and copy and paste everyone's problems on the Windows newsgroups? Personally I don't have the time, and my brain is not small enough to enjoy something like that. Get a life, DuFuS. -- RonB Registered Linux User #498581 CentOS 5.4 or Vector Linux Deluxe 6.0

RonB wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:24:10 -0500, DFS wrote: > >> "I had a bunch of errors come up during the upgrade. I couldn't keep up >> with notating them all. It also caused problems with my evolution mail >> program. I can no longer send and receive emails when I had no problems >> in the past." >> >> #1280 at >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic > +freeze&page=128 >> >> >> >> "Ubuntu is perfect for laptops and desktops" > > So you want me to go to the Windows forums and copy and paste everyone's > problems on the Windows newsgroups? Personally I don't have the time, and > my brain is not small enough to enjoy something like that. > > Get a life, DuFuS. Response from DooFu$: Cool! Can I download one from M$ website? -- Frankincense is not a monster.

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:09:21 -0500, DFS wrote: > (p)Rick the scumbag changed the thread title so I had to restore it: > (snip) > > Note for (p)Rick: you will NEVER find a case where (snip) > > And you wonder why we laugh at Linux hobbyware... I know why you do. Your stupidity and dishonesty. If it is so bad, why do you find it running so many supercomputers? -- Rick

Rick stated in post _OednVbqG4if18HWnZ2dnUVZ_vhi4p2d@supernews.com on 1/24/10 6:24 AM: > On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:09:21 -0500, DFS wrote: > >> (p)Rick the scumbag changed the thread title so I had to restore it: >> > (snip) >> >> Note for (p)Rick: you will NEVER find a case where (snip) >> >> And you wonder why we laugh at Linux hobbyware... > > I know why you do. Your stupidity and dishonesty. > > If it is so bad, why do you find it running so many supercomputers? > > You sure snip a lot. Only way you think you can get in the last word, eh? -- [INSERT .SIG HERE]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:20:06 -0700, Snit wrote: > Rick stated in post _OednVbqG4if18HWnZ2dnUVZ_vhi4p2d@supernews.com on > 1/24/10 6:24 AM: > >> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:09:21 -0500, DFS wrote: >> >>> (p)Rick the scumbag changed the thread title so I had to restore it: >>> >> (snip) >>> >>> Note for (p)Rick: you will NEVER find a case where (snip) >>> >>> And you wonder why we laugh at Linux hobbyware... >> >> I know why you do. Your stupidity and dishonesty. >> >> If it is so bad, why do you find it running so many supercomputers? >> >> > You sure snip a lot. Only way you think you can get in the last word, > eh? you sure beg for my attention a lot. -- Rick

RonB wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:24:10 -0500, DFS wrote: > >> "I had a bunch of errors come up during the upgrade. I couldn't keep >> up with notating them all. It also caused problems with my evolution >> mail program. I can no longer send and receive emails when I had no >> problems in the past." >> >> #1280 at >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic >> +freeze&page=128 >> >> "Ubuntu is perfect for laptops and desktops" > > So you want me to go to the Windows forums and copy and paste > everyone's problems on the Windows newsgroups? No RonG, I want you to tell me why a Linux distro whose developers claim is "perfect for laptops and desktops" has so many endless and bullshit problems running on laptops and desktops. > Personally I don't have the time, But you have the time to waste shuffling Linux distros. > and my brain is not small enough to enjoy something like that. It's small enough to enjoy regularly lying about MS and Windows, so why not? > Get a life, DuFuS. Get a grip, RonG.

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:58:13 -0500, DFS wrote: > RonB wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:24:10 -0500, DFS wrote: >> >>> "I had a bunch of errors come up during the upgrade. I couldn't keep >>> up with notating them all. It also caused problems with my evolution >>> mail program. I can no longer send and receive emails when I had no >>> problems in the past." >>> >>> #1280 at >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic >>> +freeze&page=128 >>> >>> "Ubuntu is perfect for laptops and desktops" >> >> So you want me to go to the Windows forums and copy and paste >> everyone's problems on the Windows newsgroups? > > > No RonG, I want you to tell me why a Linux distro whose developers claim > is "perfect for laptops and desktops" has so many endless and bullshit > problems running on laptops and desktops. I'm pretty sure the developers don't say anything is "perfect." But I do know that I've run many distributions of Linux without problems and many platforms. So I'm guessing all these supposed problems you're mining from the discontented are the exceptions, not the rule. >> Personally I don't have the time, > > But you have the time to waste shuffling Linux distros. You would too, if you could refrain from 24/7 spewing on COLA. What I can say, I enjoy learning about and using Linux. What a crime for someone who posts on -- get this -- comp.os.linux.ADVOCACY (look up that word "advocacy" sometime). Report back. > >> and my brain is not small enough to enjoy something like that. > > It's small enough to enjoy regularly lying about MS and Windows, so why > not? You mean regularly debunking the lies you spew about Linux. As for my "lies" about Windows -- is it or is it not true that Windows needs anti- virus and anti-malware software regularly updated? Come on, don't be shy, you can admit the truth. And does Windows normally need a reboot when you upgrade an application, or doesn't it? Don't be shy, we all know it does.' So much for my "lies." > >> Get a life, DuFuS. > > Get a grip, RonG. Actually, what I need is an active killfile. -- RonB Registered Linux User #498581 CentOS 5.4 or Vector Linux Deluxe 6.0

Micoshaft Appil asstroturfing fraudster with a big girlie butt pounding the sock DFS wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Appil Department of Marketing: > "I had a bunch of errors come up during the upgrade. I couldn't keep up > with notating them all. It also caused problems with my evolution mail > program. I can no longer send and receive emails when I had no problems in > the past." > > #1280 at > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic+freeze&page=128 > > > > "Ubuntu is perfect for laptops and desktops" Ubuntu tech support forums are second to none when it comes to problem solving with Linux. Unlike licking up to micoshaft as fanboi with your free time despite paying and despite having no access to the source code and choose to work in the dark for what exactly? 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