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Hello,

I have a 30Go IDE drive (Slave on first IDE controller).
There are 7 partitions on that disk.

After having removed a logical partion using fdisk (Mandrake 9.0) I know
that there is some unused space into the extended partition.

fdisk agrees with me but "Disk Administrator" (NT4.0 SP6a) don't
In fact "Disk Administrator" desn't see this unused space.

Is it a known behaviour?

Is my partition table corrupted or does "Disk Administrator" need to be
"resynchronized".

Any idea?


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Reply riri (2) 7/23/2003 3:54:01 PM

Vincent <riri@fifi.loulou> wrote:

> After having removed a logical partion using fdisk (Mandrake 9.0) I know
> that there is some unused space into the extended partition.

> fdisk agrees with me but "Disk Administrator" (NT4.0 SP6a) don't
> In fact "Disk Administrator" desn't see this unused space.

> Is it a known behaviour?

Wouldn't suggest using fdisk, try cfdisk or sfdisk and see what you have.
Never heard about "Disk Administrator".

-- 
Michael Heiming

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inconvenience, but I get tons of SPAM
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Reply USENET22 (5462) 7/23/2003 4:56:45 PM


> After having removed a logical partion using fdisk (Mandrake 9.0) I know
> that there is some unused space into the extended partition.
> fdisk agrees with me but "Disk Administrator" (NT4.0 SP6a) don't
> In fact "Disk Administrator" desn't see this unused space.

NT4.0?

> Is it a known behaviour?

This is obvoiusly a windows question.
Don't ask this in a linux NG and expect to get an answer.

Eric
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Reply scare.crow (147) 7/24/2003 6:52:28 AM

In article <3f1ea099$0$5861$626a54ce@news.free.fr>, Vincent wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a 30Go IDE drive (Slave on first IDE controller).
> There are 7 partitions on that disk.
> 
> After having removed a logical partion using fdisk (Mandrake 9.0) I know
> that there is some unused space into the extended partition.
> 
> fdisk agrees with me but "Disk Administrator" (NT4.0 SP6a) don't
> In fact "Disk Administrator" desn't see this unused space.
> 
> Is it a known behaviour?
> 
> Is my partition table corrupted or does "Disk Administrator" need to be
> "resynchronized".
> 
> Any idea?

Can't say about "Disk Administrator" or NT 4.0, but in general MS tools do 
not recognize "foreign" partitioning.  Partition Magic can.

-- 
Dave Brown  Austin, TX
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Reply dhbrown (306) 7/24/2003 8:51:48 PM

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:51:48 +0000, Dave Brown wrote:

> In article <3f1ea099$0$5861$626a54ce@news.free.fr>, Vincent wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have a 30Go IDE drive (Slave on first IDE controller).
>> There are 7 partitions on that disk.
>> 
>> After having removed a logical partion using fdisk (Mandrake 9.0) I know
>> that there is some unused space into the extended partition.
>> 
>> fdisk agrees with me but "Disk Administrator" (NT4.0 SP6a) don't
>> In fact "Disk Administrator" desn't see this unused space.
>> 
>> Is it a known behaviour?
>> 
>> Is my partition table corrupted or does "Disk Administrator" need to be
>> "resynchronized".
>> 
>> Any idea?
> 
> Can't say about "Disk Administrator" or NT 4.0, but in general MS tools do 
> not recognize "foreign" partitioning.  Partition Magic can.


If partition table is not in disk order, linux fdisk will warn you about
it. Why? Its because programs like Partition Magic magically hang when
presented with partition tables that have entries in an order different
from what's in the partition table.

Windows NT 4.0's DA might have such a limitation, since Partition Magic
from that era would freeze with odd partition layouts. Check with a nt
group.


