hi!

i downloaded the latest(?) dsl_n and burned a cd. it worked fine on my 
laptop
except it didn't find my wlan: 2200BG.
(is it possible to add support for this wlan later???)

well, i was actually interested in putting dsl_n on an USB-stick and so i 
did.
the installation seemed to go well but then, trying to boot... it wouldn't 
boot... :-(

i know this stick can boot, as i have tried to boot win-98 from it.

is there anything i missed? the dsl_n system seems to be there ok but no 
joy.

cheers,
christine

christine wrote:
> hi!
>
> i downloaded the latest(?) dsl_n and burned a cd. it worked fine on my
> laptop
> except it didn't find my wlan: 2200BG.
> (is it possible to add support for this wlan later???)

Yes, but you need to use 2.6 kernels.

>
> well, i was actually interested in putting dsl_n on an USB-stick and so i
> did.
> the installation seemed to go well but then, trying to boot... it wouldn't
> boot... :-(

You have to program it with the correct USB hub/host modules.

>
> i know this stick can boot, as i have tried to boot win-98 from it.
>
> is there anything i missed?

Yes, the correct drivers.

>the dsl_n system seems to be there ok but no
> joy.
> 
> cheers,
> christine

"linnix"
> christine wrote:
>> i downloaded the latest(?) dsl_n and burned a cd. it worked fine on my
>> laptop
>> except it didn't find my wlan: 2200BG.
>> (is it possible to add support for this wlan later???)
>
> Yes, but you need to use 2.6 kernels.
>
>>
>> well, i was actually interested in putting dsl_n on an USB-stick and so i
>> did.
>> the installation seemed to go well but then, trying to boot... it 
>> wouldn't
>> boot... :-(
>
> You have to program it with the correct USB hub/host modules.
>
>>
>> i know this stick can boot, as i have tried to boot win-98 from it.
>>
>> is there anything i missed?
>
> Yes, the correct drivers.
>

hi!

many thanks for the reply!
as i don't know so much about these technical matters, i thought
dsl_n would do everything needed for the installation to the USB-stick

i installed the dsl_n to my USB-stick from my laptop running dsl_n and there
is an  "install the dsl_n to an USB-stick" program :-)

oh, well, need to invetigate this a little bit more. maybe some other distro 
has
made this better than dsl_n ?

cheers,
christine

"no, i won't give up!"

On Tue, 16 May 2006 13:15:12 -0700, linnix wrote:

> christine wrote:
>> hi!
>>
>> i downloaded the latest(?) dsl_n and burned a cd. it worked fine on my
>> laptop
>> except it didn't find my wlan: 2200BG.
>> (is it possible to add support for this wlan later???)
> 
> Yes, but you need to use 2.6 kernels.

....and DSL is heavily dependent on 2.4 kernels.

If you want a similarly small distro, take a look at Puppy Linux
(www.puppyos.com) and try one of the alpha releases of version 2, which
uses the latest 2.6 kernels, and has the centrino drivers included.

-- 
mark south; echo znexfbhgu2000@lnubb.pb.hx|tr a-z n-za-m
"I can trace my ancestry back to a protoplasmal primordial atomic 
globule. Consequently, my family pride is something inconceivable."
-- Gilbert & Sullivan, The Mikado

"Mark South"
> On Tue, 16 May 2006 13:15:12 -0700, linnix wrote:
>>> i downloaded the latest(?) dsl_n and burned a cd. it worked fine on my
>>> laptop
>>> except it didn't find my wlan: 2200BG.
>>> (is it possible to add support for this wlan later???)
>>
>> Yes, but you need to use 2.6 kernels.
>
> ...and DSL is heavily dependent on 2.4 kernels.
>
> If you want a similarly small distro, take a look at Puppy Linux
> (www.puppyos.com) and try one of the alpha releases of version 2, which
> uses the latest 2.6 kernels, and has the centrino drivers included.
>
> -- 
> mark south; echo znexfbhgu2000@lnubb.pb.hx|tr a-z n-za-m

hi!

thanks for the advice.

i downloaded and burned a cd with puppy and it worked fine except (of 
course)
wlan (2200BG) and unfortunately it didn't find my laptops mouse-pad :-(
it did found an external usb-mouse (of course?)

