White House "piracy summit" is a fraud

:So [the Obama administration] gathers up a bunch :of the highest ranking government officials[...] :puts those politicians in a room with industry bosses :and lobbyists[...]then kicks out the press http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091215/1307497368.shtml

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ____/ JeffM on Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 05:37 : \____ > :So [the Obama administration] gathers up a bunch > :of the highest ranking government officials[...] > :puts those politicians in a room with industry bosses > :and lobbyists[...]then kicks out the press > http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091215/1307497368.shtml Biden has always been a shill for the M.A.F.I.A.A. More people need to realise this. - -- ~~ Best of wishes Roy S. Schestowitz | Open minds, open source http://Schestowitz.com | Free as in Free Beer | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E Cpu(s): 22.6%us, 5.0%sy, 0.1%ni, 70.6%id, 1.3%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.4%si, 0.0%st http://iuron.com - semantic engine to gather information -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAksowdUACgkQU4xAY3RXLo7sIACeKHlwsib6AhH+NZkthOcgOUz0 T0UAn1jYnUFNLkleP8JpuLfyWKDOZi3n =J7n0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Roy Schestowitz wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > ____/ JeffM on Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 05:37 : \____ > >> :So [the Obama administration] gathers up a bunch >> :of the highest ranking government officials[...] >> :puts those politicians in a room with industry bosses >> :and lobbyists[...]then kicks out the press >> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091215/1307497368.shtml > > Biden has always been a shill for the M.A.F.I.A.A. More people need to realise this. The whole problem is that men that usually get into positions of power aren't really too bright. They get a bunch of "advisors" to do their thinking for them - usually captains of industry. They follow the wintroll rule of usefulness on this one - if one hasn't made $billions then their opinion isn't useful. That's not to mention the backhanders the lobbyists dole out. Which all adds up to policymaking that suits industry and not society as a whole.

"Phil Da Lick!" <phil_the_lick@REMOVETHISSPAMTRAP.hotmail.com> writes: > Roy Schestowitz wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> ____/ JeffM on Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 05:37 : \____ >> >>> :So [the Obama administration] gathers up a bunch >>> :of the highest ranking government officials[...] >>> :puts those politicians in a room with industry bosses >>> :and lobbyists[...]then kicks out the press >>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091215/1307497368.shtml >> >> Biden has always been a shill for the M.A.F.I.A.A. More people need to realise this. > > The whole problem is that men that usually get into positions of power > aren't really too bright. They get a bunch of "advisors" to do their Actually, they usually are bright enough to get people to put them there. Typical COLA whining about the stupidity of others : as if it somehow indicates that their own lowly basemetn dwelling location is a sign of their genius .... > thinking for them - usually captains of industry. They follow the > wintroll rule of usefulness on this one - if one hasn't made $billions > then their opinion isn't useful. That's not to mention the backhanders Whoever said that? More lies from Phil Da Freetard. > the lobbyists dole out. Which all adds up to policymaking that suits > industry and not society as a whole. Yes, it all sounds well and good but meanwhile in the real world in a democratic nation you can change things. People will always be out for what they can get : look at Peter and Chris programming Windows for example while whining that MS are evil. Look at Roy making money from advertising Windows SW on his spam sites.

