You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and running
it idiots all you like but the fact remains that these very same
people are able to install Windows and use all the programs they need.
The fault is with Linux, not with the users.

I have a RAID system installed under Windows XP, all kinds of Video
programs like Vegas Video and Pinnacle amongst others and they were
all trivial to install and set up.
So why IS linux so cryptic and difficult to install and configure?
Why?
Why?
Why?

You can call us all morons all you like but the fact remains that we
are able to configure an operating system fine and most important of
all we are able to run high quality applications to do our work.
Linux offers all kinds of promises, but in reality it offers no
substance.
Applications that are still in beta level are common with Linux.
Applications with no help system are also very common with Linux.
Tell me why does a pile of junk application like pan, that has been in
existance fro years, still have no online help?
Can't one of you leaches write a help system?
That's what Linux is all about.
People leaching half completed programs.
Linux sucks and until it becomes commercial it will always suck.

Nate McSorley wrote:

< snip >

Idiot
-- 
I just found out that the brain is like a computer.
If that's true, then there really aren't any stupid people.
Just people running Windows.

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:12:56 -0800, Nate McSorley wrote:

> X-Complaints-To:            groups-abuse@google.com

Another google troll that knows nothing about Linux.

begin  <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>,
	sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com (Nate McSorley) writes:

ishtar1913@yahoo.com             194.130.120.114
peter_colon_man@yahoo.com        194.130.120.114
sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com 194.130.120.114

Roy Culley wrote:

> begin  <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>,
> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com (Nate McSorley) writes:
> 
> ishtar1913@yahoo.com             194.130.120.114
> peter_colon_man@yahoo.com        194.130.120.114
> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com 194.130.120.114

I wonder what P&O European Ferries will tell him when they find that he
posted under my name and signed with my name
-- 
Microsoft? Is that some kind of a toilet paper?
�

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:12:56 -0800, Nate McSorley wrote:

> You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and running it
> idiots all you like but the fact remains that these very same people are
> able to install Windows and use all the programs they need. The fault is
> with Linux, not with the users.

Really? I doubt it very much.

> 
> I have a RAID system installed under Windows XP, all kinds of Video
> programs like Vegas Video and Pinnacle amongst others and they were all
> trivial to install and set up.
> So why IS linux so cryptic and difficult to install and configure? Why?

It's not.

> Why?

It's not.
> Why?


It's not.
> 
> You can call us all morons all you like but the fact remains that we are
> able to configure an operating system fine and most important of all we
> are able to run high quality applications to do our work. Linux offers all
> kinds of promises, but in reality it offers no substance.
> Applications that are still in beta level are common with Linux.

Applications that are in beta are common in all environments. Or are you
saying that you can't understand that Linux version numbering is not the
same as window$ app version numbering?

> Applications with no help system are also very common with Linux.

Applications with man pages and help systems are very common in Linux.

> Tell me why does a pile of junk application like pan, 

Your premise is incorrect.

>that has been in existance fro years, still have no online help?

May because the developers think the online help system is less important
that developing the program.


> Can't one of you leaches write a help system? 

It obviously isn't a priority for anyone.

> That's what Linux is all about.
> People leaching half completed programs.

You're a liar.

> Linux sucks and until it becomes commercial it will always suck.

You're stupid too.

-- 
Rick

begin  <bqe2il$p68$02$1@news.t-online.com>,
	Peter =?ISO-8859-15?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <Peter.Koehlmann@t-online.de> writes:
> Roy Culley wrote:
> 
>> begin  <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>,
>> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com (Nate McSorley) writes:
>> 
>> ishtar1913@yahoo.com             194.130.120.114
>> peter_colon_man@yahoo.com        194.130.120.114
>> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com 194.130.120.114
> 
> I wonder what P&O European Ferries will tell him when they find that
> he posted under my name and signed with my name

Keep us informed if you hear anything from them. Certainly P&O have a
high public reputation to keep. If this person is an employee they
should indeed be worried.

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:12:56 -0800, Nate McSorley wrote:

> You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and running
> it idiots all you like but the fact remains that these very same
> people are able to install Windows and use all the programs they need.
> The fault is with Linux, not with the users.

