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Challenge-Response For Linux. Does It Exist?

Is there a challenge-response email helper for linux? I hate editing .conf files or any kind of files, so I need something that I can just download and install and point my thunderbird email program to 127.0.0.1 and be sure that all the spammers will get a challenge so I don't have to look at the bastards.

It can be done in Windows, or so I have heard.

I am running Xandros, which is a Debian kind of system.  If that helps.

farsight1L (1)

10/9/2005 12:31:21 AM

Junius Peacham <farsight1L@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a challenge-response email helper for linux? 

Here you go:
http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Rants/challenge-response.html

-- 
Cheers,                   Mark Moraes: "Usenet is not a right."
Rick Moen            Edward Vielmetti: "Usenet is a right, a left, a jab,
rick@linuxmafia.com                     and a sharp uppercut to the jaw.
                                        The postman hits!  You have new mail."
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

rick76 (550)

10/9/2005 12:40:49 AM

Junius Peacham writes:
> Is there a challenge-response email helper for linux? I hate editing
> .conf files or any kind of files...

But you don't mind spamming those whose addresses the spammers forge with
your challenges, eh?

> ...be sure that all the spammers will get a challenge...

The spammers will get none of the challenges.  They _always_ forge return
addresses.
-- 
John Hasler 
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

john4584 (1601)

10/9/2005 1:17:41 AM

On comp.os.linux.misc, in <E8TBAOIV38634.3555555556@reece.net.au>, "Junius Peacham" wrote:
<body not downloaded>

This alias has no posting history. I won't be reading any
articles posted under it, nor any responses to them. It has
been killscored here.

And the person hiding behind it is as dumb as a brick: I've been
posting the URL to a free Challenge-Response System for Linux,
right here, for the last week, that I use myself, and anyone can
find others (more sophisticated ones) on the Web with a search
engine.

Or use the most basic sort, found at this site:

(It's okay if your MSP does a good job of filtering
out most of the spam for you.)

http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/info/spamfoil.html

That page was my original inspiration.

This is from the page's intro:

# Please be forewarned that there is a hot opposition to
the C/R (challenge-response) email filtering concepts, best
observed in the Usenet newsgroups news.admin.net-abuse.email
and comp.mail.misc. The method even makes a curious, inaccurate
appearance on a personal hate page.

/quote

I'll bet that "personal hate page" is this:

http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

I've never looked at the page because I don't read trollshit
if I can help it.

wget -U MSIE6 --spider http://....

tells me that it is still there.

As for the "hot opposition" on those two newgroups? Who
gives a tinker's dam what a bunch of shit-for-brains trolls
and spammers think or post?

If they don't like CRSs they can kiss my butt.

----------------------

Nor do you particularly need a special program for Linux.
Earthlink and other MSPs offer web-based Challenge-Response
Systems for all of their users.

No. I won't answer any questions about my program on the Usenet.

You'll have to mail me. And if you don't use your real return
address, I'll never know you even tried to mail me.

I use a Challenge-Response System :-)

See the contact page on my website if you really want to talk
to me.

No time for dung-for-brains trolls with their Mommy's computers
who get their tiny rocks off jerking people around on the Usenet
or sending sophomoric abuse through the mails.

--
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/elrav1/cr.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/slrn/
Other URLs in headers.

i3x9mdw (420)

10/9/2005 1:20:47 AM

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:31:21 +0000, Junius Peacham wrote:

> be sure that all the spammers will get a challenge so I don't have to
> look at the bastards.
> 
Don't go there.  C/R doesn't work; the whole concept is flawed.

Spammers don't get the challenges - the innocent bystander whose address
the spammer has used as the return address will get them instead.
I know - I get several per day for mail not sent by me.

B.
-- 
Ham and Eggs: Just a day's work for a chicken,
but a lifetime commitment for a pig.

brian7635 (119)

10/9/2005 11:47:21 AM

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:31:21 GMT in comp.os.linux.misc, Junius 
Peacham favored us with...
> Is there a challenge-response email helper for linux?

Whether there is or not, you don't want one. C-R is a really bad 
idea.

C-R is to email what Windows Authentication is to Windows -- it 
doesn't keep out the cheaters, and it burdens the legitimate users.

-- 
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
                                   http://OakRoadSystems.com
Modern cyberspace is a deadly festering swamp, teeming with
dangerous programs such as "viruses," "worms," "Trojan horses,"
and "licensed Microsoft software" that can take over your
computer and render it useless.                 --Dave Barry

the_stan_brown (40)

10/9/2005 12:55:49 PM

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 12:47:21 +0100
Brian <brian@beepbeep.invalid> wrote:

> 
> Spammers don't get the challenges - the innocent bystander whose
> address the spammer has used as the return address will get them
> instead. I know - I get several per day for mail not sent by me.

This is what gets me, personally: I don't think I've ever gotten a
misbegotten challenge, but the idea that someone, at some point,
thought that spammers would do anything /but/ use stolen email
addresses just blows my mind. Didn't the people who thought up this
scheme have any experience with spam, or were they simply counting on
their way of doing things to catch on so completely nobody would mind
getting flooded with random challenges? Rick Moen's website lists more
things wrong with the notion than this, but this is the flaw that makes
me wonder why /anyone/ would /ever/ try this scheme.

(Equal time: C-R is good for things like authenticating a specific
person over a public link. (Like a WWII soldier shouting "Thunder!
Thunder or I /will/ fire on you!" and expecting the correct phrase in
response.) If done cryptographically (Alice signs M, sends it to
maybe-Bob who can verify her signature, sign it himself, and send it
back to verify his identity.) it could even be useful. None of this has
anything to do with spam, of course.)