Hadron wrote: > Yes, it all sounds well and good but meanwhile in the real world in a > democratic nation you can change things. More Quirkiness. Tell that to the majority of people in the UK who wanted a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. Or the majority that want capital punishmment back. Or the majority that want MPs locked up for fiddling. Or the majority that want speed cameras abolished. Or the majority that want tougher immigration controls. etc etc etc etc. Change things my arse. Elections are very carefully fought on one or two key issues with very little to choose between the major parties. Meanwhile, the big money men just lobby [bribe] the shit out of anyone with a shot at getting into power and win regardless. Anyone who thinks their vote actually counts for anything is living in cloud cuckoo land.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ____/ Phil Da Lick! on Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 13:07 : \____ > Roy Schestowitz wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> ____/ JeffM on Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 05:37 : \____ >> >>> :So [the Obama administration] gathers up a bunch >>> :of the highest ranking government officials[...] >>> :puts those politicians in a room with industry bosses >>> :and lobbyists[...]then kicks out the press >>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091215/1307497368.shtml >> >> Biden has always been a shill for the M.A.F.I.A.A. More people need to >> realise this. > > The whole problem is that men that usually get into positions of power > aren't really too bright. They get a bunch of "advisors" to do their > thinking for them - usually captains of industry. They follow the > wintroll rule of usefulness on this one - if one hasn't made $billions > then their opinion isn't useful. That's not to mention the backhanders > the lobbyists dole out. Which all adds up to policymaking that suits > industry and not society as a whole. Rich means smart in a country where God is on the money. - -- ~~ Best of wishes Roy S. Schestowitz | < http://debian.org > http://Schestowitz.com | GNU/Linux | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E Swap: 4088500k total, 417880k used, 3670620k free, 264040k cached http://iuron.com - next generation of search paradigms -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkspoWcACgkQU4xAY3RXLo714wCgrTZHm9dx/SNNFKIZ1YLKGMnw CewAoKXp0HdW2pK+liRyONTC9RvjgIsl =uIT1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Roy Schestowitz wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > ____/ Phil Da Lick! on Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 13:07 : \____ > >> Roy Schestowitz wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> ____/ JeffM on Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 05:37 : \____ >>> >>>> :So [the Obama administration] gathers up a bunch >>>> :of the highest ranking government officials[...] >>>> :puts those politicians in a room with industry bosses >>>> :and lobbyists[...]then kicks out the press >>>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091215/1307497368.shtml >>> Biden has always been a shill for the M.A.F.I.A.A. More people need to >>> realise this. >> The whole problem is that men that usually get into positions of power >> aren't really too bright. They get a bunch of "advisors" to do their >> thinking for them - usually captains of industry. They follow the >> wintroll rule of usefulness on this one - if one hasn't made $billions >> then their opinion isn't useful. That's not to mention the backhanders >> the lobbyists dole out. Which all adds up to policymaking that suits >> industry and not society as a whole. > > Rich means smart in a country where God is on the money. The money *is* god to these people. Did you see them squirming on TV last night about the copenhagen deal? Sickening. The best bit was the program on the beeb late last night presented by Iain Stewart looking into climate change doubters. On one level it was hilarious. It was also noticeable that virtually every one of the "doubters" was loaded.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ____/ Phil Da Lick! on Thursday 17 Dec 2009 09:14 : \____ > Roy Schestowitz wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> ____/ Phil Da Lick! on Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 13:07 : \____ >> >>> Roy Schestowitz wrote: >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> ____/ JeffM on Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 05:37 : \____ >>>> >>>>> :So [the Obama administration] gathers up a bunch >>>>> :of the highest ranking government officials[...] >>>>> :puts those politicians in a room with industry bosses >>>>> :and lobbyists[...]then kicks out the press >>>>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091215/1307497368.shtml >>>> Biden has always been a shill for the M.A.F.I.A.A. More people need to >>>> realise this. >>> The whole problem is that men that usually get into positions of power >>> aren't really too bright. They get a bunch of "advisors" to do their >>> thinking for them - usually captains of industry. They follow the >>> wintroll rule of usefulness on this one - if one hasn't made $billions >>> then their opinion isn't useful. That's not to mention the backhanders >>> the lobbyists dole out. Which all adds up to policymaking that suits >>> industry and not society as a whole. >> >> Rich means smart in a country where God is on the money. > > > The money *is* god to these people. Did you see them squirming on TV > last night about the copenhagen deal? Sickening. The best bit was the > program on the beeb late last night presented by Iain Stewart looking > into climate change doubters. On one level it was hilarious. It was also > noticeable that virtually every one of the "doubters" was loaded. Convenient truth of cash piles. They probably paid for the protesters against Copenhagen too (like the insurance companies versus healthcare reform). - -- ~~ Best of wishes E Pluribus UNIX http://Schestowitz.com | GNU is Not UNIX | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E roy pts/0 :0 Thu Dec 10 21:21 still logged in http://iuron.com - proposing a non-profit search engine -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAksp/yYACgkQU4xAY3RXLo7RMwCfZ5PG1+o/aGjoLhDkaM1Pda2C I3YAniylw0/h0nPTtJUjcJvoWqD052ku =Xrj4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Phil Da Lick! pulled this Usenet boner: > The money *is* god to these people. Did you see them squirming on TV > last night about the copenhagen deal? Sickening. The best bit was the > program on the beeb late last night presented by Iain Stewart looking > into climate change doubters. On one level it was hilarious. It was also > noticeable that virtually every one of the "doubters" was loaded. With money or alcohol? -- The human race is a race of cowards; and I am not only marching in that procession but carrying a banner. -- Mark Twain

Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Phil Da Lick! pulled this Usenet boner: > >> The money *is* god to these people. Did you see them squirming on TV >> last night about the copenhagen deal? Sickening. The best bit was the >> program on the beeb late last night presented by Iain Stewart looking >> into climate change doubters. On one level it was hilarious. It was also >> noticeable that virtually every one of the "doubters" was loaded. > > With money or alcohol? Lol. Both, most of em.

On 2009-12-17, Phil Da Lick! <phil_the_lick@REMOVETHISSPAMTRAP.hotmail.com> claimed: > The money *is* god to these people. Did you see them squirming on TV > last night about the copenhagen deal? Sickening. The best bit was the > program on the beeb late last night presented by Iain Stewart looking > into climate change doubters. On one level it was hilarious. It was also > noticeable that virtually every one of the "doubters" was loaded. I'm a doubter (or, as Algore calls me, a dinaher). I'm not loaded. In either sense of the word. It's easy to select characteristics of the people used to present a certain stereotype. It's also easy to take the interviews/discussions and cut out whatever doesn't fit the pattern the broadcast is trying to create. I'm not claiming they did that. But if they didn't they're probably the first in broadcast history. -- All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff. -- Frank Zappa

Sinister Midget wrote: > On 2009-12-17, Phil Da Lick! <phil_the_lick@REMOVETHISSPAMTRAP.hotmail.com> claimed: > >> The money *is* god to these people. Did you see them squirming on TV >> last night about the copenhagen deal? Sickening. The best bit was the >> program on the beeb late last night presented by Iain Stewart looking >> into climate change doubters. On one level it was hilarious. It was also >> noticeable that virtually every one of the "doubters" was loaded. > > I'm a doubter (or, as Algore calls me, a dinaher). Me too. Although I do accept two facts as concrete: 1 - the world *is* getting hotter and 2 - it *is* down to carbon dioxide. You only have to look at photos of glaciers and icecaps for the last 50 years to prove point 1 and the graphs comparing carbon atmospheric content and temperature climb fit like a jigsaw to prove point 2. However, whether its "all down to industry" is where I have my problem with it. I remember about 25 years ago sitting in a class in middle school and being taught about the wonderful oxygen cycle (animals breathe in oxygen, breathe out carbon dioxide, plants breathe in carbon dioxide and breathe out oxygen - net effect: animals produce carbon, plants absorb it and take it into the ground when they die). I remember my teacher banging on about how it's wonderfully in balance and that's what makes life possible. I remember thinking *then* that that was a load - it couldn't possibly be in balance. Reason? Simple - the human population has gone from a few hundred million to just under 7 billion in less than 3 centuries. That's almost a 20 fold increase. Our livestock animals have also had a massive population explosion. Other animal life seems about the same. In order for the oxygen cycle to still be in balance there would have had to be a comparable increase in the plant population. If anything thanks to deforestation in the last few hundred years the plant population has gone down. Net effect? More carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Fact is we could take industrial emissions down to zero and it wouldn't stop this trend. If a snot nosed 12 year old version of me could figure that out you can bet your arse that those really in charge can join the dots. So what gives? Cast your mind back about 6 years. The big news in the UK was the pensions black hole and Gordon Brown (then chancellor) was trying to come up with new taxes to plug the gap. You can just imagine it can't you - some aide running in telling him to switch Sky News on quick. And lo and behold there they were - the climate protestors demanding new green taxes. El Gordo must have jizzed his pants right then and there. Fact is the only way to get the carbon content of the atmosphere down is to start landfilling carbon. I know it, they know it. They're just too busy clobbering the crap out of Joe Average with their new green taxes. As usual. > It's easy to select characteristics of the people used to present a > certain stereotype. It's also easy to take the interviews/discussions > and cut out whatever doesn't fit the pattern the broadcast is trying to > create. Indeed, the bandwagon is gaining steam all the time. > I'm not claiming they did that. But if they didn't they're probably the > first in broadcast history.