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Reply joseph1 (75) 7/25/2003 6:27:32 AM

In message <pan.2003.07.25.06.27.29.192482@nntp.will.suffice>, joseph 
philip <joseph@nntp.will.suffice> writes
>> In article <3f1ea099$0$5861$626a54ce@news.free.fr>, Vincent wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have a 30Go IDE drive (Slave on first IDE controller).
>>> There are 7 partitions on that disk.
>>>
>>> After having removed a logical partion using fdisk (Mandrake 9.0) I know
>>> that there is some unused space into the extended partition.
>>>
>>> fdisk agrees with me but "Disk Administrator" (NT4.0 SP6a) don't
>>> In fact "Disk Administrator" desn't see this unused space.
>>>
>>> Is it a known behaviour?
>>>
>>> Is my partition table corrupted or does "Disk Administrator" need to be
>>> "resynchronized".
>>>
>>> Any idea?
>>
>
>If partition table is not in disk order, linux fdisk will warn you about
>it. Why? Its because programs like Partition Magic magically hang when
>presented with partition tables that have entries in an order different
>from what's in the partition table.
>
>Windows NT 4.0's DA might have such a limitation, since Partition Magic
>from that era would freeze with odd partition layouts. Check with a nt
>group.
>
No, whatever the issue is, it's not that. I had a drive in that 
condition for a couple of years. DA had no problem with it.
-- 
Joe
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Reply joe324 (164) 7/25/2003 6:10:38 PM

"John Winters" <john@linuxemporium.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bfmdu8$6da$1@duplo.office.linuxemporium.co.uk...
....
> Show us the output of:
>
>     fdisk -l /dev/hdb
....


OK, thanks.

The output of fdisk-l /dev/hdb is :

Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3739 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot Start  End   Blocks  Id System
/dev/hdb1          1  262  2104483+ e1 DOS access
/dev/hdb2        263  524  2104515   7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdb3        525  786  2104515  83 Linux
/dev/hdb4        787 3739 23719972+  5 Extended
/dev/hdb5       1310 1832  4200966   7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdb6       1833 2355  4200966   7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdb7       2356 3048  5566491   7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdb8       3049 3739  5550426   7 HPFS/NTFS

You can see that there is some free space from cylinder 787 to 1309.
In fact I have deleted a partition in order to split it.

But if I create a new partition into this free space, this partition is not
visible from WinNT.

I notice a strange behaviour.
Winthin Windows "/dev/hdb5" is mapped on "K:" drive. "Disk Administrator"
tells that drive is 8MB. In fact it is 4MB. It looks like if it has merged
/dev/hdb5 with the free space before hdb5.

When looking, with the "File browser", to "K:" "properties" it says
something like :
- 4GB drive.
- used 4GB. (which is true as the drive is almost full) The circle is fully
blue.
- free 4GB. (which is very strange).

Any idea?

Regards thanks.

Vincent


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Reply nobody1283 (6) 7/28/2003 8:03:07 AM

In message <bg2kuu$d51$1@s1.read.news.oleane.net>, Vincent 
<nobody@nowhere.there> writes
>"John Winters" <john@linuxemporium.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:bfmdu8$6da$1@duplo.office.linuxemporium.co.uk...
>...
>> Show us the output of:
>>
>>     fdisk -l /dev/hdb
>...
>
>
>OK, thanks.
>
>The output of fdisk-l /dev/hdb is :
>
>Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3739 cylinders
>Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
<etc.)

I've lost the earlier posts. Have you got at least SP4 on NT4.0? The 
ATAPI drivers before this freaked out when a partition (including 
extended) of more than 8GB existed. I'd forgotten the experience, but I 
once had a hard time getting NT4.0 onto a 20GB drive.
-- 
Joe
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Reply joe324 (164) 7/28/2003 6:20:57 PM

Hi Joe,

"Joe" <joe@jretrading.com> wrote in message
news:tGnaY5AJmWJ$Ewo5@jretrading.com...
>
> I've lost the earlier posts. Have you got at least SP4 on NT4.0? The

Yes, I have SP6a.

> ATAPI drivers before this freaked out when a partition (including
> extended) of more than 8GB existed. I'd forgotten the experience, but I
> once had a hard time getting NT4.0 onto a 20GB drive.
> --
> Joe

Thanks

Vincent


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Reply nobody1283 (6) 7/29/2003 7:26:51 AM

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