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usenet30 (677)

10/10/2005 2:35:03 AM

On comp.os.linux.misc, in <20051009203503.2331ce01.chbarts+usenet@gmail.com>, "Chris Barts" wrote:
<body not downloaded>

Chris Barts
Results 1 - 99 of 99 posts in the last year
      1 alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
     12 alt.fan.cecil-adams
     10 alt.folklore.urban
      3 alt.os.linux.slackware
      5 alt.religion.scientology
      3 alt.test
      7 comp.arch
      1 comp.lang.asm.x86
     26 comp.lang.c
      3 comp.lang.c++
      5 comp.lang.perl.misc
      6 comp.os.linux.advocacy
      3 comp.os.linux.misc
      2 comp.programming
      1 comp.programming.threads
      1 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
      1 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
      6 comp.unix.programmer
      2 comp.unix.shell
      1 sci.crypt

Can you say "troll" (or worse) boys and girls?

Trolls and spammers HATE Challenge-Response Systems
because they can't beat them.

(They've been trying to beat mine for years, and I
never even notice unless I check my logs.)

Do you imagine that a troll or spammer would think
even twice about posting lies on the Usenet or the Web?

Hardly. These scum would steal purses from old ladies
if they had the balls to do anything but hide behind
the Internet and run their big mouths.

Sure am glad that they can't get in my newsreader or
mailboxes any more.

Sure smells better around here.

AC

-- 
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/elrav1/cr.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/slrn/
Other URLs in headers

i3x9mdw (420)

10/10/2005 3:24:20 AM

Alan Connor wrote:


Cross-posting cut


> Can you say "troll" (or worse) boys and girls?
> 
> Trolls and spammers HATE Challenge-Response Systems
> because they can't beat them.
> 
> (They've been trying to beat mine for years, and I
> never even notice unless I check my logs.)
> 
> Do you imagine that a troll or spammer would think
> even twice about posting lies on the Usenet or the Web?
> 
> Hardly. These scum would steal purses from old ladies
> if they had the balls to do anything but hide behind
> the Internet and run their big mouths.
> 
> Sure am glad that they can't get in my newsreader or
> mailboxes any more.
> 
> Sure smells better around here.
> 

  Great you are leaving, the usenet will rejoice.

Found the perfect description of you Allan


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net.kook




-- 
*~~~~~~~~~Thor

thor9441 (40)

10/10/2005 3:37:15 AM

Alan Connor wrote:

Cross-posting snipped.

> On comp.os.linux.misc, in <E8TBAOIV38634.3555555556@reece.net.au>, "Junius
> Peacham" wrote: <body not downloaded>
> 
> This alias has no posting history. I won't be reading any
> articles posted under it, nor any responses to them. It has
> been killscored here.

And you have changed your identity too and escaped my kill file. Using your
logic, I should ignore everything you say.  So I will.

PLONK (again)

James
-- 
I may not be totally perfect, but parts of me are excellent.
  -- Ashleigh Brilliant

spam.this (74)

10/10/2005 5:56:14 AM

In article <slrndkjmp3.1tn.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid>
Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote:
>

alt.asshole.alan-connor

domainz (2)

10/10/2005 6:48:37 AM

On comp.os.linux.misc, in <vccp13-4an.ln1@gandalf.grayonline.id.au>, "Centurion" wrote:
<body not downloaded>

Centurion 
Results 1 - 100 of 2,140 posts in the last year.
      1 alt.bestjobsusa.kansas.jobs
      1 alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
      1 alt.ham-radio.hf
      1 alt.jobs.offered
      1 alt.os.linux.suse
      2 alt.sports.baseball.bos-redsox
      2 alt.sports.baseball.ny-yankees
     11 aus.aviation
      1 aus.computers.linux
      3 aus.motorcycles
      1 chile.rec.fotografia
      4 chile.rec.tv
      1 chile.varios.misc
      2 comp.os.linux.misc
      1 es.charla.actualidad
      2 es.charla.moteros
     11 es.charla.motor
      2 es.charla.politica.misc
      1 es.comp.redes.adsl
      1 es.rec.tv.misc
      1 es.rec.viajes
      1 es.tecnica.redes.telefonia.movil
      4 hr.comp.igre
      1 hr.comp.igre.rpg
      5 hr.rec.kladjenje
      1 it.hobby.fai-da-te
      1 microsoft.public.word.formatting.longdocs
      2 pl.misc.samochody
      3 pl.rec.ksiazki
      1 pl.rec.kuchnia
      1 pl.rec.wspinaczka
      3 pl.soc.polityka
      2 pl.soc.polityka.wybory
      1 pl.soc.prawo
     21 pl.soc.religia
      1 rec.sport.waterski
      1 us.jobs.offered


AC


-- 
Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/
Fanclub: http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

i3x9mdw (420)

10/10/2005 8:22:02 AM

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:24:20 GMT
Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote:

> Chris Barts
> Results 1 - 99 of 99 posts in the last year

How... obsessive of you.

>       1 alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati

Never posted here. Don't read this group, don't even own an ATI card. I
can't think why my posts could even be crossposted here.

<snip>
>       1 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
>       1 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit

Two more mystery groups. I do own 32-bit IBM-clone hardware, however.
Probably Followup-To crossposting from the assembly groups I do read
and post to.

<snip>
>       1 sci.crypt

I will probably begin reading this group, but I don't know how one of
my posts ended up there.

> 
> Can you say "troll" (or worse) boys and girls?

I can say "Alan Connor", yes.

> 
> Trolls and spammers HATE Challenge-Response Systems
> because they can't beat them.

I hate you because I can't physically beat you.

> 
> (They've been trying to beat mine for years, and I
> never even notice unless I check my logs.)

I imagine you spend a lot of time with your logs. Don't let your mom
catch you: Going back into therapy is expensive.

> 
> Do you imagine that a troll or spammer would think
> even twice about posting lies on the Usenet or the Web?

You don't.

> 
> Hardly. These scum would steal purses from old ladies
> if they had the balls to do anything but hide behind
> the Internet and run their big mouths.