NO! People are not idiots if they fail at installing and configing Linux,
they are only idiots if they turn and run at the first failure.

> 
> I have a RAID system installed under Windows XP, all kinds of Video
> programs like Vegas Video and Pinnacle amongst others and they were
> all trivial to install and set up.
> So why IS linux so cryptic and difficult to install and configure?
> Why?
> Why?
> Why?

Look Mr. Angry, what is your problem, if you have failed at installing
linux, and I have in my time, then try again.  It realy is not a problem,
you must have patience.

You have a RAID system do you, would that be IDE
RAID by any chance, because as far as I know, no SCSI RAID works with XP
(I might be wrong there) and SCSI RAID is the only RAID worth bothering
with.


> You can call us all morons all you like but the fact remains that we
> are able to configure an operating system fine and most important of
> all we are able to run high quality applications to do our work.
> Linux offers all kinds of promises, but in reality it offers no
> substance.
> Applications that are still in beta level are common with Linux.
> Applications with no help system are also very common with Linux.
> Tell me why does a pile of junk application like pan, that has been in
> existance fro years, still have no online help?
> Can't one of you leaches write a help system?
> That's what Linux is all about.
> People leaching half completed programs.
> Linux sucks and until it becomes commercial it will always suck.

Any moron can install XP. I would like to know if you can install and
configure Windows 2003 server, and support it. I can,
its a piece of piss, but I reckon it would be beyond your capability.
I can also install and configure a Linux based server, and support it.

If you want to learn anything at all about computers, you really need to
tinker with them, and play about with everthing thats on offer.  And if
you trash your machine, then so be it, at least you have learned from that
experience, and you start again. Don't just run away from the problem, and
start lashing out at people, because of your own insecurities and
inabilities.

Well, thank you for your troll, I only answered you so that any newbies
coming here can see what a prune you are, and that your FUD could be
easily be answered. And you are no doubt about to recieve numerous other
responses in the same style as mine.

OH, and your crossposts have been removed, as I don't want your idiot
friends from aow-xp coming here, thank you very much.

Goodbye, and *PLONK*

-- 
Mark

Registered Linux User #329755 -  http://counter.li.org

If you must email me then address to :

uk.co.demon.mwgary.nospam@mark (just reverse it and remove nospam)

Roy Culley wrote:

> begin  <bqe2il$p68$02$1@news.t-online.com>,
> Peter =?ISO-8859-15?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <Peter.Koehlmann@t-online.de> writes:
>> Roy Culley wrote:
>> 
>>> begin  <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>,
>>> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com (Nate McSorley) writes:
>>> 
>>> ishtar1913@yahoo.com             194.130.120.114
>>> peter_colon_man@yahoo.com        194.130.120.114
>>> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com 194.130.120.114
>> 
>> I wonder what P&O European Ferries will tell him when they find that
>> he posted under my name and signed with my name
> 
> Keep us informed if you hear anything from them. Certainly P&O have a
> high public reputation to keep. If this person is an employee they
> should indeed be worried.

Well, their IP range is not too big. I don't expect that they actually are
also a regular ISP with that small range. It quite certainly is only for
internal use. Since their abuse is already notified, they should have no
problems in tracking down who had that IP number and kick him to the
street. If I won't hear from them in a few days time, a fax will be sent.
That should then rouse their attention. I will not quietly accept when
someone abuses my name

-- 
Howe's Law:    Everyone has a scheme that will not work.
�

Roy Culley blubbered effusively on Mon, 01 Dec 2003 at 00:26 GMT:

> begin  <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>,
> 	sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com (Nate McSorley) writes:
> 
> ishtar1913@yahoo.com             194.130.120.114
> peter_colon_man@yahoo.com        194.130.120.114
> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com 194.130.120.114

-----------------------
[me$ whois 194.130.120.114
% This is the RIPE Whois server.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% Rights restricted by copyright.
% See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html

inetnum:      194.130.120.0 - 194.130.123.255
netname:      EFO1
descr:        P&O European Ferries
country:      GB
-----------------------

I think "fairies" is spelled wrong.

