Fedora Core 1 questions... - comp.os.linux.misc

I just installed Fedora Core 1 on my system last night. My system is a dual-boot computer, running Windows XP on one harddirve, and Fedora Core 1 on the other. However, when I tried inserting a floppy formatted in Windows XP, Fedora balked and failed to recognize the disk drive (3.5", 1.44 MB). The disk contains a few misc. .tar.gz programs that extract and run under Linux. I tried formatting a floppy disk in the common Linux format, and it took several minutes to format the disk (low-level format). This appeared to work, although I have yet to move any test files on it to verify if it worked. Also, I am a relative newbie to Linux, and want to be able to download Linux freeware/shareware utilities on my Windowx XP system, which can then be transferred to my other harddrive containing Fedora Core 1. However, "df" and "du" only provide information on the hard drive and type of file formats used on each drive. Do I need to download NTFS-capable kernel updates? Fedora Core doesn't seem to recognize the disks I insert into my floppy drive, and I want to be able to read Windows XP-formatted floppy diskettes under Linux. Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. Sincerely, Paul Panks dunric@yahoo.com Phoenix, AZ -- panks@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

On Sun, 09 May 2004 04:02:29 +0000, Paul Allen Panks wrote: > I just installed Fedora Core 1 on my system last night. My system is a > dual-boot computer, running Windows XP on one harddirve, and Fedora Core 1 > on the other. > > However, when I tried inserting a floppy formatted in Windows XP, Fedora > balked and failed to recognize the disk drive (3.5", 1.44 MB). The disk > contains a few misc. .tar.gz programs that extract and run under Linux. > You do know that you have to mount the floppy in linux, right? At a prompt (i.e. in a terminal window) mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy Alternatively, right click on the desktop -> disks -> floppy. A floppy icon will appear on the desktop. Use the floppy, then when you're done umount /mnt/floppy or, right-click on the floppy icon -> eject. > I tried formatting a floppy disk in the common Linux format, and it took > several minutes to format the disk (low-level format). This appeared to > work, although I have yet to move any test files on it to verify if it > worked. > > Also, I am a relative newbie to Linux, and want to be able to download > Linux freeware/shareware utilities on my Windowx XP system, which can then > be transferred to my other harddrive containing Fedora Core 1. However, > "df" and "du" only provide information on the hard drive and type of file > formats used on each drive. > > Do I need to download NTFS-capable kernel updates? Fedora Core doesn't > seem to recognize the disks I insert into my floppy drive, and I want to > be able to read Windows XP-formatted floppy diskettes under Linux. > > Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. By default the fedora kernel does not have ntfs support compiled in (but the ntfs support is in the kernel code already). So you, if you insist, you must get the kernel sources, and recompile with ntfs read support. A different way is simply to have a fat partition, which will be seen by both systems. In about 1 week Fedora 2 will be out, and it comes with the 2.6 kernel, which have read/write ntfs support, although I'm not sure if it's enabled by default.

In article <pan.2004.05.09.04.45.39.752500@nowhere.org>, Amadeus wrote: > On Sun, 09 May 2004 04:02:29 +0000, Paul Allen Panks wrote: <snip> >> Do I need to download NTFS-capable kernel updates? Fedora Core doesn't >> seem to recognize the disks I insert into my floppy drive, and I want to >> be able to read Windows XP-formatted floppy diskettes under Linux. >> >> Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. > > By default the fedora kernel does not have ntfs support compiled in > (but the ntfs support is in the kernel code already). So you, if > you insist, you must get the kernel sources, and recompile with > ntfs read support. Or download and install the right RPM for your specific kernel version (accessible through uname -r) from http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/

Amadeus wrote: > You do know that you have to mount the floppy in linux, right? Or more simply, use mtools - mdir, mcopy, etc. For more info, say "info mtools". -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