You'd know. Intimately.

> 
> Sure am glad that they can't get in my newsreader or
> mailboxes any more.

As am I.

*plonk*

> 
> Sure smells better around here.

You must have ran out of logs.

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usenet30 (677)

10/10/2005 9:34:56 AM

Alan Connor wrote:

Hey Alan - just for kicks I waited for your response...and I've come to the
conclusion your news feed sux.  My numbers (below) only count stuff in 2005
and only the stuff that's been relayed via my main leafnode box.

> On comp.os.linux.misc, in <vccp13-4an.ln1@gandalf.grayonline.id.au>
                                            ^^^^^^^
                               That's leafnode on my lappy,
                            which relays thru my main leafnode

> Centurion
> Results 1 - 100 of 2,140 posts in the last year.
>       1 alt.bestjobsusa.kansas.jobs
>       1 alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
>       1 alt.ham-radio.hf
>       1 alt.jobs.offered
These four are complete crap - someone simply used my identity (trivial to
do).

>       1 alt.os.linux.suse
Erm - no, 19 posts.


>       2 alt.sports.baseball.bos-redsox
>       2 alt.sports.baseball.ny-yankees
Hijacked ID again - never subscribed to these.  Although my employer's head
office is in Boston, so it's kinda company policy to be Red Sox fan.  It's
a sackable offence to even mention the Yankees!  Especially around the CTO.

>      11 aus.aviation
LOL - try 153 posts

>       1 aus.computers.linux
Nup - 15 posts

>       3 aus.motorcycles
Bzzzt - wrong again. 40 posts.

>       1 chile.rec.fotografia
>       4 chile.rec.tv
>       1 chile.varios.misc
Never subscribed to this triplet.

>       2 comp.os.linux.misc
You just can't win can you? Try 24 posts.

>       1 es.charla.actualidad
>       2 es.charla.moteros
>      11 es.charla.motor
>       2 es.charla.politica.misc
>       1 es.comp.redes.adsl
>       1 es.rec.tv.misc
>       1 es.rec.viajes
>       1 es.tecnica.redes.telefonia.movil
I don't speak a single word of Spanish - lol.

>       4 hr.comp.igre
>       1 hr.comp.igre.rpg
>       5 hr.rec.kladjenje
My Hungarian is worse than my Spanish!

>       1 it.hobby.fai-da-te
Italian? Erm, I think I can say "Eric was late for dinner" in Italian.  Or
is that "Eric has passed away?" - NFI, I was 7 years old when we did
Italian at school.  But I can order a kilo of apples in French...wanna list
a few in the "fr." hierarchy just for kicks?

>       1 microsoft.public.word.formatting.longdocs
Nup - maybe a post I made to a FreeBSD list about OpenOffice was
cross-posted there by accident.  NFI.

>       2 pl.misc.samochody
>       3 pl.rec.ksiazki
>       1 pl.rec.kuchnia
>       1 pl.rec.wspinaczka
>       3 pl.soc.polityka
>       2 pl.soc.polityka.wybory
>       1 pl.soc.prawo
>      21 pl.soc.religia
Polish - heheh.  You're not doing very well here Alan!

>       1 rec.sport.waterski
None via *my* Usenet feed....maybe from the University.

>       1 us.jobs.offered
Why would I be looking for jobs in the USA? I don't have a green card and I
already am employed by a US-based multi-national.  I spend a fair bit of
time in .ma as it is - no need to live there though.

Like I said, your news feed sux, and your attempt to "out" me, or "shame" me
or whatever this totally inaccurate list of groups was supposed to do
failed miserably.  My public GPG is available on any number of public key
servers - where's yours?

Don't bother replying....you really are kill filed now.

James
-- 
The future depends on what we do in the present.
                -- Mahatma Gandhi

spam_this2 (59)

10/10/2005 9:59:54 AM

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:35:03 -0600, Chris Barts wrote:

[snips]
> ... the idea that someone, at some point, thought that spammers would do
> anything /but/ use stolen email addresses just blows my mind.
>
Obsessive nut-jobs like AC will tell you that spammers don't do this
because it's illegal, and that they always use their own address.
<sigh> I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

B.
-- 
Quantum Mechanics: the dreams that stuff is made from.

brian7635 (119)

10/10/2005 10:44:32 AM

* Thor Wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:

> Found the perfect description of you Allan
> 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net.kook
> 

You need something more specific:

http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

-- 
David

arcade.master1 (48)

10/10/2005 4:55:31 PM

Junius Peacham wrote:
> Is there a challenge-response email helper for linux? I hate editing .conf files or any kind of files, so I need something that I can just download and install and point my thunderbird email program to 127.0.0.1 and be sure that all the spammers will get a challenge so I don't have to look at the bastards.
> 
> It can be done in Windows, or so I have heard.
> 
> I am running Xandros, which is a Debian kind of system.  If that helps.
> 
People can run these systems, of course. I think they are worse than useless
as they cause sending of spam to innocent bystanders, since most spammers
these days use forged valid return addresses not their own, and the rightful
users of these addresses are then stuck with the challenges.

Unfortunately. I guess they are not much good.
I get challenges to e-mail I never sent. So the challenges just add to the
list of spam I receive. Sometimes I even get the bounces that some people
send to the challenges. When you open a can of worms, to recan them takes a
larger sized can. C-R systems are the can of worms to which I refer. It
seems to me that users of C-R systems are part of the spam problem, not part
of the solution.

So far I have been on the Internet and other e-mail since the early 1970s. A
few days ago, I received _my first valid challenge_ to an e-mail I actually
sent. Unfortunately it required me to go to a port (not port 80) blocked by
my firewall (the IP address was not blocked; just the unusual port number
was blocked). I did not wish to change my firewall to unblock that port at
that IP address just to reply to the challenge, so I had to continue the
correspondance another way.