-- 
Windows: So easy to admin, even a worm can do it.

Mark Gary wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:12:56 -0800, Nate McSorley wrote:
> 
> 
>>You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and running
>>it idiots all you like but the fact remains that these very same
>>people are able to install Windows and use all the programs they need.
>>The fault is
> Any moron can install XP. I would like to know if you can install and
> configure Windows 2003 server, and support it. I can,
> its a piece of piss, but I reckon it would be beyond your capability.
>

Here's an anti troll argument.

Troll argument: Linux is hard to install

Answer: Then why is it that 99 percent of Linux workstations and
servers were installed by their owners or friends of their owners
while 99 percent of Windos systems are "preinstalled" ?

Business being what it is -- can you imagine the added cost of
having someone sit there and load and test a WIndos installation for
every Dell, Gateway, HP or IBM machine sold?

If it was "so easy" to install Windos, why don't they just put the
CD in a bag and say, here, Mr. Consumer, go ahead and load it up!  It's
so easy!

Can you imagine the product support lines on the day after Christmas if
they did ?

Nate McSorley wrote:
>> You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and running
>> it idiots all you like

You idiots.

 but the fact remains that these very same
>> people are able to install Windows and use all the programs they
>> need.

Because unlike Linux; Windows is user friendly.

 The fault is with Linux, not with the users.

Linux makes them stupid.
>> 
<snip/edit>

>> So why IS linux so cryptic and difficult to install and configure?
>> Why?
>> Why?
>> Why?

Because it makes you repeat yourself.
>> 
>> You can call us all morons all you like

You're all morons!

 but the fact remains that we
>> are able to configure an operating system fine and most important of
>> all we are able to run high quality applications to do our work.

But instead you use Linux.

>> Linux offers all kinds of promises,

Such as it's guaranteed not to work first time after install.

 but in reality it offers no
>> substance.
>> Applications that are still in beta level are common with Linux.
>> Applications with no help system are also very common with Linux.
>> Tell me why does a pile of junk application like pan, that has been
>> in existance fro years, still have no online help?
>> Can't one of you leaches write a help system?
>> That's what Linux is all about.
>> People leaching half completed programs.
>> Linux sucks and until it becomes commercial it will always suck.

Linux will always suck; end of story.

Linux makes you stupid.

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more information + XP help - more
to browse.
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sites.

Nate McSorley wrote:
>> You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and running
>> it idiots all you like

I prefer to call them, in addition to retards, fuckheads, and brain-dead
morons, Linuxfags.

-- 
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more information + XP help - more
to browse.
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sites.


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"Peter K�hlmann" <Peter.Koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:bqe1i0$78s$07$1@news.t-online.com...
> Nate McSorley wrote:
>
> < snip >
>
> Idiot
> -- 
> I just found out that the brain is like a computer.
> If that's true, then there really aren't any stupid people.
> Just people running Windows.

I`am not sure about the brain is like a computer idea ! But I always believe
nature always side`s with the hidden flaw/ maybe that why You use
Linux and not Windows !

All Hail Emperor Bill Gates...

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 01:58:57 +0000, Dr Halonfire$ (L'Girl) wrote:

> 
> You idiots.
> 

> Because unlike Linux; Windows is user friendly.
> 
>  The fault is with Linux, not with the users.
> 
> Linux makes them stupid.


> 
> Because it makes you repeat yourself.


> You're all morons!
> 



> But instead you use Linux.
> 


> 
> Such as it's guaranteed not to work first time after install.
> 
>  but in reality it offers no



> 
> Linux will always suck; end of story.
> 
> Linux makes you stupid.


Pathetic fat ass Windows looser.

I'll bet your wife actually dreads the thought of having to have sex with
you further.

She's probably out looking for an Asian Boyfriend from India as that's
where all the money is in Widnows anymore.

So, in your opinion linux sucks then and your here to tell us all about it.
Well, why don't you take a razar and rip your pee-pee off whilst on the
pot sometime and just bleed to death you brainless poophead.

Society has replaced the Windows worker with asians.

That's kind of like sending monkey's into space.