On Sun, 09 May 2004 06:40:51 +0000, Paul Allen Panks wrote: > I believe my kernal version is 2.4.22 Find out, from the console or xterm session type; uname -r It's might be a good idea to download the pdf versions of the Red Hat Linux 9 manuals, most (95%+) of the information applies; http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/ -- "In short, without this exclusive franchise, called the Windows API, we would have been dead a long time ago." M$ Senior VP Bob Muglia '96

On 2004-05-09, Amadeus <nobody@nowhere.org> wrote: > On Sun, 09 May 2004 04:02:29 +0000, Paul Allen Panks wrote: > >> I just installed Fedora Core 1 on my system last night. My system is a >> dual-boot computer, running Windows XP on one harddirve, and Fedora Core 1 >> on the other. >> >> However, when I tried inserting a floppy formatted in Windows XP, Fedora >> balked and failed to recognize the disk drive (3.5", 1.44 MB). The disk >> contains a few misc. .tar.gz programs that extract and run under Linux. >> > > You do know that you have to mount the floppy in linux, right? > > At a prompt (i.e. in a terminal window) > > mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy > > Alternatively, right click on the desktop -> disks -> floppy. > A floppy icon will appear on the desktop. Use the floppy, then > when you're done > > umount /mnt/floppy > > or, right-click on the floppy icon -> eject. Or use the mtools; eg "mdir a:" "mcopy a:whatever.gz ." etc. >> I tried formatting a floppy disk in the common Linux format, and it took >> several minutes to format the disk (low-level format). This appeared to >> work, although I have yet to move any test files on it to verify if it >> worked. "mformat a:" will format a floppy for you. >> Also, I am a relative newbie to Linux, and want to be able to download >> Linux freeware/shareware utilities on my Windowx XP system, which can then >> be transferred to my other harddrive containing Fedora Core 1. However, >> "df" and "du" only provide information on the hard drive and type of file >> formats used on each drive. Are you talking about individual files or the filesystem? The "file" command can tell you about individual files: [john@starfleet john]$ file unzip.exe unzip.exe: MS-DOS executable (EXE), PKLITE compressed [john@starfleet john]$ file training.doc training.doc: Microsoft Office Document For filesystems, you can just run "mount" without any arguments to see the mounted filesystem types: [john@starfleet john]$ mount /dev/hdb5 on / type ext3 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) /dev/hda5 on /usr/local type ext3 (rw,data=ordered) /dev/hdb6 on /opt type ext3 (rw,data=ordered) /dev/hdb8 on /tmp type ext3 (rw,data=writeback) /dev/hdb10 on /var type ext3 (rw,data=ordered) /dev/md0 on /space type xfs (rw) amayatra:/home on /home type nfs (rw,addr=192.168.0.10) amayatra:/raid0 on /mnt/amayatra/raid0 type nfs (rw,addr=192.168.0.10) /proc/bus/usb on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) For unmounted dfilesystems, use "fdisk -l /dev/whatever": Disk /dev/hdb: 20.4 GB, 20416757760 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2482 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 2 2482 19928632+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hdb5 2 511 4096543+ 83 Linux /dev/hdb6 512 1021 4096543+ 83 Linux /dev/hdb7 1022 1531 4096543+ 83 Linux /dev/hdb8 1532 1786 2048256 83 Linux /dev/hdb9 1787 2041 2048256 83 Linux /dev/hdb10 2042 2482 3542301 83 Linux >> Do I need to download NTFS-capable kernel updates? Fedora only supports NTFS as read-only, but you can build read/write NTFS kernel modules you can use instead. Check The Linux-NTFS project (http://linux-ntfs.sf.net/) for the software. >> Fedora Core doesn't seem to recognize the disks I insert into my >> floppy drive, and I want to be able to read Windows XP-formatted >> floppy diskettes under Linux. XP uses FAT on floppies, and should be supported by your linux system. Try the mtools (above) as the easiest method. -- -John (john@os2.dhs.org)