I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.

Any help greatly appreciated.
-- 
Rick

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Rick wrote:
> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.

Why not just run Gnome? (Or neither of them) I have tried to make KDE
and Gnome and XFCE look like Windowmaker and then thought: why bother,
just run WindowMaker. :-)
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* Rick wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:
> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.

> Any help greatly appreciated.

Of course its possible buy why would you? WHy not just pick one and make
it look the way you like?
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On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:39:06 +0000, SINNER wrote:

> * Rick wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:
>> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
>> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.
> 
>> Any help greatly appreciated.
> 
> Of course its possible buy why would you? 

I like the way default Gnome looks.

> Why not just pick one and make it look the way you like?

That's my question... how do I make KDE look like Gnome?

-- 
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* Rick wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:
> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:39:06 +0000, SINNER wrote:

>> * Rick wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:
>>> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
>>> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.

>>> Any help greatly appreciated.

>> Of course its possible buy why would you? 

> I like the way default Gnome looks.

>> Why not just pick one and make it look the way you like?

> That's my question... how do I make KDE look like Gnome?

What makes Gnome look like Gnome? Use whatever icons/wallpapers you
want. Your question makes little sense. For all intents, they already
look the same. They have "start" bars, icons, desktops... It's in the apps
and icons you choose. Use the same ones.

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Rick wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:39:06 +0000, SINNER wrote:
.... how do I make KDE look like Gnome?
>

though I kinda agree with the others -- just install GNOME and use that
-- but you likely need to go;
 Kmenu | Settings | Control Center
expand the Appearance and Themes section/heading -> "Colors" and choose
'Import Theme'.

>From Control Center under that heading, you can also fiddle with Fonts,
Icons, Background, Windows Decorations, etc, etc. Also look under the
"Desktop" Heading in the Left Pane - and perhaps fiddle with only one
of the many available "desktops" as a test

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:48:36 -0800, iforone wrote:

> 
> Rick wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:39:06 +0000, SINNER wrote:
> ... how do I make KDE look like Gnome?
>>
>>
> though I kinda agree with the others -- just install GNOME and use that --
> but you likely need to go;
>  Kmenu | Settings | Control Center
> expand the Appearance and Themes section/heading -> "Colors" and choose
> 'Import Theme'.
> 
>>From Control Center under that heading, you can also fiddle with Fonts,
> Icons, Background, Windows Decorations, etc, etc. Also look under the
> "Desktop" Heading in the Left Pane - and perhaps fiddle with only one of
> the many available "desktops" as a test

I have reset the sizes of some of the icons in default views, and in title
bars. That seems to have helped. But there seems to be a fundamental
difference between Gnome icons and KDE icons. If I knew what I was doing,
I'd try to make a KDE icon theme from a Gnome theme...  But I don't, at
them moment.

-- 
Rick

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 06:09:10 +0000, SINNER wrote:

> * Rick wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:
>> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:39:06 +0000, SINNER wrote:
> 
>>> * Rick wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:
>>>> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make
>>>> KDE look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar
>>>> icons.
> 
>>>> Any help greatly appreciated.
> 
>>> Of course its possible buy why would you?
> 
>> I like the way default Gnome looks.
> 
>>> Why not just pick one and make it look the way you like?
> 
>> That's my question... how do I make KDE look like Gnome?
> 
> What makes Gnome look like Gnome? 

For what I want... icons.

> Use whatever icons/wallpapers you want.

My wall papers are all the same in WindowMaker, Gnome/WindowMaker and KDE.

> Your question makes little sense.

I want my KDE to 'look' like Gnome.

> For all intents, they already look the same. 

Apparently not.

> They have "start" bars, icons, desktops... It's in the apps and
> icons you choose. Use the same ones.

Yes, but there aren't any icon sets that look like Gnome icons that I can
find.

For the most part, I use gtk apps in KDE. I use Konqueror, but I'd like to
icons to look like Gnome's Industrial theme. I can't find the icon set.
When I find  that, I can start to try to match the title bar fonts.

So, can you point me to an actual URL to find Gnome style icons? I've
looked through KDE-look.org.

-- 
Rick

* Rick wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:
> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 06:09:10 +0000, SINNER wrote:

[...]

>> They have "start" bars, icons, desktops... It's in the apps and
>> icons you choose. Use the same ones.

> Yes, but there aren't any icon sets that look like Gnome icons that I can
> find.