You've been replace by somebody who doesn't know who to use toilet paper
and is probably fucking your wife right now.

If I were you, I'd gain some self respect and try using Linux a little
more.  If nothing more, they can at least put on your tombstone that you
weren't a complete dumbshit.


Thanks for your time and hope that helps.

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
Fearing a spontaneous XP reboot, Roy Culley mumbled this incantation:

> begin  <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>,
> 	sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com (Nate McSorley) writes:
>
> ishtar1913@yahoo.com             194.130.120.114
> peter_colon_man@yahoo.com        194.130.120.114
> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com 194.130.120.114

Thanks for the additions to my trolls.txt file.

-- 
No, I won't fix your Windows computer!

Fearing a spontaneous XP reboot, Peter K�hlmann mumbled this incantation:

> Well, their IP range is not too big. I don't expect that they actually are
> also a regular ISP with that small range. It quite certainly is only for
> internal use. Since their abuse is already notified, they should have no
> problems in tracking down who had that IP number and kick him to the
> street. If I won't hear from them in a few days time, a fax will be sent.
> That should then rouse their attention. I will not quietly accept when
> someone abuses my name

I think he also abused Poopy Pants Magee's name.

-- 
No, I won't fix your Windows computer!

Idiot

-- 
sqr
--
ftp://sqr.myftp.biz



"Roy Culley" <rgc@swissonline.ch> wrote in message
news:jeeq91-eem.ln1@gentoo.linux.src...

In article <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>, 
sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com says...

> Linux sucks and until it becomes commercial it will always suck.
> 
The majority of the internet servers run on Nix.

-- 
Conor

Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him.

Nate McSorley wrote:

> You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and running
> it idiots all you like but the fact remains that these very same
> people are able to install Windows and use all the programs they need.
> The fault is with Linux, not with the users.

And other people are able to install Linux and use all the programs they
need, which they are not able to do with Windows. In these cases the fault
is with Windows, not with the user.

Olav

"Nate McSorley" <sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com...
> You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and running
> it idiots all you like but the fact remains that these very same
> people are able to install Windows and use all the programs they need.
> The fault is with Linux, not with the users.
>
> I have a RAID system installed under Windows XP, all kinds of Video
> programs like Vegas Video and Pinnacle amongst others and they were
> all trivial to install and set up.
> So why IS linux so cryptic and difficult to install and configure?
> Why?
> Why?
> Why?
>

Sound's a bit irritated.  Yeah, it's kind of funny, when you read something,
in what's supposed to be your own native language, and don't have a clue
about what you just read - like most technical stuff, once you know what
they mean, you'll know what they're saying.  Linux/Unix/BSD have a different
set of terms and functions that have been derived by literally thousands of
programmers over a thirty year period of time.  The result is a modest lack
of coherence from an operator's point of view - and it can be frustrating,
but it was Unix that created the Internet, it is Unix that is responsible
for the several thousands of RFCs (Request For Comments - the standards that
make/permit any networking to work at all) that make those wonderful
applications work.

> You can call us all morons all you like but the fact remains that we
> are able to configure an operating system fine and most important of
> all we are able to run high quality applications to do our work.
> Linux offers all kinds of promises, but in reality it offers no
> substance.
> Applications that are still in beta level are common with Linux.
> Applications with no help system are also very common with Linux.

Yep, such is the case with many applications.  The operative Keyword is:
applications, many are unstable.  In fact at one time that term, unstable,
described TCP/IP.  A TCP/IP that windows had no idea about.  As it was being
created as a Unix application - unstable at first - but ultimately, just
simply, marvelous. The platform is well defined, and stable.  The OS rarely
crashes, and that's the measure of it's stability.  It's OS calls are well
defined, and clearly documented.  It handels interrupts reliably.  It has a
well defined, coherent, software I/O structure that permits you to easily
write drivers for both easy, and difficult devices.  And nothing is hidden.
If you need andanswer, I mean really need an answer, then you can find it in
Linux.  It has an extensible kernel with provisions for user created modules
to extend the OS's functional capacity.


> Tell me why does a pile of junk application like pan, that has been in
> existance fro years, still have no online help?