-- 
  .~.  Jean-David Beyer          Registered Linux User 85642.
  /V\  PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A         Registered Machine   241939.
 /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey    http://counter.li.org
 ^^-^^ 13:05:00 up 1 day, 11:26, 3 users, load average: 4.18, 4.25, 4.26

jdbeyer (1220)

10/10/2005 5:14:49 PM

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:14:49 -0400 in comp.os.linux.misc, Jean-David 
Beyer favored us with...
> Unfortunately. I guess they are not much good.
> I get challenges to e-mail I never sent. So the challenges just add to the
> list of spam I receive.

Some people report the unsolicited challenges as spam. I have no 
sympathy for the challenge-senders who then get blacklisted.

-- 
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
                                  http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"You find yourself amusing, Blackadder."
"I try not to fly in the face of public opinion."

the_stan_brown (40)

10/10/2005 6:52:21 PM

On comp.os.linux.misc, in <didgmf$d6o$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, "Brian" wrote:
<body not downloaded>

Trolls/spammers love to hide their posting histories by using
common names for aliases. That way, no one can pick their posts
out of those of all the other people who use the same alias.

Here's a perfect example, spam that has showed up on these group
only after the trolls and spammers who hate Challenge-Responses
started posting their garbage here:

25:[david       ]    >> Unlimited Free Music Downloads ! <<

(didn't download the body of that post either)

Only an idiot would do business with some loser who has to spam
the Usenet.

Who cares about these impotent motor-mouthed cowards?

They can't get their garbage into my newsreader or into my
mailbox, and that's all they do is post garbage.


AC


-- 
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/elrav1/cr.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/slrn/
Other URLs in headers.

i3x9mdw (420)

10/10/2005 7:18:13 PM

On Monday 10 October 2005 21:18, Alan Connor stood up and spoke the
following words to the masses in /comp.os.linux.misc...:/

> On comp.os.linux.misc, in <didgmf$d6o$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>,
> "Brian" wrote: <body not downloaded>
> 
> Trolls/spammers love to hide their posting histories by using
> common names for aliases. That way, no one can pick their posts
> out of those of all the other people who use the same alias.
> 
> Here's a perfect example, spam that has showed up on these group
> only after the trolls and spammers who hate Challenge-Responses
> started posting their garbage here:
> 
> 25:[david       ]    >> Unlimited Free Music Downloads ! <<
> 
> (didn't download the body of that post either)

There wasn't all that much to download.  The body contained only two or
three words, all in uppercase, not even a URL.

This guy multiposted the same message to many different Gnu/Linux
groups, and even *if* there was someone who was even remotely
interested in this guy's /warez,/ nobody would know where to go to for
this "free music download".

Talking about stupidity... ;-) 

-- 
With kind regards,

*Aragorn*
(Registered Gnu/Linux user #223157)

stryder (1498)

10/10/2005 9:39:38 PM

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:34:56 -0600, Chris Barts wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:24:20 GMT
> Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote:
> 

>> Trolls and spammers HATE Challenge-Response Systems because they can't
>> beat them.
> 
> I hate you because I can't physically beat you.

ROTFL

This gets my nomination for best one-liner of the day.   ;-)

-- 
imotgm   
       "Lost? Lost? I've never been lost... Been a tad confused for a
        month or two, but never lost."

imotgm_REM (66)

10/10/2005 10:32:01 PM

On comp.os.linux.misc, in <pan.2005.10.10.22.31.55.318640@invalid-yahoo.com>, "imotgm" wrote:
<body not downloaded>

imotgm
Results 1 - 80 of 80 posts in the last year
      7 alt.os.linux
     31 alt.os.linux.mandrake
      2 alt.os.linux.slackware
     26 alt.os.linux.suse
      1 alt.privacy.anon-server
      8 comp.os.linux.misc
      2 comp.os.linux.setup
      3 uk.comp.os.linux

AC


-- 
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/elrav1/
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/slrn/
http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

i3x9mdw (420)

10/10/2005 11:16:03 PM

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Alan Connor wrote:

> imotgm
> Results 1 - 80 of 80 posts in the last year

Where do you get these statistics? I can see how to tell Google to only
find posts made during the last year, but I can't find how to tell it to
prepare a list of groups where a user posted.

-- 
Yves Bellefeuille <yan@storm.ca>
"America is less a beacon of hope than a dangerous force to be 
countered." -- US State Department

yan6406 (128)

10/10/2005 11:53:26 PM

On comp.os.linux.misc, in
<pan.2005.10.10.23.53.26.858896@storm.ca>, "Yves Bellefeuille"
wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Alan Connor wrote:
>
>> imotgm Results 1 - 80 of 80 posts in the last year
>
> Where do you get these statistics? I can see how to tell Google
> to only find posts made during the last year, but I can't find
> how to tell it to prepare a list of groups where a user posted.

:-) 

That report is produced by a script I wrote that you can find on
my website in the slrn directory. You can use it if you have bash
on your box and your newsreader will pipe posts to an external
program.

I add the "posts in the last year" manually, though it is
accurate and could easily be included in the script's output.

>
> -- 
> Yves Bellefeuille <yan@storm.ca> "America is less a beacon
> of hope than a dangerous force to be countered." -- US State
> Department

That's the truth. Though you probably shouldn't criticize the
country that does most of Canada's dirty work for it.

America is Canada's biggest trading partner and the mass violence
and other crimes it does around the globe are for trade,
regardless of what they say.

When has Canada ever turned down the spoils of American
imperialism?

The only reason you haven't been annexed is that you already
do everything the Americans tell you to do.

They (and Canada and England and France and...) are a nation
of economic fundamentalists. Their morals end where their bank
accounts begin.