What makes an Icon a Gnome icon? You want the boring icons that are
installed as default by Gnome?

> For the most part, I use gtk apps in KDE. I use Konqueror, but I'd like to
> icons to look like Gnome's Industrial theme. I can't find the icon set.
> When I find  that, I can start to try to match the title bar fonts.

> So, can you point me to an actual URL to find Gnome style icons? I've
> looked through KDE-look.org.

Icons are Icons, use the KDE icons in Gnome or Gnome icons in KDE. Is
this really that difficult? Icons are picture files made small enough to
be used as icons.

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On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 15:19:06 +0000, SINNER wrote:

> * Rick wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:
>> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 06:09:10 +0000, SINNER wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>>> They have "start" bars, icons, desktops... It's in the apps and icons
>>> you choose. Use the same ones.
> 
>> Yes, but there aren't any icon sets that look like Gnome icons that I
>> can find.
> 
> What makes an Icon a Gnome icon? You want the boring icons that are
> installed as default by Gnome?

Mot really. I want the boring Industrial icons.

> 
>> For the most part, I use gtk apps in KDE. I use Konqueror, but I'd like
>> to icons to look like Gnome's Industrial theme. I can't find the icon
>> set. When I find  that, I can start to try to match the title bar fonts.
> 
>> So, can you point me to an actual URL to find Gnome style icons? I've
>> looked through KDE-look.org.
> 
> Icons are Icons, use the KDE icons in Gnome or Gnome icons in KDE.

How?

> Is this really that difficult? 

For me, yes, which is why I asked for help

> Icons are picture files made small enough to be
> used as icons.

.... and apparently put into icon themes, which I do not know how to do.

-- 
Rick

Rick wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:48:36 -0800, iforone wrote:
>
> >
> > Rick wrote:
> >> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:39:06 +0000, SINNER wrote:
> > ... how do I make KDE look like Gnome?
> >>
> >>
> > though I kinda agree with the others -- just install GNOME and use that --
> > but you likely need to go;
> >  Kmenu | Settings | Control Center
> > expand the Appearance and Themes section/heading -> "Colors" and choose
> > 'Import Theme'.
> >
> >>From Control Center under that heading, you can also fiddle with Fonts,
> > Icons, Background, Windows Decorations, etc, etc. Also look under the
> > "Desktop" Heading in the Left Pane - and perhaps fiddle with only one of
> > the many available "desktops" as a test
>
> I have reset the sizes of some of the icons in default views, and in title
> bars. That seems to have helped. But there seems to be a fundamental
> difference between Gnome icons and KDE icons. If I knew what I was doing,
> I'd try to make a KDE icon theme from a Gnome theme...  But I don't, at
> them moment.

KDE and Gnome use entirely different graphics engines so there is only
so much you can do without re-programming, ie., creating a new theme
from scratch.

How much work you need to do will also depend on which distro you are
using and which GTK/Gnome theme you are using that you wish to "copy"
in KDE.  Look through your current selection of themes and styles
installed.

There are a number of pre-made themes available and some are geared to
helping KDE/Gnome look more alike.  If you start with a similar base in
each environment, your twiddling will be more effective and robust.

Go here and find something to suit you:
http://www.kde-look.org/
http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php
http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page=0
http://www.kde-artists.org/main/  << for the obsessed

Examples:
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28190  << yuk
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=5065  << pretty good

Search on "gnome":
http://www.kde-look.org/content/search.php?page=0&search=1&type=0&name=gnome&user=&text=&sort=0&scorefilter=0&licence=99

Be aware that not all apps will "pick up" these theme/style changes in
the same way or to the same degree.  You can turn this into a career
;-)

have fun,
prg

__/ [Rick] on Sunday 05 February 2006 04:18 \__

> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated.

It is possible, but this would require a fair amount of work, which makes one
wonder why you don't use GNOME in the first place. KDE/GNOME can be made
similar to merely anything in existence. See, for example:

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=522&slide=17

http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23535

A good starting point for you would be to browse http://gnome-look.org and
obtain some graphical sets to 'dress up' your KDE installation/settings
with.