You can always find something that may have been done better.  Who hasn't
installed a modem in a Windows machine and had the com port, either not show
up at all, or have Windows tell you that it was installing the modem on the
com port where the mouse was connected?  And further, if you can believe it,
it did it with no provision for you to impact that assignment, other than to
continually install, and remove the physical devices, and the devices
drivers, until you got something that kind of worked - a 15 minuet operation
that took 6 hours?

> Can't one of you leaches write a help system?
> That's what Linux is all about.
> People leaching half completed programs.
> Linux sucks and until it becomes commercial it will always suck.

Unix/Linux was "commercial" when Bill was in short pants - literally.
Linux/Unix isn't a panacea, there is a lack of utility option coherence -
that goes with 30 years of development  by thousands of programmers - but it
beats by miles being treated like a mushroom.  Answers are obtainable, it is
multi-platformed, it is sophisticated, it is powerful, it is extensible, and
that is why MS is obsessed with it - as it is more than just a pretty GUI
riding on DOS.  That scares MS and the assets cause developers to love it
over MS's products, hands down.  Yeah, it can take a bit of effort to come
up to speed; sorry you had such a bad time, but, at some point,  I hope
you'll put the frustration aside, as it's never going away.

Dr Halonfire$ (L'Girl) <deathtospammers@msn.com> wrote:
>> Dr Halonfire$ (L'Girl) wrote:
>>>> Nate McSorley wrote:
>>>>>> You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and
>>>>>> running it idiots all you like
>>>>
>>>> I prefer to call them, in addition to retards, fuckheads, and
>>>> brain-dead morons, Linuxfags.
>>>>
>> Speaking of which  have a ganders at the Linux Balloons in the pic.

There are of course smaller sizes for the likes of the stumpy cunt,
aren't there?

-- 
Some Big Cunt

Sinister Midget <sm@sletom002.com> wrote:

>> I take it up the arse...

Well, we fucking knew that, Stumpy.

-- 
Some Big Cunt

On 30 Nov 2003 16:12:56 -0800,  sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com (Nate McSorley) wrote:

> You 

.... plonk!
..
-- 
///    Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver,    \\\ 
\\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
Conversation, n.: A vocal competition in which the one who is 
catching his breath is called the listener.

On 30 Nov 2003 16:12:56 -0800, sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com (Nate
McSorley) wrote:

>You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and running

*plonk*

Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1a34df8fd48ee1549898e8@news.claranews.com>...
> In article <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>, 
> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com says...
> 
> > Linux sucks and until it becomes commercial it will always suck.
> > 
> The majority of the internet servers run on Nix.

The majority of windows users don't know how to spell "server"

opus wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 01:58:57 +0000, Dr Halonfire$ (L'Girl) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You idiots.
>>>
>>
>>> Because unlike Linux; Windows is user friendly.
>>>
>>>  The fault is with Linux, not with the users.
>>>
>>> Linux makes them stupid.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Because it makes you repeat yourself.
>>
>>
>>> You're all morons!
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> But instead you use Linux.
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Such as it's guaranteed not to work first time after install.
>>>
>>>  but in reality it offers no
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Linux will always suck; end of story.
>>>
>>> Linux makes you stupid.
>>
>>
>> Pathetic fat ass Windows looser.
>>
>> I'll bet your wife actually dreads the thought of having to have sex
>> with you further.

We haven't got as far as lesbian marriages in UK yet.- But here's hoping.
>>
>> She's probably out looking for an Asian Boyfriend from India as
>> that's where all the money is in Widnows anymore.
>>
Girls I go with prefer white girls to chipati om-popa-ding-ding men.

>> So, in your opinion linux sucks then and your here to tell us all
>> about it.

Not just in my opinion.

 Well, why don't you take a razar and rip your pee-pee off

That would be very difficult.

>> whilst on the pot sometime and just bleed to death you brainless
>> poophead.

Why do Linuxfucks always carry mirrors and start talking to their reflection
in the middle of a conversation?
>>
>> Society has replaced the Windows worker with asians.
>>
>> That's kind of like sending monkey's into space.
>>
>> You've been replace by somebody who doesn't know who to use toilet
>> paper and is probably fucking your wife right now.
>>
You should be replaced with an amoeba; they're more intelligent.