all bigger distros as kanotix, knoppix and suse10 which i have tried has 
always found all my hardware in this laptop (acer travelmate 8006LMi)

this puppy version is based on v. 2.4 :-(

it's really VERY fast and has a lot of nice programs.
one thing is for sure: i won't use the mail/newsreader ! that's the worst i 
ever seen in any os and/or computer...

i had to look for the ethernet driver from a (huge) list, it wouldn't find 
it by itself. even
if it told me what hardware i have!

the wlan-thing is annoying...is it so, that the intel pro wireless 2200BG 
driver is built in in a newer kernel (2.6...) and it cannot be put  in in a 
older???

now for the newsreader...i'd  love to use the same as in kde, but can it be 
fit in into puppy?
how universally interchangeable are linux programs for different kernels? 
this puppy has a 2.4.29 something...

puppy is the way to go IF some minor additions and changes can be made.
(wireless and news/mail reader !)

it easily installed on my USB-stick and boots very fast from it. nice!

cheers,
christine

On Wed, 17 May 2006 22:29:56 +0300, christine wrote:

> "Mark South"
>> On Tue, 16 May 2006 13:15:12 -0700, linnix wrote:
>>>> i downloaded the latest(?) dsl_n and burned a cd. it worked fine on my
>>>> laptop
>>>> except it didn't find my wlan: 2200BG.
>>>> (is it possible to add support for this wlan later???)
>>>
>>> Yes, but you need to use 2.6 kernels.
>>
>> ...and DSL is heavily dependent on 2.4 kernels.
>>
>> If you want a similarly small distro, take a look at Puppy Linux
>> (www.puppyos.com) and try one of the alpha releases of version 2, which
>> uses the latest 2.6 kernels, and has the centrino drivers included.
>
> thanks for the advice.

Pleased that it helped :-)
 
> i downloaded and burned a cd with puppy and it worked fine except (of 
> course)
> wlan (2200BG) and unfortunately it didn't find my laptops mouse-pad :-(
> it did found an external usb-mouse (of course?)

Please post about the mousepad on the Puppy forum in the hardware section,
so someone can get it working. 

> all bigger distros as kanotix, knoppix and suse10 which i have tried has
> always found all my hardware in this laptop (acer travelmate 8006LMi)

It's hard to beat the germanic thoroughness of the hardware detection in
Knoppix and its derivatives :-) 

> this puppy version is based on v. 2.4 :-(
> 
> it's really VERY fast and has a lot of nice programs. one thing is for
> sure: i won't use the mail/newsreader ! that's the worst i ever seen in
> any os and/or computer...

Sylpheed?  Some love it, some hate it.  I just use webmail.

> i had to look for the ethernet driver from a (huge) list, it wouldn't find 
> it by itself. even if it told me what hardware i have!

Are you sure that it hadn't loaded the driver, but not yet activated the
card?  That's its normal (quirky) behaviour.  It's only the first boot you
have to do it.

> the wlan-thing is annoying...is it so, that the intel pro wireless 2200BG 
> driver is built in in a newer kernel (2.6...) and it cannot be put  in in a 
> older???

It's my understanding that the constraint is  because Intel has not
provided a 2.4 driver.

The Puppy 2 alphas are pretty stable, try the latest one and see if the
wireless works.  I don't have a centrino to test for you :-(

> now for the newsreader...i'd  love to use the same as in kde, but can it be 
> fit in into puppy?

If you have the disk space.  Remastering the CD is as easy as falling off
a log, too.

> how universally interchangeable are linux programs for different kernels? 
> this puppy has a 2.4.29 something...

Most user apps don't care TOO much about kernel version, more about
libraries.
 
> puppy is the way to go IF some minor additions and changes can be made.
> (wireless and news/mail reader !)

Did you try ndiswrapper in Puppy for the wireless?  There's a wizard in
the setup menu.
 
> it easily installed on my USB-stick and boots very fast from it. nice!

Glad you had fun with Puppy.  The forums are chock full of assistance and
generally quite active if you want detailed help.

There is a package manager in Puppy, look for "package manager" and
"dotpup" in the menus.  You can install anything with a couple of clicks
if there is a package.  I've seen someone request an obscure package on
the forum and then seen someone else come back within a couple hours
saying that they had uploaded the new-built package to the server.