Hope it helps,

Roy

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On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 08:01:02 -0800, prg wrote:

> 
> Rick wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:48:36 -0800, iforone wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Rick wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:39:06 +0000, SINNER wrote:
>> > ... how do I make KDE look like Gnome?
>> >>
>> >>
>> > though I kinda agree with the others -- just install GNOME and use
>> > that -- but you likely need to go;
>> >  Kmenu | Settings | Control Center
>> > expand the Appearance and Themes section/heading -> "Colors" and
>> > choose 'Import Theme'.
>> >
>> >>From Control Center under that heading, you can also fiddle with
>> >>Fonts,
>> > Icons, Background, Windows Decorations, etc, etc. Also look under the
>> > "Desktop" Heading in the Left Pane - and perhaps fiddle with only one
>> > of the many available "desktops" as a test
>>
>> I have reset the sizes of some of the icons in default views, and in
>> title bars. That seems to have helped. But there seems to be a
>> fundamental difference between Gnome icons and KDE icons. If I knew what
>> I was doing, I'd try to make a KDE icon theme from a Gnome theme...  But
>> I don't, at them moment.
> 
> KDE and Gnome use entirely different graphics engines so there is only so
> much you can do without re-programming, ie., creating a new theme from
> scratch.
(snip helpful text)

Thanks.

I've been kind of copying things I like from different icon themes into
one. I guess I'll have to look at a number of themes to h\get some of the
things I like working on both sides. It is just window and tool bar icons
that seem to be the trouble for me at the moment.

Thanks again.

-- 
Rick

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:43:05 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> __/ [Rick] on Sunday 05 February 2006 04:18 \__
> 
>> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
>> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.
>> 
>> Any help greatly appreciated.
> 
> It is possible, but this would require a fair amount of work, which makes
> one wonder why you don't use GNOME in the first place.

Gnome is not as easy to customize for me as KDE is, and it seems to me KDE
has more (number) and more matures apps (at least in areas I am using).

> KDE/GNOME can be
> made similar to merely anything in existence. See, for example:
> 
> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=522&slide=17
> 
> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23535
> 
> A good starting point for you would be to browse http://gnome-look.org and
> obtain some graphical sets to 'dress up' your KDE installation/settings
> with.

I have looked at KDE-look. I have DLed Gnome-mix icon set and am trying to
copy things from different sets. I'm a lot closer than I was.

> 
> Hope it helps,
> 
Yes, it did. Thanks.

-- 
Rick

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:18:37 +0000, Rick wrote:

> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated.

OK.. I'm close.

I have 32x32 icons close, and toolbar text close, and KDE and gtk themes
that are close.

I think the process would be to find close/identical theme/styles
(Gnome/KDE). Change the toolbar/menu text where needed. Match icons. I am
thinking I should be able to do one set, and then scale down all the icons
in set by a script.

Does this seem reasonable?

-- 
Rick

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Rick wrote:
> I think the process would be to find close/identical theme/styles
> (Gnome/KDE). Change the toolbar/menu text where needed. Match icons. I am
> thinking I should be able to do one set, and then scale down all the icons
> in set by a script.
>
> Does this seem reasonable?

Are they displayed at 100% of their size? If so, then yes. look at
ImageMagick to do resizing of multiple files.
If there is a way to tell how large things should be, then no.

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On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 17:51:55 +0000, Rick wrote:

> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:43:05 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> 
>> __/ [Rick] on Sunday 05 February 2006 04:18 \__
>> 
>>> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
>>> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.
>>> 
>>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> It is possible, but this would require a fair amount of work, which makes
>> one wonder why you don't use GNOME in the first place.
> 
> Gnome is not as easy to customize for me as KDE is, and it seems to me KDE
> has more (number) and more matures apps (at least in areas I am using).
> 
>> KDE/GNOME can be
>> made similar to merely anything in existence. See, for example:
>> 
>> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=522&slide=17
>> 
>> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23535
>> 
>> A good starting point for you would be to browse http://gnome-look.org and
>> obtain some graphical sets to 'dress up' your KDE installation/settings
>> with.
> 
> I have looked at KDE-look. I have DLed Gnome-mix icon set and am trying to
> copy things from different sets. I'm a lot closer than I was.
> 
>> 
>> Hope it helps,
>> 
> Yes, it did. Thanks.

You do realize that you can run any app with any desktop?. Just because a
program is a KDE app it doesn't mean that you can't run it under Gnome or
run a Gnome application under KDE. For that matter you can use Windowmaker
and still run the same applications. The only thing that makes a program a
KDE or Gnome app is the toolkit that it was written with. To the end user
the only impact that mixing applications has is that you need a little
more disk space to hold both sets of libraries, but in the age of 500G
drives who cares.