>> If I were you, I'd gain some self respect and try using Linux

If you were me then I'd end up a self-defeating bumbling fool.

 a
>> little more.  If nothing more, they can at least put on your
>> tombstone that you weren't a complete dumbshit.
>>
On the other hand you can never have that privelidge.
>>
>> Thanks for your time and hope that helps.

Not at all; you're welcome.

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More images; more pages; more music;
more information + XP help - more
to browse.
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sites.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
>> Dr Halonfire$ (L'Girl) <deathtospammers@msn.com> wrote:
>>>> Dr Halonfire$ (L'Girl) wrote:
>>>>>> Nate McSorley wrote:
>>>>>>>> You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and
>>>>>>>> running it idiots all you like
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I prefer to call them, in addition to retards, fuckheads, and
>>>>>> brain-dead morons, Linuxfags.
>>>>>>
>>>> Speaking of which  have a ganders at the Linux Balloons in the pic.
>>
>> There are of course smaller sizes for the likes of the stumpy cunt,
>> aren't there?
>>
>> --
>> Some Big Cunt

Yeh they got Stumpy ballons which are quite armless! (Someone is now going
to make a comment on K Man balloons which are quite dic-----. : That pissed
on someone's fireworks!)
-- 
My main website is at
http://tinyurl.com/t7tg
More images; more pages; more music;
more information + XP help - more
to browse.
 There's 13.4 Mb of data onsite with
links to many more megabytes on other
sites.


WEBSITE TEMPORARILY @
http://tinyurl.com/t7tg

Nate McSorley wrote:

> You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and running
> it idiots all you like but the fact remains that these very same
> people are able to install Windows and use all the programs they need.
> The fault is with Linux, not with the users.

If linux doesn't work then how did this message ever get posted - you used 
google who run exclusively on LINUX.

Next time engage brain before accessing keyboard.

-- 
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Freeride wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:12:56 -0800, Nate McSorley wrote:
> 
>> X-Complaints-To:            groups-abuse@google.com
> 
> Another google troll that knows nothing about Linux.

That's Irony for you - a moron posting bullshit about linux not working who 
is using a linux server to post the message and is too stupid to realise.

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Nigel Feltham - spanking trolls since 1999

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 01:03:46 +0000, John Bailo wrote:

[snip]


> Here's an anti troll argument.
> 
> Troll argument: Linux is hard to install
> 
> Answer: Then why is it that 99 percent of Linux workstations and servers
> were installed by their owners or friends of their owners while 99
> percent of Windos systems are "preinstalled" ?
> 
> Business being what it is -- can you imagine the added cost of having
> someone sit there and load and test a WIndos installation for every
> Dell, Gateway, HP or IBM machine sold?
> 
> If it was "so easy" to install Windos, why don't they just put the CD in
> a bag and say, here, Mr. Consumer, go ahead and load it up!  It's so
> easy!
> 
> Can you imagine the product support lines on the day after Christmas if
> they did ?

Damn, I wish I had thought of that one :) I'll use it next time.

It's perfectly true, and it's also why they have to call out so called
"experts" to reinstall for them when they trash there machines, because
they are unable to recover it themselves.

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Peter K�hlmann wrote:
> Well, their IP range is not too big. I don't expect that they actually
> are also a regular ISP with that small range. It quite certainly is only
> for internal use. Since their abuse is already notified, they should
> have no problems in tracking down who had that IP number and kick him to
> the street. If I won't hear from them in a few days time, a fax will be
> sent. That should then rouse their attention. I will not quietly accept
> when someone abuses my name

194.130.120.114 is an open proxy. Ask / demand of them to secure their
network.

-- 
Tony Sivori

In article <bqe2il$p68$02$1@news.t-online.com> 
Peter K�hlmann <Peter.Koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

>Roy Culley wrote:
>
>> begin  <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>,
>> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com (Nate McSorley) writes:
>> 
>> ishtar1913@yahoo.com             194.130.120.114
>> peter_colon_man@yahoo.com        194.130.120.114
>> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com 194.130.120.114
>
>I wonder what P&O European Ferries will tell him when they find that he
>posted under my name and signed with my name

Idiot.