AC

-- 
Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/
Fanclub: http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

i3x9mdw (420)

10/11/2005 12:21:49 AM

imotgm <imotgm_REM@invalid-yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:34:56 -0600, Chris Barts wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:24:20 GMT
> > Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote:

While in secret-mode I do not use any accounts unless I had already set them up in secret mode. Yeah let the remops look at your website as you WHINE like a baby that YOU are the POOR POOR POOR POOR INNOCENT LITTLE VICTIM.��The�POOR�BABY! To blend in and keep my superhero cover I must mention that I do NOT troll, I do not use any accounts unless I had already set them up in some way) about me expressing my opinions without being abused, spied on, and attacked by hackers. 

> > 

Christ you are a kook and a proved liar to be advocating the use of the administration and use of the administration and use of anonymous remailers.��It's�not�a�group�for�you�to�whine�about content.��You've�been�shown�how�to�opt�out�of�receiving�e-mails�from�a remailer, and as far as usenet goes, it would take you about 2 minutes to set up a 50+ page website. He on a website., Cut the BOO HOO shit pansy! Christ you are a kook and a proved liar to be named. Italy claims that its new stance on security led to the creation of a small town. 

> 
> >> Trolls and spammers HATE Challenge-Response Systems because they can't
> >> beat them.
> > 
> > I hate you because I can't physically beat you.
> 

We are trying to get someone mad at me. This in mind, that I'm probably not important enough to get someone mad at me. This in mind, that I'm probably not important enough to realize that these federal IDs would be nice. 

> ROTFL
> 
> This gets my nomination for best one-liner of the day.   ;-)
> 
> -- 
> imotgm   
>        "Lost? Lost? I've never been lost... Been a tad confused for a
>         month or two, but never lost."
> 
>

nobody15 (1231)

10/11/2005 1:40:03 AM

Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote:

> On comp.os.linux.misc, in <pan.2005.10.10.22.31.55.318640@invalid-yahoo.com>, "imotgm" wrote:
> <body not downloaded>
> 
> imotgm
> Results 1 - 80 of 80 posts in the last year
>       7 alt.os.linux

Moore do you consider me pointing out that you won't see any of the aforementioned product. Instead, it was another 12+ hours before I realized pingd was not running. :-( Can anyone please give me a relaible site where i can download it with a signature file? 

>      31 alt.os.linux.mandrake
>       2 alt.os.linux.slackware
>      26 alt.os.linux.suse
>       1 alt.privacy.anon-server
>       8 comp.os.linux.misc
>       2 comp.os.linux.setup
>       3 uk.comp.os.linux
> 
> AC
> 

Does a forced From header, would affect your posting here, or to any newsgroup. Would you post here using one of the messages.��So,�your entire problem with remailers could be solved in about 3 minutes, and yet you have screamed and stomped and whined for over 5 years about this. 

> 
> -- 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/elrav1/
> http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/slrn/
> http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

nobody18 (427)

10/11/2005 2:28:50 AM

Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote:

> On comp.os.linux.misc, in <pan.2005.10.10.22.31.55.318640@invalid-yahoo.com>, "imotgm" wrote:
> <body not downloaded>
> 
> imotgm
> Results 1 - 80 of 80 posts in the last year
>       7 alt.os.linux
>      31 alt.os.linux.mandrake
>       2 alt.os.linux.slackware
>      26 alt.os.linux.suse
>       1 alt.privacy.anon-server
>       8 comp.os.linux.misc
>       2 comp.os.linux.setup
>       3 uk.comp.os.linux
> 
> AC
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/elrav1/
> http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/slrn/
> http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

nobody18 (427)

10/11/2005 2:43:56 AM

In article <slrndkm6na.2m6.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid>
Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote:
>

alt.asshole.alan-connor

nobody13 (330)

10/11/2005 3:50:39 AM

On comp.os.linux.misc, in <b15870f5b12f8c6eab5f139dd5aed5b7@mixmaster.it>, "George Orwell" wrote:
<body not downloaded>

One more time: I don't read the posts of stupid dickless punks
who hide behind multiple aliases and newsservers and "anonymous"
remailers and mail2news gateways.

Don't like what I have to say or how I do things?

Too bad. You can't do anything about it.

You can't even get your articles into my newsreader or your mails
into my mailboxes.

The same goes for any responses to your posts.

Your butt has been kicked, you obnoxious little boy.

Really. Pull your head out of said butt and you'll see
that very clearly.

Stupid punks have been posting crap about and to me for years.

Doesn't bother me a bit.

Any ignorant child with their Mommy's computer and credit card
can post garbage on the Usenet under various aliases and using
very NSPs.

You only impress other snot-nosed punks.

See those AC hate websites in my sig and headers? I've never read
those either.I don't read trollfarts.

AC


-- 
Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/
Fanclub1: http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml
Fanclub2: http://www.netcomhost.net/wordpress/victims-of-alan-connor/

i3x9mdw (420)

10/11/2005 3:56:17 AM

Alan Connor wrote:

> One more time: I don't read the posts of stupid dickless punks
> who hide behind multiple aliases and newsservers and "anonymous"
> remailers and mail2news gateways.

  Then how do you know they are writing something you don't like ?

> 
> Don't like what I have to say or how I do things?
> 
> Too bad. You can't do anything about it.
> 
> You can't even get your articles into my newsreader or your mails
> into my mailboxes.

 So how do you know they are writing bad things about you ?

> 
> The same goes for any responses to your posts.
> 
> Your butt has been kicked, you obnoxious little boy.

 I'm sure he is really frightened the ultimate netkook has has a tantrum at
him.

> 
> Really. Pull your head out of said butt and you'll see
> that very clearly.

  No Allan, you remove your head from your arse and look around.

> 
> Stupid punks have been posting crap about and to me for years.
> 
> Doesn't bother me a bit.

  Insanity does that to you, it makes you think that every one but you are
insane, punks or misinformed.