I'm at a complete loss to understand why anyone makes a big deal over KDE
vs Gnome since the desktops do so little for you and what they do do is
pretty much the same. They both have launch panels that operate
identically and that's the only feature that matters. The only difference
that I can notice is aesthetics. I use Gnome because it looks better
but if I had to switch to KDE for some reason it would have zero effect on
my productivity and I'm sure that within a few days I'd stop thinking that
it was ugly.

__/ [General Schvantzkoph] on Monday 06 February 2006 15:29 \__

> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 17:51:55 +0000, Rick wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:43:05 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> 
>>> __/ [Rick] on Sunday 05 February 2006 04:18 \__
>>> 
>>>> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
>>>> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.
>>>> 
>>>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> It is possible, but this would require a fair amount of work, which makes
>>> one wonder why you don't use GNOME in the first place.
>> 
>> Gnome is not as easy to customize for me as KDE is, and it seems to me KDE
>> has more (number) and more matures apps (at least in areas I am using).
>> 
>>> KDE/GNOME can be
>>> made similar to merely anything in existence. See, for example:
>>> 
>>> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=522&slide=17
>>> 
>>> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23535
>>> 
>>> A good starting point for you would be to browse http://gnome-look.org
>>> and obtain some graphical sets to 'dress up' your KDE
>>> installation/settings with.
>> 
>> I have looked at KDE-look. I have DLed Gnome-mix icon set and am trying to
>> copy things from different sets. I'm a lot closer than I was.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hope it helps,
>>> 
>> Yes, it did. Thanks.


Glad you found that useful!


> You do realize that you can run any app with any desktop?. Just because a
> program is a KDE app it doesn't mean that you can't run it under Gnome or
> run a Gnome application under KDE. For that matter you can use Windowmaker
> and still run the same applications. The only thing that makes a program a
> KDE or Gnome app is the toolkit that it was written with. To the end user
> the only impact that mixing applications has is that you need a little
> more disk space to hold both sets of libraries, but in the age of 500G
> drives who cares.
> 
> I'm at a complete loss to understand why anyone makes a big deal over KDE
> vs Gnome since the desktops do so little for you and what they do do is
> pretty much the same. They both have launch panels that operate
> identically and that's the only feature that matters. The only difference
> that I can notice is aesthetics. I use Gnome because it looks better
> but if I had to switch to KDE for some reason it would have zero effect on
> my productivity and I'm sure that within a few days I'd stop thinking that
> it was ugly.


I cannot say that I fully agree. I have been using GNOME at work for a long
time and it has been acceptable only because I permanently SSH to a SuSE
machine running KDE.

The handling of data objects in Konqueror (previews, icon sizes, and endless
levels of user customisation), as well data access transparency over FTP,
for example, makes it a tool that I refuse to give up.

Moreover, you soon come to discover that desktop pagers and monitors (among
other components) in KDE are richer. This often offers practical benefits
that surpass the eye-candy factor. I agree with you, however, that much of
what KDE boasts is eye candy while, in pragmatic terms, GNOME does merely
the same stuff even without extending it or bridging and gaps with KDE
modules and applications. The recent GNOME demo (
http://gnomedesktop.org/node/2580 ) suggests that eye candy is less of a
factor nowadays as margins are made narrower.

Also see: GNOME mockups (
http://typo.bicherele.net/articles/2006/01/07/december-gnome-mockups )

Best wishes,

Roy

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On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:29:03 -0500, General Schvantzkoph wrote:

> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 17:51:55 +0000, Rick wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:43:05 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> 
>>> __/ [Rick] on Sunday 05 February 2006 04:18 \__
>>> 
>>>> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make
>>>> KDE look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar
>>>> icons.
>>>> 
>>>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> It is possible, but this would require a fair amount of work, which
>>> makes one wonder why you don't use GNOME in the first place.
>> 
>> Gnome is not as easy to customize for me as KDE is, and it seems to me
>> KDE has more (number) and more matures apps (at least in areas I am
>> using).
>> 
>>> KDE/GNOME can be
>>> made similar to merely anything in existence. See, for example:
>>> 
>>> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=522&slide=17
>>> 
>>> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23535
>>> 
>>> A good starting point for you would be to browse http://gnome-look.org
>>> and obtain some graphical sets to 'dress up' your KDE
>>> installation/settings with.
>> 
>> I have looked at KDE-look. I have DLed Gnome-mix icon set and am trying
>> to copy things from different sets. I'm a lot closer than I was.
>> 
>> 
>>> Hope it helps,
>>> 
>> Yes, it did. Thanks.
> 
> You do realize that you can run any app with any desktop?. Just because a
> program is a KDE app it doesn't mean that you can't run it under Gnome or
> run a Gnome application under KDE. (snip)

Yes, as long as the appropriate libs/environments are installed.