In article <bqe3nn$p68$02$4@news.t-online.com> 
Peter K�hlmann <Peter.Koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

>Roy Culley wrote:
>
>> begin  <bqe2il$p68$02$1@news.t-online.com>,
>> Peter =?ISO-8859-15?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <Peter.Koehlmann@t-online.de> writes:
>>> Roy Culley wrote:
>>> 
>>>> begin  <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>,
>>>> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com (Nate McSorley) writes:
>>>> 
>>>> ishtar1913@yahoo.com             194.130.120.114
>>>> peter_colon_man@yahoo.com        194.130.120.114
>>>> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com 194.130.120.114
>>> 
>>> I wonder what P&O European Ferries will tell him when they find that
>>> he posted under my name and signed with my name
>> 
>> Keep us informed if you hear anything from them. Certainly P&O have a
>> high public reputation to keep. If this person is an employee they
>> should indeed be worried.
>
>Well, their IP range is not too big. I don't expect that they actually are
>also a regular ISP with that small range. It quite certainly is only for
>internal use. Since their abuse is already notified, they should have no
>problems in tracking down who had that IP number and kick him to the
>street. If I won't hear from them in a few days time, a fax will be sent.
>That should then rouse their attention. I will not quietly accept when
>someone abuses my name

Idiot.

In article <bqe1i0$78s$07$1@news.t-online.com> 
Peter K�hlmann <Peter.Koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

>Nate McSorley wrote:
>
>< snip >
>
>Idiot

Idiot.

In article <3dd5593c.0312010709.5c691bf9@posting.google.com> 
d2003xx@hotmail.com (d2003xx) wrote:

>Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1a34df8fd48ee1549898e8@news.claranews.com>...
>> In article <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>, 
>> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com says...
>> 
>> > Linux sucks and until it becomes commercial it will always suck.
>> > 
>> The majority of the internet servers run on Nix.
>
>The majority of windows users don't know how to spell "server"

The majority of Linux losers don't know how to spell.

In article <47lmsvsdeahsb5kkn504sf8fqtvgvjqcph@4ax.com> 
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>On 30 Nov 2003 16:12:56 -0800, sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com (Nate
>McSorley) wrote:
>
>>You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and running
>
>*plonk*

Idiot.

In article <bqg38e$21d4ou$1@ID-35459.news.uni-berlin.de> 
Nigel Feltham <nigel.feltham@btinternet.com> wrote:

>Nate McSorley wrote:
>
>> You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and running
>> it idiots all you like but the fact remains that these very same
>> people are able to install Windows and use all the programs they need.
>> The fault is with Linux, not with the users.
>
>If linux doesn't work then how did this message ever get posted - you used 
>google who run exclusively on LINUX.
>
>Next time engage brain before accessing keyboard.

Idiot.

Linux Sucks <linux@sucks.sucks> wrote in message news:<418osv8devoitv2e3elq0hibkbr5b82d0t@4ax.com>...
> In article <3dd5593c.0312010709.5c691bf9@posting.google.com> 
> d2003xx@hotmail.com (d2003xx) wrote:
> 
> >Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1a34df8fd48ee1549898e8@news.claranews.com>...
> >> In article <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>, 
> >> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com says...
> >> 
> >> > Linux sucks and until it becomes commercial it will always suck.
> >> > 
> >> The majority of the internet servers run on Nix.
> >
> >The majority of windows users don't know how to spell "server"
> 
> The majority of Linux losers don't know how to spell.

Don't you know how to spell?

> You can call us all morons all you like but the fact remains that we
> are able to configure an operating system fine and most important of
> all we are able to run high quality applications to do our work.

"we are able to configure an operating system fine", what you mean is you
are able to insert a cd and let the operating system configure itself. Linux
can be harder to install, but it gives you more control over what you are
doing. Installing Linux these days is a walk in the park, you used to get
asked questions that half the time you had no idea what the answer was.