> 
> Any ignorant child with their Mommy's computer and credit card
> can post garbage on the Usenet under various aliases and using
> very NSPs.

 I've been using the alias of thor since 1992 yet your great system can't
separate me from others, it really is a heap of crock isn't it ?

> 
> You only impress other snot-nosed punks.
> 
> See those AC hate websites in my sig and headers? I've never read
> those either.I don't read trollfarts.

  Maybe you should, then you might learn, putting your head in the sand and
refusing to realise that you are wrong is hardly the response of the mature
adult you pretend to be.

-- 
*~~~~~~~~~Thor

thor9441 (40)

10/11/2005 4:05:40 AM

On comp.os.linux.misc, in <4b3808e9fc7772a0290fb7d8624d2fc0@pseudo.borked.net>, "Borked Pseudo Mailed" wrote:
<body not downloaded>

Thank you for wearing a gag when you are in my newsreader.

Not that you have any choice in the matter.

If you think I care what you post, you are as stupid as you
are cowardly.

As for caring who you are? Not bit. If someone sent you to
me in handcuffs, I'd contact whoever was delivering you and
have you dumped someplace a long way from here.


AC

-- 
Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/
Fanclub: http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

i3x9mdw (420)

10/11/2005 4:23:29 AM

In article <slrndkme5s.34j.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid>
Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote:
>

alt.asshole.alan-connor

shksameer2000 (2)

10/11/2005 4:36:11 AM

"Thor" <thor@valhalla.bbs.corn> wrote in message
news:pSG2f.17152$iM2.1403995@news.xtra.co.nz

>> One more time: I don't read the posts of stupid dickless punks
>> who hide behind multiple aliases and newsservers and "anonymous"
>> remailers and mail2news gateways.
>
>   Then how do you know they are writing something you don't like ?

You just don't "get it", do you? I'll say it again so that maybe it'll get
through your thick skull.

I don't read your posts, and they don't even make it into my newsreader. I
wouldn't even feed them to my compost pile if I had one.

AC

i3x9mdw (420)

10/11/2005 4:40:15 AM

Alan Connor wrote:

> "Thor" <thor@valhalla.bbs.corn> wrote in message
> news:pSG2f.17152$iM2.1403995@news.xtra.co.nz
> 
>>> One more time: I don't read the posts of stupid dickless punks
>>> who hide behind multiple aliases and newsservers and "anonymous"
>>> remailers and mail2news gateways.
>>
>>   Then how do you know they are writing something you don't like ?
> 
> You just don't "get it", do you? I'll say it again so that maybe it'll get
> through your thick skull.
> 
> I don't read your posts, and they don't even make it into my newsreader. I
> wouldn't even feed them to my compost pile if I had one.
> 

  If you don't read my posts how can you quote what I said ?
You are so stupid you just don't realise how stupid you are, quite pathetic
really.



-- 
*~~~~~~~~~Thor

thor9441 (40)

10/11/2005 4:44:49 AM

Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote:

> On comp.os.linux.misc, in <b15870f5b12f8c6eab5f139dd5aed5b7@mixmaster.it>, "George Orwell" wrote:
> <body not downloaded>
> 
> One more time: I don't read the posts of stupid dickless punks

"I will continue to post anonymously to usenet and to explain me how do I use all that stuff 'remailers', 'mixmeister' and such, I would be nice. ;-) Alternatively, a current stats provider could combine and average all the stats from up to five years. Dreier is smart enough to realize that these federal IDs would be immediately forged, so he takes the next step of linking them to an employment eligibility database that's queried by card readers whenever the ID is swiped. 

> who hide behind multiple aliases and newsservers and "anonymous"
> remailers and mail2news gateways.

Thank you for your time. Dreier's legislation would prohibit employers from hiring people unless the job applicants first obtain new federal ID cards with their photograph, Social Security Administration has on file. Instead, it was another 12+ hours before I realized pingd was not running. 

> 
> Don't like what I have to say or how I do things?
> 
> Too bad. You can't do anything about it.
> 

Bare with me during the change, some mail may be speaking for the taking of innocent lives. Those are the rules I live in a telephone interview. "Terrorists don't come to my house and whip me, come on! 

> You can't even get your articles into my newsreader or your mails
> into my mailboxes.
> 
> The same goes for any responses to your posts.
> 
> Your butt has been kicked, you obnoxious little boy.
> 
> Really. Pull your head out of said butt and you'll see
> that very clearly.
> 

"It is a technical newsgroup for the help you've given me even if you want to be associated with anything that stirs up trouble. I personally will probably never even say anything important enough to realize that these federal IDs would be immediately forged, so he takes the next step of linking them to an employment eligibility database that's queried by card readers whenever the ID is swiped. The employment database is required to include or exclude values for zero reliability for remailers that score zero in some sources (due to broken links, or not being listed, whatever), though I'd think that freedom of speech, as do I. I am using to send this message has one of them? 

> Stupid punks have been posting crap about and to me for years.

Yes, those actually were his reasons. This all came after his failed attempt to institute hate-speech filters and his "Common Sense" is a small one, and that there are many others who just gave up. But look at the old block names list and see how many THOUSANDS were on it who wanted to stop being forged by the enemy out to crush them, not concerned with giving them a fair price they can invade my privacy and my human rights in any way I can. 

> 
> Doesn't bother me a bit.
> 

Italy claims that its new stance on security led to the Interior Ministry. The ministry also reported that they are conducting "rigorous surveillance" of high- risk areas of terrorist activity and over 13,000 strategic locations in Italy. On Aug. 

> Any ignorant child with their Mommy's computer and credit card
> can post garbage on the Usenet under various aliases and using
> very NSPs.
> 
> You only impress other snot-nosed punks.
> 
> See those AC hate websites in my sig and headers? I've never read
> those either.I don't read trollfarts.
> 
> AC
> 
> 

Then we have those harassed by others like Turin Turambar when HE uses a remailer, or Stacy Alexander when she uses one. Then there are people out there for me to just mask my IP. That's all. 