> 
> I'm at a complete loss to understand why anyone makes a big deal over KDE
> vs Gnome since the desktops do so little for you and what they do do is
> pretty much the same.

They do not. That is why they each exist.

> They both have launch panels that operate
> identically and that's the only feature that matters.

Really? Remote login (gnome) and Switch User (KDE) do not work exactly the
same. And it seems you have to be running kdm for Switch user to work,
and gdm for Remote login to work.

> The only difference
> that I can notice is aesthetics. I use Gnome because it looks better but

I think Gome looks better, too. But KDe seems more functional ... for me.

> if I had to switch to KDE for some reason it would have zero effect on
> my productivity and I'm sure that within a few days I'd stop thinking
> that it was ugly.

I'm trying to change how KDE looks, so I have both.

-- 
Rick

On 2006-02-05, Rick <none@nomail.com> wrote:

> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.

Isn't this what RedHat's "Bluecurve" interface was supposed to do?

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[Snip...]

> Isn't this what RedHat's "Bluecurve" interface was supposed to do?

Yes--IIRC I used it with RH 9.0, but wasn't too impressed with it, one way
or the other. Then, I'm composing in vi/slrn under twm--it figures.   :)

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On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:18:37 +0000, Rick wrote:

> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.

I have to chime in to ask you why you don't just use gnome?  You can use
all the KDE apps you want, and even customize icons and taskbars to use
them.  

There was a time, back in the dark ages, when you had to worry about how
many shared libraries you were using at once, but these days, with memory
so cheap, there really is no concern.  

Heck, up until about six months ago, I was still using mwm (motif), but
have been using a number of gnome programs for years.  It is a little
harder to configure gnome programs without using the whole ball of wax,
but not significantly so.  I imagine kde's the same way.

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On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:34:07 -0500, David L. Johnson wrote:

> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:18:37 +0000, Rick wrote:
> 
>> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
>> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.
> 
> I have to chime in to ask you why you don't just use gnome?  You can use
> all the KDE apps you want, and even customize icons and taskbars to use
> them.

Because I don't want to use Gome? Because KDE is easier to customize than
Gnome? Because the menus are easily edited? Because I can put different
pics on different desktops?

> 
> There was a time, back in the dark ages, when you had to worry about how
> many shared libraries you were using at once, but these days, with memory
> so cheap, there really is no concern.
> 
> Heck, up until about six months ago, I was still using mwm (motif), but
> have been using a number of gnome programs for years.  It is a little
> harder to configure gnome programs without using the whole ball of wax,
> but not significantly so.  I imagine kde's the same way.

Actually, I am using WindowMaker, at the moment. KDE's kicker seems to
work. I can even use the Switch User menu, since I'm using kdm, too.

I have found an icon theme set called Gnome-mix, and have swapped some of
those icons out. And I have changed some of the colors in the KDE
style I'm using. Things are fairly close now.

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On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:05:10 +0000, John Thompson wrote:

> On 2006-02-05, Rick <none@nomail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
>> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.
>>
>> Any help greatly appreciated.
> 
> Isn't this what RedHat's "Bluecurve" interface was supposed to do?

Yes,somewhat, but there isn't a Blue Curve for KDE outside of Red
Ht/Fedora. I found a KDE icon set that has helped make things look a
somewhat closer.

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Rick wrote:
> I have found an icon theme set called Gnome-mix, and have swapped some of
> those icons out. And I have changed some of the colors in the KDE
> style I'm using. Things are fairly close now.

I never could get the hang of icons on my desktop. I would have a
program open and then I woul need to either move it or minimalize it,
just so I can press a small picture.

In WindowMaker, I use wmdrawer to start the programs I want. No need to
move stuff around.

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On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:56:44 +0000, Rick wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:34:07 -0500, David L. Johnson wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:18:37 +0000, Rick wrote:
>> 
>>> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
>>> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.
>> 
>> I have to chime in to ask you why you don't just use gnome?  You can use
>> all the KDE apps you want, and even customize icons and taskbars to use
>> them.
> 
> Because I don't want to use Gome? Because KDE is easier to customize than
> Gnome? Because the menus are easily edited? Because I can put different
> pics on different desktops?

