http://gadgetsteria.com/2010/11/17/windows-phone-7-another-flop-amazon-
puts-samsung-focus-on-fire-sale-wp7/

"Phones that are selling well aren�t chopped from $300 down to $50 two 
weeks after they�re released. Similarly, the same price chop happened 
with the Kin. And we all know how that turned out."

Yep, it's already being discounted. Although the chances that it will 
be pulled off the market are slim since this time it's not Microsoft 
itself which is selling the phones, but Samsung / LG / HTC etc. They 
will take the hit when the phones can't be sold. The Kin phones were 
Microsoft branded OEM devices for which the company took a direct hit 
when they devices failed to sell and had to be destroyed.

I simply can't believe that phone makers are even willing to sell WP7 
phones at all. Unless they can be reloaded with Android the customers 
will be saddled up with a useless device and the manufacturer with 
worthless inventory. Luckily most manufacturers didn't spend a lot of 
money developing the WP7 phones since they use the same hardware 
platforms as the Android phones, with slightly different packaging. 
Still, it's a waste of time and effort on their part. I guess they were 
bribed and at the same time threatened by M$ if they didn't sell these 
phones.

Dave U. Random <anonymous@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> writes:

> http://gadgetsteria.com/2010/11/17/windows-phone-7-another-flop-amazon-
> puts-samsung-focus-on-fire-sale-wp7/
>
> "Phones that are selling well aren’t chopped from $300 down to $50 two 
> weeks after they’re released. Similarly, the same price chop happened 
> with the Kin. And we all know how that turned out."
>
> Yep, it's already being discounted. Although the chances that it will 
> be pulled off the market are slim since this time it's not Microsoft 
> itself which is selling the phones, but Samsung / LG / HTC etc. They 
> will take the hit when the phones can't be sold. The Kin phones were 
> Microsoft branded OEM devices for which the company took a direct hit 
> when they devices failed to sell and had to be destroyed.
>
> I simply can't believe that phone makers are even willing to sell WP7 
> phones at all. Unless they can be reloaded with Android the customers 
> will be saddled up with a useless device and the manufacturer with 

Which Android version were you thinking of?

In article <9e0c24ed8bf5eab368d8d39f7c3294ad@anonymitaet-
im-inter.net>, anonymous@anonymitaet-im-inter.net says...
>
>http://gadgetsteria.com/2010/11/17/windows-phone-7-another-flop-amazon-
>puts-samsung-focus-on-fire-sale-wp7/
>
>"Phones that are selling well aren?t chopped from $300 down to $50 two 
>weeks after they?re released. Similarly, the same price chop happened 
>with the Kin. And we all know how that turned out."
>
>Yep, it's already being discounted. Although the chances that it will 
>be pulled off the market are slim since this time it's not Microsoft 
>itself which is selling the phones, but Samsung / LG / HTC etc. They 
>will take the hit when the phones can't be sold. The Kin phones were 
>Microsoft branded OEM devices for which the company took a direct hit 
>when they devices failed to sell and had to be destroyed.
>

Yea. Sometimes it happens even before the phone is 
released.
Verizon for example was taking orders for the latest 
Android phones at least a month before they were to be 
released.
The discounts were huge and they were eligible for "new 
every two" promotions as well.

I don't know if the WP7 is selling or not, but I think we 
have to look 6 months down the road to really determine the 
impact.
That's if it's still around after then :)

On 2010-11-30, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:

> Which Android version were you thinking of?

One point six. Obviously.

-- 
I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna really
really really wanna zigazig ha.
	~ The Spice Girls

Dave U.  Random wrote:

> http://gadgetsteria.com/2010/11/17/windows-phone-7-another-flop-amazon-
> puts-samsung-focus-on-fire-sale-wp7/
> 
> "Phones that are selling well aren�t chopped from $300 down to $50 two
> weeks after they�re released. Similarly, the same price chop happened
> with the Kin. And we all know how that turned out."
> 
> Yep, it's already being discounted. Although the chances that it will
> be pulled off the market are slim since this time it's not Microsoft
> itself which is selling the phones, but Samsung / LG / HTC etc. They
> will take the hit when the phones can't be sold. The Kin phones were
> Microsoft branded OEM devices for which the company took a direct hit
> when they devices failed to sell and had to be destroyed.
> 
> I simply can't believe that phone makers are even willing to sell WP7
> phones at all. Unless they can be reloaded with Android the customers
> will be saddled up with a useless device and the manufacturer with
> worthless inventory. Luckily most manufacturers didn't spend a lot of
> money developing the WP7 phones since they use the same hardware
> platforms as the Android phones, with slightly different packaging.
> Still, it's a waste of time and effort on their part. I guess they were
> bribed and at the same time threatened by M$ if they didn't sell these
> phones.


Missing: Copy & paste, multitasking, encryption (fatal in mobile 
applications imo), flash support, html5 (really?) no vid support in browser 
(sheesh, forget about youTube).

This a total flop. Not including the basic stuff was a sure way of failing 
especially with the competition MS is trying to compete with. 

-- 
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http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml

On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:31:55 +0000, Terry Porter wrote:

> Missing: Copy & paste, multitasking, encryption (fatal in mobile
> applications imo), flash support, html5 (really?) no vid support in
> browser (sheesh, forget about youTube).
> 
> This a total flop. Not including the basic stuff was a sure way of
> failing especially with the competition MS is trying to compete with.

How long have they been working on this OS? -- and it still comes out as 
beta. Has Microsoft gotten rid of all their development people?

-- 
RonB
Registered Linux User #498581 
CentOS 5.5 or VectorLinux Deluxe 6.0

RonB pulled this Usenet face plant:

> On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:31:55 +0000, Terry Porter wrote:
>
>> Missing: Copy & paste, multitasking, encryption (fatal in mobile
>> applications imo), flash support, html5 (really?) no vid support in
>> browser (sheesh, forget about youTube).
>> 
>> This a total flop. Not including the basic stuff was a sure way of
>> failing especially with the competition MS is trying to compete with.
>
> How long have they been working on this OS? -- and it still comes out as 
> beta. Has Microsoft gotten rid of all their development people?

If what Terry says is true about the missing features, the thing isn't even
a beta ... it is Windows Crippled Edition all over again.

Kind of makes you wonder.  Maybe the "Win 7" in phone is actually "Win CE".
Errr, I mean, "Win Mobile".  That might explain the lack of multitasking and
flash support, at least.

-- 
Even a man who is pure at heart,
And says his prayers at night
Can become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms,
And the moon is full and bright.
		-- The Wolf Man, 1941

Terry Porter wrote:

>Missing: Copy & paste, multitasking, encryption (fatal in mobile 
>applications imo), flash support, html5 (really?) no vid support in browser 
>(sheesh, forget about youTube).
>
>This a total flop. Not including the basic stuff was a sure way of failing 
>especially with the competition MS is trying to compete with. 

I wonder if "true Linux advocate" Hadron Quark will attack it, like he
has Android.

-- 
"the amount of major Android releases in the past 2 years suggests
something wasn't done properly"  -  "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark

Under the hood, WP7 is a fail. The bloat camp still wins at Microsoft. The CPU and memory requirements just proves it. There's no room for increased functionality because WP7 is already hitting hardware limits. Two things Microsoft is good at: 1. forcing manufacturers into flogging their crap, and 2. increasing their bloat slowly - trying to pull the wool over people's eyes with their billions $ sales campaigns. WP7 has already failed. Like a race horse that tripped and fell out of the gate, they will never even come close to the pack of horses ahead of them. WP7 will be pulled like the Kin.