Cheers,
Mark
-- 
mark south; echo znexfbhgu2000@lnubb.pb.hx|tr a-z n-za-m
"I can trace my ancestry back to a protoplasmal primordial atomic 
globule. Consequently, my family pride is something inconceivable."
-- Gilbert & Sullivan, The Mikado

"Mark South"
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 22:29:56 +0300, christine wrote:
>>>>> i downloaded the latest(?) dsl_n and burned a cd. it worked fine on my
>>>>> laptop
>>>>> except it didn't find my wlan: 2200BG.
>>>>> (is it possible to add support for this wlan later???)
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but you need to use 2.6 kernels.
>>>
>>> ...and DSL is heavily dependent on 2.4 kernels.
>>>
>>> If you want a similarly small distro, take a look at Puppy Linux
>>> (www.puppyos.com) and try one of the alpha releases of version 2, which
>>> uses the latest 2.6 kernels, and has the centrino drivers included.
>>
>> thanks for the advice.
>
> Pleased that it helped :-)
>
>> i downloaded and burned a cd with puppy and it worked fine except (of
>> course)
>> wlan (2200BG) and unfortunately it didn't find my laptops mouse-pad :-(
>> it did found an external usb-mouse (of course?)
>
> Please post about the mousepad on the Puppy forum in the hardware section,
> so someone can get it working.
>
>> all bigger distros as kanotix, knoppix and suse10 which i have tried has
>> always found all my hardware in this laptop (acer travelmate 8006LMi)
>
> It's hard to beat the germanic thoroughness of the hardware detection in
> Knoppix and its derivatives :-)
>
>> this puppy version is based on v. 2.4 :-(
>>
>> it's really VERY fast and has a lot of nice programs. one thing is for
>> sure: i won't use the mail/newsreader ! that's the worst i ever seen in
>> any os and/or computer...
>
> Sylpheed?  Some love it, some hate it.  I just use webmail.
>
>> i had to look for the ethernet driver from a (huge) list, it wouldn't 
>> find
>> it by itself. even if it told me what hardware i have!
>
> Are you sure that it hadn't loaded the driver, but not yet activated the
> card?  That's its normal (quirky) behaviour.  It's only the first boot you
> have to do it.
>
>> the wlan-thing is annoying...is it so, that the intel pro wireless 2200BG
>> driver is built in in a newer kernel (2.6...) and it cannot be put  in in 
>> a
>> older???
>
> It's my understanding that the constraint is  because Intel has not
> provided a 2.4 driver.
>
> The Puppy 2 alphas are pretty stable, try the latest one and see if the
> wireless works.  I don't have a centrino to test for you :-(
>
>> now for the newsreader...i'd  love to use the same as in kde, but can it 
>> be
>> fit in into puppy?
>
> If you have the disk space.  Remastering the CD is as easy as falling off
> a log, too.
>
>> how universally interchangeable are linux programs for different kernels?
>> this puppy has a 2.4.29 something...
>
> Most user apps don't care TOO much about kernel version, more about
> libraries.
>
>> puppy is the way to go IF some minor additions and changes can be made.
>> (wireless and news/mail reader !)
>
> Did you try ndiswrapper in Puppy for the wireless?  There's a wizard in
> the setup menu.
>
>> it easily installed on my USB-stick and boots very fast from it. nice!
>
> Glad you had fun with Puppy.  The forums are chock full of assistance and
> generally quite active if you want detailed help.
>
> There is a package manager in Puppy, look for "package manager" and
> "dotpup" in the menus.  You can install anything with a couple of clicks
> if there is a package.  I've seen someone request an obscure package on
> the forum and then seen someone else come back within a couple hours
> saying that they had uploaded the new-built package to the server.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark

hi!

many thanks again for the reply and advices!
yes, i'll experiment with the puppy (and maybe with other distros too)
and learn maybe how to make my own small distro tuned for my own
needs :-)

what i'd like to start with is the latest kernel...

my need for applications is not very exceptional:

something to write with
excel type program
picture handling
netbrowser
mail/news

just normal things

now i need to search for a nice newsreader, so i don't have to write this
in windows... :-(

cheers,
christine