OK, but you have to understand that it seems strange to want to make one
GUI look like the other; something like those wanting a linux machine to
look like, and run the same programs as, a winders machine.

Personally, I don't want to bother with KDE, and only bothered with gnome
to get a way to navigate better between windows.  I have since found that
there are lots of little gnome apps that replace, very nicely, a lot of
the old apps I had collected over the years.  Chaq'on a son go\^{u}t.

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Rick wrote:
> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated.

 From what I've been reading, I may be the only one here who actually 
gets what you want. You want a desktop that WORKS like KDE, but with 
Gnome-style icons. I'm the same way myself. I use KDE, but have assigned 
several Gnome-style icons because I like them better. It's a matter of 
personal taste, that's all. That is, after all, what Linux is all about 
- the ability to make your own choices, unlike that other popular OS.

 From the newsgroups where you've posted, I'm assuming you're using 
suse. I'm posting from c.o.l.m and I use Mandriva 2006, so what I 
suggest probably won't help but... Mandriva has a GUI program called 
Menudrake that will do just what you're asking. It adjusts KDE's "K" 
menu configuration. Icon choices in the K menu are apparently carried 
over onto the desktop. At least, that's the way it's worked for me. 
Menudrake has three lists of icon styles - Mandriva, KDE, and Gnome. I 
use some off each list, purely as a matter of personal preference. 
Perhaps there's something similar with your distro - I wouldn't know. If 
not, I would investigate manually adjusting the config file for the K 
menu. (and with that last suggestion, I'm WAY out of my depth. Take it 
for what it's worth.)

TJ

On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:53:49 -0500, TJ wrote:

> Rick wrote:
>> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make KDE
>> look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar icons.
>> 
>> Any help greatly appreciated.
> 
>  From what I've been reading, I may be the only one here who actually
> gets what you want. You want a desktop that WORKS like KDE, but with
> Gnome-style icons. I'm the same way myself. I use KDE, but have assigned
> several Gnome-style icons because I like them better. It's a matter of
> personal taste, that's all. That is, after all, what Linux is all about -
> the ability to make your own choices, unlike that other popular OS.

Thanks. Yes that is exactly what I want.

> 
>  From the newsgroups where you've posted, I'm assuming you're using
> suse. I'm posting from c.o.l.m and I use Mandriva 2006, so what I suggest
> probably won't help but... Mandriva has a GUI program called Menudrake
> that will do just what you're asking. It adjusts KDE's "K" menu
> configuration. Icon choices in the K menu are apparently carried over onto
> the desktop. At least, that's the way it's worked for me. Menudrake has
> three lists of icon styles - Mandriva, KDE, and Gnome. I use some off each
> list, purely as a matter of personal preference. Perhaps there's something
> similar with your distro - I wouldn't know. If not, I would investigate
> manually adjusting the config file for the K menu. (and with that last
> suggestion, I'm WAY out of my depth. Take it for what it's worth.)
> 
I have found a icon theme set called Gnome Mix. I have added a couple of
icons from other sets and am starting to get a very Gnome-ish look. 

Now, I I could only figure out where my present gtk theme gets some of its
icons from, I could have both themes using some of the same icons.

Thanks for the info.

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On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:25:39 -0500, David L. Johnson wrote:

> On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:56:44 +0000, Rick wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:34:07 -0500, David L. Johnson wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:18:37 +0000, Rick wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I know this may be somewhat heretical, but is there any way to make
>>>> KDE look like the Gnome? I am speaking of general icons, and taskbar
>>>> icons.
>>> 
>>> I have to chime in to ask you why you don't just use gnome?  You can
>>> use all the KDE apps you want, and even customize icons and taskbars to
>>> use them.
>> 
>> Because I don't want to use Gome? Because KDE is easier to customize
>> than Gnome? Because the menus are easily edited? Because I can put
>> different pics on different desktops?
> 
> OK, but you have to understand that it seems strange to want to make one
> GUI look like the other; something like those wanting a linux machine to
> look like, and run the same programs as, a winders machine.

Yes, I understand that... that's why I said "I know this may be somewhat
heretical" earlier.

> 
> Personally, I don't want to bother with KDE, and only bothered with gnome
> to get a way to navigate better between windows.  I have since found that
> there are lots of little gnome apps that replace, very nicely, a lot of
> the old apps I had collected over the years.  Chaq'on a son go\^{u}t.

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