> -- 
> Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/
> Fanclub1: http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml
> Fanclub2: http://www.netcomhost.net/wordpress/victims-of-alan-connor/

nobody23 (34)

10/11/2005 5:05:31 AM

On 2005-10-11, Thor <thor@valhalla.bbs.corn> wrote:
> Alan Connor wrote:
>> I don't read your posts, and they don't even make it into my newsreader. I
>> wouldn't even feed them to my compost pile if I had one.
>
>   If you don't read my posts how can you quote what I said ?

Maybe his scorefile is broken, again?

> You are so stupid you just don't realise how stupid you are, quite pathetic
> really.

Either that, or he's trolling you.  :)

--keith

-- 
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(try just my userid to email me)
AOLSFAQ=http://wombat.san-francisco.ca.us/cgi-bin/fom
see X- headers for PGP signature information

kkeller-usenet (1289)

10/11/2005 5:52:32 AM

Keith Keller blithely blithered
> On 2005-10-11, Thor <thor@valhalla.bbs.corn> wrote:
>> Alan Connor wrote:
>>> I don't read your posts, and they don't even make it into my newsreader. I
>>> wouldn't even feed them to my compost pile if I had one.
>>
>>   If you don't read my posts how can you quote what I said ?
>
> Maybe his scorefile is broken, again?

Cant be. He uses a custom challenge-respo... Oh. Nevermind.

-- 
I just couldn't resist.

jason3015 (1055)

10/11/2005 6:10:46 AM

In article <slrndkmcv8.2sp.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid>
Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote:
>

alt.asshole.alan-connor

shksameer2000 (2)

10/11/2005 7:45:17 AM

On comp.os.linux.misc, in <LLF7FBEC38636.6564467593@reece.net.au>, "Sameer" wrote:
<body not downloaded>

So you post using "AlanassholeConnor" on your From header and
you think that I'm going to read this post?

Listen closely: I won't ever read one of your posts. Not to
save your life.

I say what I want and I do what I want, and don't read the posts
of snivelling little cowards that hide behind multiple aliases
and such.

There's nothing you can do about it.

I don't care what you post. 

That should be really obvious.

Want to do real about me? You have an invitation to visit me,
anytime. Contact info on website.

Come ahead. See how I deal with people like you in the real
world. 

You'd never forget the experience, I assure you.

But I guess I'll have to wait until your testicles drop down
into your scrotum, won't I? You obviously don't have any balls
at this point.

AC


-- 
Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/
Fanclub: http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

i3x9mdw (420)

10/11/2005 8:25:42 AM

Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> did eloquently scribble:
> "Thor" <thor@valhalla.bbs.corn> wrote in message
> news:pSG2f.17152$iM2.1403995@news.xtra.co.nz
> 
>>> One more time: I don't read the posts of stupid dickless punks
>>> who hide behind multiple aliases and newsservers and "anonymous"
>>> remailers and mail2news gateways.
>>
>>   Then how do you know they are writing something you don't like ?
> 
> You just don't "get it", do you? I'll say it again so that maybe it'll get
> through your thick skull.
> 
> I don't read your posts, and they don't even make it into my newsreader. I
> wouldn't even feed them to my compost pile if I had one.

If you don't read his posts, and they don't even make it into your
newsreader.... How did you reply to that one?

Are you SO obsessive that on posting to a group and actively ignoring things
on the newsgroup by software control, you feel compelled to check the group
in google to see what they've been saying about you and then rescue the
posts from some dump directory?
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spike1 (8165)

10/11/2005 9:17:55 AM

Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> did eloquently scribble:
> On comp.os.linux.misc, in <vccp13-4an.ln1@gandalf.grayonline.id.au>, "Centurion" wrote:
> <body not downloaded>
> 
> Centurion 
> Results 1 - 100 of 2,140 posts in the last year.

Biiiig deal
What does that prove?  that he's responded to the odd crossposted thread?
WOW what a crime.

Or perhaps he has a much more varied set of interests than you? Who are you
to judge, mr "I use a challenge response system so I can't read any e-mails
from anyone, not even the person came up with the whole challenge response
idea because I'm too stupid to realise it's a stupid anti-spam method"

Gods, you're just as loopy as always, I see.
-- 
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spike1 (8165)

10/11/2005 9:17:55 AM

Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> did eloquently scribble:
> On comp.os.linux.misc, in <b15870f5b12f8c6eab5f139dd5aed5b7@mixmaster.it>, "George Orwell" wrote:
> <body not downloaded>
> 
> One more time: I don't read the posts of stupid dickless punks
> who hide behind multiple aliases and newsservers and "anonymous"
> remailers and mail2news gateways.

And one more time, why should any of us care if you can or can't see them?
We're all too busy laughing at you to bother.
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|            in            |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
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spike1 (8165)

10/11/2005 9:17:55 AM

Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> did eloquently scribble:
> On comp.os.linux.misc, in <LLF7FBEC38636.6564467593@reece.net.au>, "Sameer" wrote:
> <body not downloaded>
> 
> So you post using "AlanassholeConnor" on your From header and
> you think that I'm going to read this post?

AAAAaaah yes...
NOW I remember....
Your using the patented brain dead alanconnor system aren't you.
No sane person would. but you do...

For those in the dark, it goes something like this...
"I don't like something about your post, so my software auto deletes the
body.... it leaves the headers intact, but I'll delete the body anyway, I
will never see your posts, but I will post to tell you that your signature
was too wrong so I deleted the body so you know I didn't see it... (or
whatever other reason I didn't like the post)"

EGO problem? must be, it's the only reason anyone would think people CARE
what he sees.

> Listen closely: I won't ever read one of your posts. Not to
> save your life.