As it happens I use Windows 80% of the time and linux the remainong 20%.
Rather than arguing which is best, why not just use both. Each has its own
strengths and weaknesses, I don't think you can be 100% happy with either of
them.


"Nate McSorley" <sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com...
> You can call people who try Linux and fail at installing and running
> it idiots all you like but the fact remains that these very same
> people are able to install Windows and use all the programs they need.
> The fault is with Linux, not with the users.
>
> I have a RAID system installed under Windows XP, all kinds of Video
> programs like Vegas Video and Pinnacle amongst others and they were
> all trivial to install and set up.
> So why IS linux so cryptic and difficult to install and configure?
> Why?
> Why?
> Why?
>
> You can call us all morons all you like but the fact remains that we
> are able to configure an operating system fine and most important of
> all we are able to run high quality applications to do our work.
> Linux offers all kinds of promises, but in reality it offers no
> substance.
> Applications that are still in beta level are common with Linux.
> Applications with no help system are also very common with Linux.
> Tell me why does a pile of junk application like pan, that has been in
> existance fro years, still have no online help?
> Can't one of you leaches write a help system?
> That's what Linux is all about.
> People leaching half completed programs.
> Linux sucks and until it becomes commercial it will always suck.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Conor
<conor_turton@hotmail.com>
 wrote
on Mon, 1 Dec 2003 05:18:40 -0000
<MPG.1a34df8fd48ee1549898e8@news.claranews.com>:
> In article <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>, 
> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com says...
> 
>> Linux sucks and until it becomes commercial it will always suck.
>> 
> The majority of the internet servers run on Nix.
> 

This can bite two ways.

The first way is the obvious one: more people are comfortable with
*nix running Internet-capable servers.

The second way, which is far more interesting, even if probably not
true, could construe that, since Windows XP is far more capable
than *nix, the paucity of Windows XP servers shows that Windows XP
can serve more websites than those *nix servers, or that *nix needs
more servers to serve the same number of websites as Windows XP.

Yes, it's twisted. :-)  (I specialize in corner cases.  Admittedly
I'm not sure there are a lot of x86 Windows servers out there that
can take 8, 16, or 32 FDDI inputs. :-) )

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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, d2003xx
<d2003xx@hotmail.com>
 wrote
on 3 Dec 2003 04:45:22 -0800
<3dd5593c.0312030445.591f7370@posting.google.com>:
> Linux Sucks <linux@sucks.sucks> wrote in message news:<418osv8devoitv2e3elq0hibkbr5b82d0t@4ax.com>...
>> In article <3dd5593c.0312010709.5c691bf9@posting.google.com> 
>> d2003xx@hotmail.com (d2003xx) wrote:
>> 
>> >Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1a34df8fd48ee1549898e8@news.claranews.com>...
>> >> In article <1ecae8bd.0311301612.3186b7e3@posting.google.com>, 
>> >> sweet_sugar_britches@hotmail.com says...
>> >> 
>> >> > Linux sucks and until it becomes commercial it will always suck.
>> >> > 
>> >> The majority of the internet servers run on Nix.
>> >
>> >The majority of windows users don't know how to spell "server"
>> 
>> The majority of Linux losers don't know how to spell.
> 
> Don't you know how to spell?

Yes, he knows how to spell.  A spellchecker is easily integrated
with Outlook. :-)

-- 
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It's still legal to go .sigless.

Dr Halonfire$ (L'Girl) wrote:

 > My main website is at
 > http://tinyurl.com/t7tg

I think that is the naffest, ugliest website I have ever seen in 10 
years of web-browsing.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Martin Slaney
<slazNIET_SPAM@dsl.pipex.com>
 wrote
on Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:45:14 +0000
<3FD8F37A.1070708@dsl.pipex.com>:
> Dr Halonfire$ (L'Girl) wrote:
>
> > My main website is at
> > http://tinyurl.com/t7tg
>
> I think that is the naffest, ugliest website I have ever seen in 10 
> years of web-browsing.
>

That's pretty ugly, all right:

    Sorry, this site is temporarily unavailable!

    The web site you are trying to access has exceeded
    its allocated data transfer. Visit our help area for
    more information.

:-)

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