Only cos you're a brain dead moron with delusions of grandeur.

> I say what I want and I do what I want, and don't read the posts
> of snivelling little cowards that hide behind multiple aliases
> and such.

thank you cartman. 

> There's nothing you can do about it.

We don't care... you're just too funny to killfile though.

> I don't care what you post. 

You care enough to write long rambling diatribes about how much you don't
care.

> That should be really obvious.

You seem to be exhibiting conflicting emotions, you don't care what anyone
thinks but you'll be DAMNED if you're not going t rub our noses in the fact
you don't care.... A little bit of perspective might help...

NO ONE DOES CARE WHAT YOU POST. 
Other than for the amusement value.

> Want to do real about me? You have an invitation to visit me,
> anytime. Contact info on website.

And he'll lecture you on how he could kill you in 400 different ways with
his little finger....
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spike1 (8165)

10/11/2005 9:17:56 AM

Yves Bellefeuille <yan@storm.ca> did eloquently scribble:
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Alan Connor wrote:
> 
>> imotgm
>> Results 1 - 80 of 80 posts in the last year
> 
> Where do you get these statistics? I can see how to tell Google to only
> find posts made during the last year, but I can't find how to tell it to
> prepare a list of groups where a user posted.
> 
Simple perl script scanning the newsfeed stored by leafnode is how I've done
similar things, Yves...
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spike1 (8165)

10/11/2005 9:17:56 AM

On comp.os.linux.misc, in <2fas13-f6v.ln1@ridcully.fsnet.co.uk>, "spike1@freenet.co.uk" wrote:
<body not downloaded>

Okay. Enough is enough. I'm killfiling these threads.

I had forgotten that vermin like you can just run your punk
mouths forever, because that's all you do.

Don't like how I do things?

Eat shit.

Season to taste.


AC


-- 
Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/
Fanclub: http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

i3x9mdw (420)

10/11/2005 9:56:23 AM

In article <slrndkmtmh.3t1.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid>
Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote:
>

alt.asshole.alan-connor

lasvioletas (1)

10/11/2005 3:15:59 PM

spike1@freenet.co.uk wrote:

> Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> did eloquently scribble:
> > On comp.os.linux.misc, in <LLF7FBEC38636.6564467593@reece.net.au>, "Sameer" wrote:

Above all, don't send me a single example of an instance where I have vandalized anything. Or do you think is a kook and a proved liar to be advocating the use of anonymous remailers.��It's�not�a�group�for�you�to�whine�about content.��You've�been�shown�how�to�opt�out�of�receiving�e-mails�from�a remailer, and as far as usenet goes, it would take you about 2 minutes to set up PGP, or even installed it, so I am aware there is anyone out there willing to help curb abuses. Not to mention the good ol' 'security agencies' (bear in mind that my previous post was in no way intended to be advocating the use of anonymous remailers.��It's�not�a�group�for�you�to�whine�about content.��You've�been�shown�how�to�opt�out�of�receiving�e-mails�from�a remailer, and as far as usenet goes, it would take you about 2 minutes to set up a killfilter so that you would not want to feel comfortable (at least in some sources while being low in others. 

> > <body not downloaded>
> > 
> > So you post using "AlanassholeConnor" on your From header and
> > you think that I'm going to read this post?
> 
> AAAAaaah yes...
> NOW I remember....
> Your using the patented brain dead alanconnor system aren't you.
> No sane person would. but you do...
> 
> For those in the dark, it goes something like this...
> "I don't like something about your post, so my software auto deletes the
> body.... it leaves the headers intact, but I'll delete the body anyway, I
> will never see your posts, but I will post to tell you that your signature

Does a forced From header should be 'Fake Name' rather than the name of the messages from remailers have been around long enough to see them fake addresses and them (or one) cause a lot of problems in other groups. Nothing from a Databasix address will be accepted. 

> was too wrong so I deleted the body so you know I didn't see it... (or
> whatever other reason I didn't like the post)"
> 
> 
> EGO problem? must be, it's the only reason anyone would think people CARE
> what he sees.
>  
> > Listen closely: I won't ever read one of your posts. Not to
> > save your life.
> 
> Only cos you're a brain dead moron with delusions of grandeur.
>  
> > I say what I want and I do what I want, and don't read the posts
> > of snivelling little cowards that hide behind multiple aliases
> > and such.
> 

My intent is to seek out snailmail addresses and them (or one) cause a lot of problems in other groups. Nothing from a Databasix address will be out. 

> thank you cartman. 
> 
> > There's nothing you can do about it.
> 
> We don't care... you're just too funny to killfile though.
>  

After I am bad tempered. I don't want to download JBN but cannot find a website where i can get a feel for the taking of innocent lives. Those are the VICTIM Moore and see how many THOUSANDS were on it who wanted to stop being forged by the enemy out to crush them, not concerned with giving them a fair price they can do is whine. 

> > I don't care what you post. 
> 
> You care enough to write long rambling diatribes about how much you don't
> care.
>  
> > That should be really obvious.
> 
> You seem to be exhibiting conflicting emotions, you don't care what anyone
> thinks but you'll be DAMNED if you're not going t rub our noses in the fact
> you don't care.... A little bit of perspective might help...
> 
> NO ONE DOES CARE WHAT YOU POST. 
> Other than for the amusement value.
> 
> > Want to do real about me? You have an invitation to visit me,
> > anytime. Contact info on website.

I tried various remailer services, but they were always unavailable. Timing out. 

> 
> And he'll lecture you on how he could kill you in 400 different ways with

29 interview with Finmeccanica Magazine. Pisanu has formed the Strategic Anti-terrorism Analysis Committee, which aims to examine and take action against all terror threats. Due to new measures, more than 25 Islamic extremists were arrested on Italian soil in 2005, according to the law has emerged. 

> his little finger....
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